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walking through a cemeteryThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-19 04:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh frack. Okay, so a couple of people have suggested that the point where things started going septic was around June of 2015, around when the Trump campaign started; which, if we take the seven years thing, means that the deal made in June of 2015 ought to have been rewarded with all the success they wanted until February or so of 2020, and will be dragged off stage this June.

Well, if a bunch of people made a bargain for a return of better economic conditions for the working class, then I'd say it worked out exactly as the above description seemed to suggest it would.

This also, concerningly, would suggest that the reason that the demons were able to use Trump so effectively was that he, or at least many in his camp, were under their control, and explain the insane troll logic some of his defenders used.

I wonder if this June will see some sort of major crisis...

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-19 07:04 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Building off of the above: Given how whatever forces are driving things over the past few years seem to enjoy making parallels to the late USSR, I wonder if we'll see the entire thing collapse in much the same way the USSR did. In which case, I wonder if we'll see the equivalent of our 1989 this year; in which case I wonder how it'll play out.

One possibility I see though is that either the Ontario election and/or the French Parliamentary election, both in June gives a major upset; and then the entire Covid narrative will come crashing down, destroying the legitimacy of the Western political/social/economic system altogether as it does so.

I don't know French politics well enough, but if the New Blue Party here in Ontario ends up looking like it has any kind of chance at victory, I'm going to be very, very concerned about what happens next...

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-19 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have the same hypothesis, I will make this correspondences similar to the one you make in magic

USSR - USSA

Cernobyl - Covid
Perestroyka(rebuilding) - Great Reset - 6uild 6ack 6etter
Satelites going crazy(85-89) - 2020/2021 NATO vassals going crazy authoritarian
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Hasn't happen

Berlin Wall '89 - 2022 Breaking the narrative
Romania '89. - 2022 Revolution in one of the vassals (France?!, Japan?!, Australia!?)
Fall of USSR winter '91 - 2022/2023 Fall of the USSA Empire

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 03:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Canada would be my guess for the revolution.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 09:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Canada would be very interesting because it is a source of energy and resources for US
Also many people seem to ignore the fracking Bonanza which is on life support for years, my guess that this ignorance is more like denial.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 05:04 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmm.

1989/2022:

Surprise victories for opposition parties lead to the established regime collapsing in at least one major country (Poland in the case of the USSR; France would be one guess for now (with the National Rally playing the role of Solidarity), Canada is another if Ontario and/or Quebec's legislative elections are won by "radicals".

Shortly thereafter, the USSR declared it would not use military force in foreign nations' affairs; perhaps the USA decides against intervening somewhere (my guess is in Taiwan).

East Germany reopens their border and reunifies with West Germany; perhaps North and South Korea will reunify? It won't be the same, but it could be an odd parallel.

1990/2023:

"The War of Laws" breaks out, with several parts of the USSR asserting that their laws are supreme over the laws of the central government. I could easily see Texas or Florida deciding to refuse to follow federal law over the Covid issues, with an enormous amount of support.

Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia declare independence, taking the position they had always, legally, been sovereign. In the current context, perhaps Texas, Hawaii, and/or Vermont take that radical step?

1991/2024:

Efforts to reform the USSR into a looser confederation were proposed; leading to a constitutional crisis and then a short lived and catastrophic coup attempt. This could be translated fairly easily.

Finally, on Christmas, the USSR ceased to exist, wiping out savings and plunging millions into destitution and large parts of the world into various degrees of chaos. Again, without much difficulty this could be translated into the fall of the USA.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 09:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

I think the data point that puts the date more towards 1991/2022 is Afghanistan

USSR - USSA
Afghanistan exit beginning of '89 - Afghanistan exit middle of 2021





Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm waiting to see what happens in June: I have a sense that the lead up will be different, but that the actual collapse will parallel the fall of the USSR creepily precise, and if so, then unexpected landslides for opposition parties in elections in an ally in June would be a good sign...

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-22 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Berlin Wall '89 might be Britains brake of the narrative

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dmitry Orlov wrote the book on comparative superpower collapse, and I highly recommend it. "Reinventing Collapse" is the title. A broader look at societal collapse generally is his"The Five Stages of Collapse".

He has later written that one of the stages he expected to happen last, cultural collapse, is pretty much a fait accompli in the USA. The USSR never reached that stage.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-19 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] the_copper_dragon
I can already tell ypu that it started way earlier than that...try the summer of 2013-2014 when they started peddling bs social justice really hard in schools, in media, on the internet. Trump just exacerbated everything.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-19 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For me it is increasingly clear that there is some underlying connection between the covidian cultism and what I call "wokieness." Both are anti-human, yet, deviously, play on the very human yearning to care for others.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 05:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I noticed the astral start to deteriorate markedly in the summer of 2015; the wokesters were annoying, but tolerable, but something changed bigly in that summer.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For me, it became palpable ever since March 2016 when it was clear Trump had a lock in the Republican presidential nomination. And the badness kicked into high gear shortly before Trump's inauguration. I think there really were a lot of people who thought Trump was going to pull a "Chancellor Palpatine" and establish a right-wing dictatorship, because this astral funkiness was just feverish for something like two months after that inauguration. --Mr.Nobody
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