Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 29

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a very high number of comments -- to understate the matter considerably! -- so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as Canadian officials launch a campaign of reprisals against citizens who supported a peaceful protest against government policy, and the words "died suddenly" become the favorite media euphemism of our time, the floor is open for discussion.   

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Hello all:

Last weeks the issue with dreams had been going hard over here. Last week there were the issue of the nature of the ‘problem’, be it demonic or divine.

I didn’t participate before in this issue, but I’ve also had a dream, but that was weeks before the Hypothesis by JMG was published. Las week comments on the possible nature of the issue made me re-think about that.

So, it’s gonna be long, and my english is poor, so if you are not interested or think this is pointless, forget about this.

My dream started as a walk by the countryside with my wife, daughter and a little dog we had that passed away by 2016. We were on my father’s patch of land (that I currently own but I can’t take care of), when I was hanging from a branch of an orange tree a little creature, like a bat, but bigger, although I knew somehow that it was really young, a baby, but it was ‘übernatural’ (that was the word, in german although I’m spanish… but learning german).

Then, on the way back home we came the same way, but the creature had been transformed. Now, under the same tree there were a nest of wood, with two black creatures and a little dog.

The black creatures looked like a calaverig dog. And the little dog was turned back to me, watching me with happy eyes, but with some sadness too.

Then, some knowledge appeared into my mind: those creadures were demonic, ‘bad animals from the unterworld’ that were feeding from the little dog alive (hence his suffering). They were feeding from alive creatures, they were already breeding, rising an army of such creatures.

They had a power: they erase the will of any creature within a range (that was growing, they were still young and ‘powerless’) and supplant it by their own will. That is what they had done to that little dog, that came to see them to be their food (and happy to be what he – them wanted, despite the obvious suffering and pain).

The army they were breeding soon will devour a big bunch of humans turning human will into those creatures will. A ‘mass casualty event’.

Then, I raised two questions: who/whom let them in – unanswered, and for how long – months to years.

Then suddenly, one of the creatures turned its ugly head to us. Our little dog run away from us, then we went after her, while going away as fast as possible from those creatures. I realised that they range was growing and we were close to it.

Soon, I loose my wife and my daughter from sight, but finally I found the little dog. Then I went after my daughter.

When I was close to her, a man appeared in the opposite direction, to the creatures, searching for a dog.

I begin to advise him that that was a one way ticket, straight to death.

Then, my wife made me know that better if I shut up, that man could be already in the creatures hands, and that may raise their awarenes about us. So better pick our daughter and run home ASAP. She was also on the way, but the man may be lost: there is absolutely nothing we can do about.

Then, I felt safe, all of us, and I wake up. But I had lots of anger at what will happen to humankind. It was pretty clear that this would be really nasty, and human made, not Covid.

My thoughts are that those creatures are let alone here by some entity, and since this is an issue of will, that will not return back, the conclusion I draw is that is something driven by some angry God. Not my preferred option, though.

These last days I had been thinking about it again, and the substitution of will by ‘others’’ resonates to me with MSM… and the result, as we can witness with Canada is anything but nice, although much less dangerous than what I understand from my dream (a really massive casualty ‘event’… although long in time).

But I have the feeling that the worst part is just around the corner, about to emerge…

I’m sorry if I had been too long.

Best regards to everybody, and thanks again to JMG for hosting this space.

Beamspot.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for sharing.

Ive had an unusual dream as well. Its very rare for me to dream something and still remember it vividly.

In this dream I was looking for my father. I searched in the location where he celebrated the wedding to his second wife.
In this place there were lots of very sick people lying on the floor, in agony and bleeding. Nobody else seemed to notice them, tho.

I searched for my father without helping them, tho, not sure why. I might have thought that they were beyond help, maybe I didnt want to get too close to them because I was scared. That part isnt clear to my anymore.

After a while I found my father. He was in a bad state as well, disfigured in some way, mishaped somehow, but still in better condition than most of the others.
I could pick him up easily and carried him out of there. Then I woke up...

Not sure what to make of that.
Oh, and the german word is "übernatürlich", sorry for the nitpick, but you said you were learning.

greetings from germany.

A weird change in the narrative

[(Anonymous)]

Major news agencies have reported that the CDC has withheld covid data because it was concerned that the data would be misinterpreted. This is a major admission and it has been covered on the NYT, MSN, Bloomberg, CNN, Yahoo, and NBC. I don't know why the CDC would admit this or why the MSM would suddenly start covering content that is critical of the government's handling of covid.

My guess is setting things up for someone to take the fallout, but that only creates more questions.

Re: A weird change in the narrative

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if the basic hypothesis is right, this is probably a sign we're about to reach the point where a lot of people start dying...

Thanks to Whomever Posted the Naomi Wolf Article Last Thread

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks to whomever posted the Naomi Wolf article last thread. I read it this morning. It was awesome.

It got me wondering though, is this one of the precursors, the second religiosity JMG has written about so often. Whatever a persons religion is, or may in the future be, I definitely appreciate the ability to talk about matters of the numinous and luminous. I hope people can have interfaith discussions in a civil way if this is indeed an earmark towards the return of people towards religion & spiritual matters.

Here is the article again for those who may have missed it:

https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/is-it-time-for-intellectuals-to-talk?utm_source=url

May Peace Abide in this Forum!

Re: Thanks to Whomever Posted the Naomi Wolf Article Last Thread

[weilong]

That was a really good essay. Some people look at the current situation, figure that things could not have gone so consistently wrong just by mistake, and conclude that somebody must be doing it on purpose (this line of thinking gets tarred with the "conspiracy theory" brush). Naomi Wolf has concluded that something supernatural must be at work. I won't pretend to know, but I've seen some good arguments for characterizing it as a catastrophic failure of bureaucratic management - i.e. once the ball gets rolling, for whatever reason, nobody has the power to stop it.

Tamara Lich, Freedom Convoy organizer denied bail

[(Anonymous)]

Tamara Lich has been denied bail. Arrested and detained on the charge of "counseling to commit mischief", she is now a political prisoner. Dark days indeed for Canada. I feel angry and helpless, and I have no idea what to do in the face of this wave of authoritarian oppression.

https://torontosun.com/news/canada/canadian-press-newsalert-ottawa-protest-organizer-tamara-lich-denied-bail

Tim PW

Re: Tamara Lich, Freedom Convoy organizer denied bail

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's question so much of what to do, which is with Faustian default, but rather how to be. Perhaps acting at this point is part of the problem.

Hyper lethal varient

[seanbolger1]

Here in the UK, Sage advisory body, the government scientists, are predicting a new hyper lethal varient that can kill up to 35 percent of the people it infects.
Which is strange, first there is no way they can know that in advance and also their previous prediction were mostly wrong and have significantly damaged their reputation.
Also so far covid has only had a 0.3 percent death rate, highly concentrated in the elderly population with several co-morbidities.
A rate of 35 percent would put it on par with the black death.
Assuming everyone in the UK caught it, that would put the death toll well above 20 million. Thats quite an extreme prediction to make even more so considering the amount of criticism they are already facing for their previously wrong forecast.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10527921/Now-SAGE-warns-Boris-weeks-bonfire-Covid-rules.html

Kind regards
Sean

Re: Hyper lethal varient

[ari_ormstunga]

That's an oddly specific prediction, all things considered.

CDC hiding data. Shocker!

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/02/just-scandalous-cdc-withholding-most-of-the-covid-data-it-gathers-what-is-it-trying-to-hide.html

Also, some comments from IM Doc, a doctor who has been in practice for decades and is currently working in a smallish, well-to-do blue city in flyover:

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Some IM Doc doozies. From August:

I was informed today by the Health Dept that they have absolutely zero way of tracking correctly vaccinated cases. In that they do not have the ability to retrospectively find out which vaccination the person has had. So there is no way the CDC will be having this kind of detail, unless other states are doing this. I seriously kind of doubt it. It is now looking more and more that it is going to be up to local physicians like myself.

And November:

When you have been doing this as long as I have, you have a memory of what happened before and with that comes certain expectations about what should be happening now. I think that is what separates the older than 55 crowd from the under 40 crowd.

We do not even have to go back to AIDS. I am thinking of the last 2 events in my career where there was exceptional involvement from the CDC. In 2018, we had the vaping crisis. In 2012 or thereabouts, we had the West Nile issue. Although that virus had been with us since 2001 here in the USA, it really exploded in the summer of 2012 in the Deep South in the USA. I will not include the 2014 Ebola problem. The CDC was very involved there but that never really had to be taken nationally, these other 2 examples did.

In both cases, there was frequent, at times weekly updating from the CDC about treatment options and guidelines. There was intense discussion of what seemed to be working and what did not. In both cases, these treatment options were obviously non-approved for these purposes by the FDA. There was a crisis, and this is what we have available, and this is how you should be using them. This is what works. This is what does not work. And this is our evidence why we feel the way we do. This was constant from the CDC in both cases.

That has simply not happened at all in COVID. Here we are 2 years into this. There is not a single shred of treatment advice from the CDC outside of the inpatient setting. Let’s face it – most antiviral efforts have to be done immediately. That would mean where I work in an outpatient setting is the golden hour. If we wait till the patients are in the hospital they are going to have much worse outcomes. The agencies are saying nothing about outpatient therapy and have put forth nothing. We have worldwide studies on fluvoxamine, ivermectin, HCQ, steroids, VIT D, VIT C, Zinc, and I am sure there are many others. We now have monoclonal AB. A question – have you ever heard Dr. Fauci discuss monoclonal AB in a positive way? If you have please show it to me.

There has been no guidance at all about any of these therapy options. There has been lots of censoring, hectoring, belittling, and confusion. It is unusual to find a physician willing to engage any of these therapies, despite some of them having overwhelming positive signals in early outpatient therapy.

There is not ONE single bullet. By now, 2 years into this we should be throwing all kinds of things at these patients – anti-virals, anti-clotting agents, anti-inflammatory agents. But we are doing nothing.

Again, our CDC has done nothing to help with this at all. NOTHING. Not only the CDC. In previous events, there was treatment advice flowing from medical schools around the country. CRICKETS.

We have gone all in on the vaccine approach and have done so from the beginning.

Now, the bill is due. My office is literally flooding with vaxxed and boosted patients that are very ill. We are in a precarious situation with the hospitals of America. They are in much worse shape employee-wise than many Americans would dare dream.

I feel all alone. I feel it is my sworn job to keep as many of these people safe and out of the hospital as possible. But there is literally no help from the CDC at all VAX VAX VAX. Here is the problem – about 85% of these patients in my practice that are now positive and getting sicker by the day are already VAXED Many of them boostered. We are in the middle of a crisis with the hospitals – and we simply cannot fill them up the way we have.

I have never felt so shat on professionally in my life. I am having to weave together treatment protocols from multiple sources. And hope for the best that we can survive.

Re: CDC hiding data. Shocker!

[(Anonymous)]

Are there any more recent updates from him?
Id love to hear his impressions from January.

[(Anonymous)]

The idea of Covid Accountability needs to be pushed hard by everyone who can.

All that means, we really cannot yet say, as much remains unknown. It's too early for -public - talk about perpetrators or sanctions to be a useful strategy. But the idea that we must find out what and how it happened, and act to make sure it is never repeated, should be non-controversial and an easy idea to mainstream.

Covid Accountability needs to be part of every political discussion, by all parties. We've been told Covid is an global, existential threat, so there can be no argument against comprehensive global accounting of it's genesis and unfolding.

Even advocates of the Great Reset / Build Back Better should want Covid Accountabiity.



Me: "We need Covid Accountability"

My NPC sister: "What do you mean? It's no one's fault, it's a mutated bat virus."

Me: "Right. So we need an accounting of how it became a human pandemic, so it doesn't happen again. Next time we might not get so lucky with warp-speed vaccines."

Sister: "Yeah, that makes sense."

[(Anonymous)]

This is good. My fear is on large scale it would boomerang back around to placing blame on the unvaccinated for not getting vaccinated. "We've got to hold everyone accountable!" will be the rallying cry. It's never the government or media who is accountable.

[(Anonymous)]

Back on the fourth open post, when you introduced the demon hypothesis, you wrote the following:

"Once the demons get as many people ensnared in their trap as they reasonably can, their efforts will shift to tormenting those victims with misery and despair; the breakdown of the mainstream coronavirus narrative, I think, marks the point at which they've begun to wind up the first half of their activities and pile into the second. Those of us who didn't fall for it will be of little interest once that shift is mostly complete; I expect to see the corporate media shift accordingly from demanding vaccine mandates to spreading the first unwelcome news that something is very, very wrong with the vaccines."

With the NYTimes now criticizing the CDC for withholding vaccine data, the CBC starting to ask if the boosters are worth it for young adults, and Denmark wrapping up their entire Covid-19 response altogether, we seem to be well on our way. It seems like this was an accurate prediction, and although it seems likely that some of the restrictions will remain for quite some time (ex: it seems like crossing international borders will require a vaccine for a while yet), most of the restrictions which matter are being wound down even in Canada.

I'm hoping things will enter a period of stability once these are wound down, but it feels to me like we're entering the calm before the storm...

[ecosophia]

Yes, I've been watching those shifts and noting that they seem to be following the course of my speculation about demonic involvement. Still, we'll see how things unfold from here. If the demonic hypothesis is correct, I'd expect to see the media bit by bit swinging to the opposite extreme, and feeding feelings of misery and despair in those who've taken the vaccines. An early sign of that might be many more articles on people "dying suddenly" with no cause of death given, to generate a groundswell of dread.

[(Anonymous)]

It does seem that by evoking the Emergencies Act prime minister Turducken *wants* a civil war.

The recent Joe Rogan podcast with Maajid Nawaz explains a lot.

There should be an upcoming day of solidarity, "Hug an unvaxxed person" day. Talk to them.

[hearthspirit]

I love "Turducken", that's a keeper, right there.

Apparently Trudeau requires a day of solidarity with his past self.

"On February 17, 2017 — five years to the day before he stood in the House of Commons and opened debate on his government's decision to invoke the Emergencies Act — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau addressed the St. Matthew's Day Banquet, an elegant, centuries-old event held annually in Hamburg, Germany.

Weeks earlier, Donald Trump had become president of the United States. Shortly before that, the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union. Trudeau suddenly found himself portrayed as a torch-bearer for liberal democracy and progressive government. Five months after his speech in Hamburg, he appeared on a Rolling Stone cover which asked whether he was "the free world's best hope."
...
Trudeau told the business and political figures in his audience that he wanted to "challenge" them, "to highlight that the challenges we're facing require real action and real leadership."

Trudeau's second suggestion was simpler in theory but maybe harder to follow in practice. Political leaders, he said, need to listen.
...
Trudeau could argue that some of his comments have been made to seem worse than they were. His suggestion to one interviewer that some of those who oppose COVID-19 vaccination were "misogynistic and racist" has since been framed as an attack on all the unvaccinated.

But the lesson of Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" moment in 2016 is that leaders (particularly progressive ones) have to choose their words carefully to avoid creating a rallying cry for opportunistic populists.
...
In Trudeau's case — however much he might have wanted to "listen" — he ended up standing in opposition to some of his fellow citizens. That's harder than standing up to Donald Trump or the illiberal ideas that leaders like Trump promote.

It does not follow that Trudeau is to blame for the protests. But the convoy demonstrated the need for people in public life to find the line between compassion and capitulation — to acknowledge the concerns of angry, uneasy voters while still rejecting the influencers and ideas that cannot in good conscience be humoured."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-vaccine-pandemic-trudeau-populism-1.6360519

.epub and single .html file of open threads and hypothesis to date, bonus: gets from previous thread

[(Anonymous)]

Here is the updated .epub (open ebook format) of the hypothesis and all open threads and comments
https://mega.nz/file/oAgmgBBQ#6rE2VreJbf2Og1e4HFThoGj6nTKHCN2G5MS3ctzSHmg

A single .html(archived as zip) file that has all the posts and comments, you can just decompress it and open it in your browser and you can search pretty fast in it
https://mega.nz/file/8AhS0JaL#j1fU-WzH9utwiwoUha8h2rlFvMkx8UIXDsi2tsn8Q_o




Now bonus the situation with the gets in the previous open post

First there are only gets of number 7, which is very interesting if not for the fact that there also three 4 digit gets of 7 in a post, it never happen, there was only one in all the threads since the begining:

three 4 digits gets:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26327777#cmt26327777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26487777#cmt26487777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26647777#cmt26647777

nine 3 digits gets
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26359777#cmt26359777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26391777#cmt26391777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26423777#cmt26423777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26455777#cmt26455777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26519777#cmt26519777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26551777#cmt26551777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26583777#cmt26583777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26615777#cmt26615777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26743777#cmt26743777

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/169953.html?thread=26551777#cmt26551777
is about 777 comments

given that the post is about gods wrath could it be that the god in question is the god of 7: Saturn?

Re: .epub and single .html file of open threads and hypothesis to date, bonus: gets from previous th

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you

[(Anonymous)]

JMG - do you have any thoughts on the Ukraine developments of the past 24 hours? Do you think there is a good chance that things go sideways? I can't help but recall "Twilight's Last Gleaming." Interesting that it came out the same year as the Ukraine coup.

[lincoln_lynx]

I'm obviously not JMG but IMO fears of war are overblown. (For now.) Russia doesn't want war and neither does Europe. There's likely a great deal of backdoor negotiation between the two which stalled, resulting in yesterday's events, another round of negotiations will follow, and Putin will keep upping the stakes until Europe caves.

the people's convoy

[(Anonymous)]

the convoy is leaving tomorrow, 2/23, and if they stay on schedule will arrive in dc on 3/5. the route can be found on their website: https://thepeoplesconvoy.org/

- p coyle

Re: the people's convoy

[(Anonymous)]

May they have success! I was among GiveSendGo's US contributors, and so far have not been harassed. Lacking social media accounts probably helps!

This time around, I paid cash for a money order at the local grocery store, filled out the payee name and nothing else, and mailed it in an envelope with no return address, from the post office.

It's appalling that I even need to think this way. But there you have it.

Normally I'd type my name, but this time I'm among the Anonymous.

[(Anonymous)]

The silence of the liberal class in Europe is deafening with regards to Canada.
Are they silent because they are ashamed, or are they silent because they wish to follow Trudeaus ”example”? I suspect they are eager to see if they could also freeze peoples bank accounts to stop protests without triggering a bank run. Rumor has it, that Europes banks are in horrible, horrible shape though. A Bank run here would be 2015 debt crisis all over again. ”Once more, with feeling!” And then, curtains.

John Rubino often said that when you mess up the finances of a country, you also mess up politics along with it. Crazy ammounts of debt results in crazy governments. One follows the other. I wonder how much the rona reactions by our governments and people already reflect that? But then there is Japan and it seems they haven't gone nuts as far as I can tell.

Finland is having a new media fueled panic cycle over Russia. We are allowed to panic over one thing at a time, it seems. So, apparently now we should now fear Russia again, instead of rona. It's like the bear in the woods growled a bit and reminded us that she exists. Sorry! We forgot. We were busy being sick, you see. Time to panic! I think they went and bought some F35 fighter jets. Aren't those things basically boondoggles of the highest order? (Much like those mrna vixens?) I am reminded of Dimitry Orlovs essay were he engouraged all kinds of boondoggles as a way to make a collapse more bearable. It was a very funny essay.

There was a headline in the media that claimed that people who had died of rona had also developed alzheimers. Im too lazy to take that bait.

It is my birthday today. 20.02.2022. Or 02.22.2022 as it is marked in some countries. I only mention it because the date is so odd. When I was a kid (many moons ago) playing a roleplaying game cyberpunk, this date seemed so special (Because the game was set in 2020's). I often wondered if the future would indeed be somekind of technological dystopia. Future is less exciting when you get there I suppose, because now we get to live through it. No flying cars though. No matter, I couldn't afford one even if it existed!

-Juhani

[(Anonymous)]

Happy birthday! I hope it's a pleasant one.

[(Anonymous)]

Once again, a sincere thank you JMG for hosting this forum.

I expect that you will be inundated with Canadian posts. Something to do with our tossing democracy & the rule of law into the toilet.

Its ugly.

The purported reason for enacting the Emergencies Act (martial law for you on the southern side of the border) was the trucks on the bridge & street. The trucks on the bridge were gone before Mr. Fancy Socks invoked the Emergencies Act. The trucks on the street were gone before Parliament (Liberals & NDP) validated the enactment.

The thrust seems to be financial surveillance, everything over $25. That's about $20 US dollars. Bank accounts are frozen, assets seized, insurance & licences cancelled. There is no due process.

The RCMP simply contact the relevant party, and they act. Government & corporations acting in concert. This, according to Benito Mussolini is fascism. I think he should know, its his ideological creation.

Most of the people charged were charged with what most people consider petty crimes, mischief & parking violations. Yup. Seizing $100k+ rigs for parking violations.

Oh, they've already stated it will last at least 2 - 3 months. Longest 2 weeks (to flatten the curve) in my life. I suspect that it will last a lot longer as they deal with the economic storm looks ready to break us straight into 1932. Stagflation? Hyperinflation? Hyper-stagflation?

It gets better. Thus is the renamed War Measures Act. If it functions the same way, it can be used to forgo one election cycle. Nine plus years.

Stay tuned.

I wonder if I can emigrate to the US, The Alaska panhandle, perhaps?

[(Anonymous)]

They actually tried to introduce legislation in Aus a few years back banning cash transactions over 10,000, which was thankfully defeated in parliament. Europe has a passed a lot of laws to the same effect.

Funnily enough covid came along a year later and cash is now dirty and infected, although it is still legal to use as much of it as you want here in aus. From all the advertising lauding cashless payment and what is happened in Canada it seems to me all the western currencies will be inflated to death in the coming years, and a digital currency will be touted as our saviour.

Keep your eyes peeled...

Side effects

[(Anonymous)]

"How rare are vaccine side effects? Not very rare at all."
"The CDC and Wall St. Journal both say serious side effects from the COVID vaccines are extremely rare. They are lying. But now we have unassailable proof from the Israeli government!"

by Steve Kirsch
Feb 21, 2022


EXCERPT:

"The CDC and Wall St. Journal are both lying to you. Big time.
The truth is the vaccines are an unmitigated disaster. The most dangerous vaccines in human history. They should be immediately halted.
But the mainstream media is completely silent and totally ignored this study because it goes against the narrative.
Here’s the proof… right from the Israeli Ministry of Health
The latest proof of that comes from the Israeli Ministry of Health who did something that no government agency has ever done before: did a proactive survey of people who got the booster (instead of using a passive surveillance system like everyone else does). This is the only way to get true rate data since you know the denominator."


REAL THE FULL POST:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/how-rare-are-vaccine-side-effects?utm_source=url

Re: Side effects

[(Anonymous)]

edward dowd (ex-blackrock big wig and hedge fund guru) says that big insurance is getting ready to take on big pharma, because of the increased payouts they are having to make due to what one insurance company says is a 40% increase in working age deaths in the past year.

if the insurance companies can prove fraud in the safety trials, it would invalidate the immunity from liability that is currently in effect for the jab-makers. that would most likely bankrupt all of them.

apparently wall st. is getting miffed, and they are one of the few players that has the dosh to fight big pharma in the courts. i, for one, cannot wait for the discovery phase of any forthcoming lawsuit.

- p coyle

[ataulfo]

Is anyone else hopeful about the wheels of the COVID bureaucracy coming off in front of everybody? The New York Times talking about the CDC's data withholding, the paranoid authoritarian measures Canada is taking in front of everyone, the FDA welcoming Pfizer's lawyers to help them not have to release data in a timely manner in front of everyone! Is this not cause for excitement, how obviously absurd it now is to the average person!?!?!?

[(Anonymous)]

The masses and the average person has zero thinking about any of this covid stuff. The majority want to be left alone in peace to watch Netflix and go buy the stuff that makes them happy. It's the media who will need to whip up some kind of movement of the masses.

[stcathalexandria]

Does anyone know which vaccine Mr. Gates received and how many doses of it? Curious minds!

[(Anonymous)]

My gut feeling is: none.

Late night JW

[(Anonymous)]

Ok, this is something that happened many years ago that has stuck with me. It's before the Covid madness but it seems to fit with the recent posts of demon vs. god.

I used to work a late night shift and would fill up my truck at a closed gas station (the pumps would still operate with credit card purchase) at the end of my shift which was around 1-2 AM. Usually no one but me at this deserted gas station in the middle of the night but a few times over the years someone would pull up. I'd eye them to make sure they weren't gang bangers or something that might be trouble, but usually they wouldn't even glance my way.

One night, a car pulls up, out comes a middle aged woman, we briefly make eye contact. I turn away as she seems harmless and I don't want any awkward interaction. Then, after a pause, me waiting for my truck to fill up and her starting to pump her gas, out of the blue she says to me (paraphrasing from memory)

"You know, God is taking over"

Me: "I'm sorry, what did you say?"

"We are in a time when God is taking over. You see, He goes away and lets man run things for a time to show us we can't run the world, then he comes back. That's why things are bad, but He's coming back to fix it."

Then she walks over to me and hands me a business card that says 'JW' which is apparently the new hip way Jehovah's Witnesses are branding themselves. Now, maybe JW's say this to all the people they meet at gas stations late at night. I don't know. But the coincidental part is that I was thinking about the same thing at that time. Specifically why is it so hard for people to transition to a world that is sustainable and not so obviously self-destructive. Why are we destroying our selves, our future? Admittedly, I think about this topic a lot. And Yes, I understand the irony of thinking such things whilst filling up a truck with gas. I'll just say in my defence that I have made efforts and continue to do so while most people in my life do not even think it's real. Just as the danger of resource depletion doesn't register with many people I know, it is much the same with the current danger of taking experimental drugs for a certain flu like disease. It doesn't register as real to a lot of people, it can't be talked about. Instead, let us all plunge toward that cliff. Nay, let us accelerate toward that cliff enthusiastically with all haste. It's the same vibe except heightened, multiplied.

Is it faith in the pseudo religion of Progress driving this? Does this anger the gods? Or after so much time of man trucking things up, is it just time for the gods to come back and set things right? (as only they can). I've never thought of demons playing a role, but they also offer an explanation.

I don't know. This was before the Covid madness and maybe JW's say this to everybody all the itme, but it seems to tie in with the return of somethng powerful beyond human control.

Re: Late night JW

[(Anonymous)]

I was raised Jw and married to one now. Jws do say this frequently. It's one of their opening lines to pique your interest in their cult.

[(Anonymous)]

religious-exemption-requesting Thelemite here. On my request for exemption I was sent literature informing me that in lieu of vaccination, I would have to get a test every four days - I wish I were joking. Not worth the hassle at any price but certainly not at the peanuts they'd have paid.

The good news is I reached out to the student who requested lessons with me and they seem all to happy to take lessons independent from their school's involvement. So mote it be!

[ecosophia]

So mote it be indeed. Do what keepeth thou from wilting shall be the loophole in the Law!

Empty suburbs

[eldriwolf]

This is apt to get long.

Not a dream, exactly,it took place long ago. (In the 1970's)
I was riding a train, and noticed that some of the last remaining Agricultureal land had been bulldozed, for tract homes.
I felt like I had been punched, almost sick to my stomach.
I had a sort-of tugging on the back of my neck, and a voice close to me said.

*
'It's all right, after the plauges, we can come back, and make it into feilds again'*
I felt comforted,(for about two heart beats.)
I looked around, there was *No One* at my end of the car, At All.
I was thinking,"Plauges?"
What plauges? When?"
No answers
I swear the voice was External. Not like my usual inner voices.
When the COVID started, I wondered if This would be the big one...So I asked my inner voices
The answer was, "Think of this as a 'Dress Rehearsal', a practice run."

I have not had any 'external' messages since that first one.

I am enough of a biologist, to remember that disease spreads faster in crowded populations.
I Have paid close attention to outbreaks since then.

I don't usually share this...it seemed like the right time

Re: Empty suburbs

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Very interesting.

Backpedaling

[(Anonymous)]

I see that today the mayor of Boston has lifted vaccine passports effective immediately.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/02/18/boston-lifts-proof-of-covid-vaccine-requirement-effective-immediately/

During the truckers' protest in Ottawa, various Canadian provincial governors suspended vaccine mandates. Now, the Canadian parliament has extended the Emergencies Act for 31 days.

Interesting times.

Re: Backpedaling

[(Anonymous)]

The lifting of the requirements happened five hours after a lawsuit against Mayor Wu, the city of Boston, & Boston's director of Public Health was filed in federal court by an attorney named Richard Chambers. The suit hasn't been dropped, either, last I heard, they were asking the court to determine what (if any?) statutes the restrictions were based upon, so nothing similar could happen again.

We all know vaccines are a leading cause of coincidences. Maybe lawsuits are, too?

Hypotheticon

[(Anonymous)]

In Sweden, they are predicting that a new "hypothetical" variant of COVID might break out in March. No idea what this is even based on. I call it Hypotheticon. Apparently, it will be no worse than Omicron, though...

Tidlösa, Sweden

Re: Hypotheticon

[(Anonymous)]

I have for some while imagined that such a thing might befall Sweden, Florida and other jurisdictions not sufficiently observant of the sacred Narrative and its holy hypodermic sacrament. Those who flout the commandments of the great god Progress are liable to receive much divine punishment, as all right-minded people will readily affirm.

Died Unexpectedly

[(Anonymous)]

Mark Lanegan, dead at 57. RIP.

https://www.undertheradarmag.com/news/mark_lanegan_has_died

"...Lanegan had a long history of substance abuse issues, but was 10 years sober as of 2020. In 2020 Lanegan and his wife Shelley Brien moved from Los Angeles to Killarney, Ireland. In 2021 he was hospitalized with severe COVID-19 and almost died. That motivated him to go from believing in COVID-19 conspiracy theories and being vaccine-hesitant to saying in an interview with Consequence last December that he would get boosted."

Re: Died Unexpectedly

[deathcap]

Wait, get "boosted"? That means that after being hospitalized with severe COVID-19, he THEN got multiple shots? Spike protein overloaddddddddddd

A gray champion, dictator or something else soon?

[drhooves]

Over the weekend I had some random thoughts of the pandemic, and how my early views of the "big picture" have changed. But some things are on track, as I've always thought Covid-19 was a bit of a diversion from .gov having to deal with the economy - and we all know which direction the economy is going.

Specifically I was thinking that the U.S. is in a similar spot politically as was Germany in 1931-32, when the street battles between the various political factions at the extremes (Nazis, Communists) was wearing down citizens in the moderate portions of the spectrum. Well, we all know how that ended up.

Does 2022 or 2024 mark a point where American citizens will accept an imperfect Republican candidate and more draconian measures to save us from the hell the Democrats have unleashed? In other words, swing away from the woke/liberal/leftist policies to the other extreme?

And then today I came across this story - where a "celebration" of the Communist Manifesto was crashed by some flag waving Nazis. A small event perhaps, in the same neck of the woods as our generous host, but maybe a glimpse of what's coming?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/so-ugly-neo-nazis-crash-book-reading-with-giant-swastika-flag/ar-AAUaLXf

"The Monday book reading was meant to commemorate the anniversary of the Communist Manifesto—also known as “Red Books Day.”

Re: A gray champion, dictator or something else soon?

[ecosophia]

Good gods. That happened in Providence, three and a half miles from where I live.

One of the things that makes me uncomfortable these days is remembering what Giambattista Vico said about situations like this one. He noted that when politics becomes sufficiently toxic, people get so tired of it that they eagerly accept monarchy, just so that the monarch will make the contending parties shut the frack up and let people go on with their lives. I think he's quite correct, and we could see the consequences.

It occurs to me, for example, that if a Canadian general -- let's call him Bob McDonald -- were to stage a coup, seize power, declare himself dictator, and publicly execute Trudeau and a few other people, so long as he then ordered the Covid restrictions scrapped and didn't impose any ideologically based trip of his own, he'd have cheering crowds thanking him for stuffing a sock in the mouths of the ideologues...

Hunters Lodges

[(Anonymous)]

Reading tonight a little bit on the hunters lodges popular in the 1830s in the u.s. Seems to be commonalities the situation in Canada and the United States today. Hunters lodges were aimed to liberate Canadian colonies from tyranny of British thralldom. Counted on support from borderlanders. Military generals of the time complained they couldn't do anything because so many officers favored the cause of the hunters lodges. Reasons Americans join these lodges we're in part due to an idealistic belief in Canadian independence. They lost, but they were a kind of freedom fanatic of the time.

What's interesting to me is that protest in Canada were partly funded by people from the United States. Protest seem to be again about liberating Canadians from tyrannical thralldom. And at first at least the regular police didn't want to deal with them and seemed to be sympathetic.

JMG noted commonwealth countries that didn't reject British rule are going through a kind of hard tyrannical push by their governments currently.

The sentiment in the US that Canadians could be free from tyranny is potentially a useful tool here.

Re: Hunters Lodges

[ecosophia]

Hmm! Can you point me to some sources about these? I'm not familiar with this and it's the kind of thing I like to research.