Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 5

[ecosophia]

The semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a huge number of comments, so I'm opening another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 

3. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Good evening!

No argument at all with your exasperation at the whole thing. I work in NYC schools though; we are absolutely being mandated.

The scenario at the moment, for anyone interested: They announced vaccine-or-weekly-testing in August, then the instant Pfizer was approved the mayor said nevermind, no testing option and no medical or religious exemptions.

Our (ridiculous) union did fight on the exemptions; it went to arbitration and last week it was ruled that accomodations will be considered for a short list of medical conditions. Religious exemptions are to be considered only for members of "recognized and established religious organizations" with a personal letter from a religious official (no sincerely held personal beliefs as federal law allows).

Any DOE employee who hasn't uploaded proof of vaccination or had an exemption approved by September 27 cannot come to work thereafter. According to the city there are 15,000 teachers, plus I don't know how many other school staff people, who haven't done so. The city says they have enough substitute teachers to replace us.

It has nothing to do with safety, of course, just whether or not you've obeyed. They pretend that only unvaccinated people can transmit the virus. The details of the policies are absurd. We have to fill out a little digital survey every morning before we enter, and when you get to the question about whether you're vaccinated, if you say yes, you're cleared, no further questions. So a teacher I work with was pretty sick with corona just a few days before we went back to work, but he's vaccinated, so he was right in there on on the first day. My wife has a co-worker who's husband is sick and tested positive tonight, but she's negative so far and she's vaccinated, so she'll be in school tomorrow. In both cases, had they not been vaccinated they wouldn't be allowed in.

So I, and a lot of others in the city, will be forbidden to work a few weeks from now, in addition to being already barred from restaurants, indoor events, taking my daughter to gymnastics, etc. Mayor says cops and firemen who don't get vaxxed or tested weekly won't get paid starting tomorrow. He says he's not "yet" considering mandating 12-year-olds like Los Angeles has, but the governor says she might. It's a pretty sorry spectacle. We're watching carefully and thinking through how our family is going to play this, though I expect things to keep changing day by day, one way or another. We'll see. I do know for sure that most of my students have had a difficult two years and will suffer further when they return to a short-staffed school, while some experienced teachers and counselors who want to be there are kept away.

J.

Not approved really

[(Anonymous)]

Look at Chris Martensen's video on peak prosperity about the smoke and mirrors approval which isn't.
Or Viva Barnes.
Viva aka David Freiheit is a YouTuber and former lawyer running for the PPC and Robert Barnes is a very, very smart lawyer.

[stcathalexandria]

Thank you for filling in the details of what was missing from the article I saw. The whole idea that vaccinated workers are going to work after close exposure to those sick with Covid proves again this is all public health theater. The vaccinated are carrying the virus around and spreading it.

Fwiw Philadelphia city schools required the vaccine for teachers over the summer, but the police and fireman are still exempt from requirements right now. Both those departments are already alarmingly understaffed so maybe that is why.

If its any comfort, I'm barred from my one daughter's college campus because I'm not vaccinated. The other daughter so far I'm allowed on but I expect that to change. Other than that in rural PA we are living like its 2019.