Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 232

[ecosophia]

We are now into the fifth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary all these years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health remain anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; new revelations are leaking out about just how bad the Covid vaccines are for human health; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

7. Please don't post LLM ("AI") generated text. This is a place for human beings to talk to other human beings, not for the regurgitation of machine-generated text. Also, please don't discuss large language models (the technology popularly and inaccurately called "artificial intelligence" these days) except as they bear directly on the Covid phenomenon. Here again, my finger is hovering over the delete button. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

i just ran across this article
its from feb 4th

the reasoning they give sounds good but i cant help but wonder if it is a way to stop ppl from getting ivermectin and other meds..
i know that ppl have been using these places for that..

DEA Operation Meltdown Shuts Down Hundreds of Illegal Online Pharmacies

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2026/02/04/dea-operation-meltdown-shuts-down-hundreds-illegal-online-pharmacies

[charlieobert]

I just checked the two online sites I have seen having ivermectin, one of them based in India, and both are still up and running as usual. A quick search using Yandex showed a few more sites.

I wonder if this article is largely bluster, hyperbole and fearmongering - it speaks of shutting down more than 200 website domains, and it lists none of them. It also mentions six fatal overdoses, but doesn't specify from what, and gives no details - six unnamed people died from some unnamed drugs somewhere.

A little further down in mentions counterfeit pills (counterfeit of what?) made with fentanyl, which is the all-purpose drug bogeyman these days.

This may be intended to scare people away - vague undefined massive threats with no substance or follow-through.

The meme

[3bmend_135]

Do you think this will actually happen (and cause the collapse of the current medical industry)? Maybe society will eventually come to its senses and purge most late Gen Z/early Gen Alpha individuals from positions that require mental ability?

Re: The meme

[ecosophia]

Not exactly. One guess I've had for a while now is that one of the next really big scandals in American society will be the discovery that a huge number of the people who are working as physicians didn't actually qualify and don't know what they're doing, they just paid a lot of money for the credentials. Our society is so riddled by corruption and graft these days that a certificate on the wall doesn't actually mean much.

Re: The meme

[(Anonymous)]

My mother was a professor, and she "retired" shortly before Covid, when she was told to pass a student who did not submit a single assignment for her class. The order came from the university president, and when she checked, she saw that someone with the same last name had made some pretty big donations to the university shortly before the incident.

Granted, it was a Canadian university, but I doubt that American higher education is really that much better.

Re: The meme

[(Anonymous)]

It's not (any different, I mean).

I know someone who's been told to pass students because (pick one): their family made big donations / they student is critical to a sports team / if they fail the class they'll flunk out and that will hurt our numbers (often, specifically, DEAI numbers) / the parents will complain and transfer them and we'll lose tuition money.

Higher education is completely corrupt, on all levels.

Re: The meme

[robertmathiesen]

I think this guess of yours is right on target. It's not just our society at large that is
"riddled by corruption and graft" these days, but academic administration and governance in particular. No matter what, keep the grant monies flowing and the big donors happy. That's the Prime Directive here.

(I know of one undergraduate from one of the very wealthiest families in the US who finally was given her bachelor's degree after five years without having nearly completed the requirements for it. The administration was worried about keeping her family's donor money flowing.)

[(Anonymous)]

Last week there was a mention of the study from Australia. Martin Neil, Norman Fenton, and Jonathan Engler weight in:
Vaccines as the cause of Australian excess deaths in 2021, and beyond
Commentary on Ralph Latester's paper in the International Journal of Risk and Safety in Medicine
https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/vaccines-as-the-cause-of-australian

PS
Martin Neil is Professor Emeritus of computer science and statistics at Queen Mary, University of London. UK.
Norman Fenton Professor of Risk (a world renowned statistician) at Queen Mary also.
Both have been speaking out against the covidian lies early and often.

[(Anonymous)]

I've actually seen a newspaper article suggesting that since we know doctors are cheating on their exams using ChatGPT, we ought to just give it a medical license, and stop training doctors. Given how unreliable these systems are, this ranks up there as among the worst ideas I've ever heard, but it does look like in a few years we might have to worry about being seen by Doctor ChatGPT...

[(Anonymous)]

Prof. Fenton's wife, already suffering from dementia, was made very much worse by the AZ shot.

The 'correlation isn't causation' argument doesn't get very far with him.