Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 198

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Top FDA Official Discloses She Never Received COVID-19 Vaccine

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/top-fda-official-discloses-she-never-received-covid-19-vaccine

i think a whole lot of them didnt take it..

[(Anonymous)]

World Health Organization Looks Ahead to Life Without US

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/world-health-org-united-states-china/2025/05/19/id/1211457/

i wish canada would leave the WHO too

[(Anonymous)]

only after US-Canada war :)

[(Anonymous)]

Regeneron to buy bankrupt 23andMe, vows ethical use of customer DNA data

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/regeneron-to-buy-bankrupt-23andme-vows-ethical-use-of-customer-dna-data/ar-AA1F4vOX

i am sure we can trust them..
lol

[(Anonymous)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Pharmaceuticals

"the U.S. government would fund 80% of the costs for Regeneron to develop and manufacture antibody-based medications, which subsequently, in 2020, included their COVID-19 treatments"

I'm not laughing.

[(Anonymous)]

Dilbert Creator Scott Adams Announces He Has Aggressive Prostate Cancer That Spread to His Bones

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/dilbert-creator-scott-adams-announces-he-has-aggressive/

and here is a post that has a clip from scott:

“The anti-vaxxers were right. They’re the smartest and happiest people…and they’re still alive. The thing they’re not worrying about is what I have to worry about…this vaccine 5 years from now. You should take victory and I’ll take defeat…”

https://x.com/liz_churchill10/status/1924578085443187024#m

i think he originally posted this a long time ago but it is going around now.

[nightwatchwaits]

I remember! Life is inherently tragic, but maybe also full of joy?

appreciation and update

[(Anonymous)]

Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to convey appreciation for this group and the support and ideas you all have provided. This space has helped me to uncover the root causes of my health issues which may or may not specifically be related to covid, but this time period seems to have brought various symptoms to the surface.

I struggled for years to try to understand what all my symptoms meant as they started to develop around 2021. Initially I had unexplained peripheral vision deficits, then bloodwork showed elevated thyroid antibodies, and thus a diagnosis of Hashimoto's, and then further bloodwork showed reactivated Epstein Barr virus. I was soon aware that I had inflammation everywhere in my body but struggled to find the source.

I had started cleaning up my diet in 2021 by decreasing sugar, decreasing processed foods, eliminating wheat; but this was not enough to improve things and I noticed food sensitivity only seemed to be increasing. With continued mild but unclear symptoms of throat soreness and vision weirdness, plus other symptoms I was ignoring (pain along sternum, pain after eating raw veggies, pain along lower ribs and sternum that suggested GERD, I finally realized the source of inflammation was my GI system. In may case, I believe I ignored this long enough that it developed into Barretts esophagus, although I diagnosed myself so I could be wrong. Finally, this past September I started a gut healing diet, GAPS, to try to completely heal the inflammation. And I am happy to report that it's working! My bloodwork now shows near normal thyroid antibodies, pain in my throat, chest and back is gone, and my vision is still not normal, but it is (very slowly) improving.

I mention this because I wonder if gut inflammation is perhaps more widespread among people than I had realized, and symptoms are so common they become normalized. And perhaps others can benefit from addressing it. Right now I'm still on a restricted diet as my body is still reactive to things which promote inflammation, so no raw veggies, citrus, no grains, and limited starchy foods. I am focusing on homemade meat/bone broth, meats with homemade kimchi, homemade kefir, fruit smoothies with kefir or coconut milk, maple syrup for sweetener, eggs and cooked veggies, and no processed foods. I'll slowly add things in but I notice this seems to take a while. The GAPS diet guideline suggests healing could take 2 years. I can feel that it takes that long.

Tamar

Re: appreciation and update

[(Anonymous)]

I was never sure how all this related to covid, but I had strange symptoms in 2020 when I first got covid: lightheaded, low bp, fainted, headache. All I can think now is that perhaps having such a poor nutritional state and unhealthy gut biome contributed to post viral worsening of health.
-t

[(Anonymous)]

A huge covid wave started in east asia (Singapore, HK, China, Thailand).

https://www.nationthailand.com/health-wellness/40050177

"New Covid-19 wave grips Hong Kong, Singapore, China, Thailand
MONDAY, MAY 19, 2025

Covid-19 has quietly re-emerged as a growing concern in parts of Asia, notably Hong Kong, Singapore, China and Thailand, with a sharp rise in infections and severe cases.
According to Thansettakij, the Covid situation in Hong Kong is once again under close scrutiny. The Centre for Health Protection reported that the rate of positive results in respiratory samples has reached its highest level in over a year.

In the week ending May 3, there were 31 severe cases reported—a 12-month peak. Additionally, wastewater surveillance has revealed a marked increase in viral concentration, indicating that community transmission is expanding.

Beyond the healthcare system, the entertainment industry has also felt the impact of this new wave. Prominent Hong Kong singer Eason Chan cancelled his concert in Taiwan after contracting Covid-19, further raising public awareness of the lingering risks and the ongoing importance of maintaining health precautions.

In Singapore, the Ministry of Health revealed that Covid-19 cases in the week ending May 3 rose by 28%, reaching approximately 14,200. Hospital admissions due to the virus also increased by about 30%.

Notably, this marks the first time in nearly a year that the Singaporean government has released official figures in this manner—an action typically reserved for situations considered particularly concerning."

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Geert vanden Bossche says in new interview that the health authorities will be caught by surprise.

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yoKMopqRMdJQ

[stubborn_ass]

Seems like every other week, the SG ministry of health will start pushing ads on TV / mass media that unless you are really sick, please avoid the Accidents and Emergency wards at the various public hospitals.

"Notably, this marks the first time in nearly a year that the Singaporean government has released official figures in this manner—an action typically reserved for situations considered particularly concerning."

How, when no one is really testing for covid now? They're literally pulling numbers/cases out of their asses. Yes, a lot of people are sick... but it's from their immune dysfunction after taking the shots.

At least to me, it's pretty obvious that it's a coordinated media onslaught to generate some fear and hysteria. Bill Gates visited SG last week, and the govt announced the mandatory vex law - and people made huge hoo haa about it. In reality, the law was quietly passed in 2023... yet its existence only became known last week?

Based on the 'hypothesis', they've just started up another feeding frenzy , but thankfully each time it's much less reduced in actual effects.

The reality is that immune dysfunction is showing up everywhere. Recently we had the national schools cross country, and one of the top female competitors was missing. I enquired and learnt that she had dengue and needed to be hospitalized. I did a quick poll of the students massed around me - who here had dengue before.. and a number of teenagers raised their hands.. and no on had to go to the hospital pre-covid. That was definitely my impression, that dengue was most dangerous for older folks - yet if you do a google search, the first page of search results tell us now tht dengue is equally dangerous to both young and old people. I don't think this is a mandela effect, as I've seen too many instances of the system changing the goalposts to start covering its ass in the past few years over medical stuff... confirmed with a couple of other friends that our previous impression of younger folks getting dengue seldom resulted in a hospital stay. It's still not fun then, but just have to tough through it.

I talked to a number of the top runners who didn't do as well as expected, and they pretty much had lingering injuries and stress fractures which didn't heal (obviously blood flow impacted by microclots), and also long-lasting illnesses which took them out for at least a week or two etc. You're building up to likely your biggest race of the year, so precautions would have been taken by the coaches to make sure everyone was ready to race.... so it is what it is.

Fertility damage

[(Anonymous)]

I'm struggling to get my head round what impact the emerging evidence of fertility damage stuff from the covid jabs will look like. Has anyone here read the papers and thought it through?
So far I have seen the preprint with the czech population study discussed here https://peterhalligan.substack.com/p/czech-data-on-birth-rates-by-vaxx
Link to paper https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202504.2487/v1
And there's a rat study showing damage to egg follicles as well https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/13/4/345
I know it was a worry what effect as I'd seen the stuff going round from a study done on localisation of the mrna product which showed it was going into was it mice? It was going into the mice gonads. I don't have a link to that but I thought at the time it was shocking even to consider approving a medicine that localised to the gonads for a whole population as I thought that was never previously allowed. Does someone else have that study saved? I think the story was it was asked for by the japanese govt then leaked?
Also heard from female friends of post jab changes in menses.
I am guessing that mostly we just don't know yet as it's been a cascade of catastrophes but it's reached the point where two scientific papers have emerged, the ones I linked above, there maybe more. There might be an actuary or similar out there who has started number crunching?
Tangerie Bulbous Hummingbird

Re: Fertility damage

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have the Japanese data at hand, but I imagine a search for "Byram Bridle" on some of the less censored search engines (Yandex or search.brave.com for instance) will lead you to it. He was the Canadian who bothered to read the actual data that Japan had pried from Pfizer's grasp. As far as I know he was the first to warn about it.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/japanese-biodistribution-study-that

is a summary.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

[(Anonymous)]

New GP drive to find undiagnosed infected blood scandal victims

If identified as someone who received a blood transfusion, patients will be able to order a discreet, self-testing Hepatitis C kit to complete at home.

https://news.sky.com/story/new-gp-drive-to-find-undiagnosed-infected-blood-scandal-victims-13370890

i wonder how safe any of the blood supply really is..

[revert2mean]

Well in Australia, it's safer than you might think. I had an un-treated blood transfusion in 1982. Yes, that's 1982, not a typo. A few years later AIDS was discovered, and some people who had those pre-mid-80s blood transfusions got sick and died, mainly haemophiliacs who used blood products made from many individuals' blood all the time. I had one transfusion once. So, naturally, if ever I saw a doctor they would always start going on about how I'd soon get sick and die. Still, I lived on. I had my kids in the 90s, still no problems AIDS-wise. The doctors continued predicting my imminent demise from AIDS. On I survived into the 2000s. Eventually I asked wouldn't I get sick and die at some point if that blood had been contaminated in 1982? No answer. Heading into my third decade of threatened AIDS-death at that point. And last year, in 2024, 42 years after my unscreened blood transfusion, the Australian government said they are willing to let me donate blood.

I will not be donating blood. They apparently did fine without it for 42 years, they can continue that way. But it shows how many restrictions there are on blood donors here.

[k_a_nitz]

I came across a non-NZ newspaper article (Australian edition of The Spectator) that is posting the truth about what many NZers think of Jacinda Ardern, for anyone who is interested - https://www.spectator.com.au/2025/04/jacinda-ardern-and-the-empty-politics-of-kindness/

[(Anonymous)]

That's a book I would happily burn to a crisp. lol

Thank you

[(Anonymous)]

Week 198

Thank you, JMG, and thank you, forumistas.

As these weeks roll by I only realize the moreso what an unholy catastrophe these recent years have been. Not that it's been all bad. For example, in my quest to avoid doctors and hospitals I've learned a lot about herbal and other remedies— and I am glad to have acquired this knowledge. And so on.

In my world socializing is still not back to pre-covid rhythms, but almost— I would say 90%. Last week I had a flurry of get-togethers— met some new people, saw some old friends I hadn't seen in years. I'm finding that things with other people seem normal until certain (cough cough) subjects come up, then I realize with a sinking feeling, no, they are over there, and I am over here, and in between us stretches a very broad and very dark abyss. They tell me horror stories about their health, and their parents' health and their kids' health. All problems that started in 2021-2022.

Cetiosaurus

[(Anonymous)]

“WHO Pandemic Treaty Passed: Global Health Power Grab?”

https://dailyclout.io/who-pandemic-treaty-passed-global-health-power-grab/

this does not look good..

[(Anonymous)]

FDA plans to restrict annual COVID-19 shots to over-65s, officials say

https://nypost.com/2025/05/20/us-news/new-trump-vaccine-policy-limits-access-to-covid-shots/

how many ppl will protest this i wonder..

[(Anonymous)]

BREAKING: Justice Department Opens Criminal Investigation Into Andrew Cuomo

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/breaking-justice-department-opens-criminal-investigation-andrew-cuomo/

good

Obfuscating and gaslighting MSM

[stubborn_ass]

Per my other comment in this thread about how search results for dengue affects on younger people have been algo-ed to their satisfaction, I want to give an example that just crop up into my YT feed and the scale of the damage which they are not directly addressing, just skirting around the issues as it's become too big to ignore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7UkhEtCNg4

Number of heart attacks in Singapore continues to rise - the 'newscaster' starts off by mentioning that heart atacks continue to rise, a worrying trend of about 12K heart attacks a year vs 8000 a decade ago. A short while later, we get this note on the screen: [ Number of heart attacks in rose to 12,403 in 2021, up from 8,014 in 2011. ]

Another newscaster then mentions that cardiologists expect 482 per 100,000 residents to have heart attacks this year... without mentioning the expected total number. Say the population is 6mil, that is 482 X 60 = 28,920 heart attacks this year. And they project the number to be triple that by 2050 (I wouldn't trust their projection that far out, but it's a sign that they know the heart damage from the shots has been extensive).

Even when they use misleading goalposts (2021 to start comparison with a decade ago)... once we look at the actual numbers, there is nothing normal about such a huge rise in heart attacks. We don't even know how many have pericarditis and myocarditis etc that aren't ostensibly classified as heart attacks yet.

That's why I ignore MSM when they run headlines about another new covid wave, illness etc etc... heck, they're pointedly ignoring the huge number of people that are literally dropping dead or dying right now, and still gaslighting about what's reall going on.

Re: Obfuscating and gaslighting MSM

[methylethyl]

What I'm hearing is that the post-shot rise in kidney failure dwarfs the rise in heart problems. Is Singapore seeing that?

[(Anonymous)]

Hi Covidissidents,

a request for info. I've seen a branching evolutionary diagram for the strains of the rona a few times, left to right, starting with OG to alpha, gamma, delta and swiftly to a thicket of different strains as it coronoviruses away, doubtless aided by the witless public health response. Does anyone have any links to such a diagram? I thought I had it bookmarked but can't find anything.

Thanks!

[temporaryreality]

Check the ethical skeptic’s site for that graph in his rolling-Covid post.

[(Anonymous)]

Biden officials knew about potential COVID-19 vaccine risks — and took steps to downplay them, scathing Senate report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/biden-officials-knew-about-downplayed-risks-from-covid-19-vaccines-senate-report-claims/ar-AA1FdapO

well it all seems to be coming out.

will anyone be held accountable, is the question.

[weilong]

will anyone be held accountable, is the question.

The answer is "no." Just a guess. I sincerely wish the answer could be yes.
More broadly, there are a lot of crimes from the last several years that need to be prosecuted - ranging all the way up to treason. Trump has been in office for four months, and so far nobody's been arrested.

PMC Management Trend

[(Anonymous)]

An interesting article came across my news feed today. It is from Forbes and is promoting Mel Robbins for her book "The Let Them Theory". Now I have never heard of either Mel nor her previous books but this is a standard article used to promote the next it book for management or consumption by the PMC class of people. (Even endorsed by Oprah) It feels like the lean in or who moved the cheese kind. I don't plan on reading this or recommending it but a couple points in the article I think could point to an interesting related trend.

"The book took shape during the pandemic, as Robbins began to examine long-entrenched habits of overexplaining, overfunctioning, and absorbing what didn’t belong to her."

“I’ve been the overbearing mom. The jealous friend. The fixer,” she said. “This book is about what happens when you finally stop trying to be all of those things.”

“You’re not letting people off the hook,” explains Robbins. “You’re letting yourself off the hook. You stop trying to fix, manage, prove. And you start protecting your peace.”

To me this reads like maybe, just maybe, some people in this group could be realizing the harm that trying to make everyone else do the jab dance might have had on their actual social/cultural control. I am sure it still reads like how my doctor dismissed my concerns with the the jab with a "Well you do you boo" and the undertones of dismissal but quite frankly if they would all just leave me and my family alone I think we could live just fine in this world together.

Re: PMC Management Trend

[michele7]

I read this book and have listened to a few Mel Robbins' podcasts. Basically the Let Them Theory is about giving up controlling everyone and everything and making peace with others decisions AND how to change yourself. I think Mel Robbins would agree with your statement of "just leave me and my family alone". :-)

CDC Nearly Warned People With Post-Vaccination Myocarditis Not to Play Sports, Document Shows

[(Anonymous)]

From an article on Epoch Times today:
"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention planned to recommend that people who suffered heart inflammation following COVID-19 vaccination not engage in rigorous activity for months, according to a newly disclosed document."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/cdc-nearly-warned-people-with-post-vaccination-myocarditis-not-to-play-sports-document-shows-5861128

[(Anonymous)]

NIH Director Questions Agency’s Role in COVID-19 Origins, Sparks Mass Employee Walkout

https://amgreatness.com/2025/05/21/nih-director-questions-agencys-role-in-covid-19-origins-sparks-mass-employee-walkout/

this is what we are dealing with; they dont want to find out anything about it at all..

[(Anonymous)]

Moderna pulls application for COVID-flu combination shot

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/moderna-withdraws-application-covid-flu-combination-vaccine-2025-05-21/

i wonder how many of these shots they are trying to put in applications for.. probably tons..

[(Anonymous)]

COVID Vaccine “Safe and Effective” Narrative Collapses on Camera

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/covid-vaccine-safe-effective-narrative-collapses-camera/

from senator ron johnson's hearing

mRna as AI?

[charlieobert]

I wonder if it makes sense to view the mRna technology as a form of chemical AI introduced into the body. I mean artificial intelligence in a broad sense, not in the narrow LLM sense.

I think that is more than just an analogy.

Re: mRna as AI?

[tritumi]

In the broad sense, your point is perfectly valid. Given that mRNA tech itself is problematic it functions as a filtering system to impose eugenics upon the species. This is lkely both targeted and randomized. It is targeted insofar as there is a population for whom mRNA components are predictably deadly in near and midterm durations. It is randomized insofar as these same deadly components create the mortal or debilitating conditions in unpredictable ways.

Consequently, the species is force-adapted to the tech and those who cannot adapt are filtered out, eliminated over time.

mRNA is only the package of course. The contents introduce a further complication which, as with the spike protein and other aspects of the jab, have force adaption epigenetic principles embedded with accompanying disagreeable outcomes, either intended or not.

And, needless to say, there is interaction between the metabolic transformations induced by the package and the contents to initiate a third sort of species altering dynamic.

All in all, we are off to the future.

[(Anonymous)]

i just saw this so i thought i would share it:

Scott Adams just mentioned President Trump took time to call him TWICE recently upon hearing about Scott's cancer.

Scott didn't recognize the # and let the FLORIDA call go to voicemail.

Later, checking it he heard "This is your FAVORITE PRESIDENT..."

Trump called to hear how GREAT SCOTT was doing!

He told Scott he could reach him at that number.

Scott was touched but decided not to call back.

TRUMP CALLED BACK THAT AFTERNOON!

They had a nice, private conversation.

youtube.com/watch?v=aDYc_Y15…

https://x.com/THEDuaneCates/status/1925557074890485855#m

off-guardian update

[bluemoose]

For those still following along, something to add to your link folder.

https://off-guardian.org/2023/03/24/40-facts-you-need-to-know-the-real-story-of-covid/

Robert Malone Narrative Control

[dabilahro]

Excellent timeline of Robert Malone's completely inorganic appearance and network relating to the COVID narrative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkrKVU-Irfc&t=2s&ab_channel=HousatonicLive2

Starting with a paper on antibody dependent enhancement in 2019.

The straight up lies of the heroes who have pushed themselves in front of people seeking alternative voices during COVID is troubling. It seems like the best way to get ahead was to show you could excel on podcasts and posting AI generated articles.

Re: Robert Malone Narrative Control

[drhooves]

Unfortunately, the background noise of the modern day media methods creates a lot of noise, and sifting through it all requires time and concentration - bandwidth many do not have to expend.

Who do you believe? What "facts" do you believe? Personally, I'm always skeptical of the people who get promoted in their popularity, without the corresponding expertise, credentials or experience to warrant their position.

I favor the internet "celebrities" on the fringes, like our host.

As for Malone, I haven't followed him closely enough and I don't have enough medical knowledge to judge his expertise, but I've seen some criticism from others about his agenda and which side he's on.....