Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 171

[ecosophia]

...One can dream, at any rate. Update 11/15/24:  As the pedes like to say, "Don't let your memes be dreams!" 

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Tend to think

[degringolade]

I will be watching RFK. I think that he may well be the exemplar of the old phrase "when you are up to your ass in alligators, it is hard to remember that you were supposed to drain the swamp".

If nothing else, please remember that 47% of those who voted think that things are just fine, thank you very much.

All I am hoping for is a (hopefully big) decrease in inertia. Slow the thing (way) down. Pull some of the money out of big pharma.

I hope that folks don't start singing "ding dong the witch is dead" and thinking that the current system isn't going to defend itself. RFK might be talking a bit too much shit about what he is going to do to "them". It might well behoove him to start looking at what they can do to him.

Re: Tend to think

[ecosophia]

Oh, granted. It's not over yet. In Churchill's phrase, it's not even the beginning of the end, but it might be the end of the beginning. The flipside, though, is that the medical system has become so insanely expensive and dysfunctional, at a time when the US and global economies are struggling, that plutocrats in other economic sectors are likely to be whetting their knives and drawing up plans to carve up that turkey so they can protect their own interests in the general bankruptcy ahead.

Forever Chemicals

[(Anonymous)]

What a story in those eyes!

I'm sure some of you already saw this. Not covid, but health and FDA etc. related:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/forever-chemicals-us-drinking-water-growing-problem

It put me in mind of that studied posted here once about obesity being more of a problem near river basins, iirc.

Eagle Fang Warrior 5000

[(Anonymous)]

This meme is not for those faint of heart (pun intended)

https://imgur.com/a/Tn6uL01

Hope our generous guest lets it through though

[ecosophia]

I'd already noticed the curious coincidence in those numbers.

The work continues

[(Anonymous)]

Watching friends' online reactions to the election has really stirred some things up for me. Like many here, I was happy and surprised and relieved to see Donny and Bobby get their big chance to clean up the clubhouse and prevent a repeat of the 2020 nightmare. But I am no saint. I keep a close watch on what I say and type these days so that I don't let slip a big, fat, 'Now you know how it feels!!!'

I might think I'm right, but I certainly don't want to live with bitterness inside me. Those kinds of feelings have been eating away at my physical health, through fearful and resentful thought loops, difficulty getting a full night's sleep, and just feeling most days that I am surrounded by enemies and have to keep quiet to avoid persecution. Not to say that these feelings are invalid, or that I am the only person who feels them. Not by a long shot, I'm sure.

But whether politics go in our favour or not, the inner work is always ours alone to do, and that work continues. I have begun the Octagon Society work that our host recommended some years ago on this platform, with that hope in mind. Has anybody else out there had success in rooting out the feelings of bitterness and resentment from inside themselves, and if so, how? If you have a success story to share about letting go, moving on, emotionally speaking, I am all ears.

Dylan

Re: The work continues

[ecosophia]

It's a slow process, but I've had some success with it. For me, at least, physical relaxation is key -- I do progressive relaxation drills daily. (This is the sort of thing where you lie down and consciously relax each part of your body in turn.) Making sure I have other things to feed my mind -- music, reading material, etc. -- is also crucial. I've got a Stan Kenton jazz record on right now, very mellow, and it's harder to feel stressed and bitter while that's playing.

Turbo cancers

[(Anonymous)]

My oncologist says that he sees younger patients (40-50 years old) that arrive at the hospital full of metastatic cancers. What troubles him is that the metastasis are not what he would normally expect. For example if you have bladder cancer you might expect metastasis in the lungs or the bones. Now he sees problems in liver, pancreas etc. He still refuses to admit there might be a connection to the vaccines.

Re: Turbo cancers

[(Anonymous)]

It would be interesting to know whether they are sill getting regular Covid shots - presumably not given the age range, unless in the 'health sector' - or these dreadful cancers are showing up some years after the mandatory shots.

How are vaccine passports related to belonging to the "right" political party?

[(Anonymous)]

I really got depressed last week when I read about the FEMA team lead who told her team to not render aid in a disaster area if a house had a Trump sign in the yard. Yep, that is exactly how I was treated when I refused to get the jab. No one actually spit on me, but some certainly wanted to. And remember, there were people publicly advocating for those who did not get the jab to be refused medical care of any kind, for any reason. They already fired us, refused to allow us in restaurants and entertainment venues, and hectored us in the media. So they have backed off the vax mandates (for now) but it seems it is definitely okay to refuse Federal disaster support to the "garbage" and "deplorables." Same song, different day. I already know that Federal disaster support or any support at all from the government is a ridiculous idea -- wasn't expecting anything from those clowns -- but I don't appreciate paying taxes so they can play mean girls... Rant complete, thanks for listening...

Re: How are vaccine passports related to belonging to the "right" political party?

[methylethyl]

They are trying to throw the one employee under the bus for that, but it's looking like that story could get a *lot* more interesting. She doesn't want to be their scapegoat, and she is saying it happened in Florida, the Carolinas, in more than one office, and involved a lot of people.

Let the housecleaning begin, and let it not be limited to FEMA!

Interesting article

[seanbolger1]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-just-got-handed-fraudulent-books-ed-dowd-warns-trump-inheriting-turd-economy

Kind regards
Sean

Re: Interesting article

[(Anonymous)]

At this point it's a game of hot potato. All a president can do is hope he's not the one left holding it when the music stops.

somewhat related...

[nicky11]

Hi JMG,

Thank you for this forum!

I've been tinkering with this notion for a while and was planning to throw this into the hat on Magic Monday, but I think that it might fit here. I've noticed in my field ("mental health") that in a highly feminized workplace, relational activities take the place of actually meeting goals and achieving tasks. I spent a year at an agency in a leadership position and was struck at how nothing got done. The employees spent a great deal of time "working" by explaining how difficult the job was (working with "the marginalized"). They were exhausted by the end of the day, but nothing ever really got done. But they insisted that they were still giving it their all! I'm female and I am struck by this phenomenon.

I remember that within a day or two of being at this job I thought that the place is in deep need of some masculine energy. Do you think that this is something that is affecting the Political Party as well (in addition to their general tendencies toward deceit and malfeasance)? I recognize that there are plenty of men in the Party but there seems to be some polarity differences between Democrats and Republicans that seem to be related to active and passive energies. Or maybe not. I've noticed this in various workplaces. It seems to be more than simply "gender roles..." perhaps something like active and passive energies (or frequencies) that accumulate and manifest in our material world. I'm wondering if this election's shift is related to balancing out these energies.

I'm aware that you've probably written about this somewhere and I can't find it. Please point me to it.

Thanks in advance!

Re: somewhat related...

[ecosophia]

I haven't written about this, but it makes perfect sense. Masculine and feminine energies really are different, and a surplus of one or the other is valuable in certain narrow applications but counterproductive in most others. Our society has had a surplus of feminine energies in recent decades -- this is a pendulum movement, following the great surplus of masculine energies that got us through the Second World War but then led to empire after it -- and now things appear to be balancing out. I hope they move toward the middle, where there's adequate attention to relational issues but the work also gets done.

Where are RFK and Tulsi?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm looking at Trump's picks for his cabinet so far and rather disappointed in who he's picked so far, seems to be mostly neo-cons, and I don't see RFK Jr or Tulsi there - was I misguided in that hope? It seems like instead of being a real unity coalition it's just the same old GOP.

Re: Where are RFK and Tulsi?

[(Anonymous)]

he picked a Soros + WEF guy for treasury. I think that qualifies for unity :)

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5850134/pg1

old gods or demonic stuff

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen this:

https://nitter.poast.org/pic/media%2FGcNOx65WYAAB348.png%3Fname%3Dsmall%26format%3Dwebp

I think there is a venn diagrama with those that support the vaccine too!

I think this is the best place to discuss this, are this old gods demons... I don't mean it in the Christian sense where the pagans gods are demons, but in the sense that this group even depicts them as demons.

Trump's warp's speed

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen here people full onboard with Trump. I guess they are from US. So I will not mess with US politics they must know better.

As a Eastern European I fell out of grace with him when he did a half-anse job in opposing the lockdown. Was pushing ventilators, even going for great lengths to leave other countries without them just for US to have them first. And when he pushed warp-speed and waxxines.

I believed that he didn't mean bad... but he was easily lead towards it, I think now there is some hope with RFK so I am watching here...

But I've seen this tweet and I'm concerned:
https://nitter.poast.org/tyrannideris/status/1856375941905162651#m

Re: Trump's warp's speed

[escorcher]

For info. Nitter tweet says this:

"Hate to break it to you, but it’s highly likely that Trump was ushered in to make the new technocratic, biometric surveillance/digital ID/digital currency system palatable to the very people most likely to resist it.

The “anti-establishment” image, the populist rhetoric—it’s the perfect disguise to slip a digital prison past those who should be most vigilant.

They didn’t need a left-wing authoritarian to push this; they needed someone who could make the right embrace it willingly."

(Saying something about the tweet helps those who aren't willing or can't link to it)

I'm not quite there with this piece of conspiracy but do acknowledge 'The Donald' is not anywhere near to being an outsider to the political class as many hope and think. Also it's worth remembering that big business and money has all the control in the US these days. I can't quite believe how monitized and commercial everything is over there - I see the RFK jr merchandise for MAHA is all in place:

https://merch.mahanow.org/

This is not an invitation to buy anything btw - if you want to fight anything fight that urge! I mean, seriously, the commodification of everything has gotten way out of hand. 🤦

[(Anonymous)]

Check out this romantic email between a husband and wife - January 2021.

Christine Grady, Fauci’s wife, after getting forwarded from her husband that 23 people died in Norway after receiving the Pfizer vaccine:

Yikes!

https://nitter.poast.org/_aussie17/status/1856688739365577060#m

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you think he would send that to her?

[(Anonymous)]

The CDC Planned Quarantine Camps Nationwide

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cdc-planned-quarantine-camps-nationwide

Hospital Stuff

[fredsmith11]

A whistleblower nurse talking about the dire straits the vaxxed are in at her hospital: https://x.com/thehealthb0t/status/1856466021990969388

A commentary on the dancing nurse propaganda videos during peak COVID BS times: https://x.com/JacquiDeevoy1/status/1856714684528783375

Re: Hospital Stuff

[transcriberb]

There was some discussion here on this forum about the TikTok dancers a few months ago. The song they were all dancing to, "Jerusalema," had some rather eyebrow-raising lyrics. Here's my transcript of Thomas Sheridan's comment on all that:

Thomas Sheridan on the Unforgivable: TikTok Dancers, $cientists, and Sadistic Smearers (Excerpts)
"it's a very dark situation that we find ourselves in that we have to sort of re-evaluate everyone around us into who had honor and who didn't"
https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/137674.html


Source video:
"Forgiveness Going Forward"
Thomas Sheridan II
Posted June 7, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7dMKYcKt1I

"Throw Them In Anti-Vaxxer Concentration Camps"

[fredsmith11]

One of the many Hitler parodies done using the famous clip from the movie Downfall. This one has Hitler portraying Kamala post-election: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/downfall-kamala-2024-election

The line "Throw Them In Anti-Vaxxer Concentration Camps" made my day.

Mattias Desmet: The De-Souling of the World

[(Anonymous)]

Because Covid Compliance didn't happen in a vacuum. And most people don't WANT to be free; most people aren't happy if they have free will.

https://substack.com/@mattiasdesmet/p-146344788

Re: Mattias Desmet: The De-Souling of the World

[boccaccio]

That was an interesting read. I like that Matthias ends with a suggestion that can be applied on the individual level. That gives us agency and is practical. Demanding that 'the system' must change will only lead to non-action or violence.

As for your last remark: psychologist Erich Fromm wrote a great book about this subject, "Escape from Freedom". It was first published in 1941 and explores how a rise in freedom could go hand in hand with a rise in authoritarianism. Seems very relevant today!

More on Elecampane

[(Anonymous)]

A little while ago here we were discussing some uses for Elecampane. Here is a nice write up on Ele, its history and uses. Candied elecampane anyone?

https://weedom.substack.com/p/elecampane

Re: More on Elecampane

[claire_58]

Thanks for this.

[(Anonymous)]

Arcturus Therapeutics Receives Clearance from FDA to Begin H5N1 Pandemic Flu Vaccine Clinical Trial

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20241111138781/en/Arcturus-Therapeutics-Receives-Clearance-from-FDA-to-Begin-H5N1-Pandemic-Flu-Vaccine-Clinical-Trial

Remembering Peanut

[(Anonymous)]

Very good article about Peanut and the nature of evil.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/remember-peanut-treatise-evil-and-why-state-killing-squirrel-matters-so-much

For those who may have missed it, here’s a good conversation about Peanut from a recent MM.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/302895.html?thread=52021039#cmt52021039

Funny thing is, I was just commenting to my better half how Peanut laid bare certain truths. Highly recommend that article.

Re: Remembering Peanut

[mr_nobody1967]

Yes, the main reason I have been distancing myself from the left lately even though I still scan as very "lefty" on political alignment tests, is because way too many leftists, including "real" leftists, worship the all-powerful, overreaching administrative state as their god. That's just a bridge too far for me. The main thing about me that I can identify as different from those state-worshiping lefties, is that I have a relationship with the Spirit, while they, I tend to think, are the sort atheists/ agnostics you tend to see populating Reddit.com.

[(Anonymous)]

Surreal experience yesterday. I appeared on a well-produced podcast out of Dubai. During the interview, host asked me if I thought Pres Trump and RFK Jr ‘would survive’ til Inauguration, as they had taken on Big Pharma. I said I thought that was an inappropriate and inflammatory question. He then states repeatedly that Pfizer had ‘denied’ the content of our book The Pfizer Papers, though this is utterly false and I kept telling him so. Then after the recording, I had to threaten legal action if they did not cut that false statement. Then a producer called me and begged me to let them leave it in though he agreed that it was a false statement. He said that another producer was ‘shouting in the ear’ of the host during the podcast, telling the host that he had to make this false claim on air or else the show would be sued in the UK. This all happened the day after OfCom forced marksteynonline to pay 50,000 pounds in legal fees for letting me tell the truth about The Pfizer Papers on his UK/based show. Is Pfizer threatening/tasking media with making false claims of nonexistent denials?

https://nitter.poast.org/naomirwolf/status/1857046281874518396#m

[(Anonymous)]

Rand Paul to target ‘COVID cover-up’ as head of Senate Homeland Security committee

https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/us-news/rand-paul-to-target-covid-cover-up-as-head-of-senate-homeland-security-committee/

Rand Paul....

[drhooves]

Well, we can hope he'll get some traction and prevent a repeat of the Covid "pandemic" response, but he better "get a wriggle on", as the old saying goes. Big Harma keeps charging ahead with their game plan.

I've yet to see a constructive senate or congressional hearing in my lifetime, but maybe I'm not paying attention. Seems to always be a lot of blathering, an occasional truthful nugget, followed by no action. None. Zippo. Dog and Pony show at the Circus. Appears to be more of a pressure relief tactic than anything useful.

I'm beginning to think most everyone in .gov is playing with a bit of fire here. The Trump supporters may not give him much slack as the Decline gets in the way of "fixing things", and the Dems have some seriously deranged people who will go all-in scorched earth rather than have their reality invaded.

Of the options on the table, I'm hoping for Trump to give up a little wealth to the masses, sort of the way FDR did. Economics are way different now than the 1930s, but a relief for some in misery might help. As more people believe they have nothing left to lose, that hopelessness can be a real powder keg.

If Trump falters, I'd guess we might see JD Vance soon to try and finesse things out a bit....

Dutch mortality statistics

[boccaccio]

Here are the updated Dutch mortality stats. The data now run up and to last Sunday, Nov 10th (week 45). I developed my own methodology to calculate the numbers based on pre-coof expected mortality. For details see https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/294941.html?thread=50888221#cmt50888221.

Excess mortality up and to week 45 is as follows:
2020: 7.6% (whole year 9.0%)
2021: 6.4% (whole year 9.9%)
2022: 7.4% (whole year 9.1%)
2023: 6.9% (whole year 7.9%)
2024: 8.7%

Some observations:
- The year 2024 has the highest excess mortality since the beginning of the Coof, but week 43 and 44 saw a lower excess mortality than comparable weeks in previous Coof years. Last week (45) saw an uptick and that's why I included it. Usually the numbers are corrected for a few % a week later. Of course I will also keep an eye on possible changes in week 43 and 44.
- The actual situation is worse than reported as we still haven't seen any 'pull forward' effect. I don't think we ever will and to keep the calculation as straightforward as posible, I don't take it into account
- Usually mortality is higher in Autum and Winter than in Spring or Summer. But this seasonal effect is already discounted for in the baseline calculation of expected mortality in a given week. The excess mortality is actually in excess of what it is supposed to be. I argued before that this points at immunological issues driving excess mortality.
- I only looked at total deaths as I have no access to age stratified data. I'm afraid that the impact on our society of the continued excess mortality is worse than the numbers show as it used to be spread over all age-groups. I have no reason to assume this has changed. This means that the loss of 'expected years to live' for the whole population has gone down much more and that the lack of people available for work has also declined significantly. Also the higher sickness rates add to this.

Re: Dutch mortality statistics

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for doing these. I read that the Dutch government changed the baseline as 2020-2022 to make all future numbers look normal.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-nominates-rfk-jr-hhs-secretary

"Trump Nominates RFK Jr. For HHS Secretary"

Where are all the naysayers?

[(Anonymous)]

Having been a bit skeptical due to Trump appointing a Pfizer lobbyist as his chief of staff, I'll agree with Paul Craig Roberts on this one: "I am astonished and delighted. I hope it isn’t fake news."

He still has to be confirmed, but right now, astonished and delighted is definitely my feeling, too.

[(Anonymous)]

RFK Jr. accepts Health and Human Services Secretary position. What does the Secretary do?

[ecosophia]

He's the executive head of the entire department, equivalent to a cabinet minister in a European country. His only superior is the president. The department includes the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), FDA (Food and Drug Administration), and NIH (National Institutes of Health) among its branches. So RFK Jr., after he is confirmed, will be in charge of all of the US government institutions that have been central to the COVID fraud and Big Pharma abuses generally, with power to hire people and force things to be made public. This is huge.

RFK Jr. Nominated for Secretary of Health and Human Services

[mistyfriday]

Donald J. Trump
realdonaldtrump

I am thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to Public Health. The Safety and Health of all Americans is the most important role of any Administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming Health Crisis in this Country. Mr. Kennedy will restore these Agencies to the traditions of Gold Standard Scientific Research, and beacons of Transparency, to end the Chronic Disease epidemic, and to Make America Great and Healthy Again!



3.26k ReTruths 10.8k Likes
Nov 14, 2024, 1:12 PM

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113483366471340943

Re: RFK Jr. Nominated for Secretary of Health and Human Services

[escorcher]

A good start:)