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walking through a cemeteryThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 05:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No need to apologize! I realize what I wrote might have come across as harsher than I meant it to. What I mean to say is that I think everyone here is in a similar boat, and all we can do is try to keep going: avoiding giving into fear and despair, but try to make the best of the truly awful cards we've all been dealt.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 07:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
Oh it was not anything you said don't worry but thank you for saying it! :-) I am just a little too self-conscious just now due to some sort of a lot of journaling going on on my end and that leaks sometimes. I can't but agree with you again, we are all in this and giving in to fear and despair can't do any good. That is why I memorizes both quotes above as well as some bits from the Enchiridion. Dealing with it really is top-rate mental and emotional training, that's something good to get out of this, given that my generation is basically one of the most fragile our species has ever created and I really don't want that aspect of my generation to stick with me.
Edited Date: 2022-01-20 07:12 am (UTC)

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-20 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think most generations alive today in well of countries are among the most fragile in history; I know mine is (very late Millennial) , although one good thing about the universe is that a lot of people have strengths they don't know they have. I'm hoping the same thing holds on a collective level, and that we'll see people rise to the challenge. If not, at least I'll be able to know I burned through a ton of negative karma, and am going to be in a better position going forward.

I wish you the best of luck with this painful situation, and hope that you can ensure that whatever you must endure makes you a better person.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-21 05:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] open_space
And likewise! I always like meeting kind and thoughtful people, it gives me hope.

In one of JMGs magical training programs he says that human skills have fallen so low that even just a little development on them will make you rise, or something like that. I think he is right, some people these days don't know from which end to hold a hammer.

Re: Mood change?

Date: 2022-01-21 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Your comments have given me hope as well: knowing that others are thinking of the same things I am, and that there are other people out there struggling with the question of what happens now makes me feel a lot less alone, and a lot more confident that there will be something other than misery to look forward to once all this is over.

I was going into academia when Covid hit, and then went into a job in fast food, since my options were very limited by how little I could actually do. I went from being hopelessly incompetent to able to handle things surprisingly quickly once I set my mind on the task, but when I look back on it I am amazed at how few skills I actually had. I still have a long ways to go before I'll feel comfortable with using my skills for anything, but I think you're right about just how much room to improve there is for most people.
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