Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Ha! You can't make this stuff up...

[(Anonymous)]

Congress (and judicial branch) exempt from vaccine mandate
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-vaccine-mandate


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fauci-no-firm-answer-why-americans-who-recovered-covid-19-should-get-vaccinated

Re: Ha! You can't make this stuff up...

[(Anonymous)]

The real interesting question is whether it will apply to state governments...

[(Anonymous)]

I find Fauci as paying a lot of attention to what the Zeitgeist is, that's why he is always flip-flopping, he is usually among the first ones to change phase.

He started to detach from the vaccine, looks to me forgive me if I am mistaken that is a good idea to settle to a satyagraha strategy and see what happens:

https://twitter.com/trexia69/status/1436501735384698884
https://twitter.com/drsanjaygupta/status/1436133536239599619

He is doing the same thing to Joe that he did to the Donald.

[(Anonymous)]

Something some of the small biz owners have started contemplating in response to the over 100 rule, is to lay off as many vaccinated employees until they get to 99. Some are doing this now.

Just another unintended consequence. I sense more to come...

Bush

[(Anonymous)]

That was a real trip to see Bush up there today trying to start the War On Terror 2.0 on the unvaxxed. The deep state game plan is becoming more clear, which is to provoke an overreaction in order to justify a heavy handed crackdown on anyone who opposes them. I sincerely hope that enough folks out there are smart enough to see through this and simply refuse to comply instead. So much easier and requires only positive energy.

They are obviously getting desperate to make such careless maneuvers, which means the horrific side effects of their experimental drugs cannot be covered up much longer.

https://tomluongo.me/2021/09/10/quietly-say-no-to-joe-bidens-call-for-civil-war/

Re: Bush

[(Anonymous)]

The deep state has been implementing a domestic color revolution. This stage of the plan is, as you say, to provoke the opposition into giving them an excuse to attack.

A significant crack in the vaccine mandate? Hopefully more to come

[(Anonymous)]

The Sunday Times is reporting that Boris Johnson will announce next week that Covid Passports are dropped "for the Winter" whatever that means...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccine-passports-scrapped-for-winter-by-boris-johnson-5g2fdb2zn

Re: A significant crack in the vaccine mandate? Hopefully more to come

[(Anonymous)]

A little more on that:

links (https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-the-british-are-dropping-vaccine)

[(Anonymous)]

JMG, you may hit a thousand comments! What a shame it couldn’t have been on a happier subject. At any rate, thanks for providing the forum.

—Lady Cutekitten

[ecosophia]

I wish it was on a happier subject too. I also wish that more online venues offered moderated spaces for dissenting opinions! Since neither of those are the case, yes, I expect this and subsequent Covid open posts to be record-setters...

Minor Hockey League making vaccines Mandatory in Ontario

[(Anonymous)]

The governing body for minor hockey in Ontairo, Alliance hockey, recently made vaccination against COVID mandatory for all children age 12 - 15 as a requirement to play. My son has not played for two years due to shutdowns. There is clear studies coming form the UK and from research in the U.S.A that there is a greater risk of male boys between the age of 12 and 15 of being injured by the vaccines and experiencing a cardiac averse effect then being hospitalized for covid. Using hockey as leverage to force me to vaccinate my 12 year old child is I think so outrageous and I am borderline angry beyond reason.
I went to a bar with a friend tonight where a woman informed me her son's friend of similar age now has a permanent heart injury due to this policy. I have written my local MP, and written the executive director of Alliance hockey, and provided them articles form the Guardian recently published and article from reputable medical group I found on this sight as evidence that this policy is putting children's lives in danger.
Against the wishes of my wife and son, and in an action that will certainly damage his mental health and drive a wedge into our relationship, I will have to make the decision to pull him out of hockey. I want these people who mandated this policy to pay for the injuries they are causing to children.

Re: Minor Hockey League making vaccines Mandatory in Ontario

[(Anonymous)]

In case this is helpful for communicating with the hockey league:

An actuary passed this along, back of envelope numbers using CDC and VAERS numbers. (Personally I think the harm numbers are likely to be an underestimate, because many side effects of novel treatments take a while to show, such as automimmune diseases, and are unlikely to be statistically associated with the triggering event because of systemic flaws in pharmaceutical evaluation. Read Ben Goldacre's 'Bad Pharma' for a whistle-stop tours of some of the problems. But here are her numbers.) Usually I would expect a vaccine to be seen as safe if at least 100 x safer than the disease, 10 x might be seen as acceptable in a particularly vulnerable population.

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Here are links (one was scrubbed from their website, but appears to have returned) to the CDC report on myocarditis/pericarditis.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-06/03-COVID-Shimabukuro-508.pdf p8

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-06/05-COVID-Wallace-508.pdf p32

HOSPITALIZATION DUE TO COVID VACCINE Page 32: The CDC predicts that fully vaccinating 1 million male 12 to 17 year olds would prevent 5,700 cases, 215 hospitalizations and 2 deaths from COVID.

Number Needed to Treat (to prevent 1 COVID disease hospitalization). 1 Million/215 = 4651

Page 8: .2% of 12-15 year olds (and also of 16 to 25 year olds) required hospitalization and/or emergency room treatment after their 2nd Pfizer dose and .1% after the 1st Pfizer dose. Assuming 1st dose and 2nd dose hospitalizations/ER are not mutually exclusive (worst case scenario) Number Needed to Harm = 1/.2% = 500

OR assuming mutually exclusive categories and the .1% rate applies to ALL who received the 1st dose Total (hospitalized/ER on 1st OR 2nd dose) = .3%

Number Needed to Harm = 1/.3%, 333

Based on VAERS, "hospitalizations" account for a little more than 1/3 of the total of "hospitalizations or ER". (July 2, 2021 VAERS in age group 6 to 17: 718 hospitalized +1211 ER only = 1929. 718/1929 = 1/ 2.6 or 1/3 in round numbers. Thus, an adjustment factor of 3 was applied to the NNHs to derive a comparable basis. So, NNH is between 999 and 1500 for hospitalization. Note: There was no separate categorization between male and female, so this "unisex" version is used for both male and female.

Thus, the Pfizer vaccine is 3 to 5 times more likely to cause a 12 to 17 year old male to be hospitalized, than CDC predicts it will prevent hospitalization from the disease itself. (3 from 4651/1500 and 5 from 4651/999, rounded)

Page 32: The CDC predicts that fully vaccinating 1 million female 12 to 17 year olds would prevent 8,500 cases, 183 hospitalizations and 1 death from COVID.

Number Needed to Treat (to prevent 1 COVID disease hospitalization). 1 Million/183 = 5464

For 12 to 17 year old females, the Pfizer vaccine is 4 to 5 times more likely to cause hospitalization than CDC predicts to prevent it, by similar calculations. (4 from 5464/1500 and 5 from 5464/993, rounded)

DEATH WITH COVID VACCINE Using the CDC's figures on 'at least partially vaccinated' as of July 2, 2021, VAERS death data as of July 2:

Number Needed to Harm = 8,123,243 at least partially vaccinated/14 COVID vaccine deaths = 580,232

Male Number Needed to Treat (to save 1 life) = 50,000

Female Number Needed to Treat (to save 1 life) = 1,000,000

So 12-17 year old males are only 16% less likely to die from COVID, than their vaccine. Females aged 12-17 years old are 72% MORE likely to die from their vaccine than COVID itself. (16% from 500,000/580,232 and 72% from 1,000,000/580,232)

UK - Rate of Infection

[(Anonymous)]

Data out of the UK shows higher *rate* of infection among double vaccinated to be higher than unvaccinated.

What are some the tentative inferences we can draw from this?



Source: Table 4, pp 14 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf

Darren

Re: UK - Rate of Infection

[(Anonymous)]

It could be a sign that the vaccine interferes somehow with the natural immunity that many people already have.

[(Anonymous)]

Huge rally in Waikiki tonight. Hawaiian flags mixed with American flags, people from all over the spectrum, and an amazing feeling of togetherness and solidarity without the involvement of some giant corporation. Our governor threw in his chips with Biden and might have just flipped the state red. Lots of businesses say they won’t follow the mandates. We will see how it goes, but it definitely feels like we just hit a turning point. Historic times. I can’t get that nagging feeling off my shoulder that a devastating economic collapse is right around the corner though. So few are prepared.

[(Anonymous)]

Hurrah for the rally! I hope it goes well.

Some say the pandemonium was rolled out to cover the economic downturn that what already coming. Whether that is true or not, telling millions of people to stay home and not work can only spell disaster for the economy. How long did anybody think that could last?

The Entity and what is might do to people.

[(Anonymous)]

Just a quick message to say yesterday I was working in a local medicinal herb garden we are growing in our local community. We're a group of volunteers and somehow I have found myself in a place of semi authority (must be the druidic beard). But anyway Yesterday I asked 2 members if they could plant some plants and that I had placed them where they needed to go. Both agreed and walked off in separate directions to areas that were at least 50 metres apart. I planted my plants and went over to the first person to see how they were doing. the conversation went as followed

me: Hey How are you doing
Volunteer: Hey, I've planted these in the wrong place, I'm going to move them
me:.... ok

No problems, they got on and did it. I then walked over to the second person, who was very much out of earshot of the first and the conversation went as such.

me: Hey How are you doing
Volunteer 2: Hey, I've planted these in the wrong place, I'm going to move them
me:.......um....ok

So to be clear, the plants were placed by me exactly where they needed to be, but both volunteers had been compelled to plant them in the wrong place, and then when finished had suddenly realised that they were in the wrong place. This intrigued me and with JMG's latest theory on a demon I did a meditation. It was interrupted by my partner saying to me, what's wrong with people, It's like they are COMPELLED to do the wrong thing. And a lightbulb went off in my mind with her words. The last few months I have worked with multiple people who have been COMPELLED to do the wrong thing (as in something other than the thing they should have done when asked) and then realised and self corrected without any outside influence.

This got me thinking about the Vaccines and how here in the UK people have been compelled to take them with very little thought whatsoever.

Is there a Demon that confuses and compels people to not think about what they are doing until after the job is done? Just a thought.

Re: The Entity and what is might do to people.

[methylethyl]

That is a great story! In some respects, it just sounds like life with kids. I cannot count how many times over the last few months I have had exchanges like this:

Me: (hands boy a thing) "Take this thing and put it away in the bathroom"
Boy: "OK" (heads in the opposite direction, toward the back door).
Me: "Boy, where is the bathroom?"
Boy: (stops, blinks a couple times, looks at object in hands) "Oh!" (heads toward bathroom)

I expect adults are capable of it, too. But in your case, it does seem like a message trying to get through ;)

Simon Sheridan's Update on the Devouring Mother Archtype

[(Anonymous)]

Some of you may be aware of Simon Sheridan's posts on corona and the devouring mother archetype, since I know it has been mentioned on this blog before. Sheridan has just posted an update, and I think he's onto something, a powerful way to start making sense of a deeply strange phenomenon.
http://simonsheridan.me/covid-19/corona-archetypal-update/

JMG, as ever, you have my heartfelt thanks for hosting this forum. Being able to read the comments, and offer my own, has been more helpful to me at this fraught and uncanny time than I can say.

Plaid Alarking Shrake

Re: Simon Sheridan's Update on the Devouring Mother Archtype

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds real similar to Corona-chan that the chans were trying to create. Maybe they succeeded. Ack.

Dark Humour -- or the Truth???

[(Anonymous)]

For those who enjoy dark humour, the following “cut and paste” one-minute video clip of the Premier of New South Wales (Australia) announcements may make your day. It sure made mine! Best to “watch” with your eyes closed.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=premier+of+new+south+wales

Ron M

Re: Dark Humour -- or the Truth???

[escorcher]

Incorrect link Ron - that's just a general search link for the premier of NSW. Would love to see the video if you can post the actual link!

More Good Covid Info Resources

[(Anonymous)]

Dr Marilyn Nass, a medical doctor and bioterrorism expert has an info-packed website:

https://merylnassmd.com

Also, for the many medical professionals who expect to be fired with the vax mandates, some hope from the highly experienced and energetic German legal activist Reiner Fuellmich-- specifically, after 45:00 in this video interview:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Sn6B8afPBrpJ/

Ochre Amphibious Mosquito

[(Anonymous)]

COVID Vaccine Trials In Animals Were Stopped Because They Kept Dying, Revealed In Texas Senate Hearing

Here is what was revealed during the hearing on May 6, 2021:

"Did you see any other vaccine that was put out for the public that skipped the animal tests?

Never before. Especially for children.

And as what I’ve read, they actually started the animal tests and because the animals were dying, they stopped the tests.

Folks, I think that’s important to understand there that what we’re talking about is American people are now the guinea pigs. This is the test program, thats going on.

They didn’t do the human testing and they stopped the animal test because the animals were dying. And then they turned it out for the public."

https://greatgameindia.com/covid-animal-trials-stopped/
https://tlcsenate.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?clip_id=15926

[(Anonymous)]

Pfizer released the results of animal testing September 2020.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200909005570/en/

[(Anonymous)]

My brother took the vaccine because he need to have dialysis, I met today 3 girls and a boy of 17 years old that got vaccinated because they wanted to go to concerts, that was the selling point for the young in Romania. I really hope this OAS and ADE don't turn out to be true.

[stcathalexandria]

In the never ending cruelty that is the Covid regime, workers that are refusing to be vaccinated are being put on unpaid leave. Apparently they don't even have to agree to it, the employers can do it without the worker's consent. The employees can not collect unemployment because they were not fired. Of course they can quit their job and hope to find another employer that doesn't require them, but for healthcare and airlines, all of them fall under the 100 employee mandate.

And then in the absurdity that is our government at every level, NYC teachers are not required to be vaccinated, but the NYC police and firefighters are. Now showing vaccine proof is mandatory across NYC, so are the teacher's just allowed to show their teacher ID and be waived through restaurants and museums? Or do they get a special "vaccine exempt" card?

At this point everything being enacted is just done to humiliate and anger people. None of it is about health, preserving lives, or (my least favorite phrase) keeping people safe.

I feel fortunate that my immediate area is unaffected so far - can shop without a mask, no vaccination restrictions - but at any day so bureaucrat with the blessing of the governor or president can enact a policy to ruin my life. I talk with more and more people that are suffering depression, anxiety, and just drinking more. I just want to shut myself off from everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Good evening!

No argument at all with your exasperation at the whole thing. I work in NYC schools though; we are absolutely being mandated.

The scenario at the moment, for anyone interested: They announced vaccine-or-weekly-testing in August, then the instant Pfizer was approved the mayor said nevermind, no testing option and no medical or religious exemptions.

Our (ridiculous) union did fight on the exemptions; it went to arbitration and last week it was ruled that accomodations will be considered for a short list of medical conditions. Religious exemptions are to be considered only for members of "recognized and established religious organizations" with a personal letter from a religious official (no sincerely held personal beliefs as federal law allows).

Any DOE employee who hasn't uploaded proof of vaccination or had an exemption approved by September 27 cannot come to work thereafter. According to the city there are 15,000 teachers, plus I don't know how many other school staff people, who haven't done so. The city says they have enough substitute teachers to replace us.

It has nothing to do with safety, of course, just whether or not you've obeyed. They pretend that only unvaccinated people can transmit the virus. The details of the policies are absurd. We have to fill out a little digital survey every morning before we enter, and when you get to the question about whether you're vaccinated, if you say yes, you're cleared, no further questions. So a teacher I work with was pretty sick with corona just a few days before we went back to work, but he's vaccinated, so he was right in there on on the first day. My wife has a co-worker who's husband is sick and tested positive tonight, but she's negative so far and she's vaccinated, so she'll be in school tomorrow. In both cases, had they not been vaccinated they wouldn't be allowed in.

So I, and a lot of others in the city, will be forbidden to work a few weeks from now, in addition to being already barred from restaurants, indoor events, taking my daughter to gymnastics, etc. Mayor says cops and firemen who don't get vaxxed or tested weekly won't get paid starting tomorrow. He says he's not "yet" considering mandating 12-year-olds like Los Angeles has, but the governor says she might. It's a pretty sorry spectacle. We're watching carefully and thinking through how our family is going to play this, though I expect things to keep changing day by day, one way or another. We'll see. I do know for sure that most of my students have had a difficult two years and will suffer further when they return to a short-staffed school, while some experienced teachers and counselors who want to be there are kept away.

J.

Lab Viruses

[stcathalexandria]

Lost in the daily media drama is any awareness of "accidental release" of more viruses. Apparently the virology labs are all still doing gain of function development and testing and I assume they already have a wide assortment of viruses harmful to humans and mammals in stock.

I feel like Rand Paul is the only congressman asking any meaningful questions and looking for accountability. One person can be shooed away as a nut job and ignored. The rest of Congress has been useless through this whole debacle.

(Applies tin foil hat) What's preventing another accidental release of an engineered virus? I feel like we should be preparing and talking about this as a country. I guess that is too unifying though and the powers that be only want division?

Re: Lab Viruses

[(Anonymous)]

Or, less than accidental. Whatever your beliefs about how this all started, incompetence or malice, now would be a perfect time to release a more dangerous strain (marketed as naturally occurring variant X) if you really wanted to ratchet the craziness up. If you had an agenda that benefited, for whatever reason, from this narrative. To cause a "see, we told you so" moment. People have spent a year and a half being psychologically primed. If this wasn't malice to start, but a series of unfortunate accidents, the second time doesn't have to be accidental at all.

[michaeliangray]

About a week or two back I said on the other blog that lockdowns can work but they can be considered a very blunt and damaging instrument to get results. It has worked 5 times where I live.

Please allow me to say that they HAVE worked, now they are not.

We are now in lockdown 6, have the hardest rules yet (Face Masks, 5Km travel limit, 2 hours out of the house for exercise, curfew times etc) and it doesn't seem to be working any more. Looks like it was a blunt weapon that even a virus can work its way around.

If something no longer works, maybe it is time to stop doing it all together.

[(Anonymous)]

I do QA for a living and so wanted to chime in here as I'm very sensitive about that seemingly innocuous word "works". Even in small engineering teams, defining what it means for something to "work" and then proving that it does is a complex activity and requires involves several categories of professionals. "Works" means "does what we want" and also "doesn't do what we don't want". The problem is that many of those definitions are unstated and can change imperceptibly over time.

Assuming you are in the world's most lockdownable city of Melbourne, Australia, the definition of the what it means for the lockdowns to "work" has changed over time as follows:-

- lockdown 1: flatten the curve/protect the hospital system
- lockdown 2-5: get back to 0 cases so the state border can open and so nobody dies before the vaccine arrives
- lockdown 6: ostensibly to get back to 0, but really to terrorise the public into taking the vaccine

According to those definitions, the lockdowns have "worked". But "works" also means "doesn't do what we don't want". Here is a shortened list of just the worst of these:

- cause massive economic damage
- cause unnecessary deaths from other illness not including covid
- remove two years of social and educational development from an entire generation of children
- cause elderly people especially and all people in general not to be able to see their own families and friends with associated mental health issues
- significantly weaken the structures of law and democracy
- ruin Australia's international reputation with unknown consequences for tourism, higher education, diplomacy etc.

It's only by ignoring all these things that we can even pretend that the lockdowns "worked".

Just saying 'Hi'

[ganeshling]

JMG and everyone,

Big thanks for this little island of sanity to all of you. It was quite synchronous that the first open COVID post went up just as the level of viral madness went a few notches up around here. It kept going up since then too.

Here in Melbourne everyone is tired of the endless lockdowns and politicians are doing everything they can to redirect the frustration and anger away from themselves. Despite all the evidence showing that vaccinating 100% of population will not bring the number of "cases" down, the narrative that is pedalled hard is that the only way to end the lockdowns is to vaccinate everyone. Cacomagic is applied in all possible ways - the latest slogan I saw in a shopping centre said "It's worth a shot to be outside". Today, a high boss at our work has sent everyone a message with something like "Come on people, go for it, every jab gets us closer to freedom!". My eyes cannot roll any further into my skull - they are already scraping the back of it...

One of my friends ended up taking the shot a few months ago. She did a little 2 Tarot card spread to help her with the decision and the "pro" card was 3 of Cups. Upon receiving her second shot she came down with mild flu-like symptoms and one of our vaccinut friends chose that moment to send her an encouraging notice. "I am so happy for you being entirely protected now. The only thing left to do is to vaccinate your children so your whole family is entirely protected." That was before they approved the jabs for 16 year olds - it wasn't even an option back then! My friend at that stage wanted to slam her phone against the wall. The main reason for her submitting to the jab was to get these people off her back. Instead she got even more of their attention and now we are joking that we won't be able to see the 3 of Cups and not laugh hysterically ever again. :}

It's not all entirely doom and gloom here though. Recently, a few QLD policemen started a crowdfunding campaign to collect money for a lawsuit against vaccine mandate. They managed to collect more than their target in under 2 weeks and I hope this will make more news as it goes.

Anyway, I just felt like posting a few anecdotes here to tap a bit more into the feeling of a community. I haven't taken the jab and I am hunkering down to stay unjabbed through this insane weather patch. All the best to all of us here. I really do hope that this whole thing falls apart with minimal harm to all involved.

MSM journalist asks - "Did you lose an unvaccinated loved one due to covid?" Replies will shcck you-

[(Anonymous)]

"After the vaccines were available to everyone, did you lose an unvaccinated loved one to COVID-19? If you're willing to share your family's story, please DM us your contact information. We may reach out for a story we're working on."

Replies are shocking. Even I did not expect the situation to be this bad.

https://www.facebook.com/80221381134/posts/10158207967261135/?d=n

Re: MSM journalist asks - "Did you lose an unvaccinated loved one due to covid?" Replies will shcck

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have Facebook so I can't see it. Could you maybe take a screenshot?

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/44455/20210912/lewis-county-hospital-to-stop-delivering-babies-after-staff-resign-refuse-vaccine-mandate

—Lady Cutekitten

In U.S., Sunday News Talk Shows and pushback.

[neptunesdolphins]

I watch the news talk shows on Sundays. (Yes, I know, a bad habit.) Every show had a Republican Governor pushing back against Biden's order and his focus on them. Each has joined in a class action suit to sue the Federal government for overreach. The talk show hosts tried to paint each of the governors in a bad light, but the governors discussed - the federal system being violated, the Constitution being violated, and basically said they are not against vaccinations but *mandatory* vaccinations. They said that their people were adults and could decide for themselves.

Vaccines Driving Mutations

[(Anonymous)]

Not sure how many have read this paper by Geert VanDen Bossche. Found no reference to it in this post. I thought it was truly outstanding work. I've read his work before and listened/watched him speak in several videos. I've not seen that much practical immune system knowledge from anyone else. It's a long read but tremendously informative. Most of his work is in highly technical language, but this one seems to have been written for the rest of us.
https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/the-last-post

Re: Vaccines Driving Mutations

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for sharing that!

I've been following GVB and he has some very good points and a great deal of sense that is lacking in the wider scientific community.

The more I've read of his writings, however, the now I've come to realize that he embodies a particular "elder scientist curmudgeon" archetype which is characterized by disagreement with most other scientists including those who share alternative views and obsession with a particular technology as the best route forward. For Linus Pauling in his elder years, this was high-dose vitamin C therapy. For GVB, this is vaccination to activate Natural Killer (NK) cells, which has promise but remains largely hypothetical.

Here are a couple of possible critiques of his claims:

1. He claims that anti-spike antibodies temporarily suppress the innate immune system leading to greater risk of illness. If this were true we should see higher levels of illness in those recently infected or vaccinated, but we don't actually see this.

2. He claims that antibody-resistant mutants that arise in vaccinated people will be more infectious in people with natural immunity as well. How does this fit with data showing that natural immunity is much stronger than vaccine induced immunity? If existing strains are spreading rapidly among the vaccinated population without escaping natural immunity, why would we expect a mutation to arise specifically in the vaccinated population that circumvents both types of immunity?

Mark L

November Book About Dr Fauci / Call to Stop V Mandates

[(Anonymous)]

RFK, Jr is about to bring out a book on Dr Fauci. If it is what I think it is, that is, the documented story of the GOF research and the rat's nest of conflicts of interest with the patents, whoa. This book could be the shove that upends "the narrative" on the vaxxes before the end of this year. It is available for pre-order on amazon et al for November. I have not read it, however, knowing what I already do know about this subject, I am immensely heartened to see this book on the horizon.

The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense) Hardcover – November 9, 2021

RFK Jr runs Childrens Defense Fund, which offers a good free newsletter. https://childrenshealthdefense.org

I am heartened to see this call to stop all mandates
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/take-action/no-vaccine-mandates/


Amber Crispy Brontosaurus

Re: November Book About Dr Fauci / Call to Stop V Mandates

[(Anonymous)]

Iam very surprised that this book has not (yet) been censored. We'll see....

Information About Walk Out Week To Protest the Mandates

[(Anonymous)]

In the US, the Childrens Defense Fund is promoting "Walk Out Week" to protest the vax mandates. There is more information at this link:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/parentrising-sept-13-chd-national-walk-out-week-protest-vaccine-mask-mandates/

"During the week-long event, beginning Sept. 13, parents and educators across the U.S. will engage in peaceful noncompliance activities to remind government officials that individuals should have the final say when it comes to their health."

Vermilion Peevish Yak