Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 171

[ecosophia]

...One can dream, at any rate. Update 11/15/24:  As the pedes like to say, "Don't let your memes be dreams!" 

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

RFK Jr. accepts Health and Human Services Secretary position. What does the Secretary do?

[ecosophia]

He's the executive head of the entire department, equivalent to a cabinet minister in a European country. His only superior is the president. The department includes the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), FDA (Food and Drug Administration), and NIH (National Institutes of Health) among its branches. So RFK Jr., after he is confirmed, will be in charge of all of the US government institutions that have been central to the COVID fraud and Big Pharma abuses generally, with power to hire people and force things to be made public. This is huge.

[(Anonymous)]

no, it is uuuuge :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEA33bAXyNM&ab_channel=WoodrowScott4

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. My Lord! Incredible!

[(Anonymous)]

Smart bit of political manoeuvring too as it means the opposition cannot pin the COVID debacle back onto Trump if (when?) the public perception starts to swing towards retribution.

[(Anonymous)]

Go get 'em Bobby

[boccaccio]

This week's meme is gaining strenght :-))

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder if RFK Jr will go the same way his dad and uncle did.

[(Anonymous)]

While all the back slapping is great, the likelihood of his being confirmed by a hostile (Never-Trump) senate leader is unlikely at best. Time will tell.

~Wolf

[ecosophia]

Granted, but Trump likely has backup candidates to replace RFK and Gaetz, who will be less extreme and still get the agenda done. These two will take some of the heat off his other picks, some of which will be equally transformative.

[kashtan]

While I personally hope to see RFK Jr as head of HHS, it also is a possibility that if the senate blocks RFK Jr and/or other major Trump appointments, that may actually help Trump and the larger populist movement in the long run. Trump has been left with a huge mess, and my guess is that the situation we've been left with is in rough enough shape that some pretty nasty things were on the table for the next four years no matter who won the election. With the House and Senate in Republican hands, if they go along with Trump's agenda then Trump would be likely to take the blame for any bad things that happen in the next few years, even though it's very likely things under Harris would end up worse.

If however, never-Trump Republicans join up with the democrats in a major way to stop Trump's changes, then, while the next two years at least are likely to be worse because of that, it also leaves congress open to taking at least some of the blame for any nasty stuff that happens. The never-Trump Republicans are vulnerable to challenges at the primary level in future elections. I suspect by 2028 that the Republican party will be firmly the populist party, including both those firmly on the populist Right and those with more traditionally liberal views such as RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard, while the last of the never-Trump Republicans will have joined Dick Cheney in fleeing to the Democratic party.