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walking through a cemeteryThe semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as more and more vaccinated people call in sick with the disease the vaccine was supposed to keep them from getting, and the euphemism "died suddenly" sounds like a repeated drumbeat in the media, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2022-01-18 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here in Finland one gets the impression that politicians and the elite are looking for the exist ramps now.
We don't get as much demonization of the unfoxed here as before. Reading headlines in the media, there are questions now about how many boosters are feasible. Media experts don't think it is realistic to vixenate people every 6 months. Just a few months a go you couldn't openly question the vixens at all. So something about the ”narrative” tm has shattered here at least.
Vixen passports are not sure thing either, there are serious legal problems with them...etc

It seems that the economic damage, the general loss of trust and the damage to the institutions overwhelms the desire to do ” a great reset”, for now at least. But the damage has been done none the less. There will be no return to old normal, ever again. So the ”great reset” people got that part right, but maybe not in the way they imagined.

I personally used to be an old school, working class lefty but I can't imagine ever voting for them ever again. This was the final straw for me. How can I ever trust my countrymen to be rational, when they wanted to force a medical experiment on people against their will? They even injected this poison into children just because they themselves were afraid (They found out that life was fragile and didn't like that notion). You can't have a functioning democracy when people are driven by their basic impulses, fears and desires; I think Patrick Deneens thesis was proven right emperically (not that the left will ever admit to it). So when the dust finally settles, where do we go from here?

-Juhani

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Date: 2022-01-18 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Politicians, even very high ranking ones, often get confused for elites. I do not get the impression that the elites are heading for the exits, but the politicians sure are! You can see it in their eyes getting a little wilder. Many of them are starting to understand that they've been played as useful idiots BY the elites, and they are also realizing that they are a nice visible buffer between the pitchforks and the elites, which is not an ideal place to be positioned. Some are now trying to be the MOST useful idiot, in the hopes that they will get a seat in the life raft when it comes time (I'm looking at you Austria, Germany, France, Canada and Australia). Problem is, the elites care for them as little as they care for us, which is to say, they don't. They are happy to flush the lot of us, politicians included, when their usefulness wanes. The elites though, they aren't heading for the exits. I expect them to double down, over and over, in the coming decade. They are deadly serious, they know the score, and used to getting what they want.

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Date: 2022-01-18 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My comment on the Joe Rogan situation. Not very original, I assume...

https://ashtarbookblog.blogspot.com/2022/01/free-speech-how-does-it-work.html

And here is the open letter from, ahem, scientists, demanding that Rogan (or rather Malone) be censored.

https://spotifyopenletter.wordpress.com/2022/01/10/an-open-letter-to-spotify/

Tidlösa, Sweden

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Date: 2022-01-18 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Two thoughts about the letter calling for Malone to be censored:

a) Make a copy of it, with the signers' names. If events develop as many anticipate, that letter will be memory-holed. Those who have endorsed the suppression of reasoned argument -- and in the name of science! -- should have this letter hung round their necks like a dead albatross. The disgrace should follow them everywhere they go professionally, at least until they repent, apologize, and try to make amends.

b) Is anyone drafting a letter supporting Malone? It would be lovely to see it get a few million signatures.

Gray Hat

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UK Vaccine Data

Date: 2022-01-18 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
An analysis showing that vaccines are associated with higher covid risk, using UK data.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/vaccines-and-boosters-associated

Another data point among billions

Date: 2022-01-18 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] revert2mean
Went to the doctor this morning (very unusual) to complain about mandatory indoor masking and get a routine prescription. First cab out of the gate:
Doctor: "Are you vaccinated against covid-19?"
Me: "Don't even start."
Doctor: "What is the reason you are not vaccinated against covid-19?"
Me: "People are dropping dead all over the place from those shots, all these double- and triple-vaxxed people are really sick, so many more people than last year when there were no vaxes, and the illness itself is no big deal, you just take some ivermectin or mebendazole or something as soon as you get symptoms and you get better in a few hours. There is a decision being made not to use effective treatments against this illness, for whatever reason, and to make it into a big deal."
Doctor: (Silence.)

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Date: 2022-01-18 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
[slow clap accelerating into racous applause] Nice! Way to shut down the narrative before it starts spluttering its nonsense.

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Liberal Authoritarianism

Date: 2022-01-18 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Two weeks ago it was !OMG we are stacking them in the isles there are so many!! Last week it was, there are plenty of beds, we just don't have the staff. This week it is, looks like Omicron is peaking....

As Liberals sense the hair on fire apocalypse now narrative is falling apart, the new hair on fire thing is !Civil War!! I heard it constantly last week on.NPR. The new darling is Barbara Walter, a professor in San Diego who wrote the diffi itive book. She is a permanent member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a fellow at the CIA. She is advocating for a department on domestic terrorism, and quite

literally fomenting a war against the white working class. Liberals love her. https://www.barbarafwalter.com/

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Date: 2022-01-18 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tamanous2020
My work will be requiring vaccines regardless of all the vaccinated coming down with the coof, so I'll be looking for a religious exemption. A big thanks to stcathalexandria and open_space for the links to the rosicrucian groups in last weeks thread.

Have either of the druid orgs, OBOD or ADOA, had any organizational stances in support of vaccine exemptions as well?

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Date: 2022-01-19 01:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm not a lawyer, but a lawyer that I heard on the Peak Prosperity podcast recently had something interesting to say about religious exemptions. It seems that the law and accepted practice in the USA (before covid, anyway) is that employers cannot inquire into the specifics or evaluate the validity of your religious convictions. It should be enough for you to simply say "I refuse because of my religious beliefs." If they don't accept that, you have grounds to sue them, and precedent is in your favor.

On the other hand, losing your job and fighting it in court is not fun, so naturally you'd want to persuade them the first time.

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Date: 2022-01-18 11:29 pm (UTC)
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https://swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/


Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and one of the leading Israeli immunologists, has written an open letter sharply criticizing the Israeli – and indeed global – management of the coronavirus pandemic.

Original letter in Hebrew: N12 News (January 6, 2022); translated by Google/SPR. See also: Professor Qimron’s prediction from August 2020: “History will judge the hysteria” (INN).

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Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure

In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

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Date: 2022-01-22 05:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
so... if you disagree with this guy, are you anti-science, an anti-semite, or better yet both?

so far, when pushed far enough, i opt for the argument that "until all BIPOC and LGBTQ+ are vaxxed, i can't in good conscience exert my white privilege and accept these wonderful treatments. if i die, so be it, it's the price i have to pay to atone for things." it gets the PMC heads spinning.

this will add another layer to the cognitive dissonance.

- p coyle

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Date: 2022-01-18 11:33 pm (UTC)
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Your usual updated .epub file containing hypothesis, all opens posts with all comments to date.
https://mega.nz/file/YZZFyKxT#IZB7xUDwrE2hqlPTIz-gvzraEDL-v04CvaZ2uh67y0E

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Thank you

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Date: 2022-01-18 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I’m seeing small gaps on the shelves, and some empty spaces even here in my local supermarket in the Netherlands.

It’s not as bad as on your side of the Atlantic, but it’s noticeable.

(For my fellow Dutch readers, I’m refering to the supermarkt that sponsors a F1 raceteam)

- Spork -

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Date: 2022-01-19 04:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's very regional in the U.S. the north east has serious supply chain issues but the Midwest is mostly unscathed.

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From: [personal profile] kashtan
While reading RFK Jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci", it struck me that his views are very much leftist in the old-school sense. Considering he's from one of the best known Democratic families in the country and has spent much of his life as an environmental advocate, he's certainly got leftist credentials. The fact that many on the left are lumping him in with the right wing shows just how extreme the purity politics of the left have become. Just ten years ago, such a book that investigated government corruption and corporate influence, warned of tyranny and abuse of power, and advocated for human rights would have been considered solidly left wing and compared to writers like Noam Chomsky.

With his book having made the bestseller lists, it's clear that RFK Jr has become one of the most prominent people fighting against the mainstream narrative. Yet, he's also still a staunch believer in progress, the tone of his words throughout the book makes that clear. He just doesn't believe the current establishment is leading to Progress. It's made me reconsider some thoughts I've had about the future of Progress. I've been observing throughout the COVID situation how deeply intertwined the religion of Progress has become with the COVID narrative, especially the vaccine narrative. The foundation was put in place pre-COVID with the "trust the science" mantra and vilification of anyone who questions anything about any vaccine.

Until I read RFK Jr's book, I thought that a collapse of the COVID narrative would necessarily entail a significant collapse of the religion of Progress. Now I'm not so sure. RFK Jr. has possibly placed himself into a role similar to Martin Luther, exposing the abuse of power by the clergy of Progress while not rejecting the entire faith. I think there's a lot of people out there questioning the narrative but not about to question the religion of Progress as a whole, so we could be seeing a splintering of the faith like Christianity had with the reformation. If RFK Jr. doesn't play that role then there are others that possibly could. This is good news to me because RFK Jr's sect of progress strikes me as a whole lot more sane then the sect that has the power in the world right now, even if neither is able to cope with the long-term issues that face our civilization. Only a small percentage of people are willing to have the conversations that we're having on this forum. We need allies, so if a sect of Progress forms that are also allies in stopping tyranny, I'd see it as very good news.

In the long run, I do expect the religion of Progress to steadily decline along with our civilization, but I doubt it will collapse suddenly. Splintering into different factions seems more likely in that people wouldn't have to give up their core beliefs.
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One possibility which has occurred to me is that it won't die: Christians have been debating when the Second Coming will happen, and Jews when the Messiah will arrive, for millennia. It's possible that people a few hundred years from now will still think something like the Star Trek future is a possibility, if they only do the right rituals and can appease the gods just right.
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From: [personal profile] kimberlysteele
Sorry for the lack of transcription -- the gist of this video is a vaccine-injured woman listening to a non-emergency doctor tell her that the vaccines will be "stopped" soon across the world. In other words, they will be recalled because they are unsafe. She also warns the woman not to take any boosters. The woman says that her sister was planning on getting the booster tomorrow and the doctor advises her to warn her sister.

Just me interjecting my opinion but I think the vaccines will eventually be shown to be the worst collective mistake in human history.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AU3rH2QamMeY/
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From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for this. I share your opinion, that "the vaccines will eventually be shown to be the worst collective mistake in human history."

Eventually might be a long time from now, however.

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Date: 2022-01-19 12:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
NHS will start sacking unvaccinated staff early next month
All frontline workers are required to have had two Covid jabs by April 1, meaning first dose must have been administered by Feb 3

The NHS will lose a lot of their best staff. It's hard to believe the UK government will go ahead with this. On the radio they are already advertising for care home staff and nursing staff. Care home staff who are unjabbed have already been fired. Also they will fire all carers who visit the elderly in their own homes too, if they are unvaxxed.

There is a backlash brewing, not to mention many lawsuits.

On the plus side, sacked workers have nothing to lose so I expect a lot of whistleblowing.

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Date: 2022-01-19 01:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They're advertising for care home staff and nursing staff?

Where do they expect to find qualified people who aren't already working in the industry? Somebody hasn't thought this through very well.

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Date: 2022-01-19 01:03 am (UTC)
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Ideological science is bad science: Corona vaccination and Soviet Lysenkoism

https://www.rintrah.nl/ideological-science-is-bad-science-corona-vaccination-and-soviet-lysenkoism/

~rintrah

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Date: 2022-01-19 07:36 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Rintrah! Really enjoy your blogs. Thanks for doing what you do!

-Derpherder

International Tourism

Date: 2022-01-19 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] weilong
My little corner of Japan used to be a destination for tourists from around the world. That stopped, as the borders have been effectively closed for almost two years now. There was a while there when even resident aliens (i.e. people with visas permitting them to live/work in Japan) were not allowed back in if they had the misfortune to get stuck in another country when the covid hysteria started.

However, in this little town, the construction of a super-expensive, members-only resort hotel is proceeding apace. They are placing orders for expensive food, and booking eco-tourism tours and such. So there is this one company that caters to the very rich, and they are getting ready for international tourism to resume this summer.

Makes me wonder if they know something I don't. I will be watching to see if travel restrictions get eased later this year. Perhaps only for elites, and not for the hoi-polloi?

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From: [personal profile] tritumi
If you have lived here for a while you probably know that construction is an area most attractive to the ruling class. Sounds like a project more suitable to the bubble economy years, though. Can you say what the group is that constitutes "members only"?

Japan, as of yesterday 1/18, is reinstituting limited emergency measures in 13 prefectures including Tokyo. Early closings, limited group size, less/no alcohol sales, etc. Omicron infections exploding, all of nine dead, though.

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Waning Narrative Efficacy

Date: 2022-01-19 01:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi JM,

I'd like to ask your opinion on where you think this is headed: the narrative is rapidly changing towards an 180° reversal and with it many of the axiomatic 'facts' of the pandemic.

1), the masks dont work and it should be N95 only going forward (which dont work either, as a viral prevention measure that is).

2), the jab doesnt prevent transmission or symptoms (a complete flip from the certitude of their efficacy)

3), lockdowns may have been counter productive (just 2 weeks to save ER capacity!)

4), remote schooling is an unmitigated disaster (but now students and educators are fighting to go back remote)

With all this stated: where do you think the jab mandates will go?

It's clear they produce negative efficacy (to use their nomenclature), and are producing dramatic externalities in terms of the number of visible/televised athletes or spectators collapsing routinely.

Will they try and maintain the requirements to get jabbed?

Will they just pivot to using a new formula and trojan horse than into the existing emergency mamdates? (Pfizer stated they have a new one on the way)

FWIW - I got it to keep my job and am facing a booster requirement in the not too distant future.

Also, children locally are facing expulsion if they dont comply with the mandates (5-17 yo).

I'm wondering how long can things be held out before the inevitable backlash renders them non viable

Thanks for your time

Anon

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From: (Anonymous)
I can't possibly hope to answer your question but reading your text made me instantly think about Keynes.

The Markets Can Remain Irrational Longer Than You Can Remain Solvent

Trade accordingly...

What people say, what others hear

Date: 2022-01-19 02:48 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Testing: "we have a test to identify this virus", the experts say. What the non-experts hear is "if you pass this test today, you will not be sick tomorrow, and can safely mingle with other people who passed the test."

Masking: "wear a mask, unless you need to take it off to eat or drink", the expert says. The non-expert hears "I can't get infected while eating or drinking, so I'll just do both while I've gathered with friends."

Vaccination: "vaccination's side effects are less dangerous than the illness, and breakthrough infection is less dangerous than naive infection"... " "Somebody told me this was 'safe' and 'effective'; doesn't that mean that I'm immune (bordering on immortal)?"

Distance: "Thou shalt maintain distance, unless conduct of essential business requires contact."... "The accountant said that this was a 'business activity' for tax purposes, so it must also qualify for infection control." (Obviously Boris Johnson's crew was not taking the virus risk personally, even as they prescribed limitations for others.)

Age: "Those over 65 have the highest risk of serious illness, though anyone can get infected."... "As an elderly politician, it is crucial to all of us that your child not increase MY risk."

Note that I consider all of the policy-makers and policy-communicators "non-expert".

It all reminds me of something that a park ranger once told me: "there's a surprising overlap in intelligence between our dumber campers and our smarter bears."

Lathechuck

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Date: 2022-01-19 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
>there's a surprising overlap in intelligence between our dumber campers and our smarter bears.

There was some sort of woo article I was reading where one of the statements that jumped out at me was "about 2/3 of humanity should've spent more time as animals before moving up, they moved up to being human too soon".

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Date: 2022-01-19 05:03 am (UTC)
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A bit off-topic but a great parable for coflu.

I am learning beekeeping for the last year, here in ultra-liberal PNW.

It was surprising how much pushback and anger I got just for suggesting that I would like to do natural (no-treatment) beekeeping.
I don't know if it's possible (though people in other places seem to manage it).
Even if it's not possible right now, I would consider it a worthy goal to strive for.
Instead, I had people that lost all their hives defending the commercial beekeepers ("it's your fault if the hives die!").
Just for context, all the commercial beekeepers here take their hives to California early in the spring for the almond bloom. Almonds for those who don't know, are some of the most poisoned plants with pesticides (https://www.whatsonmyfood.org/food.jsp?food=AL).

And yet, nobody is asking for better choices, or trying to pushback on the lies (I bought a nuc as being "local" when it's from California).

So people keep buying bees every year, having them die over the winter then going back to the same place and doing it again - and blaming themselves for the failure!

There it is, just another story of human insanity.

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Date: 2022-01-19 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And the reason they all pimp their bees out to walk the streets is that nobody can sell honey for less then the Chinese, mainly because the Chinese cut their honey with HFCS and get away with it. One of the reasons you see labels saying "this honey isn't Chinese, honest, we mean it" and one of the reasons I stopped buying honey altogether.

I think if you asked most of the professional beekeepers, if they could make an honest living just selling honey and keeping their bees where they are, they'd do it in a heartbeat. Although with China cutting the world off for various reasons, I suspect it'll become easier for those that survived to make their nut selling honey again.

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Date: 2022-01-19 05:10 am (UTC)
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Question for people in UK and elsewhere:
Do you see a lot of government pushback against people trying to provide some food for themselves?

I noticed multiple news from UK:
- They are trying to disallow backyard chickens
- They are pushing back against backyard beekeepers

Among the many counterproductive things that the govts are doing, this must be the most horrible idea ever. And yet, I can see how a lot of big ag companies could support it.

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Date: 2022-01-19 08:58 am (UTC)
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Yeah as a farmer I can safely say a lot of this comes from big ag. So does the vego/vegan push, as all the feed stock for the vegan burgers etc are their tightly controlled high input crops like soy and maize.

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From the trenches in Australia

Date: 2022-01-19 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fredsmith11
Worst stats yet via the usual post-mass-vax climb in infections and deaths. 36 deaths in NSW yesterday, 33 of those double vaxxed. Tiny by US standards, but highest ever here.

They've relaxed the isolation requirements and reduced testing, because so many people were testing positive there weren't going to be any workers left. Even so many people are off work, supply chains are creaking and a few items are missing, or have limits in supermarkets.

If you're unvaxxed then the narrative never made a shred of sense, so it's hard to judge if it's shifting, but Yes they've given up on "vaxxes stop infection spreading" and mostly "stop hospitalisations".

The main message left is get your booster to stop OMICRON nailing you, but that doesn't make any sense either, because the booster is just another dose of a vax aimed at a strain from 2 years ago.

Watched some acquaintances on FB swapping stories about their booster side effects, kind of boasting about who had it the worst. It was like stepping into a bizarre, parallel universe.

Good news out of the UK where a group has successfully opened a criminal case about vax injuries and deaths with the Met Police and are using it to close down vax centres, sometimes with Police assistance.

Info about that on Telegram with other useful stuff, but plenty of disinfo too.

Re Novax being deported, it often gets to 40+ degrees C in Melbourne during the Open, so it's a candidate for more 'inexplicable' athlete collapses. It would be so ironic if Nadal keels over during one of his typically epic 5 setters, after he said Novax should shut up and just get the jab.





Well that went well ...

Date: 2022-01-19 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] australiandreamer
I was talking to someone in a zoom group just now who is just getting over the covid - she believes that she got it from a man who had a mask exception in her retail job.

For background the lady in question identifies as both a Christian and as politically neutral.

Elements of the conversation that I found 'helpful' included:

- her referring to him as a Covid-denier (later on used the term anti-vaxxer as well) - me mentioning that both of those were political terms used to demonise the 'other' and offering an alternate option - denied.

- her saying that when she gets back to work she is not going to be as nice to people since being nice to them let them infect her - me suggesting a more internally focussed ambition like 'I wasn't careful enough before, I am going to take extra care to look after myself as well as my customers when I get back' might be a healthier response - also denied.

- her saying that she hoped he too got really sick - me pointing out that that was cursing and that was totally off script for a Christian ... followed by

- her doubling down and saying that she hoped he got sick so badly that he could hardly crawl to see a doctor (which had me wincing inside at the coming flashback heading her way) - me wondering how that worked in with her blessing those who curse you and praying for those who spitefully mistreat you* - which got a 'ha' followed by ...

- her saying 'I hope he dies' ...

I could say 'I hope the universe wasn't listening to that interaction' ... but the universe never sleeps.


* apparently this comes under the heading of one of Jesus' unimportant suggestions rather than any kind of command / rule to follow if you a Christian


(of course after posting that I started to meditate on the areas in my own life where, if not so publicly visible, I was equally falling short of the standard so there was some positive in the interaction ... actually there were two as a young man (also present but silent during the interaction) and I were able to discuss the principles after she had left))
Edited (post posting experience.) Date: 2022-01-19 09:18 am (UTC)

Less incidence in Spain

Date: 2022-01-19 09:54 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://english.elpais.com/society/2022-01-19/spains-coronavirus-incidence-rate-falls-for-the-first-time-in-two-and-a-half-months.html
So according the Narrative, vaxxing is sucessful against omicron moronic...(ironic).

6 years old

Date: 2022-01-19 09:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A tragic development in the ultra-vaccinated Portugal. The vaccination of children 5 to 12 is the most controversial, where technical opinions are secret but many pediatricians, including the president of the professional order, manifested reservations or open disagreement. There are not vaccine mandates here, but if the children are engaged in sports they must have a vax certificate or test each time the attend the activity. Many parents are vaccinating because of sports or other recriational activities. Saturday a 6 years old vaccinated boy collapsed, and entered the hospital already death. Seven days after the 1st cominarty dose. No word on TV, but newspapers noticed it. Autopsy was inconclusive, and further tests will take up to one month to produce results. The child had no previously known health issues. The case is notified in national and European vaers. It is a major tragedy! The question is, will it ever be admitted that the vaccination was a cause of death? Where would all the scientists, health authorities and politicians hide if it was the case? All the parents that, despite the hesitation toke their children to the vaccine, just to not be troubled by the 6 tests every month? I doubt the cause of death will be known publicly, I just hope other parents are paying attention...

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Date: 2022-01-19 10:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The Health Minister here in Queensland said this recently:

"I want to be clear that if you have had COVID that there is no reason to delay coming forward for a vaccination whether it's a first, a second or a booster.

"As long as you have recovered from your symptoms there is no reason to delay coming forward."

"No reason" eh? I could think of at least one!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-18/qld-coronavirus-covid-16-deaths-hospital-cases-rising/100761868

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Date: 2022-01-19 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Hurry up and get a vaccine for a disease you just had and for which you now have natural immunity that is better and probably longer-lasting than the vaccine-induced immunity."

The logic here is truly something to see.

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42 questions about covid

Date: 2022-01-19 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I found this summary done through a list of outstanding questions grounding

https://rudolphrigger.substack.com/p/its-a-marathon-man

The part that creeps me out the most is the "build back better" messaging used across the western nations. Its clear now they wanted to "great reset" but somehow got impotent and couldn't complete it. Why?

Re: 42 questions about covid

Date: 2022-01-19 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for this-- it's an excellent post. I printed it out. The author is a "theoretical physicist with over 30 years research experience. Mostly esoteric quantum mechanics but some cryptography and security experience thrown in for good measure." Interesting!

His latest post is amusing funny, but also crunchy-- about counterfactuals:

"It Would Have Been So Much Worse"
https://rudolphrigger.substack.com/p/it-would-have-been-so-much-worse

"I wear an amulet around my neck that has protected me from being trampled by a rhino. It’s very effective. If I hadn’t worn it I would have gone on an instant rhino-diet and become impossibly thin.
"Where’s your evidence?
"I haven’t been trampled by a rhino

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More on vaccine side-effects

Date: 2022-01-19 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Public debate on side-effects is being censored (https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-need-to-talk-about-the-vaccines/)

Re: More on vaccine side-effects

Date: 2022-01-20 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Any public debate about safety and side effects of any vaccine, or the recommended vaccine schedules as a whole, has already been censored for a long time.
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