Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 24

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Are we getting settled yet?

[violetcabra]

For whatever it may be worth, on my end I greatly admire that you make such a point of taking the perspectives of others, avoiding demonization, and employing your involvement in politics to speak up for those treated unjustly by the state. Frankly I've been appalled by the rapid descent into propaganda on all sides, and the summoning of purity taboos by the various factions to dehumanize political enemies. From my perspective, what you're doing is extremely important work which allows for the possibility of reconciliation and rapprochement, something I see far too few people on any side give even lip-service to in the rush to vilify.

Re: Are we getting settled yet?

[kashtan]

Yes, the purebloods comparison to me looks like it will just alienate possible allies. If only those who insist on Harry Potter comparisons would notice how similar the pushers of the narrative are to Dolores Umbridge instead.

Re: Are we getting settled yet?

[violetcabra]

Yes, exactly; I find it astounding that the political right is copying the mistakes of the social justice left by apparently alienating as many people as possible, at least as it relates to this issue, and even using similar a similar pseudo-racialized language. It seems to me unnerving the precise degree to which what one hates, one imitates.

Re: Are we getting settled yet?

[(Anonymous)]

It is human nature, alas.