Magic Monday
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ecosophia
It's just past midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. With certain exceptions, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note: Any question received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here. Also: I will not be putting through or answering any more questions about practicing magic around children. I've answered those in simple declarative sentences in the FAQ. If you read the FAQ and don't think your question has been answered, read it again. If that doesn't help, consider remedial reading classes; yes, it really is as simple and straightforward as the FAQ says. The image? I'm still tracing my lineage in photographs. At some point after the death of Bishop Shaw, a question arose about the legitimacy of the apostolic succession of the Universal Gnostic Church. John Gilbert arranged to settle the matter in the traditional way by receiving sub conditione consecration from Archbishop Herman Adrian Spruit of the Church of Antioch; that's Archbishop Spruit in the photo. Sub conditione? That's the technical term for a second consecration given to a bishop in case the original one didn't have valid lineage, and Spruit was the man to give it.
He was born in 1911 and started out his religious career as a Methodist minister, but he became convinced that a more sacramental and less dogmatic approach to Christianity was needed, and so he joined the Independent Sacramental Movement and was consecrated as an independent bishop. At that time there were sixteen different lineages of apostolic succession outside the control of the established churches, and squabbles between independent bishops about the validity of the different lines were common. Spruit ended that in an exceptionally graceful way. He arranged to be consecrated sub conditione in all of the lineages, and then conferred the same consecration on any bishop or qualified candidate for the episcopacy who requested it. These days practically every bishop in the Independent Sacramental Movement has all sixteen lines -- yes, including me -- and the squabbles are over. Bishop Spruit's Catholic Apostolic Church of Antioch remains an active independent church, and so do many of the other independent churches who received his blessing.
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Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 05:17 am (UTC)For my fellow Americans, I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving, and for everyone, I hope that you are looking forward to good things this winter as we head to the close of the year.
To Share: Given our host's announcement of his new book The Ceremony of the Grail, I thought I'd share a bit of interesting lore/speculation linking the Runes with the Grail tradition. In an appendix in Alu: An Advanced Guide to Operative Runology, Edred Thorsson (Stephen Flowers), shares his theory that the three Anglo-Frisian runes Calc ("chalice"), Stan ("stone"), and Gar ("spear") represent some of the key elements of the grail myth/ritual complex. Eirik Westcoat includes some poetry inspired by/created as part of his own work with the this intersection of symbolism in Eagle's Mead.
To Ask: For JMG and anyone in the commentariat who might have thoughts: I've been doing the Solar Plexus exercise given in the Way of the Golden Section and Dolmen Arch daily now for a while and a starting to feel like it's doing me some good. That has me wondering if there is any similar exercise targeting the heart center? Specifically, anything aimed at opening/unblocking the heart center that's compatible with DMH/DA work, preferably with some kind of physical component.
As always, thanks very much to our host and all the other wonderful folks here.
To any who will have them, I put forth my blessings and best wishes,
Jeff
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 05:25 am (UTC)2) I'm sorry to say I'm not familiar with one. I'm still piecing together the rest of the system in which the solar plexus exercise has an important basic role!
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 06:10 am (UTC)I would be very surprised to find that such an exercise exists for the heart. The heart appears to open up naturally as a byproduct of working with the solar plexus. Developing kindness and compassion are the favored techniques for that in Tibetan Buddhism. Meditations on the subject would fit nicely with the DA (I can't speak to WGS, I haven't purchased a copy yet), as would spending time trying to observe the heart and sensations relating to circulation. I haven't gotten to the 3-cauldrons yet, but I imagine that the solar cauldron would do a good job opening up the heart. There is a similar Neidan exercise explicitly for that purpose.
Hopefully this is of use, I know it isn't exactly what you were asking for.
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 06:58 pm (UTC)As for the 3 Cauldrons, I am also not there yet, but luckily, as anonymous below points out, the center cauldron is actually at heart rather than the solar plexus, which is a detail I also missed until I asked an inadequately-reviewed question a few weeks ago. So I'll have that as part of my practice when I get to it, but I've purposely been taking things slow and steady.
Cheers,
Jeff
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 05:03 pm (UTC)Unsure about compatibility with the DMH/DA, but I would have thought the Cauldron of the Sun, which is located at the heart, which is included in the Three Cauldrons ritual would actually be an exercise to work with the heart?
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 07:02 pm (UTC)And yes, I believe the Three Cauldrons work will certainly help, but I have not gotten to incorporating them just yet, and I have been using the structured curriculum as an excuse to combat my natural tendency to race ahead on things.
Cheers,
Jeff
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 07:13 pm (UTC)Funny, Jeff, you asked the reverse question of mine last week (I said I was more familiar with heart-centered ways of knowing, rather than solar-plexus-centered ones and asked for solar plexus reading materials). :D
Re: Runes and the Grail, Heart Center Exercise Question
Date: 2022-11-28 09:08 pm (UTC)And again, it sounds like I need to give Buhner some serious consideration, thank you for the further recommendation.
Cheers,
Jeff
An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:21 am (UTC)Do you have any thoughts or advice for dealing with a family member who has at least gotten into Satanism, and may also be practicing malefic magic?
Their presence is now suitably foul that two daily SoP's weren't adequate to keep the area around me clean when I had to deal with them over Thanksgiving. I have a couple of BICOE measures, but they feel extreme enough that I'm hesitant to resort to them.
How seriously should a problem like this be taken?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:29 am (UTC)Er, what does BICOE mean?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:40 am (UTC)Is it possible to sever the astral connection to a sibling?
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Date: 2022-11-28 05:44 am (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:00 am (UTC)I'm quite confident that putting more distance between me and my sibling is going to unleash an enormous amount of chaos and conflict in my family.
Would you recommend the same boundaries for somebody who freely associates with them but hasn't gone that far (at least not yet)?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:19 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 09:54 pm (UTC)By very seriously; that means that this is the sort of problem that can easily cause several incarnations worth of trouble, and dealing with it is an overriding concern?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-29 02:46 am (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:17 pm (UTC)Auch.
And does it work for them? Meaning, does such a path make progress in the evolution of their beings? I would say no, but I am catholic, and also polytheist so naturally I now know that things from the outside can seem like contradictions. For example, Bon Buddhist I think somehow incorporated Dakinis and all into their cosmology and magic even though it seems the Buddha opposed such things and still works very well for them.
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:26 pm (UTC)As for people who get into Satanism, they're messing themselves over in a big way. It's not permanent, but they're going to spend a lot of lives clawing their way out of the karmic pit they dig for themselves.
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 11:08 pm (UTC)1) Ok, so I was right about that one, it does go against the flow of spiritual evolution. I am going through a phase where I am having to calibrate my judgement about many things, (and dropping it entirely on others where accurate judgment and knowledge isn't possible for me rn) so this is helpful!
So that basically makes Satanists the contrarians by excellence. I've always thought that Satanists feel very attached to (and thus strongly reject as a response) God and Christianity while thinking it is something different.
2) And thanks for the other info too! I don't know why I had the idea that Bon was Buddhist, perhaps given its similarities, but a quick search suggests that it is pre-buddhist, while using elements from Buddhism.
Regarding demons, I didn't know they were smarter than us, I have heard you say it but hadn't put thought into it, it makes sense, they must've had much more time to use their intelligence than we have while they wait for their time of final redemption.
I have a cautionary tale about the silly-little-human. A well intentioned and actually talented African magician from Cameroon came to me (I don't know how) begging me to please help him because he offered several fluids to demons in offering. I don't think his magic worked but the act brought a nasty obsessive vortex that basically begged spirits to mess with his mind. He is gullible and books convinced him.
I did a divination for him and just by that rapport I got nausea. When I prayed for him (with his permission of course) the lights of my car went out and dogs started barking at me when I got out of the car... Fortunately I did a banishing on the spot with force and then I got birds singinging. So not even helping people attacked by demons without proper guidance and training is recommended. Albeit, prayer worked well, he is doing better, but I got tangled with him and his non-sense for a few weeks listening to him confessing in guilt and looking for guidance on how to do magic safely. (Since I am no expert, I directed him to your FHR material, I hope that is okay?)
fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 01:08 am (UTC)Reading your comment made me think of a certain deceased Druid who has been disowned and denounced by his former organization. Since he joined the Church of Satan for a period in his youth, on an "I'm just investigating and larking about" basis, I could not help but wonder whether it contributed to his later problems, both personal and organizational.
I know that CoS claims not to believe in an actual being called Satan. However, considering the disastrous ends of some of the members, such as actress Jane Mansfield, I tend to think that "silly little humans" may not have recognized that they had created a live connection to that entity. Since I did consider this person a friend during the time he was in the Bay Area, I wonder whether I should add some prayers for his future progress to my practice. If so, what sort, what frequency, candles, etc. might be most effective. I am Wiccan but do not confine my practice to Wiccan deities.
Rita
Re: fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 02:48 am (UTC)Re: fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 04:59 am (UTC)It was scary what I mentioned in my above comment, for as much as I was able to stop it, it did affect me for a couple days, at least in the sense that it gave me the jitters. Divination suggested all was fine (and that I was reckless). No more praying for things other than blessings outside a magically protected space! I had no idea prayer could do that, but it seems it does... and it makes sense, since it was me who was doing the praying.
How does a magically protected space prevent from the interest to be raised? Are pestering things unable to see within it and thus when you close you are untraceable or is it that the energy of the magically protected space makes them want to run away?
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Date: 2022-11-29 05:05 am (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:43 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 10:19 pm (UTC)For the last part I would recommend the book How to pray the Rosary: and get results by Brother ADA. It has an effective method to use the Rosary for petition by slightly modifying the wording of the prayer. The author of the book (Agostino Taumaturgo) offers live Mass for specific intentions, but they are over facepalm-live still given that's where most of the people that read him are.
Re: An oddity and a problem.
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Date: 2022-11-28 05:30 am (UTC)Many, many thanks for your patience and encouragement!
And – if you don’t mind a digression into writing – I finally realized the setting isn’t in the Haliverse, and things took off once I discovered there never was a grand conspiracy, and the Elder Gods handed off the works to younger ones right on schedule.
Oh, wait… I just created the Younger Gods, didn’t I?
Rhydlyd
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Date: 2022-11-28 05:41 am (UTC)2) No, actually, the Younger Gods wanted to come into existence, so they created you to do all the work of creating them. ;-)
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Date: 2022-11-28 08:55 pm (UTC)2 - Oh! That makes perfect sense!!! Back to writing.
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:49 am (UTC)How do we find which planets rule which charities?
Date: 2022-11-28 08:15 pm (UTC)Thanks.
Re: How do we find which planets rule which charities?
Date: 2022-11-28 09:04 pm (UTC)https://www.renaissanceastrology.com/planetarycharity.html
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Date: 2022-11-28 05:43 am (UTC)This includes someone who is incredibly nasty and abusive, and spends a great deal of time complaining about various problems, usually to someone who is not responsible for the issue; dealing with him leaves a lot of us in exceedingly foul moods, even going above and beyond what seems reasonable given what he says or does. I've come to suspect that he is transferring his frustration into other people, which you've said before is a common occurrence.
A few days ago, I went to work at the other location, since several people had called in sick over there. I happened to know that the terrible manager would not be there, and in fact would be at the store I normally worked at, which was part of why I decided to go over there, a decision I fairly quickly regretted.
On the physical level, the store is nice enough; in fact, it has a better layout than the one I normally work with, but it felt toxic in a way which is hard to describe. The atmosphere of the store felt off somehow, in a way which left me feeling very uncomfortable and unusually irritable the entire time I was there.
The people who work there tend to be either very new, or exceptionally foul and unpleasant people; there is apparently a very high rate of turnover for staff there, with most people who are competent and/or pleasant leaving within a few months of getting a job there, leaving behind the core of exceedingly foul and unpleasant people, who do the absolute minimum needed to get by. The food, which is the same as at the store I usually work at, also tasted off somehow, in a way I'm not sure I can explain.
Finally, the location also has a lot of problems with people getting sick, at far higher rates than the store I normally work at; this is part of why I'd never met any of the people who worked at the other location before I went over there.
Does this sound like what I was sensing was that the inner plane environment in that store has gone septic, possibly as a result of having had that abusive manager pouring out his frustration into the environment there since he started working there around 40 years ago?
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:03 am (UTC)This, however, makes a lot of sense, since he's still affected by the environment he's in, just like anyone else; and the more septic it gets, the more and more miserable he feels, just like everyone else around him. This, of course, means that the more negative energies he pushes out into the environment, the more negative energy he has to deal with, and so he's stewing in a toxic mess of his own making....
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Date: 2022-11-28 08:04 pm (UTC)b) Would whatever issues the staff had that either drew them there or occurred as a result of working there end up manifesting at the other locations you sent them to, if you chose that option?
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:06 pm (UTC)2) Not if you distributed them among various locations, each of which already had its own egregor (i.e., group culture). They'd be drawn into that egregor instead.
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:13 pm (UTC)Heavy duty cleaning, fresh management, and a grand re-opening sound wonderful.
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:27 pm (UTC)*sigh*
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Date: 2022-11-29 03:24 am (UTC)b) Why would it be necessary to redecorate?
c) I will be receiving a fairly substantial inheritance, and am considering using some of the money to buy a few local restaurants off their current owner, one of which has similar issues to the above. The restaurant itself is in an ideal location, and so should fairly easily become highly profitable if the toxic energies are cleared.
Cleaning it energetically would require skills well beyond what I have, so do you know how to find people who would be both willing and able to assist with this? If this goes through, I would be willing to pay generously for the help with sorting this out, but don't know where to look.
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Date: 2022-11-29 03:54 am (UTC)2) That's another way to disrupt the old egregor.
3) Most clergy of any faith can do a good solid blessing. If you belong to a religion, have your minister, priest, rabbi, etc. come by and take care of it. If you don't, talk to family members or friends and see if they can recommend someone.
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:00 pm (UTC)Is it possible to strengthen a bond with such a gift?
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Date: 2022-11-28 11:23 pm (UTC)-Translucent Jejune Octopus
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:25 am (UTC)In reviewing my work in the Dolmen Arch there is an exercise in Gradd Yr Athroniwr for awakening the palm centers and drawing nwyfre from the material elements. Are there any cautions in doing it as a regular, say weekly or more frequent, practice?
When I used to do energetic work with people, years ago, my most effective hand placement was about 2 feet distance from the physical body. I gather that is likely the distance one would find the astral body. If true what might have been going on in these sessions? I thought I was "running energy" but now wonder if there was some other kind of interaction happening at an astral level.
My meditation practice is stirring a strong desire for more symbols to contemplate more often. While it seems I have decades worth of material from the DA, tarot, and Occult Philosophy Workbook are there any cautions about choosing other material for meditation?
Also, your writing about writing is immensely helpful.
Thanks,
Eric
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:36 pm (UTC)2) That's fascinating. Your etheric body may also be on the large side -- some people have etheric bodies that extend out further than others -- and so you may have needed the space for your etheric body to stretch a bit.
3) Nope. I've meditated on the most absurd and outrageous things with good results.
4) Glad to hear it!
Sacred Geometry, Divination and Meditation
Date: 2022-11-28 07:49 am (UTC)I have something I'd like to both share ask:
I started working through your Sacred Geometry oracle, and am having a lot of fun. Yesterday I was meditating about the line, but forgot to restrict it to a 2d plane, so everything started spinning and since my head has no gravity I quickly lost my orientation. But then I started imagining the line from the point of view of the points, which gave me some stability, so I was able to choose a 3rd point to make a plane. This allowed me to finish the meditation. My questions are:
1. I was aware for a long time there used to be traditions that allowed people to visualize complex geometry, even things we should not be able to see such as 4 dimensional structures. I read somewhere you are not a particularly visual person, but I was wondering if you know if the know how of such advanced meditative techniques still exist in an accessible form? I think your book will provide an excellent introduction, but I would love to go into 3, and even 4d one day.
2. I bought your book mainly for the exercises and meditations, but the cards hold some appeal for be being Jewish, because the tarot deck contains too much imaginary for me to be comfortable with, unlike your cards with the abstract geometry. My question is, if someone struggles with procrastination, could practicing divination be helpful?
Re: Sacred Geometry, Divination and Meditation
Date: 2022-11-28 06:46 pm (UTC)https://archive.org/details/aprimerhighersp00braggoog
https://archive.org/details/fourdimensional00braggoog
2) Nope. I've seen people procrastinate their heads off about divinations! If you want to stop procrastinating, it's simple. First, use journaling to figure out why you like to play that game with yourself -- because it is a game, of course; it's something you choose to do, and can choose to stop doing. Second, stop doing it. When you need to decide something, decide it -- using a coin toss if you have to -- and go ahead with it. As a rule, that you decide is more important than what you decide: any decision is better than no decision at all.
Very oftem people take up procrastination because one or both of their parents routinely put them in double-binds where no matter what they did, it was wrong. If that's what's going on here, bringing those double-binds back up into consciousness is a good way to shake off the habit, because as an adult you can realize what you couldn't realize as a child: you didn't do anything wrong. It was the parent in question who was being a jerk.
Re: Sacred Geometry, Divination and Meditation
Date: 2022-11-28 06:51 pm (UTC)Re: Sacred Geometry, Divination and Meditation
Date: 2022-11-28 09:10 pm (UTC)This was my situation.
Plus when I was in elementary school, if I got my work done early, the teacher gave me more work to do. I didn't even realize that as an adult I was playing the procrastination game with myself because of that too.
And then there's that enjoyment of the adrenaline rush of finishing things heroically at the last minute that I also enjoyed.
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Date: 2022-11-28 07:50 am (UTC)What exactly is an intiation? Why does it require specific rituals, symbols, or experiences?
Re: Qs
Date: 2022-11-28 06:48 pm (UTC)Re: Qs
Date: 2022-11-28 07:23 pm (UTC)-Justin Patrick Moore
Scarlet Squamous Opossum
An inspired path
Date: 2022-11-28 10:28 am (UTC)I appreciate your time as this is a bit long-winded.
I've dedicated much of my life to an art, or some might call it a craft. A few years ago this practice led me to an awakening. I had worked for a long time to improve my abilities but always felt something eluded me. I went down many seldom-traveled paths, trying to find answers to my questions but for a long time every possible solution vanished like a mirage as I approached.
Eventually I went far down an obscure route paved by great practicioners from before. It appeared promising but I found that the path appeared to lead to a dead end. I had gone to one of the furthest, deepest places and found nothing. But then I realized a peculiar commonality between the distant place where I was and the place where my journey began, and at that moment I had an epiphany.
You could call it an encounter with the higher self, the genius, the holy guardian angel. That's the best way I can categorize it. In an instant I understood my art in its totality, along with the reasons for the difficulties I had and the path that I might take to overcome them. When I had this experience I knew that the road to the place I want to go will be long and hard, but that I now have a "North Star" I can follow to get there.
My question to you is: what types of magical practice make sense for me? The spiritual path I find myself on is idiosyncratic and individual - established religions and societies have never particularly appealed to me; they all feel like something made to fit someone else. These personal experiences have resonated with me much more than any "brand-name" deities and I seem to draw power from this genius the way that people describe petitioning gods. For example, when I'm attuned to the higher self and following its guidance I have effectively infinite motivation and can make sustained efforts that shock other people, who ask how I haven't collapsed. I've intuited that what I have isn't simply an inspiration but "sponsorship" from something that has some degree of ego and conscious purpose. As to the nature of this "sponsor" I can only guess.
So how does one get more in tune with an anonymous higher power? Do you suppose that's what I've encountered, or am I just drawing on deeper reserves of my own energy than I thought I had? Established gods and religions have methods for working with them to affect change, but in this case I'm flying blind although I have the great boon of a "sponsor" that I have a high natural affinity for. How can I advance toward the level of understanding of someone who knows the identity and history of the power they're appealing to?
Thanks again for reading.
Re: An inspired path
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Date: 2022-11-29 02:49 am (UTC)Judson Exercise: numbers; planetary correspondence for peace
Date: 2022-11-28 10:52 am (UTC)Two questions today, if I may:
1. Judson Exercise
The numbers of turns in the Judson exercise, have they simply been determined by experience ("this works best")? Or is it a somewhat random matter how often one turns, potentially as long as certain rules are adhered to (e.g. as long as the clockwise turns outnumber the anti-clockwise)? Or is there some occult symbolism behind the specific numbers?
2. Planetary correspondence for peace
While several planets cover aspects which are important for peace (Venus, the Sun, Jupiter coming to mind), I have yet to see a clear planetary correspondence for peace spelled out somewhere, just like Mars usually is for war.
On the other hand, one would think that this correspondence is featured front and center, since having somebody to petition for peace would be at least as pressing as having somebody to petition for war. ;-)
Have people been turning to Mars for peace as well as for war? Is peace simply too complex an issue to be ruled by any one planet? Or what am I missing?
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Re: Judson Exercise: numbers; planetary correspondence for peace
Date: 2022-11-28 04:19 pm (UTC)Re: Judson Exercise: numbers; planetary correspondence for peace
Date: 2022-11-28 06:56 pm (UTC)https://archive.org/details/developmentofmed00juds
https://archive.org/details/BridgeBetweenTwoWorlds
-- and they don't say.
2) I've always used Venus to represent peace in magical workings, with good effect. Of course your mileage may vary.
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Date: 2022-11-28 11:32 am (UTC)How easy is it to do this? Does this principle apply to situations such as prayers or affirmations?
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Date: 2022-11-28 06:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2022-11-28 08:14 pm (UTC)Back in 2020, some friends and I got funding to put together a performance that was intended to be an homage to Venus/Aphrodite with a Greco-Buddhist tint. It was ambitious and fell through, for various reasons, but I played a solo musical set with a song I dedicated to Venus.
Now, I was hoping that it would improve my romantic life, and sometime around then, I met a woman who showed a strong interest in me. Unfortunately, this was a few weeks before the beginning of the lockdowns, and as I was living with family who were initially taking the virus quite seriously, this romantic interest did not really go anywhere beyond a phone conversation and a "let's meet up when this all blows over" (2 weeks to flatten the curve, yeah right LOL).
It's a bit of complicated one, because it wasn't exactly as if I turned down the opportunity, but I didn't exactly go out of my way to step up to the occasion either, for circumstantial reasons. I am concerned I may have offended Venus - is there a way I could make it up to her? Perhaps planetary charity, or asking Mercury to intercede on my behalf?
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-28 10:19 pm (UTC)planetary charity question
Date: 2022-11-28 12:15 pm (UTC)I understand that I make a set number of donations corresponding to the planet and put them in the mail at the hour/day of that planet.
But how do I start the process at the outset? Do I pray to or invoke the planet and ask for help/blessings with my petition? Do I repeat my petition after that or just do it the first time?
Thank you.
Re: planetary charity question
Date: 2022-11-28 07:07 pm (UTC)celebrating the winter solstice
Date: 2022-11-28 12:20 pm (UTC)I am wondering if you (and anyone else who is so inspired) might offer some simple suggestions for celebrating the winter solstice in a family context.
Thank you.
Re: celebrating the winter solstice
Date: 2022-11-28 04:51 pm (UTC)I don't know what the policy here is, for adding links to our comments. If my link doesn't come through, you can find this article by searching for my website "HeathenSoulLore.net" and then looking for "Ideas for Celebrating Heathen Yule" in the list on the right sidebar.
https://heathensoullore.net/ideas-for-celebrating-heathen-yule/
I hope you and your family and everyone here enjoys a beautiful Yuletide season!
Winifred Hodge Rose
Re: celebrating the winter solstice
Date: 2022-11-28 09:31 pm (UTC)One further custom that can fit the extended Yuletide that my household has been practicing some years now: on New Years Eve, we build a fire and we hand out cards to anyone joining us. On the cards, we write down anything we want to let go of as the year closes, and maybe things that we want to bring forward into the new year, and then we put the card in the fire. Everyone is free to share what they wrote, or not.
Cheers,
Jeff
Re: celebrating the winter solstice
Date: 2022-11-28 07:12 pm (UTC)Second, a hearty meal is always a good way to celebrate anything.
Third, anything that relates to winter is a good thing to put into your solstice celebration.
Re: celebrating the winter solstice
Date: 2022-11-29 04:15 am (UTC)Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-28 12:25 pm (UTC)Anyway, what I wanted to ask you about was this-- reading through Book 3, I can't help but see the Tree of Life in everything I'm reading. Proclus tells us that the One Itself is beyond being, and is not the head of a Triad-- this is the Unmanifest. Immediately following the One are the Three Intelligible Triads, the first of which is also, at least sort of, beyond being. Each triad is characterized according to Being, Power, and Intellect-- or, alternatively, the Limit, the Infinite, and the Mixed. The latter terms characterize the triads respectively themselves as well as the 3 terms within the triad.
Now, what I'm wondering is this. I know that Proclus influenced your own thinking a great deal, and my own understanding of the Tree of Life is heavily informed by The Celtic Golden Dawn and Paths of Wisdom. But it seems to me that if I were a student, trying to come up with some visual way of representing these ideas, I would draw something more or less identical to the Tree of Life, with Malkuth as the world dangling off of the end of the Three Triads which precede it, and which themselves emerge from the unknowable One. I'm honestly wondering if that isn't exactly where it comes from. What do you think?
Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-28 07:21 pm (UTC)Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-28 07:50 pm (UTC)I've read a bit of Origen and none of Celsus-- can you point me to where to find their discussions of the Tree?
Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-28 09:09 pm (UTC)Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-28 09:39 pm (UTC)Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-28 10:06 pm (UTC)Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-29 02:21 am (UTC)Ok, clearly it's time to read Origen. Thank you!
Re: Proclus and Cabala
Date: 2022-11-29 03:00 am (UTC)SOP
Date: 2022-11-28 01:26 pm (UTC)Re: SOP
Date: 2022-11-28 07:22 pm (UTC)Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-28 01:40 pm (UTC)Related question, I know some occultists and others assert that all souls are eventually supposed to get to our level and beyond, even those that are now just bacteria. But we could not live on this planet to experience growth if there were not plants to eat, bacteria to break down waste, etc. Doesn't this make it inevitable that when the last sentient beings to live before the Earth's destruction are living, there must also still be plants and bacteria, which won't get the chance to progress to intelligent life? Has anyone speculated about what will happen to them?
Thanks very much for tolerating weird questions!
-Translucent Jejune Octopus
Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-28 04:18 pm (UTC)Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-28 07:30 pm (UTC)All life lives on death. Every living thing feeds on the bodies of the dead; even plants send their roots in search of nutrients from the bodies of dead animals and plants. That's not a bad thing -- it's an essential glimpse into the nature of reality. "All things have died so that you might live." The food chain that ecologists talk about is a marvel of mercy: each of us gets to eat so many times, and only has to be eaten once! So when you eat a plant or an animal, give thanks to the being who gave its life for you; when you harvest a plant or slaughter an animal, make it as gentle and clean an act as possible -- knowing all along that you will eventually be harvested and eaten by Nature, too.
2) You're assuming that this is the only planet there is, in the only solar system there is. Those beings who can't complete the process of evolution in one world can do it in another.
Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-28 08:36 pm (UTC)Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-28 11:30 pm (UTC)-Translucent Jejune Octopus
Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-29 12:58 am (UTC)And I suspect that by the time you as a soul have made it to the point where you actually do have to deal with cosmic matters on a day-to-day basis, you've passed into (possibly beyond) Gwynfydd and no longer have nor need a physical body... nor, for that matter, physical radio transmission.
Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-29 02:54 am (UTC)It's a big universe out there. Fortunately, we've got countless aeons of time to explore it.
Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-28 10:47 pm (UTC)(I'm not sure it's common, mind - I actually wouldn't be surprised if the advent of new divine sparks ceases before a planet becomes uninhabitable and the remaining souls of plants/animals/unicellular organisms are souls reincarnating in lower forms as the souls who are going to complete the evolution process basically evaporate off, either into Gwynfedd or by finding the gates between worlds, nor would I be surprised if the former is much more frequent. But it should be possible.)
- pretentious_username
Re: Being Kind to Plants
Date: 2022-11-29 02:55 am (UTC)Frequent reader but infrequent poster here
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Date: 2022-11-28 09:21 pm (UTC)Question about the role of Time in the "Occult Philosophy" process
Date: 2022-11-28 03:24 pm (UTC)Where does Time figure in this conception? Is it a spatial attribute of a particular plane? I'm curious about both subjective and objective Time in this picture.
In my meditations on this question, I get the image of the divine spark as a needle, trailing a thread behind it, which is Time. (I see other threads, too, but am asking about this one now.) As this spark heads through the planes, 'down' and then 'up', forming its bodies, it brings this thread of Time along with it, creating an apparent time-loop.
The Being-Spark's experiences of Time are both colored by and collected along the thread, which feels linear as it goes through the planes, but circular once the time-loop is connected back to itself upon return to the Divine plane.
If this is the case, this seems more like subjective than objective Time. Maybe objective Time is part of the larger cycles of the cosmos, perhaps shaped into a similar line-and-then-loop as the great beings taking part in these larger cycles pursue their activities?
Thank you for your thoughts, and all your writing!
Winifred Hodge Rose
Re: Question about the role of Time in the "Occult Philosophy" process
Date: 2022-11-28 07:34 pm (UTC)Re: Question about the role of Time in the "Occult Philosophy" process
Date: 2022-11-28 08:27 pm (UTC)Entropy is also ‘a thing,’ and I assume takes place in Time, whether or not there are observers of it—another possible example of objective time.
It seems as though when souls proceed along the objective route from the material back to the divine planes, the objectivity they gain might also apply to a different understanding of time, which is intriguing!
Thanks again,
Winifred Hodge Rose
Question on cannabis
Date: 2022-11-28 03:38 pm (UTC)I saw you mention in a post that you think cannabis can hinder someone's magical development. I was wondering if you could elaborate on this. I currently use edibles for pain reasons, although the dosage I take would be considered a micro dose, basically enough to take the pain away but not so much as to make me stoned and non functional. I wasn't sure whether your statement had to do with lack of awareness, in which case the dosage might be a factor, or whether cannabis itself has some properties that you think can hinder someone's abilities.
Re: Question on cannabis
Date: 2022-11-28 07:35 pm (UTC)Karma and promises
Date: 2022-11-28 04:15 pm (UTC)Hello JMG, I have a question about promises and karma. A couple years ago I became reacquainted with a friend after decades apart. She asked me to make promises, such as keeping in touch, which I did. After a few months of spending time together, I realized that she is full of qualities I do not want anywhere near me. Eventually I decided that I need to keep this toxic person out of my life for my health and sanity, and have been gradually backing away. Even though this person lied to me, and manipulated me, I expect karmic consequences for not keeping my promises. I have prayed about the matter, explaining my side of things to God and asking to be released from the promises, but don't know what the answer is. Do you have any advice for a person in this situation?
Re: Karma and promises
Date: 2022-11-28 07:42 pm (UTC)Re: Karma and promises
Date: 2022-11-28 09:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-11-28 05:09 pm (UTC)Newbie to the Golden Section Fellowship here, with some questions:
1. Do single celled organisms have souls, according to occult theory? Where would they fit in the soul’s developmental cycle, if so?
2. I have been experiencing the number 13 very, very frequently in synchronicities over the past year (other numbers too, but 13 is by far the most frequent). I’m not too familiar with numerology (though I have done some reading on my own), do you have any general advice on how to interpret this number?
3. Is the SoP adequate to protect against most kinds of curses if I ever suspect I’m being targeted or are there other measures that should be taken?
4. Recently I came down with a sickness and lost the use of my voice. I assume in this case it’s fine (though not as effective obviously) to do the invocations in the SoP nonverbally?
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Date: 2022-11-28 07:46 pm (UTC)2) Synchronicities like this usually have some reference to things in your own life, imagination, or thinking. If you haven't already, try doing journaling on the number and see if you can figure out what it's trying to say to you.
3) It's quite adequate for that purpose. That's one of the reasons I've made a point of teaching it so widely.
4) Yes, that's fine. Imagine that your voice is as loud as usual -- that helps with silent practices.
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Date: 2022-11-28 05:57 pm (UTC)You often counsel against mixing techniques from different traditions.
Some years ago, in a book on Chinese medicine, I came across simple techniques to improve energy flow by daily gentle physical massage of the liver and kidneys, and remember finding them effective. Is there a risk of such techniques interfering with GD-type work?
Thanks you.
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