Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 86

[ecosophia]

As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselessness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Not all vaccines are the same

[(Anonymous)]

ask yourself why you believe that. what data have you seen? if you actually look at the data (from ourworldindata), you find:

The country with the highest deaths per million of population for TB is Niger (31 deaths/million people). Niger is 95% vaxxed against TB. Of the top 10 countries with the highest death rates from TB (average of around 25 deaths/million people), half are at least 95% vaccinated.

At the other end of the scale, Ireland stopped vaccinating entirely against TB in 2015, and is in the bottom 10 for deaths (0.2 deaths per million). Switzerland is notable here too, with 0.36 deaths per million (in the bottom 20 for deaths from TB, from a total of 155 countries for which I could find all the data), and 76% of its population unvaccinated.

Put simply, the country with the highest death from TB is almost completely vaccinated against TB; the country with almost the lowest rate of death from TB is completely unvaccinated.

the same pattern is true of all other vaccines, with the sole exception of rabies; that 1 will save your life. but really, the accepted wisdom will damage or kill your children, according to the actual data.

• Are vaccines effective? What does history tell us?
"For children over one year of age, the overall decline in mortality during the 20th century has been dramatic. In 1900, more than 3 in 100 children died between their first and 20th birthdays; today, fewer than 2 in 1,000 die. Nearly 85% of this decline occurred before the Second World War, a period when few antibiotics or modern vaccines and medicines were available".

"Annual Summary of Vital Statistics", PEDIATRICS, the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. DOI: 10.1542/peds.106.6.1307

• If vaccines are not effective, what has improved health over the last century?
"The incidence of diseases such as cholera and typhoid has dropped dramatically, despite the lack of vaccines. In 1900, the incidence of typhoid fever (for which there has never been a vaccine) in the United States was about 100 cases per 100,000 people. By 1920, it had dropped to 33.8 cases per 100,000 people. By 2006, it had dropped to 0.1 cases per 100,000 people. This decrease in the disease is attributed to the introduction of disinfection and treatment of drinking water, improved quality of water sources, and improved sanitation and hygiene. It is because of these successes that we can celebrate more than a century of disinfection and treatment of public drinking water - one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century".

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/history.html