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ecosophia
Several weeks ago I posted a set of guidelines for those of my readers interested in helping with an exploration of one of the stranger corners of alternative healing, the cell salt protocol created by Dr. George Washington Carey. I was delighted to find a great many people interested in that project, and so the experiment is under way. (If you missed that post and want to help out, it's still open -- click on the link above for the details. At this point, since many people will have been following the protocol for some weeks now, I want to provide a place for initial reports of any effects that have come up, and I also want to start explaining the theory behind the protocol. That theory involves several disparate fields, and we'll take them one at a time.
Carey, as I noted in the earlier post, was a physician who used the biochemic cell salts -- homeopathic preparations of the twelve mineral salts that occur in the human body in non-microscopic quantities. He was also an astrologer. (Those two fields of study used to go together very often -- Nicholas Culpeper, whose medicinal herbal remains in common use today, was also a crackerjack astrologer.) Carey noticed in the course of his work in both fields that there seemed to be a specific correlation between the 12 cell salts and the sun's passage through the 12 signs of the zodiac. In his first publications on the subject, based on the data he'd collected up to that point, he assigned each cell salt to a sign as follows:
Aries: Kali phos (potassium phosphate)
Taurus: Natrum sulph (sodium sulphate)
Gemini: Kali mur (potassium chloride)
Cancer: Calc fluor (calcium fluoride)
Leo: Mag phos (magnesium phosphate)
Virgo: Kali sulph (potassium sulphate)
Libra: Nat phos (sodium phosphate)
Scorpio: Calc sulph (calcium sulphate)
Sagittarius: Silicea (silicon dioxide)
Capricorn: Calc phos (calcium phosphate)
Aquarius: Nat mur (sodium chloride)
Pisces: Ferrum phos (iron phosphate)
The interesting thing about these correspondences is that they do in fact work well with the traditional symbolism of the zodiacal signs. Specifically, you take each cell salt to make your body more like the sign -- for example, many conditions that are improved by warmth are improved by Mag phos, the warm and fiery Leo salt, while many of those that need moisture and cooling are helped by Ferrum phos, the cell salt of cold and wet Pisces.
As he continued his researches, though, Carey came to see that things were a little more complex. His theory was that over the course of each year, as the sun moves through the signs of the zodiac, the corresponding mineral salt (or its equivalent in the body's subtle energies) is activated, and this affects unborn infants as well as the already born. Since each of us spends on average nine months in the womb before birth, however, we don't go through the full cycle, and therefore each of us needs to take extra doses of those cell salts that correspond to the part of the year we didn't spend in utero. Careful experimentation led him to the protocol presented in the earlier post -- one dose of the relevant cell salts per day when the Moon is in the zodiacal sign the Sun was in when you were born.
It was when he started compiling the results of following the protocol in himself and in other people that he moved on to the further dimensions of the theory. We'll get to those in due time. Meanwhile, I'd be interested to hear initial reports from people who have been working with the protocol -- and, of course, any other questions or comments relevant to this project will be welcome. 
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 10:13 am (UTC)If I'm honest, I have a low-level amount of anxiety due to the ongoing pandemic and it's potential fallout, I've started working from home so my routine has changed, we're not going outside as often due to the lockdown and my activities have become more introspective, so there are a lot of variables that have suddenly changed. But now that I'm in this routine and things have stabilized, hopefully I'll be able to isolate any effects more easily. I'm going to keep doing the experiment, of course.
I normally drink two cups of coffee per day, the first soon right after taking the bioplasma/cell salts first thing in the morning. Are the issues with cell salts and coffee?
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 06:00 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 01:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 06:01 pm (UTC)Past Post Question?
Date: 2020-04-07 01:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 11:17 pm (UTC)As a preemie, I will be doing a 5-salt regimen.
My bowel movements have become less frequent, and denser.
results
Date: 2020-04-05 03:29 pm (UTC)It may be of some help to know that I'm a 60 year old Leo, above average fitness level, living in a rural setting with hands and feet in the soil frequently and have a fairly low stress level, good work conditions, and good omnivorous dietary habits. I've noticed even moderate alcohol intake produces some pretty negative effects. No sexual activity for some weeks due to some nagging flu symptoms.
Not to venture into the subject that shall not be named too far, but I had begun the cell salt regimen that was described here a few weeks ago and am sure it has prevented some serious symptoms from progressing too far. I continue to use that treatment in addition to other herbal supplements to stay as healthy as possible.
Many thanks for this project, and really, all of your work. It has been very beneficial to me and my household.
Prayers for everyone here and if any are so inclined I would appreciate an interest in your prayers.
Gawain
Re: results
Date: 2020-04-05 06:10 pm (UTC)Liking this!
Date: 2020-04-05 04:27 pm (UTC)I hit the ground running on March 21, starting the program with the special dose for my Aquarius 9 degree self. Felt a subtle, but quite noticeable, sense of energy with the first dose. Very slight nausea toward the end of the second day, but that has not returned.
Have been on the regular dosage, and while the early “Whoa!” has receded I do feel I have greater stamina: a sort of inner core of energy that feels strong and flexible. All especially noticeable in my calmer than I’d expect response to the pandemic-induced craziness at my workplace. Have enjoyed a total of five beers since the beginning of this experiment.
67-year-old husband decided to tag along in his own way on this experiment and takes 4 bio plasma each morning. Feels it boosts his stamina as well. Asked me to order two more bottles, in case people start hoarding bioplasma instead of toilet paper. 😆
OtterGirl
Re: Liking this!
Date: 2020-04-05 06:11 pm (UTC)Re: Liking this!
Date: 2020-04-05 07:48 pm (UTC)For me, no other noticeable health changes other than clearly improved stamina, both physically and mentally. This latter is a particular gift, as there has been family drama galore these past several weeks, and also my job is such that I will keep on going to work for the duration of this pandemic. I’m curiously okay with all of this. Fabulously weird!
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 04:44 pm (UTC)One question: If I forget to take the biplasma immediately upon waking as I've done a couple times, is there a "next best" time to take them? Should I just take them as soon as I remember, or wait, say, a couple hours and do it on an empty stomach or something?
Thanks for getting this going, it's exciting to learn about the cell salts! Seems like a very accessible form of holistic health care which I can add to my modest skill in herbalism.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 06:12 pm (UTC)Data for Igor
Date: 2020-04-05 07:05 pm (UTC)Baseline data: 63 year old female, active, very good health, no prescription meds, a cocktail or glass of wine or beer most evenings. I drink tea but not coffee. The minor health annoyances that occur most often are sinus clogging and pain, adult acne (I was one of those spotty teenagers as well), and back spasms.
When I pulled out the cell salts for 20 Aquarius last month, those four salts were in the front of the group of 12 cell salts. I think this is because these are the same ones I use most often for self-healing.
When I began the 20 Aquarius salts I noted that I was in the midst of a minor acne outbreak. That outbreak persisted as I began taking the bioplasma on April 2. Today I noticed that there is no new acne and the already-present spots are healing.
The other change I have noticed is that I haven't had any sinus clogging or pain since I began the 20 Aquarius salts. This is despite the spring green-up and pollen release that is now occurring. If this continues to hold true, I will continue the regimen even if nothing else changes.
So far no emotional changes, but I tend to be very emotionally stable these days anyway, unlike my younger years. I did persist with digging a vegetable bed for over three hours a couple of days ago, which I don't tend to do, instead taking a break in about the middle or breaking it into a 2 day job. It'll be interesting to see if that pattern persists as I dig the next 8 beds.
Tell Igor I said hi. ;-)
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 08:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 10:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-05 10:57 pm (UTC)I already work from home, so the shutdown hasn't affected me much. I don't think that's throwing too many variables into the mix.
cell salt experiment
Date: 2020-04-05 11:19 pm (UTC)Jon from Virginia
Update.
Date: 2020-04-06 12:18 am (UTC)I haven't noticed much of a change, although on the few days i had forgotten to take the Bioplasma first thing in the morning i would, an hour or so later, feel like 'something' was missing (maybe even feel a little 'off') - then realized i had skipped the Bioplasma - so i made sure to take it right away. I think it might be helping me to sleep better.
Thanks for this opportunity!
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-06 01:33 am (UTC)Minion 3457 reporting
Date: 2020-04-06 04:46 am (UTC)My wife is on the program as well. Nothing significant to report there although she is having success treating esophogeal spasms (allergy related).
Biographical information
40 year old male, above average fitness level,
38 year old female, average fitness level
Other Dave
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-06 09:44 am (UTC)On the first day, at about 4.30pm I got a migraine for which I took 2 Panadol.
I usually take 2 as soon as the spots in my vision start as it tends to take an edge off the pain that follows.
I still did my Monday arvo exercise regime though.
One thing to note is a bit of insomnia, which may perhaps due to the current situation. A week of insomnia is always a premenstrual thing, but the timing is off for that.
I'm feeling pretty good at this point, which I think among other things is from going outside in the lovely autumnal weather and communing with my rapidly growing vegetable seedlings!
:-)
Helen in Oz
First go-round
Date: 2020-04-06 05:45 pm (UTC)Re: First go-round
Date: 2020-04-07 03:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-06 07:53 pm (UTC)The pandemic was a good distraction for a bit, misleading me to believe that I had mastered the unhealthy emotional state, but then it came up again when I saw the person who replaced me continues to get rewarded for their incompetence and the organization (of which I am still a part) is in real trouble due to bad leadership.
Here is where it gets interesting. After doing the necessary calculations for the cell salt experiment I realized that I had ordered a completely wrong chart all those months ago, and also ordered the wrong cell salts the first time around as a result. So initially I had taken the wrong salts at the wrong time, but only for a day and have since ordered the proper ones. Ironically the realization came to me at a time when the moon was in my sun sign and I got a feeling that I should be taking them, which made me double check my work. The Kali Mur was the only one in common between my real and fake birthdays, so I took it by itself since it is the only one I had.
That was last week and ever since I have experienced a growing sense of dissatisfaction, along with the dreaded buildup of the emotional energy stored in stiff body parts that inevitably leads to weeks of debilitation. Upon ordering my correct birth chart and annual forecast I realized that the strategy I really need is to let my authentic self stand up against the injustices that continue. Bottling it up is very hazardous to my health, and at this point I really do not have a lot to lose but an important life lesson to gain.
Yesterday was my first day taking a break from the cannabis, which I could tell was clouding my mind and inhibiting the processing of difficult emotions. After starting the experiment I noticed that the cannabis effects were diminished and I started taking a lot more than usual as a result. The relaxing effects stopped working and it just ruined my ability to function on a high level, while the burning internal issues flamed even brighter trying to get my attention. Yesterday I decided I had enough and will take at least a week off cannabis to see how it goes, especially because I need my facilities to come up with a real strategies on multiple fronts (alternative sources of income for example).
Being in a cannabis control group sounds fun, but at this point I have a fight to pick and therefore need all the clarity I can muster.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-09 10:31 pm (UTC)Results so far
Date: 2020-04-07 12:01 am (UTC)One that my wife and I have both noticed is a change in bowel movements. Instead of once a day, twice a day or perhaps even more has been the norm. This is definitely a good thing as the recommendations is that a health adult should probably have a bowel movement twice a day. My daughter has seemed a bit more regular in this aspect as well.
I personally have noticed the ability to deal with a lot of emotional stuff better. In fact, even acknowledging emotions has often been an issue for me which has been taking an interesting turn as I've been better able to keep a daily journal since starting the bioplasma. I've also noticed an increase in the ability to focus.
All in all, there seem to be positive changes and I can't say I've noticed anything negative or to be upset/concerned about.
Prizm
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-07 03:46 am (UTC)On the first day, at about 4.30pm I got a migraine for which I took 2 Panadol.
I usually take 2 as soon as the spots in my vision start as it tends to take an edge off the pain that follows.
I still did my Monday arvo exercise regime though.
One thing to note is a bit of insomnia, which may perhaps due to the current situation. A week of insomnia is always a premenstrual thing, but the timing is off for that.
I'm feeling pretty good at this point, which I think among other things is from going outside in the lovely autumnal weather and communing with my rapidly growing vegetable seedlings!
:-)
Helen in Oz
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-07 12:36 pm (UTC)While I’m not sure if I feel any particular effects in these two weeks absent the muddling of the use of Vitamins (Vitamin C, D, B complex, l-lysine, NAC, Calcium-Magnesium-Zinc) and cell salts (Ferrum Pho’s with Nat. Sulph/Kali Mur as needed) to head off respiratory illness, the trio of cell salts indicated for my late Cancer Sun address per The Biochemic Handbook a number of long standing health issues, particularly concerning intestinal issues, flatulence, and a family tendency towards issues with uric acid.
My intake of bioplasma is somewhat irregular in timing for I work the night shift, so at times I end up taking it twice a day, in the morning and when I rise in the late afternoon. The lunar rounds have been diligently taken in the morning.
cell salt astrological experiment
Date: 2020-04-07 10:23 pm (UTC)I ended up purchasing the other necessary cell salts today (April 7th), and therefore missed the window of opportunity for April (which would have been April 4th through the 6th). When I received the Bioplasma cell salts on March 24th I began by taking 4 a day (the recommended amount that was listed on the container.) A couple of days ago I re-read the instructions and started taking 6 Bioplasma pills as per JMG’s recommendation.
I had not noticed any significant change (for better or worse) while I was taking 4 Bioplasma pills, and since upping the dose to 6 a day (2 days now), I have noticed a significant improvement in my physical energy level, clarity of my mental functioning and stability of my emotions and sense of well being. Not really sure yet if I can attribute this to the new cell salt dose, but interested in continuing with the experiment and monitoring results.
Will report periodically.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-08 04:14 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-08 07:23 pm (UTC)First, my dream recall seems to have improved.
Second, I lift weights and my recovery speed has seemed unusually fast.
Initial report
Date: 2020-04-09 07:15 pm (UTC)Then I realized that it's been almost no struggle at all to control my indulgences ('addictions' is too strong a word). This is unusual. I've reduced my sugar consumption; chocolate cravings have disappeared and shifted a few other habits without noticing very much.
The thought is still there occasionally but it's more of a nostalgia thing. Today I decided to have a bite of chocolate and I didn't even enjoy it much.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-12 09:22 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-12 05:54 pm (UTC)My wife is going to join me in this experiment, and I wondering if you could tell me what her cell salt combination should be. She was born 3 week premature (she thinks) on Jan. 2, 1966 at 1:06pm.
Also, in reading the original guidelines, it looks like we take the dose 3 times during the 2 1/2 day period, yes?
Thank you.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-12 07:59 pm (UTC)Calc. Phos. 1, Nat. Mur. 3, Ferrum Phos. 3, Kali Phos. 3, Nat. Sulph. 1
And yes, three doses during the 2 1/2 day window when the Moon is in the sign the Sun was in at your birth.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-18 04:11 pm (UTC)Bioplasma alone seemed have a good effect. Many say it gives energy, but my experience was more like it removes existing inertia, as opposed to the energy that sugar or caffeiene gives. It felt more like it dissolved blockages of my own energy. If I were marketing it, my tagline would be Bioplasma: you gotta do what you gotta do. I had a sense of resolve and tended to just do things I'd normally put off, in fair spirits. I also noticed that bioplasma has a good effect on a hangover.
I'm Aquarius 0-10, and just finished my third cocktail yesterday. I felt a noticeable effect right after taking it, but it's hard to say what it was, other than the salts were active. Geomancy may provide a clue. The 1st mother on day one was colled, as was the judge, and the way of points related back, so I think that meant healing, blocks removed. The next two days, the first triplicity was llawennydd, bendith fawr, merch, and the third day that was also the court. I think these figures referred to the effects of the treatment. An improvement in my efforts, my aelf-control, and my acceptance of situations and willingness to deal with them patiently.
Hard to say, since a lot of other things are going on, but by the third evening I felt much more in control of my thoughts and my mood, with better resolve, fewer hangups. My health in general is very good so it's hard to mark an improvement.
Another noticeable effect of probably bioplasma but possibly both was cravings. I noticed I eat only about half the sugar snacks as before, I'm less inclined to stuff myself, and I have an easy time stopping at two drinks (part of that is getting old and getting hangovers if I don't, but it has been easier.)
-Kyle
still waiting
Date: 2020-04-18 07:02 pm (UTC)Void of Course
Date: 2020-04-19 02:05 pm (UTC)As far as my results so far, between my life having been thrown upside down by my wife's passing and this virus thing I can't say one way or another how it's going but will continue for at least a year to see how things go.
Peace and Harmony
Re: Void of Course
Date: 2020-04-19 05:37 pm (UTC)With regard to the Moon being void of course, as far as Carey's system goes, that doesn't seem to be an issue. It's generally considered a bad idea to begin things when the Moon is void of course, but you're not beginning anything -- you're continuing to take the cell salts you started taking when the Moon went into the sign.
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-22 12:50 am (UTC)Overall, my health and mood has been normal. I haven't noticed anything remarkable in the first month, however, by paying attention to my physical condition, I have been able to find that excess salt or sugar seems to lead to heart palpitations. Normal energy levels, and very mild allergy symptoms (sneezing when I go outside and some sniffles)
One effect I have noticed is that hangovers are greatly diminished or outright absent. Previously, 4 beers would give me a headache the next day, but the same amount now produces no symptoms. Perhaps the intake of salts lessens the effect of dehydration?
(no subject)
Date: 2020-04-22 02:52 am (UTC)Cell Salts
Date: 2020-09-15 02:40 pm (UTC)I had been suffering with poor circulation in my lower extremities due to colon and intestinal cancer. After several years of falling short of finding any type of cure for my symptoms I stumbled upon Carey in a Facebook post. I immediately ordered 2 bottles of bioplasma and 2 bottles each of the individual salts and began taking them daily.
3 days after taking the bioplasma, my feet had gone from an ice cold blue and boney looking, back to a more healthy hue of filled with life. Due to the covid I have ended up having to live in undesirable conditions and have not been able to continue taking the salts, but I found a link to your page after being called by guiding spirits to look into druidry after years of studying several different occult practices, but never finding fulfillment in any of the Jewish mysticism. I felt it just wasn't authentic.
Your work has helped me rediscover myself and my ancestry and has given me hope and reactivated my will to contour further in my occult studies, however, finding literature on ancient druidry is extremely difficult to come by.
Anyways, I thought I'd share my experiences with the salts. Thank you for your contributions to druidry and occult sciences, I look forward to diving more into your work and learning more about the true roots of mysticism and the power of the forgotten (or more appropriately, destroyed) history of my ancestors. Take care.