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 As the earlier draft of the Weird of Hali Tree of Life attracted a certain amount of interest, I thought I'd post this more complete version...

tentacular tree of life

Some of the additional details should be fairly clear to those who've read the first two volumes of The Weird of Hali; the others will become a little less opaque as the story proceeds. 

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Date: 2019-01-08 08:58 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was just thinking about this.

- Brigyn

The Elder Scrolls Variant

Date: 2019-01-09 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I wanted in on the fun, so I've made a similar system but using the Daedric Princes ("dark gods", the spirits that refused to partake in creation) of The Elder Scrolls franchise. It might prove amusing for anyone out there who's familiar with them.

1) Kether-Tamiel: Sheogorath (or Jyggalag)
2) Chokmah-Chaigidel: Meridia
3) Binah-Sathariel: Mephala (or Nocturnal)
x) Da'ath: Hermeus Mora
4) Chesed-Gamchicoth: Namira
5) Geburah-Golachab: Molag Bal
6) Tipereth-Thagirion: Mehrunes Dagon (or Boethiah)
7) Netzach-Harab Serapel: Malacath (or Hircine)
8) Hod-Samael: Sanguine (or Clavicus Vile)
9) Yesod-Gamaliel: Azura (or Vaermina)
10) Malkuth-Nehemoth: Peryite

And that covers all 17 known Daedric Princes!

Note: On the off chance anyone actually considers playing around with this - I've done this purely as an exercise / entertainment, I have never attempted working with any of these entities, and I have no clue what if anything would respond if you did use them - in fact, I don't work with Qliphoth at all. Use at your own peril!


Re: The Elder Scrolls Variant

Date: 2019-01-09 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sage advice!


Sphere of Protection

Date: 2019-01-08 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tiagoantao
This would be an interesting source for a variation of the Sphere of Protection.

Current mood: Reading Kingsport

Re: Sphere of Protection

Date: 2019-01-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mesosylvania
I've been doing this! For the elemental cross, I put Yog-Sothoth and Tsathoggua as the gods, and Shub-Ne'hurrath and Yhoundeh as the goddesses. For the Gates, see the most recent Magic Monday for JMGs assignments.

Also, according to this article by JMG, the Tree of Life maps to the Wheel of Life:

So, Kether/Azathoth=Alban Arthuan, Chokmah/Yog-Sothoth=Imbolc, Chesed/Cthulhu=Alban Eiler, Netzach/Yhoundeh=Belteinne, Malkuth/Phauz=Alban Heruin, Hod/Nyarlathotep=Lughnassad, Geburah/Ithaqua=Alban Elued, Binah/Shub-Ne'hurrath=Samhain. The seasons revolve around the Sun (Tiphareth/The King in Yellow) and the Moon (Yesod/Tsathoggua), so they aren't directly associated with any particular Station of the Wheel of the Year. Perhaps The King in Yellow could correspond to the light half of the year, and Tsathoggua to the dark half? I plan on meditating on all of the above extensively...

I'm also working on a usable Aklo language, and finding suitable Aklo names for the Stations, and other Druidic concepts. We already have voor for nwyfre, for example. :-)

Re: Sphere of Protection

Date: 2019-01-10 12:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So I've been lingering here in anticipation of your updates re: Saint Toad. I felt *oddly compelled* to craft His likeness as the others didn't quite capture the "jolie laid" aspect or were too Jaba-ish on the Jaba-Yoda spectrum (apologies for the out-of-universe reference, HPL noob :/).

Just need to whip up a suitable egg tempera, no better yet maybe cod liver oil base paint (thinking of charcoal and dried moss or algae for the pigments... Will post a pic when he's fully emerged :)

Re: Sphere of Protection

Date: 2019-01-10 07:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Clark Ashton Smith made some sculptures and pictures of Tsathoggua. There are photos of them in

-- Lieven

Re: Sphere of Protection

Date: 2019-01-10 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mesosylvania
Greetings fellow cultist! It's great to hear that others share my inexplicable attraction to Tsathoggua! My main update is that I've been doing Jenny Parrish's daily practice, at least once a day. I think the key here is consistency, just like consistency in ritual, meditation, and divination is key to the systems of magic that our host teaches.

Nothing dramatic so far, I'm just listening, and sometimes I feel like someone is there, in a comforting, but not necessarily human, way. Maybe it's in my head, but then there's the occult cliche that "your head is bigger than you think" or something along those lines.

I'd love to see your artwork, by the way.

Re: Sphere of Protection

Date: 2019-01-10 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mesosylvania
Thanks for the feedback! These attributions seem very intuitive for me, based on my limited knowledge of Cabala of this point. Tiphareth for Alban Heruin makes complete sense, for example.

I'm assuming this is an expansion of your Druidical Order of the Golden Dawn material? Part of me wanted to start my magical training with that system, because you're working so actively on expanding the system. But, I'm sticking with the DMH, like all of your recommendations state regarding working a system thoroughly, no dabbling.

In regards to working out my own attributions- will do! And I'll share that on a future Magic Monday, if anyone is interested in the mad ravings of a relative noob. ;-)

What else stirs in the depths

Date: 2019-01-08 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Any day now I’m half expecting to see Pathway assignations for R'lyehian glyphs, a functional system of ritual magic, and a publication announcement for “The Elder Tarot: The Cards of Hali.”

-Eric S

Re: What else stirs in the depths

Date: 2019-01-08 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] avalterra
Would buy!

An entry for "Love in the Ruins"

Date: 2019-01-08 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Off-topic for this post, but I have an entry for the "Love in the Ruins" contest. (It is my first attempt at serious poetry in many years. Most verse I write could be described as "ironic doggerel".)

Re: An entry for "Love in the Ruins"

Date: 2019-01-09 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sure thing!

Great Timing!

Date: 2019-01-09 12:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

This is handy, since I just started Kingsport Sunday night. And may I just say that if you had sat down to write Kingsport and said to yourself "How can I make this book appeal to Maria?" I don't think you could have done a better job. I loved the first book, but a lonely young female protagonist? A mysterious old mansion filled with antiques? A kindly and interesting great aunt? Closets and closets of vintage designer dresses? The idea that there is significantly more going on than meets the eye? Oh, my goodness. Yes, please.

Thanks for some very happy hours reading it, although I think it will soon make for one or two late nights followed by rough mornings. I am REALLY invested in Jenny Parrish and if things go pear-shaped I'll fret until I know how it ends. :)


Re: Great Timing!

Date: 2019-01-09 10:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks, JMG. That's good news. :)


Location 2792 of 33714 typo

Date: 2019-01-10 07:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
OT, in The Weird of Hali Kingsport 'Jenny curtseyed and unfastened her cloak,let Charlotte and Sylvia drew it off her' should be 'draw'. Only typo I've noticed- really good type editing. Really good story to reread, too.

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Date: 2019-01-10 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is there a Druid equivalent to Ithaqua in the sense of a god of cold lands and their limits? Who would one want to speak to when traveling to the Arctic or Antarctica, for example? Ithaqua sounds quite interesting. I've never heard of a real god like that.

Sword and Serpent

Date: 2019-01-12 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] alexandermarcus
I gather the Blade of Uoht is the Flashing Sword. Is there a WoH version of the Serpent?

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Date: 2019-01-12 04:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danielsobieraj
Apologies for being late to the party!

Any chance of this chart being included as an illustration in forthcoming volumes of the Weird of Hali series? I think it would be great to have this handy in the next volume.


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Date: 2019-01-12 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danielsobieraj
Thank you John, I shall do that.

Your response reminds me of another set of authors I enjoy reading. I have all of their works signed, but they occasionally release special "never before released" short stories or images like this in an e-mail list, and I do print them off and place them inside the books for when I do a reread. I'll do the same with this handy chart!


Date: 2019-01-13 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mesosylvania
Ha! I'm starting to think a good close read of your Paths of Wisdom (which I haven't had the pleasure of doing) would be a great accompaniment to a reread of the Weird of Hali series.


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