Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: good regulations?

[dendroica]

The trouble is that many people believe that homeopathic medicine *is* snake oil, and so should be subject to well-intentioned regulations.

I used to be in the "we need good regulations" camp. Now I would say I'm more in favor of "we need no regulations". There would still, of course, be more general laws regarding fraud and wrongful death, and anyone selling something deadly or misrepresenting what is in their product could still be taken down following a criminal trial. Beyond that, I would be in favor of a "de-anonymization" of medicine and restoration of community ties, such that snake-oil salesmen get run out of town if their products cause harm or don't work.

Re: good regulations?

[(Anonymous)]

All right, point taken, Usual laws against fraud and harmful food additives can transition us to a more village-style medical support and care ‘system’ or ‘network; even in urban areas.

What is the deanomynization factor you mention? Does that mean letting medical providers follow their patients from cradle to grave as in the old days? Or something else?

Re: good regulations?

[dendroica]

I'm thinking more along the lines of informal networks in which people find doctors by asking for recommendations among friends, colleagues, family, church groups, etc. The current system in which patients are basically randomly assigned to doctors (and online reviews are easily gamed by fraud/bots/paid reviewers) relies on the regulatory system to ensure that bad doctors and bad products get removed. (And, as we have seen with mRNA, the regulatory system can easily be captured by fraud on the largest scales.)

If we can return to a community structure in which people talk among themselves about what actually works and what doesn't, then the good doctors should be inundated with calls and the bad doctors should find themselves out of work.