Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86
Mar. 28th, 2023 02:32 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2023-03-31 06:47 am (UTC)Interesting, thanks for sharing. The other MP who is there, and honors Christopher Chope with an interruption, is Andrew Bridgen. He called for the suspension of the jabs in January. The Convervative party quickly suspended Andrew Bridgen for anti-semitism over this remark:
It is courageous to speak out. They must be worse off for doing this. Glad to hear both of them.
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Date: 2023-03-31 06:35 pm (UTC)Nukin Futz
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Date: 2023-03-31 10:26 pm (UTC)Speaking of shape-shifting entities….quick and dirty figures on the number of war casualties (deaths+ wounded+post-war epidemic) show about 33 and a third million per year btwn ‘39 and ‘45.
Anyone seen pointers towards rough estimates of number of deaths and induced disabilities for 2021-2022 post DedFaux Rollout? Are we on track for 30 million per year?
I know that the stats have been deep-sixed, blurred and smeared beyond any hope of proof. That VAERS has been fudge-bombed, that the two week span between jab and statcount has been hastily buried among the lily beds, that money was paid to count all hospital deaths as viral-caused whether they were or not, and that the fog of war has been sprayed around like clouds of DDT to prevent gathering of clear intelligence.
Nevertheless, I want to see a number. It may be an imaginary number but I want it. A rough number as guesstimated by the most pessimistic anti-mystical hardnosed, old (or young) f-word flinging codger on the planet at the present time.
I’ll take the opposite too, any figure spouted oracularly forth by the most wild-haired, tinfoil tommyrot slinging, string-and chewing gum caustic cladistic chum. What might be the worst, most exaggerated, gloomiest, gusset-busting guess?
Is it anywhere close to 33 million harmed?
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Date: 2023-04-01 09:34 pm (UTC)If the number of dead and damaged are comparable as well, perhaps we can think of the survirvors as wounded veterans and the dead as victims of an unjust, unprincipled war on the masses.
How many British men more than a hundred years volunteered out of a sense of duty or were whitefeathered and Karen’ed into the ranks?
How many were drafted and who mainly profited from all of the killings and mayhem and property destruction? Why the providers of weapons, clothing, boots, and petrol, of course.
So the people who flung themselves frantically into the fray, ignorant, deluded, tricked, coerced -- are the wounded veterans of our day and time: the Lost Generations.
Even if the number of dead and damaged does not equal the cost in blood paid by the rank and file from ‘39 to ‘45, there may be far more whose lives are shortened and made miserable by the money-milking machinery of the conscience-free, science-optional ‘managed care’ and usurious insurance industries.
If, by their sacrifice, the greater portion of all nations can pry loose the death-grip of Big Pharma and the thumb-greasy thugs of Insurance Alley, their suffering will not be in vain, It will be in service to a far greater good.
There must and will arise a thousand thousands of ways and means to mitigate their suffering. Alternatives to industrialized military-mode proxy-doctoring and statistics-driven drugs already exist; all that is needed now is to develop treatments specifically tailored to each individual with focussed attention, home care, and herbal medicinals.
Science can flourish too, Are wild-foraged herbs more efficacious than garden-grown? Or is a combination best? How does soil health affect community health? And many other questions can be examined and answered.
One of the things to keep tabs on is the amount of pollution already harming the land and water, which, according to the 1972 Club of Rome report, is due to increase on the downslope of petrol’s world wide hegemony.
As the Reign of Oil slacks, the Rain of Acid shall increase. Coal residues will once again affect life in the Appalachian hills. Water in the West. Beetle-bit and drought-depleted forests to the North. And in the deep South insect vectors of disease are likely to
increase.
However, more latitude and longitude in the medical sphere io action also carries some major risks. I do not think that the principle of liberty is best served by an absence of all public regulation and oversight.
For instance, the nasty conditions that prevailed in Chicago feedlots, meat processing and canning plants was written up by many a muckraker. Patent medicines mainly consisting of ethanol with a few herbs and molasses have been mocked for at least a hundred years in the US. TB transmitted by cow’s milk, rotten eggs commonplace in small grocery stores, etc.
But urban food cheats are not confined to the Robber Baron era of industrial infamy. Bug-burgers and psychosis-inducing ‘shroom-’meats’ are kicking around already.
History recounts a great deal of regulation of urban food providers. Tricks and cheats, gross adulterations, and even poisons were used by brewers, bakers, millers, and sailors’ provisioners to boost profits throughout England’s Regency era and during medieval times too.
What standards of regulation ought to be coded into law is a real thorny thicket. If anyone is thinking about future and looser medical guidelines, please point me to their site.
I mean laws that curb snake-oil sales and punish providers of fake syphilis tests for marriage licenses, and such like scams – without hog-tying homeopathic providers and outlawing raw milk.
Re: good regulations?
Date: 2023-04-02 12:17 am (UTC)I used to be in the "we need good regulations" camp. Now I would say I'm more in favor of "we need no regulations". There would still, of course, be more general laws regarding fraud and wrongful death, and anyone selling something deadly or misrepresenting what is in their product could still be taken down following a criminal trial. Beyond that, I would be in favor of a "de-anonymization" of medicine and restoration of community ties, such that snake-oil salesmen get run out of town if their products cause harm or don't work.
Re: good regulations?
Date: 2023-04-02 05:28 pm (UTC)What is the deanomynization factor you mention? Does that mean letting medical providers follow their patients from cradle to grave as in the old days? Or something else?
Re: good regulations?
Date: 2023-04-02 06:57 pm (UTC)If we can return to a community structure in which people talk among themselves about what actually works and what doesn't, then the good doctors should be inundated with calls and the bad doctors should find themselves out of work.