Magic Monday
Nov. 27th, 2022 11:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

The image? I'm still tracing my lineage in photographs. At some point after the death of Bishop Shaw, a question arose about the legitimacy of the apostolic succession of the Universal Gnostic Church. John Gilbert arranged to settle the matter in the traditional way by receiving sub conditione consecration from Archbishop Herman Adrian Spruit of the Church of Antioch; that's Archbishop Spruit in the photo. Sub conditione? That's the technical term for a second consecration given to a bishop in case the original one didn't have valid lineage, and Spruit was the man to give it.
He was born in 1911 and started out his religious career as a Methodist minister, but he became convinced that a more sacramental and less dogmatic approach to Christianity was needed, and so he joined the Independent Sacramental Movement and was consecrated as an independent bishop. At that time there were sixteen different lineages of apostolic succession outside the control of the established churches, and squabbles between independent bishops about the validity of the different lines were common. Spruit ended that in an exceptionally graceful way. He arranged to be consecrated sub conditione in all of the lineages, and then conferred the same consecration on any bishop or qualified candidate for the episcopacy who requested it. These days practically every bishop in the Independent Sacramental Movement has all sixteen lines -- yes, including me -- and the squabbles are over. Bishop Spruit's Catholic Apostolic Church of Antioch remains an active independent church, and so do many of the other independent churches who received his blessing.
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Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:29 am (UTC)Er, what does BICOE mean?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:40 am (UTC)Is it possible to sever the astral connection to a sibling?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:44 am (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:00 am (UTC)I'm quite confident that putting more distance between me and my sibling is going to unleash an enormous amount of chaos and conflict in my family.
Would you recommend the same boundaries for somebody who freely associates with them but hasn't gone that far (at least not yet)?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:19 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 09:54 pm (UTC)By very seriously; that means that this is the sort of problem that can easily cause several incarnations worth of trouble, and dealing with it is an overriding concern?
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-29 02:46 am (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:17 pm (UTC)Auch.
And does it work for them? Meaning, does such a path make progress in the evolution of their beings? I would say no, but I am catholic, and also polytheist so naturally I now know that things from the outside can seem like contradictions. For example, Bon Buddhist I think somehow incorporated Dakinis and all into their cosmology and magic even though it seems the Buddha opposed such things and still works very well for them.
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:26 pm (UTC)As for people who get into Satanism, they're messing themselves over in a big way. It's not permanent, but they're going to spend a lot of lives clawing their way out of the karmic pit they dig for themselves.
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 11:08 pm (UTC)1) Ok, so I was right about that one, it does go against the flow of spiritual evolution. I am going through a phase where I am having to calibrate my judgement about many things, (and dropping it entirely on others where accurate judgment and knowledge isn't possible for me rn) so this is helpful!
So that basically makes Satanists the contrarians by excellence. I've always thought that Satanists feel very attached to (and thus strongly reject as a response) God and Christianity while thinking it is something different.
2) And thanks for the other info too! I don't know why I had the idea that Bon was Buddhist, perhaps given its similarities, but a quick search suggests that it is pre-buddhist, while using elements from Buddhism.
Regarding demons, I didn't know they were smarter than us, I have heard you say it but hadn't put thought into it, it makes sense, they must've had much more time to use their intelligence than we have while they wait for their time of final redemption.
I have a cautionary tale about the silly-little-human. A well intentioned and actually talented African magician from Cameroon came to me (I don't know how) begging me to please help him because he offered several fluids to demons in offering. I don't think his magic worked but the act brought a nasty obsessive vortex that basically begged spirits to mess with his mind. He is gullible and books convinced him.
I did a divination for him and just by that rapport I got nausea. When I prayed for him (with his permission of course) the lights of my car went out and dogs started barking at me when I got out of the car... Fortunately I did a banishing on the spot with force and then I got birds singinging. So not even helping people attacked by demons without proper guidance and training is recommended. Albeit, prayer worked well, he is doing better, but I got tangled with him and his non-sense for a few weeks listening to him confessing in guilt and looking for guidance on how to do magic safely. (Since I am no expert, I directed him to your FHR material, I hope that is okay?)
fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 01:08 am (UTC)Reading your comment made me think of a certain deceased Druid who has been disowned and denounced by his former organization. Since he joined the Church of Satan for a period in his youth, on an "I'm just investigating and larking about" basis, I could not help but wonder whether it contributed to his later problems, both personal and organizational.
I know that CoS claims not to believe in an actual being called Satan. However, considering the disastrous ends of some of the members, such as actress Jane Mansfield, I tend to think that "silly little humans" may not have recognized that they had created a live connection to that entity. Since I did consider this person a friend during the time he was in the Bay Area, I wonder whether I should add some prayers for his future progress to my practice. If so, what sort, what frequency, candles, etc. might be most effective. I am Wiccan but do not confine my practice to Wiccan deities.
Rita
Re: fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 02:48 am (UTC)Re: fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 04:59 am (UTC)It was scary what I mentioned in my above comment, for as much as I was able to stop it, it did affect me for a couple days, at least in the sense that it gave me the jitters. Divination suggested all was fine (and that I was reckless). No more praying for things other than blessings outside a magically protected space! I had no idea prayer could do that, but it seems it does... and it makes sense, since it was me who was doing the praying.
How does a magically protected space prevent from the interest to be raised? Are pestering things unable to see within it and thus when you close you are untraceable or is it that the energy of the magically protected space makes them want to run away?
Re: fooling with Satanism
Date: 2022-11-29 05:05 am (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 05:48 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 06:29 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 09:22 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 09:43 pm (UTC)Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 10:19 pm (UTC)For the last part I would recommend the book How to pray the Rosary: and get results by Brother ADA. It has an effective method to use the Rosary for petition by slightly modifying the wording of the prayer. The author of the book (Agostino Taumaturgo) offers live Mass for specific intentions, but they are over facepalm-live still given that's where most of the people that read him are.
Re: An oddity and a problem.
Date: 2022-11-28 10:42 pm (UTC)