Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 24
Jan. 18th, 2022 12:48 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.
Are we getting settled yet?
Date: 2022-01-18 06:20 pm (UTC)It appears to have quite a few differences to the original. Might just be possible the entwined Sars CoV-2 virus/covid vixenation story isn't quite done yet and another twist may happen. I say this in light of Radagast's post on the 9th: https://www.rintrah.nl/omicron-the-vaccine-induced-self-inflicted-wound/
and IM Doc's thoughts in the Naked Capitalism thread on the 14th: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/01/links-1-14-2022.html
'The 1890s pandemic, more and more are thinking it was indeed coronavirus OC 43, was much different and so far is mirroring our current situation. Depending on where you were in the world, there were 7 to 12 huge waves. There was no clean stair stepping down in badness, each wave had its own characteristics, and some waves were nothingburgers, some were Godzilla...
As I have repeatedly said, collective humanity and our collective immune system is going to have a hot war with this virus until the hostilities are over... It remains to be seen how the introduction of vaccines will play out in this war. We have never attempted this in humans before. In every animal coronavirus pandemic where vaccines were attempted, it has ended in tears.'
This is, of course, taken on board together with an awareness of JMG's original hypothesis way back when too: https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140421.html
However, it is also possible that we are seeing the final settle down to a seasonal, endemic virus and the human race got 'lucky' - just as the serious clash between the vixens and the ever evolving virus happened, Sars-CoV-2 became quite a lot less dangerous - quoting part of a comment on the Market-Ticker I saw on Monday:
"Without Omicron, all the people that are getting sick now (and we suspected they might as protection wore off) would be getting SICK.
But now they are getting sick enough to be hurting by this cold, but not so sick that they still believe the "I would be much worse without the jabs". They don't seem to recognize that the purebloods aren't really getting it at all (or have at worst the same symptoms).
It seems to be a perfect bug to reinforce the "It could have been worse" trope ..."
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244845&page=10
Welcome anyone's thoughts on this.
Re: Are we getting settled yet?
Date: 2022-01-18 07:22 pm (UTC)Those are not the facts on the ground that I am seeing. Someone I work with just lost a vaccinated/probably boosted parent this week to "complications with COVID." And that same co-worker, who is vaccinated/probably boosted, also has COVID right now.
But vaccinated people dying does not seem to be making a dent in the mantra. They are holding onto their faith in the vaccines no matter what.
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:25 pm (UTC)In collapse-of-a-different-kind news, anyone else on the East Coast seeing massive grocery store shortages? My family in the Midwest are not, but here a number of milk brands are missing, no chicken thighs, no lemons, no lettuce, eggs are running low, etc. (Thankfully I'm all stocked up with my pantry and chest freezer and have non-grocery store sources for some eggs and produce.)
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:25 pm (UTC)https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/nothing-is-over-until-wall-street
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:34 pm (UTC)https://consentfactory.org/2022/01/18/the-last-days-of-the-covidian-cult/
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:37 pm (UTC)"Totally fine and unharmed, but I was just eating in sf restaurant and someone walked in said “I hate techies” (I think bc I had AirPod Max around my neck) and sort of tried to attack me, someone held him back, he said “I’m not nervous for what’s about to happen” I darted out"
https://twitter.com/nickcammarata/status/1483322576868835330
Three takeaways from this:
1 California is not a good place to be right now.
2 This could be an indicator of a coming backlash against "techies". As I've been (neutrally) called a "techie" simply because I use a laptop, those who habitually do computer work in cafes and suchlike might want to be more discrete from now on.
3 The insane medical experiments and attempted digitization of the economy that have come out of COVID are not likely to make the situation for "techies" any better in the years to come...
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Date: 2022-01-18 07:40 pm (UTC)https://neveryetmelted.com/2022/01/16/a-silicon-valley-insiders-twitter-thread/
And I'd add, if you haven't gotten out by now, it's probably too late, for various reasons.
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:43 pm (UTC)The reason given was that he 'might inflame anti-vex sentiment!
In other words, it was openly admitted that he was a threat to thought, that he might introduce ideas into the public. To me this is a huge shift and a transparent failure of the vex narrative as it directly points to thoughts and ideas as the threat instead of the 'germ'.
Hopefully, Australians will note this shift from 'be afraid of this deadly germ, take this drug to return to normal life' to 'be afraid of this thought we don't want you to think, don't think it and return to normal life'. A very different thing to enforce and a shift in the hypnosis focal point. This might lead to a breaking of the mass formation spell. And it was done by the hypnotizers in a state of panic, no less.
What are the commentariats thoughts on this?
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:44 pm (UTC)https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/living-for-the-moment-study-points-to-cognitive-differences-in-people-who-are-vaccine-hesitant/ar-AASTD1R?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAggNb9437045
Let me guess - they had economists do the study? How else could you get the conclusion backwards?
It is just as you have been saying all along, John: they have lost touch with reality, and are now substituting their favorite fantasy for the facts.
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Date: 2022-01-18 07:45 pm (UTC)Fox mandate law proposal
Date: 2022-01-18 06:46 pm (UTC)I seem to be strapped for time atm and do not have the time to spare to look into the legal field myself. So I would throw it out there.
Does any one of the german speaking members here know what is the prognosis for the proposed austrian fox mandate law.
I heard it is going into parlament, but I do not know what the chances of it passing are, or if it is constitutional or even practical.
Any one in the know?
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Date: 2022-01-18 07:51 pm (UTC)I browsed a couple of Austrian newspapers but didn't find any information. Judging from this article:
https://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/chronik/oesterreich/2134554-Polizeikontrollen-bei-Gartenparty-zulaessig.html
the current is still flowing in the direction of less freedom for citizens and fewer curbs on state power. But another newspaper reported a "study" finding that unvaccinated pregnant women are more likely to miscarry, so it is quite possible the news streams available to me are nothing but pro-narrative propaganda. I hope someone more knowledgeable than I will be able to give you a useful answer.
I am responding mainly because I saw your note in the MM post indicating you are under a lot of pressure and having a difficult time at present. I salute you for your integrity: please accept my best wishes for your health and prosperity. May you find your way safely through the shadows.
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Date: 2022-01-18 06:48 pm (UTC)Kacem's letter is in French, but I guess Google translate will give the gist. The titel of his open letter is: "We are witnessing the first mondial civil war, an unconventional genocide"
https://eveilinfo.org/2021/11/17/lettre-ouverte-de-mehdi-belhaj-kacem-nous-vivons-la-premiere-guerre-civile-mondiale-un-genocide-non-conventionnel/
Dutch translation is here https://www.wereldbrand.nl/2022/01/10/wij-leven-in-de-tijd-van-de-eerste-mondiale-burgeroorlog
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Date: 2022-01-18 07:03 pm (UTC)Wow, we are at week 24. The photo of the hiker in the graveyard.... hmmm....
It seems to me that things with "the narrative" are about to get ferociously choppy-- strong pressures in various different directions and in different places.
I cannot thank you enough for providing this civilized oasis for, as you say, "people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death."
I am hanging in there-- I have not complied and I will not comply-- but in my circumstances, where I'm living at the moment, it has been rough. This forum has helped me more than I can say. No doubt many, many others in many other parts of the world, and in their various circumstances, will say the same.
So, dear JMG, thank you for hosting and moderating this week, and for all the weeks. And a big thank you to your wife also because she surely has missed some time with you over this.
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Date: 2022-01-18 07:38 pm (UTC)Weird.
My county is a red county. I go to a few blue counties which are more densely populated and check their death rates. They show half or quarter of the deaths this year compared to last year this time.
Weird again.
Why are people in red counties more likely to die from covid right now? Or is it the case that coroners in blue counties don't list covid as the primary cause while those in red counties are listing covid more frequently?
I smell politics afoot.
Re: Red vs. Blue
Date: 2022-01-19 01:48 am (UTC)Now, before y'all lynch me. One would expect these sort of binaries would not make it into our fine fellowship's chats.
In the Faust stories, Mephistopheles does not fail to deliver the promised goods, does he? But the not-so-good doctor fails to realize that the price shall not be dodged, and that it shall be extremely expensive. I'd recommend to check excess mortality rates, if you have access to them.
Also, contrary to the hyperbole prevalent here, people who received said treatment are not *falling* *like* flies*. There are a number of cases, more than what everyone has come to expect from modern medical treatment, but still a small minority. But we do not know how far into the future will the price will remain accruing interests (unlike the viral disease which, as usual, is self limiting in each host).
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From:Contrarian, as always.
Date: 2022-01-18 07:43 pm (UTC)Unlike the others I don't sense that this is coming to an end. It may be that its a consequence of living in Canada.
Quebec is talking of taxing (aka fining) the unvaxxed. Quebec had already required the booster to maintain passport privileges.
Other provinces are expressing their intentions of following suit.
There is a push to force students to wear N95's as the ineffectiveness of the other masks becomes impossible to hide. The social, educational & psychological damage ignored.
Nowhere is ending the mandates, or the equally odious compliance passports mentioned. Eugenics (experts with the authority to dictate 'medical' intervention) has been re-established. It was established with vaccine mandates the first time, as well. Ostracism is now likewise established in law in all but name. Internment camps are being built in several countries, including Canada.
No, this isn't ending. Its shifting narratives. Its unlikely that governments will be able to continue hiding the costs of the pandemic. And they have worked diligently to create an "other" to blame.
I wish I could feel more positive. I do wish everyone well.
Re: Contrarian, as always.
Date: 2022-01-19 03:11 am (UTC)But don't despair. Sometimes the darkest hour is right before the dawn.
We've been using a dam metaphor. Cracks in the narrative. Cracks in the dam. The dam may look like it's super strong and never held back so much water! And then some cracks appear, and all of a sudden the whole thing collapses at once.
That's what I'm hoping for. I'm not sure how much longer I can take this. But I know I'm not the only one wound so high and ready to snap. The whole thing is wound up pretty tight. I think it's possible it could blow up and blow over really fast. I sure hope so.
Just don't be "downstream" when the dam breaks, but it sounds like you're not.
Best Wishes. Hang in there. You are not alone.
-Slink
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Date: 2022-01-18 08:05 pm (UTC)https://www.realnotrare.com/post/miriam-thomson
Miriam Thomson
First Dose of Pfizer in 03/21
Missouri
EXCERPT:
"Q: What do you wish others knew?
"I know I’m not alone, and I have heard & read about others having neurologic problems also. I just want some help!"
Vaxx Injuries
Date: 2022-01-18 08:10 pm (UTC)John Parker
First Dose of Pfizer on 08/26/21
Second Dose of Pfizer on 09/16/21 Lot #FD8448
Orlando, Florida
https://www.realnotrare.com/post/john-parker
EXCERPT:
Q: What is your life like now, after getting the vaccine?
3 months post-vaccine, I can still tell that something is wrong with my body! My symptoms are not going away in spite of everything I am doing everything to try to recover from being injured by this vaccine. I have brain fog all of the time, I still have shingles lesions, eye trouble, my lymph glands are sore and swollen, and I have various aches and pains throughout my body. Nevertheless, I thank God for every day that I am alive. I feel fortunate that the vaccine didn’t kill me [yet] and that I can still at least function in my day-to-day life. I try to keep a positive attitude and trust God to help me get through this.
Q: Share your experience with any medical care and any diagnoses you have received:
On October 5th my doctor diagnosed me with shingles! Even though I had Epstein-Barr virus in the past, but I never had such a strange shingles rash. We discussed how the adverse effects of the vaccine had negatively affected my immune system and had led to my current symptoms. Later that day I found a doctor on Facebook who shared a post about the COVID:
Vaccine Adverse Reporting website (VAERS) https://openvaers.com/covid-data .
I was shocked to learn that thousands of other people had also gotten shingles and other health problems as a result of getting these vaccines. And thousands had even died!
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Date: 2022-01-18 08:16 pm (UTC)https://joomi.substack.com/p/i-was-deceived-about-covid-vaccine
was mentioned-- I'd like to point to it again since it strikes me as especially important and detailed. It is by Joomi Kim, a data scientist and former biologist who got double vaxxed and now, with more information, regrets it.
EXCERPT:
"In May of 2021, I took the second dose of the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine. At the time, I was led to believe that everybody knows the vaccines are safe and effective. I kept hearing that anybody who believed in science should want to get vaccinated.
"I used to be a biologist, so of course I believed in science. So I took the vaccine.
"If I had known what I know now, I would not have taken it.
"At the time, I had no idea of the level of censorship that hides Covid vaccine injuries from the public. At the time, I thought we could trust our health institutions, more or less.
"But not all vaccines are the same, and not all vaccines are equally safe. And criticizing the Covid vaccines, does not make one 'anti-vax.'
"When it comes to the Covid vaccines, there is overwhelming evidence that they lead to much higher rates of injury and death, than what our health institutions, like the CDC, acknowledge and report to the public.
"I wrote this article in order to take some of the evidence for this and compile it into one, shareable article.
>> CONTINUE READING AT https://joomi.substack.com/p/i-was-deceived-about-covid-vaccine
Post COVID? Post
Date: 2022-01-18 08:21 pm (UTC)No side effects yet, but I'm still taking my Vitamin D. Will get back to working out soon – had to stop when my throat got rough.
– Donald Hargraves
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Date: 2022-01-19 08:55 pm (UTC)Mass Formation Psychosis
Date: 2022-01-18 08:26 pm (UTC)Five Ways That People Refused to be Fooled by Lockdown Madness
BY PAUL FRIJTERS, GIGI FOSTER, MICHAEL BAKER
JANUARY 18, 2022
Something striking about the past two years is that almost everyone against lockdowns has exactly the same opinion about the madness of the masses, yet many also belong to groups that don’t have anything else much in common and may even despise each other. It’s as if different groups are observing the herd from completely different vantage points on the same field, but all see the herd make exactly the same moves. They stand relatively still in their different corners, watching while the herd does its zigzags, circles and surges, rumbling on in a lunatic stampede.
Various kinds of people stood apart from the herd at the outset, while some escaped it after it formed. Here we try to describe the main pathways to escape from the madness. We do this only partly out of intellectual curiosity: such an exercise also provides clues as to which of those still in thrall to lockdown orthodoxy might be close to liberating themselves, and what is needed to complete their unshackling.
>> CONTINUE READING: https://brownstone.org/articles/five-ways-that-people-refused-to-be-fooled-by-lockdown-madness/
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Date: 2022-01-18 10:55 pm (UTC)I've been wondering about this. The people skeptical of this whole mess are such a varied bunch.
My own circles includes a right-wing, devoutly Wiccan herbalist and gun nut (yes, really) who doesn't trust any Democrats and is skeptical of mainstream medicine; a couple of vaguely libertarian types who don't really trust any government and think that "it's all about money" (one is a heavily-armed gun aficionado, the rest are not, most are fairly wealthy); a few mainstream middle-class Republicans and Independents (but no Democrats) who went along early on but have woken up once they started going after the kids; an African-American herbalist (there's that herbalism thing again!); an African-American mother whose politics I don't know; a Jewish dancer who says she puts her faith in a higher power not the mainstream narrative; and me, a reader of some obscure Druid blog who has a degree in history and who also thinks that this is "all about the money" and that the neo-liberal left has lost its ever-loving mind and wouldn't recognize disaster capitalism at work if it locked them in their houses and strapped muzzles on their faces.
An odd collection...
Trying to figure out what the heck these people all have in common has been puzzling me for over a year.
The best I can come up with?
None of us are joiners. That's it. Even the religious ones are more of the personal-faith bent than established orthodoxy.
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Date: 2022-01-18 08:34 pm (UTC)1. The duration of the status of "recovered" has been cut from six months to three months.
2. As of today, only persons with three injections are regarded as "fully vaccinated," which means that millions of people are now back in the
uncleanunvaccinated category.Reactions in the comments sections were twofold:
The until-recently-fully-vaccinated were furious.
The unvaccinated-from-the-beginning were amused.
I admit, I laughed out loud when I read the articles. In fact, I'm still loling.
Needless to say, this will do wonders for the acceptance of general vaccination mandates in the (now very big) group of formerly vaccinated citizens. :D :D :D And I expect the numbers of evening strollers aka "enemies of the state" (I kid you not, that's what they're called by the media and the so-called Verfassungsschutz) to swell yet again.
Interesting times.
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Date: 2022-01-18 10:38 pm (UTC)https://m.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/impfpflicht-zoff-kassenaerzte-sagen-lauterbach-den-kampf-an-78868050.bildMobile.html
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Mandates Are About Political Control, Not Health
BY JENIN YOUNES JANUARY 18, 2022
https://brownstone.org/articles/mandates-are-about-political-control-not-health/
For two years, the political class’s ineptitude has been on full display. School shutdowns, business closures, and endless mask mandates have all proven relatively ineffective at stemming the spread of COVID-19 (never mind reducing hospitalizations and deaths), yet politicians continued instituting these harmful and useless measures in a desperate attempt to be perceived as doing something.
But over the past month or so, it has become inescapable that sheer incompetence and ignorance can no longer be the sole explanation for two years of bungled policies. Rather, the craven mindset of many of our leaders in both parties (albeit primarily Democrats) is manifest. They are using our bodies to score cheap political points, impervious to the injury they are inflicting upon us.
Worst of all are the vaccine mandates, which come in countless forms. Universities, including public ones, are requiring faculty, staff, and students to vaccinate against COVID-19 in order to remain employed or enrolled. Many, for example Washington and Lee University in Virginia, Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, and the CUNY and SUNY state schools in New York, are now requiring boosters.
As an attorney who has filed a number of lawsuits challenging vaccine mandates coming from both public university employers and the federal government, I am contacted every day by myriad students, faculty and employees at these universities. Many now are double-vaccinated and COVID-19 recovered. A significant portion had recent bouts with COVID-19, which is unsurprising given that Omicron swept across much of the nation in a very brief time period. Yet, for students to continue their education at the universities they may have invested significant time, emotional energy and resources into attending, they are being coerced into getting a useless medical procedure that many legitimately fear could harm them.
Consider, for instance, the data on myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) especially for men under age 30. While in a cynical attempt to push their blanket vaccine mandate agenda agencies such as the CDC and FDA have dismissed these concerns, claiming that myocarditis is extremely rare and almost always resolves quickly, cardiologist Anish Koka has explained that this is not an accurate assessment of either the risk or the severity of the condition.
Multiple independent data sets actually suggest that vaccine-induced myocarditis occurs at rates that are much higher than the CDC estimates, and may in fact be higher than the rates of COVID related complications in healthy young men. Moreover, as Koka has explained, the notion that myocarditis can be described as “minor” is absurd. Not only does one suffer chest pain and leak cardiac enzymes from damaged heart muscle, but a third of patients are found to have fibrosis and scarring in the heart that has an uncertain long-term prognosis.
Valid concerns about the health risk of repeated boosters are also arising. European Union regulators just rang an alarm bell, explaining that evidence indicates such a practice could actually deplete one’s immune system long-term, leading to all sorts of health problems, including greater susceptibility to COVID-19. In short, for many, especially young, COVID-recovered people, the risks of COVID-19 vaccination, especially a second dose or a booster, might outweigh any benefit.
Furthermore, there is no societal-wide justification for these mandates. Many epidemiologists and experts in vaccine safety believed that these particular products did not stop transmission from the start. They unquestionably do not stop transmission of new variants like Omicron. Even CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, who relentlessly pursues a blanket vaccine mandate approach, has admitted as much.
Where no coherent claim can be made that vaccination is for the “greater good,” to remove personal choice from the equation by premising employment upon taking a medically unnecessary and possibly injurious vaccine is unconscionable.
Yet, instead of revisiting their vaccine requirements, some employers are doubling down and mayors and governors are taking a page out of their books. Democratic strongholds across the country are implementing passport programs, meaning that one must show proof of vaccination in order to enter places of public accommodation, for instance restaurants, bars, movie theaters, and gyms.
Essentially, participation in public life is not possible in these blue bastions unless one gets vaccinated and is willing to show proof of it or take the legal and reputational risk of using a counterfeit vaccination card. Although New York City’s proof of vaccination requirement has been a colossal failure, other blue cities such as DC, Chicago, Boston, and Minneapolis are emulating the program. Politicians like de Blasio and Mayor Bowser of DC appear to believe that “getting people vaccinated,” the justification for these requirements, is an end in and of itself, regardless of whether it does anything to reduce COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths, not to mention improve public health overall.
Mask mandates fare no better. For two years, study after study has confirmed what could not escape the objective, casual observer: that community masking with cloth and surgical masks does nothing to slow the spread of COVID-19, despite the attempts of politicians and compromised scientists to twist results of this research to claim otherwise.
Rather than admit the obvious policy failures, those who have been insisting upon masking are making the ludicrous claim that the Omicron variant somehow circumvents these barriers while Delta and original COVID did not. And, contrary to the contentions of these “experts,” who are somehow still considered experts despite being wrong time after time, masking is harmful, especially for children.
The commonsense points many of us have been making – that children need to see facial expressions and be free to make such expressions themselves in order to develop socially, cognitively, and linguistically – are now being borne out by research. Masking is harmful to adults, too. Reading facial expressions is one way in which we connect with each other, and it is important for our psychological well-being.
While the average member of the Zoom class does not have to spend the majority of the day in a mask, most members of the working class—servers, bartenders, and uber drivers, for example—do. Masking for hours each day causes pain behind the ears and reduces oxygen intake. It is also hard to escape the dehumanization attached to servers and bartenders having their faces covered, while the patrons remain mask-free from the moment they sit down.
Yet, every time cases rise in a blue jurisdiction, one can be relatively certain that the mayor or governor will weaponize this pointless measure in order to make a show of doing something.
In 2022, mask and vaccine mandates—and many other COVID-19 mitigation measures such as arbitrary restrictions on gathering size and social distancing—have nothing to do with our well-being, and everything to do with the Mayor Bowsers of the world scoring political points, which becomes yet more obvious when these same politicians do not follow their own rules.
Mandates that serve no legitimate public health purpose and are instituted merely to punish the noncompliant should have no place in a civilized or democratic society. It is time that Americans wake up and realize that they are being used as pawns in a game of politics.
Mood change?
Date: 2022-01-18 08:46 pm (UTC)Um. A mood swing from contemplative to cold, and an image swing from wide-open, sunny mountain paths to a graveyard in autumn.
Is there anything in particular that has caused this change in your perception?
Milkyway
Re: Mood change?
Date: 2022-01-19 03:56 am (UTC)I discussed a while ago my very tentative hypothesis that demonic entities may be involved in this whole business. If you look at other historical examples where a group of people practiced malefic magic for political purposes -- I'm thinking here especially, but not only, of the rise and fall of the Third Reich -- there's a very specific dynamic. In the first two-thirds or so of the story, everything goes the way the malefic mages want -- their enemies crumple, their dreams come true, they're on top of the world. Then, very quietly, the momentum shifts and everything goes wrong, and the malefic mages go down in a maelstrom of terror, failure, and death.
I've lost the source, but one text I read years ago suggests that this is intentional on the part of the demons. They give the malefic mages what the mages ask, up to a point, so that as many people as possible fall in line, and they gently nudge the mages into more and more extreme evils. Then the momentum changes, and the malefic mages double down frantically, doing more and more evil as they circle the drain.
It feels to me as though the momentum has changed. If events follow the trajectory I've just outlined, I'd expect to see the vaccines pushed ever more frantically on children and infants, multiple boosters mandated, etc., etc., as things begin to fall apart. This would also be the point at which the death rate begins moving steadily up -- not vertically by any means, not enough to break the true believers out of their trance, but enough to tighten the screws on them and to torment everyone else with fear and grief. (Demons don't play gently with their toys.)
Of course, all this is speculative in the extreme. We'll just have to see what happens.
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Date: 2022-01-18 08:52 pm (UTC)There is the regular foxination schedule that will still be every 2-6 months.
I don't see any sign yet that the govts are willing to give up the digital IDs, so they would need to continue the charade of foxination forever.
My guess is there will be countries where people will have 10 shots this year. What do you think?
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Date: 2022-01-18 09:17 pm (UTC)Meanwhile 3 more cases of strokes, one followed by ovarian cancer, breast cancer, and undiagnosed lung infection. All in the vexed 20 to 65 age group.
Weird cognitive decline in my boosted boss lately where he has literally hallucinated a couple of times in the past few weeks, misinterpreting work in place in a dyslexic kind of way which is not like him at all.
In spite of it all SWMBO and I have become almost serene and more attentive with each other. There is also a sort of fatigue that has set in where most folks avoid the covid/vax topic altogether.
Gawain
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Date: 2022-01-18 09:18 pm (UTC)I cannot express enough gratitude for your vigillence and perseverance in this matter.
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Date: 2022-01-18 09:27 pm (UTC)Re: DC March
Date: 2022-01-18 10:12 pm (UTC)https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
They could have coordinated better. Most people won't be in DC, but encouraging these local protests in conjunction could have had a big payoff. I understand though that they probably want to get the biggest turnout in DC for optics purposes. Man I hope they succeed.
I too have been impressed with the videos coming out of Europe lately. Crowds are starting to get to a respectable size! And I'm not one for vendettas, but that video of the official getting pelted with trash, that was something ;)
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