Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86
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So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2023-03-28 07:02 pm (UTC)“People who don’t believe in vaccines are by far the most gullible people on earth.
We have all the science that shows they work, but they’ll still deny it. If I’m ever in a position to influence people, anti-vaxxers would
Definitely be the easiest to manipulate to gain notoriety.”
Robert W. Malone, MD
10:17AM, August 19, 2019
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/bob-sad
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Date: 2023-03-28 08:00 pm (UTC)https://twitter.com/Censored4sure/status/1639417031983259648
is listed in my search engine as per the https:// link above: https://sagehana.substack.com/p/bob-sad
it no longer is discoverable.
The Luther 'Cyrus' account is active.
Whether Malone said that or not is up in the air without a confirming source.
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Date: 2023-03-28 07:22 pm (UTC)With the studies showing no positive effects from wearing masks (nothing about the negative effects of mask wearing), the hospital group decided to remove the mask requirement and make wearing them up to the person.
In a week or two I'll give some impressions on what I've seen. As for me, while I have masks ready in case of requests I've happily stopped using masks myself.
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"A new report estimates that 26.6 million people were injured, 1.36 million disabled, and 300,000 excess deaths can be attributed to COVID-19 vaccine damages in 2022 alone, which cost the economy nearly $150 billion."
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Date: 2023-03-28 09:39 pm (UTC)My head went BOOM!
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Date: 2023-03-28 10:57 pm (UTC)Cetiosaurus
Pharmacist Kim Darlington: "I could no longer in good faith inject the covid shots into people"
Date: 2023-03-28 11:17 pm (UTC)posted February 12, 2023
https://rumble.com/v297djc-pandemic-harms-listening-session-wenatchee-wa-28jan23.html
TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES: Wenatchee, a small city in Washington state, USA, lies approximately 150 miles east of Seattle. Unfortunately this testimony was briefly interrupted several times by an apparently faulty sound system; nonetheless, throughout, the context remains clear.
TRANSCRIPT
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KIM DARLINGTON [at podium, addressing large audience]: Hi friends. My name is Kim Darlington and I have a bachelors of science degree in pharmacy from Oregon State University. Go Beavers! [laughs] And I have lived and worked as a pharmacist in the Wenatchee Valley for over 30 years. I love this valley.
When the covid 19 pandemic happened, our health care system was assaulted and turned upside down. I made the decision in 2022 to quit my job 10 years early because I could no longer in good faith inject the covid shots into people. Even though I quit my job, I'm still a licensed pharmacist and none of us here are anti-vaxxers. We are only anti-covid shot. And my words are not mis- or disinformation, it's my first-hand experience on the front lines of this pandemic from day one.
I actually started the immunization program at our little CostCo pharmacy in East Wenatchee, so if any of you have gotten a shot there in the last 15 years, chances are I might have given it to you. I hope it was painless. [laughs] Really, I prided myself on giving good shots. And I even had customers that asked for me by name to give them their flu shots each year. We gave lots of different shots, like hepatitis, Shingrix Zostavax, measles, DTaP, flu, pneumonia, and many others for many years with no issues.
Then in 2021 we received the new covid shots and it was all so surreal. I had never injected anything into my body or somebody else'e body that had been studied that little in my career. It was unprecedented.
I gave the covid shots to the public for about a year until I just couldn't do it anymore. Something was not right. We saw people throw up, pass out —
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— [didn't] want to get the shot but they had to, being forced to or they'd lose their jobs. It was heartbreaking.
I wanted to learn what to tell people about these new shots when they asked me, so I did what I always did with a new drug, and went to the package in—
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All three of them only said the words Intentionally Blank. [she unfolds a package insert, to demonstrate] This is an actual covid package insert. Intentionally blank. And a normal all —
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— and they usually — this is a flu one for Afluria which a lot of you may have gotten this year, it has tons and tons of case studies, it has the ingredients and the side effects.
MALE VOICE: Thank you.
KIM DARLINGTON: That's how most drugs are. But in the case of the covid shots we weren't allowed to know anything about them before we started injecting them into you.
When I asked questions at work I was told to follow the memos on what to say to people. There was a narrative push on healthcare workers that the quote [makes air quotes with fingers] vaccines were safe and effective for everyone. We were forced to get the shots ourselves or lose our jobs. So we had hundreds of health care workers from our little Confluence Health Clinic —
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— used to get the shots. It was unprecedented. I was still trying to find information on the shot —
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— care since since 1990. It stands for Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System.** It's monitored by both the CDC and the FDA to provide, quote, a national safety monitoring system for response to public health emergencies like a pandemic, end quote.
But with the covid 19 pandemic we were told to ignore this data because it was not accurate. I believe that could be true and the recorded deaths and adverse effects from these shots could be much higher. I don't believe that the athletes and young people that are suddenly dropping dead after getting their boosters are being classified as covid shot deaths. So even if the VAERS report deaths are artificially low [bangs hand on podium] the covid shots have killed more people that every immunization in our history and put together. Yet we are still giving them to people.
I remember years ago getting swine flu shots in the pharmacy and the VAERS report had reported a few deaths, and that shot was taken off the market. That's how the system is supposed to work.
None of the covid shots have ever been approved either, they were only for emergency use. I remember when the news was announced that the Pfizer shot was approved. We got a memo in the pharmacy that said we could tell people it was approved. But it was a bait and switch situation. A Pfizer product called Comirnaty* was approved, but it was not available to us. But Pfizer argued that they were interchangeable products and later it was found they were not.
The covid shots should be taken off the market and not replaced because we have treatments available like Ivermectin. Ivermectin has been around for decades and has been proven safe and effective in human doses in the pill form that we have available in the pharmacy, not the livestock paste in the feed store. The World Health Organization classifies Ivermectin as an essential medicine worldwide. It has been shown to have both anti-inflammatory and anti-viral activity, which is why it works so good on the covid 19 virus.
Some pharmacies began to refuse to fill legitimate prescriptions for Ivermectin under the explanation that it was not approved for covid 19. Well in pharmacy we often fill prescriptions for off-label use. It's supposed to be up to the doctor and the patient. I was shut down on more than one occasion from filling a legitimate Ivermectin prescription during that time.
The agenda was for people to get more shots. The idea of natural immunity was completely cancelled.
I believe that someday soon the media is going to have to let the truth out. And it will show that the covid 19 virus was unleashed on us intentionally. This pandemic was planned and the shots were planned. The effects of the covid pandemic will go down in our history—
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— for our next generation.
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And as Ronald Reagan once said, freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and passed on for them to do the same.
Thank you and God bless you all.
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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:
* See https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/comirnaty
** Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System
https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html
Note: https://openvaers.com/covid-data provides VAERS data in a more reader-friendly presentation
2021 Whistleblower Pharmacist Nichole Belland Talks to Mordechai Sones
Date: 2023-03-28 11:22 pm (UTC)*
She refused to ‘just follow orders’: Why Cortez, Colorado lost its most dedicated pharmacist
Mordechai Sones
October 27, 2021
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/2/frontlinenews/she-refused-to-just-follow-orders-why-cortez-colorado-lost-its-most-dedicated-pharmacist/
Backup copy:
Safeway Pharmacist Couldn't Continue to Give People the Jab
Kevin's Political Commentary
October 31, 2021
(apparently copied from America's Front Line Doctors)
https://rumble.com/voix7b-safeway-pharmacist-couldnt-continue-to-give-people-the-jab.html
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MORDECHAI SONES: We're speaking to Dr. Nicole Belland, the pharmacist from Cortez, Colorado who quit her job in the Safeway Pharmacy, telling her customers she no longer provide them the covid 19 vaccine, calling it poison. Good morning, Dr. Belland.
NICHOLE BELLAND: Good morning. Nice to be with you.
MORDECHAI SONES: Thanks for joining us. First of all, could you tell us a little bit about who you are, how long you've worked there, something about your job?
NICHOLE BELLAND: Sure. I've been a pharmacist now since graduating from the University of Minnesota in 2000, so I've got 20 years plus as being a pharmacist with that experience. I've been with Safeway in Cortez for 11 going on 12 years now. So I've gotten to know my customers quite well, I mean, I've known many of them for a decade. So it's, what's unfolding with these shots is, was getting harder and harder to not recognize. So I'm kind of, I really want to get the message out I mean that there are red flags along the way. I guess I'm trying to tell my colleagues, the other pharmacists because I don't understand why they're not seeing what I see. And it makes me --
MORDECHAI SONES: I think we could ask you about that. What kind of things do you see? When did you first begin to suspect something was wrong?
NICHOLE BELLAND: So of course at the beginning I was concerned because the vaccine roll-out happened so fast. And historically we just don't have vaccines come upon, you know, come upon us that quickly. And so I started researching pretty, pretty quick into this, this whole mess, researching mRNA technologies and stumbled upon studies that were using animal studies, and was rather horrified to see the outcomes of those studies and that, you know, didn't really have animals that would survive long term in these trials. That gave me great concern. I mean, just that in itself. So I was a little bit leery.
And at the same time we're listening to — you know, I had turned my TV off quite a long time ago, and had been researching on my own for a while, but I still have my professional organizations, and everyone saying how wonderful and effective these shots are, and everyone was excited to give them. And then I got the package, I got the first box of Moderna. And I was pretty excited because I wanted to see the package insert. I wanted to really read that and take it in and understand this, you know, what they had found in terms of effectiveness, and wanted more information on the animal studies, side effects, and all that. So imagine my surprise when this little folded up little thing, ah, it said: This space intentionally left blank. And I was like, oh, that's kind of odd. So I open it up. And I did not expect, I mean, what they were talking about was literally the entire, I mean, you've seen those package inserts and they unravel like a atlas. Both sides, empty. Completely blank. No information. That was shocking to me. And–
MORDECHAI SONES: What does that mean?
NICHOLE BELLAND: What's that? What did that mean?
MORDECHAI SONES: What does it mean?
NICHOLE BELLAND: For me, it meant I had no idea–
MORDECHAI SONES: Had you seen something like that before?
NICHOLE BELLAND: No. And I was like, OK, well they must have exemption because it's under an Emergency Use Authorization, I guess, because all of the shots are that way with their package insert. Ah, but I had never seen that before.
And I realized, I have absolutely no information as to what I put into someone's arm. I didn't know any information, no information about the safety with pregnancy. I had already had covid by the time these shots had come around so I wasn't going to get one based on my own innate immunity that I had acquired. And so I had a lot of questions. But at the same time, I had a whole bunch of professional organization and corporate guidance on what to say to patients. And there was a, like a notice to healthcare providers in giving this vaccine. [makes air quotes] Vaccine, personally don't call it that, but I was quite concerned. And it took me a long while to continue the research and find some answers because it wasn't very forthcoming, you really had to dig for the information. And it wasn't, it wasn't far longer, it wasn't, excuse me, it wasn't much longer after that when the first shipment had been brought in and the assisted livings and nursing homes in our communities were all vaccinated.
That brought concerns to me. I had patients that had been in an assisted living facility, we service their medications, and I had gone on, like, I think I had 4 or 5 days off, and I came back to find that 5 of these patients had passed away. And it was literally within a week of being, being vaccinated. That was, ah, it was difficult for me but I was removed just enough that I didn't have the actual– um— all I knew was these patients got it one day and a few days later they're dead. That's all I had. Could have been a coincidence, could have been a car accident, could have been you know a whole bunch of different things. But it put me on alert, of course. But it wasn't something that I felt I could make the strong decision that no, I can't give these, and no, they're not good for us. I mean, I couldn't do that still at this point.
So there are a few more deaths that happened in that the next couple weeks. I would say, I didn't, I feel confident in saying 12 patients died from this shot. I mean, that's just based on their timing. Um, and I suspect it was actually quite a bit more.
The— and then I started having patients come in with prescriptions, well, they had gotten their shot and they would bring in prescriptions for eloquist or zorelto, and they would tell me they had had a stroke, they were in the hospital, they'd had heart attacks. And this was a pretty common occurrence after the 65 plus group were being vaccinated. And it, and it, it was difficult for me to see this. And I'm thinking, this has got to be the shot. Well the primary providers weren't willing to make that leap. In fact they many times were, they'd say, on the contrary.
So then I was even more confused. [laughs] And so when people ask me, well you should have quit sooner or you should have, you know, didn't that tell you not to give it? Well, no. And I think, I think that as providers there's a few things that the general population doesn't understand some of the pressures that come along with some of these decisions of giving the shot or not.
So the first, a few of the hurdles, one, I was seeing this death, I was seeing vaccine injury. The patients would tell me what had happened to them. Some of them wound up in the nursing home and
rehab settings. And you know they'd share their experience and I'd say, do you think it was related to your shot? Oh no, my doctor says no. And that was a pretty standard answer.
MORDECHAI SONES: Yes.
NICHOLE BELLAND: And you know it didn't, that just confused me. So we move on down the road a little bit, we lower the age of people who can be vaccinated, and I'm started to see some of the same symptoms and unfortunately, heart attacks, clots, DVTs [deep vein thromboses] you know. I was seeing that. And it just came to a point where it was absolutely impossible to ignore.
So the approach that I used at first was, OK, I feel strongly that these are not a good idea, so I will continue to give these shots but I will be making it a specific, just a conscious effort to make sure these patients are getting informed consent. So I printed out all kinds of articles, um, I think there was a college surgical physicians that had a few different informed consent forms for the various shots. I certainly was trying to take advantage of that. And so when I was in the room one on one with these patients I would really try to help them understand about just the lack of information we have, the information I have, put it in a very negative light. Patients would ask me questions about it and I was, I was pretty dramatic about it because I really wanted them to understand. So I would take the— well, let's see! Let's look that up! And I would pull out this blank package insert. I said, you know, I can't answer that for you. Unfortunately, you're on your own on that. I got nothing. So some people were, were somewhat shocked by that. Others were like, huh, alright, well, give me my shot. [laughs] And at times I was able to convince people, you know, would you at least research this some more? If you really, really want it, come back tomorrow, you'll be first in line, I promise, but do a little bit more research and think about this.
Most of the time— I think, I probab — I'm hoping that I was able to convince maybe half those patients to not get it. However the other half had reached out to their primary providers and their specialists and that's when I started to see some, some backlash. They would come in, the patient would be upset with me for delaying their treatment, if you want to call it that, and their physicians had just basically said, absolutely not, you need to go march in there and demand the shot.
That is an incredibly difficult position to be in. I think that your, I think your physicians and pharmacists on the American Front Line Doctors, I think everybody would understand that that is a difficult position. The general population may not. But the physician-patient relationship is sacred. I don't want to interfere and be in the middle of that because the relationships I have with my patients are sacred. And, I mean, I'm really privileged to be in a small town where I have developed the respect and the trust, and they're my friends.
So I didn't know how to handle that. If you, know— that's still a million dollar question and I think for many out there in community phramacies, I guarantee you, if you're trying to say the right thing, if you're trying to get the message out there, or trying to persuade someone and tell them, you know, get more time, we're not in a hurry, take your time. Investigate this. Let's watch this play out a little bit. If you're in that boat and and you're trying to really help your patients in that way but then they come back with a mad physician and their attitude is changed toward you and they all of a sudden they don't trust you, um, do you give the shot or not? I don't know. That was, that was a difficult time because I couldn't sort out the morality, ethical pieces of it. Admittedly I was very confused.
Meanwhile I have coworkers, I have professional organizations, and I have my corporate people all pushing the shots to make me feel even more alone in what I saw and what I came away with after researching. I mean, I had already had a couple hundred hours researching this, into this therapy.
So ultimately what happened was I would get these complaints and they would go to the corporate office, and finally it was in June that a patient came in that, at that time they had lowered the age to 20, no, lowered the age to 18. Eighteen and older could get this shot. And a kid came in, I would have guessed him to be 22, 23. It was a Saturday and I had sent my tech home early because he was sick. But he came in and wanted the shot and I said, you know, I'm by myself right now so it would be a bit difficult but to be honest with you I've got a couple hundred hours of researching this and I'm not comfortable giving it to you. You can go across the street right now or down the road, there's four other pharmacies in town that I'm sure would be happy to give this to you right now, or you can come back on Tuesday for my other pharmacist. OK, he left, no problem.
On Sunday I came in and the store manager had told me that I had a complaint filed against me and sure enough, it said, Nichole, pharmacist, says she has a couple hundred hours into researching this and she would not give this shot. Well that complaint went pretty high up the food chain through the corporate office, and so I knew I would be getting a call on Monday. Which I did. So the call on Monday was from my boss and we basically, she said, give the shot or you're fired.
So on Tuesday I took a medical/ personal leave. Uh, I wasn't sure what else to do about it. I was gone for four months. And my leave was ending on the 15th of October and on the 14th I had come in to put my notice in. It had been suggested to me to wait to be fired, and I know a lot of people are getting that advice right now, and while I understand it, as long as I am on the sidelines and I'm still employed, I can't use my voice, I can't say anything about what I've seen, and I also felt like I couldn't go back to work and give these shots. So I felt I had no choice. I'm leaving because God knows what I know, He knows that I know this is poison. And even when people want it.
We had the conversation, my pastor and I, and I had asked him, I said, well, how do I, how do I deal with this issue? I mean, people coming in and they're demanding it. And he says, Nichole, you know, you know what you know. And I said, well yes, but they're demanding it. And then we started having this conversation about free will and everyone has free will and so you should, if they want it then give them an informed consent and let them have it. But that still didn't set right with me because God knows I know it's poison. So just because the patient doesn't know it's poison doesn't mean I'm excused. So I mean, truly, this has been very very emotional, ethical, spiritual, moral dilemma for me for months.
So on the 14th I went in there. I was disappointed to see how the pharmacy had declined in terms of customer service and whatnot and I was, I was mad that it had reached this point because as many in the professional realm of your viewers know, I didn't just quit my job. I pretty much walked away from my career. I am pretty certain I'm not going to get a job any time soon in a pharmacy. And yet I had done enough research into the term Rockefeller Medicine to understand that you know not everything has been forthright, and it hasn't been that way for quite some time. So I was prepared to walk away from my profession, sadly, I mean, after 9 years of effort and 250,000 dollars in blood, sweat and tears, but I think ultimately I made the right decision. And it's just, it's ironic that a little lady in my line with a crazy little flip phone took a video in that moment that was not staged.* And then it went viral. Ah, you know, I don't know what to say about that. [laughs] I guess all I'm going to say is I think God's using me for the greater good. That's what I hope and pray for.
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Date: 2023-03-29 12:11 am (UTC)https://www.rebelnews.com/public_works_canada_to_surrender_secret_pfizer_vaccine_contracts_for_committee_scrutiny
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Date: 2023-03-29 12:47 pm (UTC)Ron M
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Date: 2023-03-29 12:13 am (UTC)https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/fauci-discussed-chimeras-wuhan-research-collaborator-feb-2020-email
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Date: 2023-03-30 04:55 pm (UTC)Who among us has not found themselves accidentally stitching fragments from different viruses into a new creation?
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Date: 2023-03-29 12:15 am (UTC)https://www.zerohedge.com/political/contract-confirms-us-government-received-400-million-major-covid-19-vaccine-manufacturer
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Date: 2023-03-29 02:08 am (UTC)Oh, and there have been repeated attempts to put through posts about a certain Substack post which claims that the Covid virus was manufactured in a deliberate attempt to lower the IQ of the public. Um, folks, that's "a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other" -- and thus not appropriate for this forum. Thank you for keeping this venue on theme!
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Date: 2023-03-29 03:32 am (UTC)I should have known better.
I remember being a teenager and an enthusiastic volunteer for the Eugene McCarthy 'insurgent' presidential Peace campaign (in Wisconsin).
He did very well and had quite a head of steam then Bobby joined the race and we know how everything turned out.
A few short years ago I was listening to a university (progressive, leftist etc...) radio program and they played an interview with
one of McCarthy's national campaign managers. His description of the campaign sounded quite chaotic and something Hunter Thompson could have turned into a novella. He also said the campaign was 'flush with CIA operatives who had oodles of cash.'
I thought, 'WHAT?'
I've never gotten acclimated to the weirdness in everything and react naively even at my age.
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Date: 2023-03-29 02:12 am (UTC)Thanks for all the recommendations last week. Couldn’t have done it without you guys.
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Date: 2023-03-29 04:07 am (UTC)This is a kind of a shocking finding to me and I want to be fact checked on what I wrote below. I would like to be proven wrong.
In 2021, vaccination of infants massively decreased in Florida due to “vaccine hesitancy”. Along with decrease in childhood vaccinations, all cause infant mortality ALSO MASSIVELY DECREASED, in a perfect lockstep!
The changes are very significant and can be considered an unintended experiment.
Say what?
What I found is that in 2021, parents of newborns in Florida were much more “vaccine hesitant”, for reasons obvious to my readers, and therefore childhood vaccinations decreased from 93.4% previously to only 79.3% in 2021. During the same time, all cause infant mortality under 1 year of age in Florida also DECREASED by 8.93%.
Read the full article here:
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/florida-vaccine-hesitancy-reduced
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Date: 2023-03-29 07:27 pm (UTC)Vaccine 'studies' are a scam too btw. They don't test a vaccine against people who received no vaccine at all, only against people who received a different, more toxic vaccine. This supposedly proves how 'safe and effective' they are.
One good thing to come out of this is 'vaccine hesistancy' or as I call it, using the word 'No'.
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Date: 2023-03-29 07:17 am (UTC)I chatted with someone who worked there as I was waiting for someone having treatment. The person was definitely in the white middle class bracket. I was interested to hear her view of current affairs. She was pro vaccination and lots of hygienic habits such as insisting on people using sanitising alcohol gels. From her perspective it was people like her who take things seriously and do the right thing, she mentioned getting vaccinated in this. No apparent doubt about safety or effectiveness although she had covid about six weeks ago, not badly and has recovered well. I also overheard her talking to someone else about whether enough people bother to do covid tests now they have to pay for these themselves. The problem from her perspective is ignorant people who don't do what they are supposed to. Also, she thinks complaining is good. She thinks you should let it all out, it does more harm to bottle it up.
So I am relating this because it felt like excellent food for meditation. I'm interested in how we can have a public conversation that is constructive and allows people to consider the problems and compile policies which might be helpful. I was interested hearing that the motivation is the uprightness, the sense of social responsibility. This is the motive that was hammered hardest around here during the vaxx push -- "get vaccinated to protect grandma!". It led me to wonder if that sense of responsibility could be a ground for unity. It might smart a bit and cause discomfort in such a conversation if I begin to admit that for me, being responsible means examining scientific and medical claims myself, and thinking about whether the marketing and advertising makes sense. That we have a responsibility to protect the vulnerable by taking action against fraudulent claims and irresponsible marketing. But that kind of line of reasoning at least has some solid ground in common with the person I spoke to yesterday, whose motivation is doing the right thing and taking responsibility in public health matters. There is a common place we could potentially begin a conversation from.
I suppose I am belatedly catching up with that handout that was going around in the vaxx push, it was for nurses to address 'hesitant' patients, a kind of 'if they say this, reply with this' briefing. I don't seem to have saved a copy, I don't know if someone else has one or can find it and link. In all of the examples listed, about ten maybe? There were replies to patients that picked up the motivation of the patient and supplied the line that was most likely to produce compliance with injection. I suppose these were produced by the marketing arm of the jab companies, or public health gurus. I was going to say produced by people with no sense of ethics but I think it's more than that. I think the public health gurus were acting on the surmise of the national defence people who were afraid that this was the doomsday virus and were desperate enough to believe anything might help. I think a lot of what happened as many commentators have already said was based on acting from the hymn sheet of previously rehearsed biological warfare drills. They were convincing because the commentators who were slightly informed were scared of what was happening and genuinely believed that the only hope was to get everyone vaccinated to increase chances of survival. I remember talking to a civil servant about my worries about the nudging stuff being used to engineer compliance and her response was that the state is always engineering choices and why not? But to me, I want that to be a matter of public discussion. In what circumstances do we really think it's appropriate to patronise and compel people? perhaps I just lack whatever it is that makes people politicians.
I want to encourage a culture of truth telling, accountability, and appropriate legal processes, amongst a political class who actually have some scientific education rather than being composed of all the ones who stopped studying science as soon as they could -- age sixteen in the main stream of British education. I think it's really unfortunate that in those decisions it wasn't considered that the claims of the pharmaceutical companies are highly unreliable and somehow the possible costs of the adverse effects of the jabs got completely forgotten about. But I think this probably fell into the blind spot of decades where the only people who suffer adverse consequences from routine medications become heretics and crazy people who have to be denigrated and ignored.
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Date: 2023-03-29 03:57 pm (UTC)That's what I heard too. For example, if the patient responds to authority, say that it is medically necessary. If the patient responds to empathy, say it helps protect others. If the patient is vain, tell them they wouldn't want to lie in the hospital while others go on holiday. And so on.
That kind of thinking was leading in The Netherlands. According to Open Government requests, the project organization created for Corona had the anti-terrorism coordinator on top. This could explain the military-like nature of the response.
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Date: 2023-03-29 11:25 am (UTC)It is a long piece and interesting to read (I haven't yet read it all though). Interesting is that it connects the IgG2 --> IgG4 replacement with several pathologies that we are all too familiar with. From the summary:
"In conclusion, the immune tolerance mechanism induced by mRNA vaccines could
have at least 6 negative unintended consequences:
1) By ignoring the spike protein synthesized as a consequence of vaccination, the host
immune system becomes vulnerable to re-infection with the new Omicron subvariants,
allowing for free replication of the virus once a re-infection takes place. In this situation,
we propose that even these less pathogenic Omicron subvariants could cause significant
harm and even death in individuals with comorbidities and immuno-compromised.
2) mRNA and inactivated vaccines temporally impair interferon signaling [125,126],
causing immune suppression and leaving the individual in a vulnerable situation against
any other pathogen. In addition, this immune suppression could allow the re-activation
of latent viral, bacterial, or fungal infections, and might also allow uncontrolled growth of
cancer cells [127].
3) A tolerant immune system can allow SARS-CoV-2 persistence in the host and
promote the establishment of a chronic infection, similarly to that generated by the hepatitis
B virus (HBV), the human immune deficiency virus (HIV), and the hepatitis C virus
(HCV) [128].
4) The combined immune suppression (produced by SARS-CoV-2 infection and
further enhanced by vaccination) could explain a plethora of autoimmune conditions, cancers,
re-infections, and deaths temporally associated with both. It is conceivable that the
excess deaths reported in several highly COVID-19-vaccinated countries may be explained,
in part, by this combined immunosuppressive effect.
5) Repeated vaccination could also lead to auto-immunity: In 2009, the results of an
important study went largely unnoticed. Researchers discovered that in mice that are
otherwise not susceptible to spontaneous autoimmune disorders, repeated administration
of the antigen promotes systemic autoimmunity. The development
of CD4+ T cells that can induce autoantibodies (autoantibody-inducing CD4+ T
cells, or aiCD4+ T cells), which had their T cell receptors (TCR) modified, was
triggered by excessive stimulation of CD4+ T cells. The aiCD4+ T cell was generated
by new genetic TCR modification rather than a cross-reaction. The excessively
stimulated CD8+ T cells induced them to develop into cytotoxic T lymphocytes
(CTL) that are specific for an antigen. These CTLs were able to mature further
by antigen cross-presentation, so in that situation, they induced autoimmune
tissue damage resembling systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) [129]. According to
the self-organized criticality theory, when the immune system of the host is continually
overstimulated by antigen exposure at concentrations that are higher (see page 11) than
the immune system's self-organized criticality can tolerate, systemic autoimmunity inevitably
occurs [130].
It has been proposed that the amount and duration of the spike protein produced are
presumably affected by the higher mRNA concentrations in the mRNA-1273 vaccine (100
μg) compared to the BNT162b2 vaccine (30 μg) [94]. Thus, it is probable that the spike
protein produced in response to mRNA vaccination is too high and last too much time in
the body. That overwhelms the capacity of the immune system, thus leading to autoimmunity
[129,130]. Indeed, several investigations have found that COVID-19 immunization
is associated with the development of autoimmune responses [131-148].
6) Increased IgG4 levels induced by repeated vaccination can lead to autoimmune
myocarditis: It has been discovered that IgG4 antibodies can also cause an autoimmune
reaction by impeding the immune system`s ability to be suppressed by regulatory T cells
[86]. Patients using immune checkpoint inhibitors alone or in combination have been
linked to occurrences of acute myocarditis [87-90], sometimes with lethal consequences
[91]. As anti-PD-1 antibodies are class IgG4, and these antibodies are also induced by repeated
vaccination, it is plausible to suggest that excessive vaccination is associated with
the occurrence of an increased number of myocarditis cases and sudden cardiac deaths.
Finally, these negative outcomes are not expected to affect all people who have received
these mRNA vaccines. Individuals with genetic susceptibility, immune deficiencies,
and co-morbidities probably would be the most likely to be affected. However, this
gives rise to a disturbing paradox: if people who are the most affected by the COVID-19
disease (the elderly, diabetics, hypertensive, and immunocompromised people like those
with HIV) are also more susceptible to suffering the negative effects of mRNA vaccines,
is it then justified to booster them? As Omicron subvariants have been demonstrated to
be less pathogenic, and mRNA vaccines do not protect against re-infection, clinicians
should be aware of the possible detrimental effects on the immune system by administering
boosters."
I'm curious what others think of this. Can so many pathologies associated with the vaxx get pinned onto the IgG4 increase?
PS It might be worthwile to save a copy of the piece before it gets "retracted".
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Date: 2023-03-29 12:44 pm (UTC)In the Netherlands, excess mortality rose from around par (0%) to over 10% in week 10 and 11 (start March 6th). This indicates that another wave of excess mortality is starting. This comes at the heels of the last wave Corona virus that started on Jan 23th and peaked on March 7th. This confirms the usual pattern where excess mortality rises and falls with the waves of the Corona virus with a time lag of a few weeks. Apparently the timelag for the variant of the last wave was a bit more than usual, but it seems that excess mortality is now responding to the increased virus prevalence in Feb.
A new development is that a new wave already started on March 15th. The descending part of the previous wave was only halfway at that date, but since then the amount of virus in the sewage has been rising. It remains to be seen if this is due to the new variant from India that is rumoured to be more virulent. It happened only twice before that a new wave was already rising while the previous hadn’t completed its cycle. This was when Omicron replaced Delta and when the first Omicron variant was replaced by the second Omicron variant.
The English data on the causes of mortality are only available till Feb 24th. England had no excess mortality from late January till that moment, just as the Netherlands. Still there is excess in the category “at home” and in the category liver diseases. This suggests that more than expected people died suddenly, and would be congruent with the hypothesis that excess mortality is caused by damage done by spike protein (please note that we would expect a significant mortality deficit if everything was fine, so mortality being on par with the expectation based on the statistical model is in fact not so good as it sounds.)
So the trends that I’ve reported here since at least last December are continuing. I’m not sure if it is helpful to repeat myself, but they are:
- Excess mortality moves in waves
- The waves follow (usually with a few weeks time lag) the waves in the prevalence of the Corona virus as measured by sewage data
- The English data show excess mortality in categories that are associated with spike damage, and no excess mortality in categories not associated with spike damage (cancer being the only exception)
- Thus it still looks like excess mortality is mainly caused by cumulative spike exposure
PS The big question is how the vaxxed and unvaxxed fare compared to each other. Unfortunately comparative data are treated by the governments and agencies with a secrecy on par with Biden’s nuclear codes. I can only infer something by comparing high vaxxed and low vaxxed countries that are otherwise as similar as possible. In the EU Portugal (highest vaxxed) and Bulgaria (lowest) are interesting. Here I also see the same pattern that I already mentioned before: the unvaxxed countries had higher excess mortality, but since spring 2022 the tables are turned. In early February Portugal was around 0% while Bulgaria had a mortality *deficit* of 19%. The deficit is of course the “pull forward effect”: after the most vulnerable members of the tribe have died, one would expect a period of lower mortality. So far there has only been significant pull forward effects in low-vaxxed countries but non in high vaxxed countries. This suggests that after initial “success” we are now still in the territory of negative vaxx effectiveness. Again, this has all been said before, but it might be helpful to report that the latest data are still in line with the earlier findings and conclusions.
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Date: 2023-03-29 07:25 pm (UTC)This week's UK all cause deaths are up to 9.3% above the average after falling back to near zero for a few weeks:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending17march2023
I'd say there's something to your theory and probably going to become more so, especially when we join it to your other post. Add in any immune evasion changes to the prevailing virus for a triple linked feedbacking effect. :-/
(For info, UK daily infection totals starting to decrease slowly again but all happening with the last increase in infections affecting the elderly in particular. Less spike in the sense of no big waves of infection but possibly more spike for some in the sense of more longer lasting chronic infections for a significant, predominantly older, minority - number 3 in your last post.)
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Date: 2023-03-29 02:46 pm (UTC)If I missed anybody on the full list, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or at the prayer list page.
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This week I would like to bring special attention to a few prayer requests.
2 year old ES, who was having upwards of 60+ seizures a day, had brain surgery last Tuesday; that he be blessed, protected, and healed completely.
John (Mr. Beekeeper, Beekeeper in Vermont's husband) had quadruple bypass surgery on 3/27; that he be blessed, protected, and healed to the utmost that is possible.
Luke Dodson's friend B, who is undergoing treatment for breast cancer, and is still in serious condition though she's already had surgery; for blessing, protection, healing, and a full return to health.
Lp9's request on behalf of their hometown, East Palestine Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people and all living beings in the area. The details coming out are still caught in the fog of war (Lp9 gives a short update here, and says "things are a bit... murky"), and various claims of catastrophe and non-catastrophe are flying about, but the reasonable possibility seems to exist that this is an environmental disaster on par with the worst America has ever seen. At any rate, it is clearly having a devastating impact on the local area, and prayers are certainly warranted.
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If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
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Date: 2023-03-29 03:09 pm (UTC)Hi's big project that they have worked on for 3 years will go to another level or die completely this Friday. They request prayer in support of it, and to Hi. May what is best for Hi be what comes to pass.
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Date: 2023-03-29 04:37 pm (UTC)1: Dr. Eric Payne – Pediatric Neurologist
2: Rodney Palmer – Former CBC Investigative Journalist
3: Irvin Studin – Expert in Constitutional Law
4: Deanna McLeod – Medical Researcher
5: Michael Alexander – Toronto Lawyer
6: Jay McCurdy – Elementary School teacher
7: Cindy Campbell – Nursing Academic
8: Catherine Swift – National President of Canadian Small Business Manufacturers
9: Laura Jeffrey – Ontario Mortician
10: Bruce Pardy – Lawyer
11: Greg Hill – Pilot and ex Captain with Air Canada
12: Dr. Robert Malone (I think we all know who he is)
13: Dr. Mark Trozzi – Outspoken critic of Covid policies in Canada
Those who want to watch the proceedings live can do so here: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/nci-live/
Also, the testimony from the three days of hearings at Truro are now becoming available at the individual testimony level on Rumble (channel: NationalCitizensInquiryCA). Selected testimony clips are also accessible on the main inquiry website: https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/testimony-clips/
Once Toronto is completed, the commission moves on to Winnipeg, where hearings will be held from April 13-15. It already has some ‘big guns’ for expert witnesses, including Jessica Rose (expert on the VAERS data), Jay Bhattacharya (Professor of Medicine at Stanford) and Jeffrey Tucker (Founder of the Brownstone Institute). This inquiry rocks!
Freedom! Liberté!
Ron M
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Date: 2023-03-29 05:44 pm (UTC)They never called. Did they lose my number? (That’s certainly something I might do.). Did the son submit? Did he and his dad persuade Mom to wait and watch the untested vax for a while?
I feel bad for Mom, too. She was SO angry that I suspect she knew her son was in the right but felt forced to go ahead anyway. Maybe if the whole household wasn’t vaxed, she’d lose all her customers, or all her friends—social life and conformity are critically important to many people these days. Even so, you don’t get that angry unless you know in your heart the other party’s right, but feel you can’t afford to admit it. I think about both of them from time to time, and hope they got through the Covid Panic all right.
—Princess Cutekitten
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Date: 2023-03-29 11:59 pm (UTC)Beecuzzzz... then everyone would look at the hunk of steaming shale that sits between the pretty slices of buttered toast.
(Let's talk about Ukraine!)
Pass the ketchup, eat up folks, nothing to see here.
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Date: 2023-03-29 09:35 pm (UTC)James says it's too top down, not bottom up. Agree. Backing off.. but still happy because thinking right.,, not feeling trapped if I can keep it up...
It'll happen organically like Mrs Krieger mentioned. Whew...
Anyhow I was thinking of my logo offering for the UNGOVERNABLE beacon to find each other, but regarding things in the real, after reading article below, NO LOGO NEEDED. The more you are jarring to the eye and all senses that want grey safeness... they are painting bright colored victorians in the mission dark grey with rust colored doors...
We will find each other.
I'm pretending I'm Ed Dowd with tits and attitude but none of those fancy pants graphs to tell you...
ITS GOIN DOWN
So go opposite of EVERYTHING this loooooong article [editors are forgotten angels of a bygone era when they wore pant suits on planes], and I'm feeling good about my earlier intuitive commitment MORE FLUORESCENCE.
So skim the below for your opposite upside down world ideas how to scare the narcoleptic goats into panicking and going rigid before they helplessly faint in emotioal overload and we may find each other.
This is Rudolph's glaring blue note shine that made their eyes turn to confused scared pissed off DONT BLOW MY MIND WEAR BAGS OF LEAD ON YOUR ANKLES stars.
The animators secreted this firmly in Gen X childhood training...
I have my real life lunchbox art themes laid out before me!
And daring super freaks out for the adventure of their lives have their mission if they skim the below and go opposite in one's own specifics.
This is how you zag.
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Erika
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The age of average / Alex morrell:
https://www.alexmurrell.co.uk/articles/the-age-of-average
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Date: 2023-03-30 03:52 pm (UTC)An interesting read for sure, but I've found it quite depressing
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Date: 2023-03-30 10:17 am (UTC)The headline is 'Young women have 3.5x the risk of death from heart issues after jab'.
https://twitter.com/BohemianAtmosp1/status/1641045900549038082
The presenter is lying when she said she was against jabs for the young as these tweets prove. She was scouting for jab centres so her daughter could go on holiday. There is major backtracking and lying going on. Piers Morgan is another one who does this.
JHB: I'm not backtracking. I made clear in the interview that I welcomed the jab for elderly and still do, but not for the young. I always said not kids. I've said many that we need proper investigation. That said, there are still plenty of dumb conspiracy theories around.
Her tweets in August 2021
https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1422442159056244748
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Date: 2023-03-30 04:49 pm (UTC)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11915563/World-Health-Organization-says-healthy-kids-teens-dont-need-Covid-vaccinations.html
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Date: 2023-03-30 06:33 pm (UTC)‘In a landmark case with global ramifications, filed the high court of Pretoria, South Africa, International scientists & leading medical professionals have demanded urgent judicial review of Pfizer’s mRNA covid vaccine products which are argued to be unsafe and ineffective’
https://theprint.in/world/british-indian-medic-backs-legal-review-of-covid-vaccine-in-south-africa-high-court-2/1482253/?amp
https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1641322215143530497
My view is Pfizer has factored in the billions in compensation they will have to pay already. They have more than enough money to pay for it so they don't really care.
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Date: 2023-03-31 01:31 am (UTC)There were also huge riots in Israel last week - hundreds of thousands in the streets. They weren't related to covid, but I can't help but think the past did affect it. They had insane covid restrictions and mandated four shots total I believe (with full vax passes for shopping for groceries in effect).
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Date: 2023-03-30 10:04 pm (UTC)https://nitter.net/_/status/1641455670074703874