Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! People keep framing this issue as a false binary: either you think that everything labelled "vaccine" must be good or you think that everything labelled "vaccine" must be bad. Nonsense. But rhetorically useful nonsense nonetheless.

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[drakonus]

I always try to specify “this vaccine.”

As in “I don’t have a problem with all vaccines. I have a problem with this (these/mRNA) vaccine(s).”

I’m just utterly astonished by the people who can’t and won’t admit that this was an experiment. And experiments fail. All the time. Matter of fact that’s why we conduct experiments. You know to see what works and what doesn’t.
Baffling.

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[(Anonymous)]

It's also astonishing to me - and has been for many years - that people can't seem to grasp that some vaccines may be useful for in some situations, but that vaccines, like almost every other medical product, have been over-sold, and that medical recommendations are often influenced by things other than "science." Suggest that things like antibiotics, c-sections, heart medications, pain management drugs, you name it, can be valuable, but that they are also over-used or over-prescribed for all sorts of wrong reasons, and people will nod sagely, and probably share stories of their own or others' experiences with just such over-use and over-prescription, and the negative experiences that resulted. But suggests the same thing about vaccines? OMG - ANTIVAXXER MORON!