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walking through a cemeteryThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-18 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm in the east coast of Canada, and we just had two winter storms right after another. I heard from relatives that they went to get gas for their generator, but the gas stations in the town they live in were either closed due to power outages, and an unspecified number of them had no more gas. Granted, that could be increased demand on those stations which still had power.

But then yesterday morning, I went early to my nearby gas station which had been closed over the weekend when the first storm hit, and they told me that it was good that I arrived early, because they are very low on gas. He told me that due to the mandates, or people getting covid, that there was a truck driver shortage. So he was anxiously awaiting a delivery of gas so that he could sell gas that day.

Supermarkets here are also starting to sell out of certain types of food.

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-18 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"I'm in the east coast of Canada"

Same. On the weekend, I was going to make a new recipe for supper, and my wife dutifully went out in search of the ingredients. She came back... TWO AND A HALF hours later, saying, "Check out these photos of bare shelves." I also don't know if it was the storms, or the trucker mandate, or both, or something else, but it was ominous, like something from a Soviet documentary.

-Bofur

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-18 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There's a deadline that just passed, I think on the 15th, where truck drivers entering Canuckistan have to be vaxxed and there's another Bright Idea(tm) on the 22nd where truckers entering Murica need the same.

Needless to say, a lot of truckers are saying "truck you" and walking away from their jobs.

Those truckers. Trucking up the economy.

Doesn't matter. If it isn't one thing, it'll be something else. It's collapsing. Welcome to 2022, blah blah blah.

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-18 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Rumor on 4chan has it, that it was a bad mistake for the city of Toronto to fire so many unvaccinated city workers.
They were badly needed to clear the snow after the storms.
Apparently there was quite the mess without them.

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/357003035

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-staff-fired-covid-19-1.6304988

Would you say that's true?

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-18 11:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jpc_w
Well, Toronto had "the majority" of its bus and streetcar fleet stuck in the snow, and some people had to wait 8 hours to get unstuck on the 401.

The TTC had already slashed service after the mass-firing of the unvaccinated. The City of Toronto wasn't quite so bad, as they had over 98% compliance when they fired those workers.

That said, Ontario is still in the middle of its Omicron wave.
Edited (re-reference of that article.) Date: 2022-01-18 11:39 pm (UTC)

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-19 01:28 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I highly doubt that claim. For one, many Torontonians are egomaniacs who think that they can drive anywhere anytime because they are gods who dwell at the Centre of the UniverseTM. And so, they get stuck in the snow. En masse. (Meanwhile, those who have the sense that God gave rabbits simply stay home and wait out the storm) Therefore, any snow event that dumps more than 10 cm of snow in Toronto is “snowmageddon”. The major highways (where drivers got stuck for 8 hours plus) are plowed by provincial-employed contractors. The city streets (which were clogged with city buses and cars abandoned by their idiotic owners) are plowed by contractors employed by the city. For another, likely only a small proportion of the 400+ staff who were fired by the city (out of more than 32,000 employees) were involved in any way with snow clearing. Maybe some were employees in Parks Dept, who would be responsible for plowing paths in the city parks. But that’s about it.

Re: collapse

Date: 2022-01-19 03:27 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Toronto has had to call in the army for less snow in the past. The city is just woefully unprepared for snow. Every. Winter.
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