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Ham Week Meal Plan

Date: 2026-01-02 06:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] prayergardens
Well - this fits in nicely with our host's New Year's Day Lucky eating plan.

Every year for Christmas, we have a relative who sends us a ham. It's very nice of them but even if ham was our favorite thing, eating it all in a short amount of time would send our sodium levels sky high. So we've evolved a ham eating plan that puts a lot of it into freezer meal prep to eat the rest of the winter.

Phase 1 - Ham, Egg and Cheese Breakfast Sandwiches. We eat a few of these during Ham Week and fully cook a number more to put in the freezer for fast/to-go breakfasts. This year I put up 24 sandwiches. This used to be a lot harder when I individually fried the eggs but now I bulk bake them on a greased sheet pan. You can either put down individual eggs and pop the yolk or make a scramble and bake it to cut into even segments.

Phase 2 - Cuban Sandwiches. I'll buy and roast a pork loin or crockpot a shoulder depending on what I like at the store that day. Bonus: add adobo and orange juice for flavor or go plain. We happened to be on Phase 2 on New Year's Day this year - good timing! For freezer meals - I'll dice it all and make dinner sized portions to go in freezer containers that are 50% ham and 50% pork. When it's time to eat it, thaw the day before, broil with some cheese and dress with mustard and pickles fresh. The dice makes it a little easier to handle the uneven shapes even if it switches us from a pressed sandwich to a grinder style. I got 10 dinners packets put away so we'll eat it once a week for the near future.

Phase 3 - New Orleans style red beans and rice. I'll save the bone and scraps for this dish. This year I put it away in the freezer and will probably do this around Mardi Gras. We'll eat it as a main dish for a few days and then it will end up as part of a taco or chili mix.

Other things I've done over the years:
-ham and cheese scones (just add a 1/2 cup each in small dice to your favorite scone recipe). Very good but doesn't use up enough ham when you need to use up the ham!
-ham and cheese breakfast enchiladas. Dice ham and cheese and put into tortillas in a baking dish. Instead of enchilada sauce, make scrambled egg base and add in liquid form over all the enchiladas and bake until the eggs are done. This is nice if you've got a crowd for breakfast. Top with green onions.
-Roll up ham and cheese in pizza dough to make a stromboli.

If you've got any ham recipe favorites - let me know. There's a chance our family will send us another ham for Easter!

Re: Ham Week Meal Plan

Date: 2026-01-03 01:27 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
We do similar with hams-- cut it up and freeze it in manageable portions.

When you get down to the bone in the middle, it's hard to get all the meat off, so I save that for bean soup: put it in the pressure cooker with *just* enough liquid (water or any broth I have going) for soup-- it's easy to overdo and you don't need to cover the whole bone-- and pressure cook it for 30-35 minutes. Scrape remaining bits off the bone and then bury the bone in the yard (calcium poor soil: the trees like it). Then add whatever chopped veg I have around: onion, peppers, garlic, celery, carrots even a bit of greens (not too much), cook those, then add a squeeze of lime or a spoon of vinegar, cooked beans (I use black, pinto and/or cannelini: most anything will do), some hominy kernels, salt, pepper, cumin, oregano, and cilantro if I've got it. Heat through and it's good to go. I go for a pretty thick soup, YMMV.

The kids are also fond of a simple dish where we just cook rice with diced carrots and peas and a generous amount of butter, salt and pepper, and at the end add some diced ham. Handy one-dish thing when we don't feel like using every saucepan in the house :)

Re: Ham Week Meal Plan

Date: 2026-01-03 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My mother has the habit of grinding ham in the food processor and putting it in quart size freezer bags when she has too much. It stacks up easily and stores easily. When she needs ham for a quiche, chili, or soup, she defrosts a bag, sautes it in bacon fat, and uses it. It's also a good replacement for bacon bits in a salad or on potatoes.

Re: Ham Week Meal Plan

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Garden Hods

Date: 2026-01-02 07:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] atmosphericriver
Well, I did make some garden Hods out of scrap wood, 3 of which went out as Christmas presents, filled with some home canned items ( apple pie slices, apple juice, apple butter, some jam).Overallit turned out well, and I am glad to have spent time with this skill building activity. My offspring appreciated them also. This is frugal due to cost savings over buying them new, and also in terms of skill building.

I used old, ripped out pine interior siding, and a few wider boards that used to be book shelves. However, more cash than I would have thought went into 4 different sizes of wood screws and galvanized 1/4 inch hardware cloth. SO, the wood savings was so minimal as a percentage of the rest of expenses, it would have been easier construction with new, knot free pines boards over the almost 50 year old wood I used.

I actually enjoy working with wood, I am not very good or experienced with it, so this is also skill building. I had to clean up and put the old small table saw in the garage to use, I havent used a table saw in decades, so that was the first apprehension to overcome. The plan I used was the Planet Whizbang plans. My first thoughts on it is I would have loved more details on how to implement the design ! The design pages are more about what to buy and what the design is, not how to construct or any tips. There are many Garden Hod designs online, some free ideas too, some simpler or potentially less costly than this one. But, I must say, this one is very sturdy. Much more sturdy than some others. If you own one of those staple nail nail guns, you could make a simpler one much more quickly, and be able to use 1/2 inch hardware cloth.

The one place this design doesnt work as stated is the handle, as his instructions are to have 1 inch doweling with a 1 inch hole, and he says to sand down the doweling on the first inch each side to 7/8" so that swelling will not crack the wood. I did as I was asked and then the doweling of course would slide right out ! And I had pieces for 4 hods all made to spec and it was close to Christmas. I was scared at that point of splitting the wood, a neighbor brainstormed with me and we decided on a predrilled hole with a single panel nail ( ridged to not pull out easily) at the top of each handle end. This seems to work well.

As for hardware cloth, I had envisioned using hardware cloth I had, but mine is 1/2inch, so when I got to that I ended up buying a small roll of 1/4 inch, because of how to fasten, but I must say the stuff had serious quality issues ! The grid was no where near parallel and there were unsightly globs of galvanized coating. I managed to get it onto 3, and the 4th, mine, I am going to figure out how to just use the 1/2 inch, which is much more evenly constructed and is what I have.

I still very much enjoyed the process, just peacefully working with the wood for most of the time, and the outcome, the Garden Hods, look nice and are extremely sturdy. Maybe now that I have used the table saw again, and I had lots of cuts to make to make use of that lap siding ( like cutting off the laps, and cross cutting ) I will be less shy about other things that come up around the house that need rip cuts. ALthough, I still wont do any long rip cuts or try to manipulate large full sized plywood !

Re: Garden Hods

Date: 2026-01-03 12:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] atmosphericriver
I actually did the math wrong there, using salvaged wood saved 1/3 of the cost making them, so that is significant. And, all weird cut offs and scraps are fantastic kindling, which was the original best use before I thought of using for the garden hods.

Re: Garden Hods

Date: 2026-01-03 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Excellent! DIYing useful things out of scrounged wood is a superb skill to be cultivating.

On salvaged/found/previously used wood

A few things to note about using salvaged or found wood:

  • It can have nails or staples in them that can damage your tools badly, and - when using power tools - cause pieces of metal to go flying through the air like little bullets. Be very sure that there are no nails or staples in every single piece before you start working it - they can be invisible! Small handheld metal detectors exist for this purpose and are very affordable. They'll save you quite a bit if you'll be using this kind of wood often, since you're likely to encounter at least one nasty piece of metal eventually and that can mean a new blade or worse.
  • It can of course also be warped in various ways. Flattening it is a job for a hand plane or a powered jointer. Make sure it's fairly flat before you try to run it through a table saw to avoid higher risk of blade binding or kickback. Don't run strongly cupped or bowed pieces through for the same reason. Hand tools can work this stuff without much problem though, if you can handle the wind, bowing, or cupping in the final product.

On Table Saws

Having access to a good table saw is very useful. While I prefer (as I wrote below) hand tools, there's nothing wrong with having a good power tool and knowing how to use it well (and, importantly, when to use it and when not to).

In the interest of furthering both agendas (more utility from your table saw as well as the ability to not need it when it isn't the right tool), here are a few of my thoughts which you or others might find helpful:

Keep your blades sharp. Yes, table saw blades can be sharpened! I wouldn't encourage you to do this by hand, though. It's not too expensive to take them to a local shop that offers this service. Ask around at the independent hardware and lumber yards in your area and you'll pretty quickly get a recommendation on where to take your blades. A good sharpening is less than half the cost of a new blade, and blades can be resharpened several times before the carbide tips have completely worn away. Cuts are cleaner and cooler with a sharp blade, which makes the motor run better and lengthens the service life of the whole saw as well. My favourite circular saw blades are by Freud (the "diablo" series), and they're worth the money you spend on them in my opinion. While I use hand tools nearly exclusively now, I grew up with a variety of table, circular, and radial-arm saws in the workshop, and I've used a wide variety of blades over the years. I kept coming back to these. There may be slightly less expensive blades that are just as good for casual use, but to me the "savings" in cost isn't worth the risk of finding out that "value" blade just isn't up to snuff.

If you want to do more things with your table saw, such as safe and precise crosscutting or miters of various kinds, you might consider making one of Fred Bingham's "sliding auxiliary table" jigs (he details this in his book "Boat Joinery and Cabinetmaking Simplified", and scatters very interesting hints about how to use it throughout the text, but I cannot find any information about it online through a quick search). It makes using a table saw safer and more precise for those who don't have high end fences and fancy guides. In short, it's a sliding fence that keys into the miter gauge grooves on a table saw, remaining square to the blade, and permitting you to affix the work to it through a variety of other jigs and fences you can make yourself to suit your needs. Since the whole fence slides with the work, the work can be tightly affixed to it (even clamped) so your hands remain far away from the blade and the cut is more controlled. There's also far less chance of the work tilting or slipping as you proceed through the cut, which could cause the saw to bind or leave you with an edge that isn't straight.

Table saws take up a lot of room, though. If you're not ripping long stuff or sheet goods (plywood, etc) and especially if you're not doing it very often, you might consider trading / selling it and getting a bandsaw instead. Bandsaws are safer, quieter (in general), and take up a lot less floor space. A bandsaw with a tilting table that has a groove for a sliding "miter gauge" is exceptionally useful for making small stuff that feature angles (you can use this nifty tool on a table saw too, but I would prefer the SLAT that I mention above as it does more tricks and is safer on that tool, but on a bandsaw it's the bee's knees).

And I would encourage you to consider learning how to use a handsaw (note the h :) for crosscuts and short rips, too. Grabbing one and just doing the job is often faster than setting up the table saw. And they take less room and make safer dust. Knowing how and when to use all these types of saws will let you know whether or not that table saw is worth the space it's taking up!

-- V.O.G

Sadly obligatory: Power tools are very dangerous and need to be used with full understanding of the risks and with full safety protection equipment, including dust collection. (Power tool dust is very fine and is a known carcinogen.) You, the reader, alone are responsible for the safe operation of your power or hand tools. I disclaim any and all liability resulting from this or any other post of mine regarding woodworking.

Re: Garden Hods

From: [personal profile] atmosphericriver - Date: 2026-01-03 09:39 pm (UTC) - Expand

wood dust control

From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2026-01-06 01:20 am (UTC) - Expand
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I use a Year-At-A-Glance calendar to track everything my family does for a year. It hangs in the dining room. Most useful! Get the biggest one that will fit on your wall.

Using the Year-At-A-Glance calendar led directly to this month's frugal tip.

Use your calendar or logbook or journal or mega-to-do list on the fridge and schedule all those things that need to be done weekly, monthly, quarterly, semi-annually, or annually. This way, you don't forget.

Thus, monthly, we change the furnace filter, dust the ceiling fans, dump and refill the Mosquito Bucket of Doom (not in the dead of winter), hang out charcoal deodorizers and bathtub scrubbies for a thorough airing, clip cat claws, and so forth.

Quarterly, I rotate the mattress and wash the mattress pad, scrub the bathroom thoroughly, shake out the unfinished basement rugs, and sweep the unfinished basement.

Annually, we clean out the dryer vents. If we used the dryer all the time, we'd do this semi-annually.

You get the idea.
You're scheduling those things that should be done -- whatever they are -- so you don't forget them.

That is to say, if you dust your mirrors once a quarter, they'll never need dusting.

Routine maintenance according to a schedule keeps things working much longer and how thrifty is that?

Use what you have...food version

Date: 2026-01-02 10:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michele7
Teresa from Hershey posted a few Fridays ago about taking inventory of everything you have so you know what you have and don't buy something you already have. The same goes for food. I have four different pantry areas in our house and in the process of moving items, I discovered I have a lot of multiples of the same item or many versions of a food item. I have at least five different vinegars. I have five different types of rice. Having a good pantry is beneficial, but only if you use what you buy. My goal is to find recipes that use my more frivolous food buys. I'm a sucker for an Asian supermarket and have more containers of miso than people in my family! Does anyone have a fabulous method for organizing their pantry?

Re: Use what you have...food version

Date: 2026-01-02 11:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] atmosphericriver
I did something similar, I didnt keep track of the canned butter I had and ended up buying more during COVID. So, I dont need to buy butter for a while, although for my candy making for Christmas I did buy 2 pounds of domestic butter as the recipes may depend on that specific moisture/fat. The butter was in the more remote pantry area. Having butter always at hand in shelf stable cans is not a bad thing.

But, I am organized, which is why I figured out I had more stored than needed. Going thru each area annualy at a minimum is a good idea, put it on Theresa
s calendar idea. Any back up area you cant realy see, make a list of what is there. Rotate, pull older items forward.

I dont keep 5 types of rice, I might be more basic of the staple foods, but I can have random items that are smaller.

Maybe one pantry area is your one you are actively pulling from, so when you start to run low on items there, you consult your master list, on the clipboard in that area, and go to area B to fill up the basmati rice jar, for example. Once you move the last pounds of basmati rice to the current use pantry jar, you immediately put basmati rice on your list to go buy a new 25 pound bag. That would be my recommendation. Same for brown rice and sushi rice etc...

I keep having a nagging feeling that my home canned jars and shelves in my active pantry area are too vulnerable ( earthquake). Don't worry, that doesnt mean imminent risk, but it keeps pulling at me that I need to address it sooner rather than later. So, soon, I will actually be boxing up onto the floor items that are now very beautifully displayed and easy to see. I will label boxes and make a master list until such time that earhtquake prep can ever be implemented in the pantry. which will mean glass jarred foods always in a cardboard box, the shelves adjusted to that height for have them in boxes, the shelves connected to the wall or ceiling and some kind of bulk bungy cord macreme to keep the boxes from easily sliding off.

Because your point is correct, putting it aside is not enough, we need to use it and have it not go bad ( or break) before we can use it.

(no subject)

Date: 2026-01-03 12:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] prayergardens
ooh - miso is one of my secret umami ingredients that I sneak into a lot of things. That's a good stash to have!

I keep a deep pantry in the basement and label 5 gallons buckets by numbers with tape and keep a spiral notebook nearby with what's in the bucket and when it was purchased. I don't do a perfect FIFO, sometimes something goes bad but it's minimal.

I did used to keep food in those 20 gallon rubbermaid totes but mice got into those (without the snap lid, ugh lesson learned), so everything that isn't in a can goes in a gamma lid sealed bucket even if it's not the most efficient spacewise. I keep home canned goods in the basement too and try to move things left to right by age on the shelf and then pull from the right side.

I am also guilty of the impulse sale purchase ("Apricot jam with no sugar for $0.75 a jar, I'll definitely use that!") so sometimes I put one - just ONE - challenge ingredient of something I wonder why I bought next to the stove and it stays there until I use it in some creative way. The usual answer is if it's savory it ends up chili and if it's sweet it ends up in a pot of oatmeal.

Pantry organization

Date: 2026-01-06 01:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My basement has some semi-finished rooms: 2x4 studs with paneling on the nice side, open studs on the other (e.g., toward the washer and dryer). I put shelves between the studs, just the right depth for 1-lb cans of soup, canned beans, tomatoes, etc. Each has a date of purchase written on it, and it's all visible at once. If I were worried about earthquakes, I'd put wire-mesh doors over the shelves, but that's not an issue here.

Dry beans, peas, rice, etc. go into plastic jars (which originally held peanut butter). If they fall, they probably won't even spill, much less shatter into dangerous shards.

Where I have deep shelves, I pack six pint jars to a wooden orange crate, and swap the crates as empty jars replace the full ones.

Lathechuck

Woodworking

Date: 2026-01-03 01:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Woodworking is a wonderful way to learn some very practical skills and save (potentially quite a lot) of money. On the topic of frugality it ought to score fairly highly: it's good exercise[^1]; it's productive labour; it's quite satisfying mentally and physically; it enables the use and re-use of renewable resources and discarded furniture; it can be powered exclusively by hand at a rate of production that is practical and practicable by the average person to suit the average household even when done as a "free-time" task; and the tools and workspace to get meaningfully started can be, with care, themselves frugally obtained.

However, if you're comparing a quality handmade piece of solid-wood furniture with any mass-produced piece of shale from a four-lettered blue-and-yellow store, you'll have to do a little careful thinking when you realize that just the raw materials cost for your little project might exceed the finished cost of the four-letter-store's product by a factor of two or more. This is because of a false equivalence: furniture that will last is a better use of time, effort, and resources than furniture that was produced using toxic chemicals[^2] and will most likely become landfill material in a few years of ordinary household use. While it may cost you more in the short term, you'll reconsider whether it was really necessary and, if the answer is yes, you'll have saved yourself the need to ever buy it again. Plus, you'll have the satisfaction of doing it yourself and knowing you could do it again.

With that in mind here are some ways I've learned to make it work, frugally, while being personally rewarding and satisfying.

(TL;DR A basic set of quality, well chosen, used hand tools that you have taught yourself how to care for can permit you to build a very large array of necessary and useful furniture to as high as level of quality as your skill and available time permits. And acquiring the skills is very easy these days, since in addition to excellent resources the material and process teaches you as you make things.)

Note: The most important thing is to actually start doing it. Start making small items of furniture, start modifying furniture or your home yourself, start actually making pretty much anything and it gets easier to make more complex or challenging projects.

1. Work in whatever space you have available to you.

One thing I've recently figured out is that you don't need a shop or very expensive tools to start doing work that would be perfectly suitable to use for a lifetime and durable enough to pass down to your children and grandchildren too. In fact, you can make a wide range of useful, practical, and necessary items of basic furniture, from chests to chairs, stools to shelving, in virtually any common space in your home you're willing to permit to be temporarily transformed into a "shop". Yes, even if you're worried about sawdust and all that (more on this below).

Even if you live in a tiny apartment in the middle of a major city you can obtain decent quality wood and build very nice things if you're thoughtful about how you set up a workspace. Temporary (set up after dinner, tear down before bedtime) workspaces can be used to advantage in this situation - I built a classic English toolchest in exactly such a setup, using a 3-foot section of kitchen counter and a few 5-gallon buckets on the floor as a temporary workshop and doing one step at a time in my spare time, evenings and weekends, clearing it all away as needed for meal prep. Sure it's slower, but it's entirely doable!

2. Use hand tools, not power tools.

If you have power tools and know how to use them or are interested in learning, there's nothing wrong with that at all. However, even in that case using hand tools may surprise you with their versatility, flexibility, and general, well, hand-y-ness. They also leave an unmistakeably pleasant texture to the wood that machines just don't.

Hand tools have many advantages over power tools:

  • They usually require less setup time and can be simply picked up and used. Machines often need to be adjusted, tweaked, angles checked, etc. before each set of identical operations. One-off pieces of furniture don't have a lot of identical parts, and over-reliance on machines can become a drag on your workflow rather than a benefit.
  • They don't create micro-fine dust, so you don't need protective equipment and your furniture or kitchenware isn't going to be covered in a fine haze of dust when you're done. No masks or plastic sheeting on the sofa necessary! Plane shavings, hand-saw dust, and the common grades of sandpaper create large particles that fall down directly in the area you're working and can be swept up. This is a big part of the magic of letting you work in whatever space you have available.
  • They're quiet by comparison (except for hammering and mortising, which is always on the noisy side, but that's not the majority of the work anyway), so suitable for apartment dwellers (I know, I am one and I've built several nice pieces in my kitchen).
  • They work in locations that have limited or no access to electrical power.
  • They're affordable - you can still easily find top quality used tools from 100 years ago for fair prices and in very usable shape - no major metalworking required to get them operational. There are modern vendors making fine reproductions at (also) fair prices. Avoid the cheap and shoddy knockoffs, do "the frugal thing" of either buying (or finding) used first, and quality well-made new second, and over time you'll come to have a very nice toolchest (which hopefully you made yourself!) full of tools that will last several more lifetimes yet with reasonable care.
  • They're healthy exercise and build skill, confidence, and thoughtfulness in use. These attributes extend to many other areas of your life, too. However, they don't require you to be a buff, strong, muscled individual at all. Slim folks, lightly muscled folks, even children who are competent and willing to respect rules and carefully control their motions can do meaningful, professional-quality woodworking with reasonable practice.

3. Go antique or used when you can

and

4. Maintain your tools yourself.

These two are pretty self-explanatory and interestingly, somewhat related.

Learning enough about tools to care well for them helps you be able to identify quality used tools wherever possible, and to bring them into working order without a great deal of hardship.

Sharpening tends to be the part that puts a lot of people off. I went from knowing almost nothing about most hand tools to sharpening all my plane blades and chisels solely from reading books and blogs posts and then simply trying. The best advice I got on the subject was simple: almost all of the major methods for getting tools sharp work well. Pick one and stick with it until you're really good at it before you consider another. (I chose Japanese waterstones and a honing guide, and the combo works very well for me.)

5. Reduce the cost of raw materials

While wood might not be very cheap on the market (though, arguably in relationship to its relative value and increasing scarcity for many species, it could be considered underpriced), there are a variety of ways to obtain useful raw materials at much reduced prices:

  • If you're willing to put in the effort, knowing people who cut trees, or need trees cut can score you "green" logs. With some axe and froe use you can rive beautiful straight pieces out of these for chairmaking. Green-wood work is its own art form, too (look up the Scandinavian "shrink pot" tradition of carving containers for another example of working freshly cut wood).
  • Rural lumberyards are often very willing to make deals if you have access to storage and are willing to buy a larger quantity all at once.
  • Some cities sell lumber from trees they have to remove in parks or off streets at reduced prices to residents.
  • Lumber can also be obtained from older furniture that's being given away or thrown away (!), so look at those ghastly estate sale castoffs with a new eye for what they could be broken down into (as long as they're solid wood and not ply or veneer or, worse, particleboard).
  • And both estate and property-clearance sales occasionally include lots of lumber stored in old barns, garages, or whatnot, where the previous owners may have forgotten about them or never got around to using them. There are some real bargains if you've got the ability to get there and haul it off.

Finally, let's break down two common misconceptions:

You don't need a parent who was a master craftsman, a college degree, or even basic advanced education to do a quite nice job - be willing to teach yourself and learn how to do useful work at whatever standard you can work to now, while using that work to improve your skills and thus expand what you can do next. Youths aged 12-16 used to turn out perfectly good furniture as part of various wood shop programs throughout modern history, a great many of them using only manual hand tools to do so (after the rough planks had been cut from the tree, of course).

You don't need to make "high-end" stuff, either (unless you want to!). Realize that there is a huge (but often overlooked or forgotten) historical record to draw on of simple, rustic, but very beautiful and functional furniture that was made by hand for centuries, and thus you don't need to be aiming for "fine" furniture to get something really lovely, handmade, practical, and long-lasting. There's a wide middle ground between "ghastly and probably unsafe" and "rococo".

This history of delightful but un-fancy furniture is often simply called "vernacular furniture" or "furniture of necessity" which through the centuries produced the majority of the stools, chairs, settles, tables, chests, aumbries, bedframes, armoires, and other necessary items of household organization and utility in the era before industrialization. Many of them were made with very few tools indeed - often an axe and froe as the core of the kit (along with, variously, bowsaws, a drawknife, one or two chisels, an awl or gimlet, and perhaps a plane or two). The wood was often rived green and assembled in ways that permitted it to dry in place. Spindles were often shaved or turned on a "pole lathe" which was a simple affair that required no fancy parts. All tools were made by hand by blacksmiths at those times, as were nails (which made them astonishingly expensive by modern standards, and thus avoided whenever possible through the use of clever joinery until cut nail manufacturing brought the prices down significantly).

There are plenty of books you can find that teach how to get started with these techniques. The older ones are usually better - since the '80's or so there has been a glut of fairly "bleh" books of all varieties on woodworking and it can be easy to get lost in the offerings, each of them revised, updated, or outright replaced every year or two. A few independent publishers have reprinted historical books and translations of historical books on the subject which are very useful for one wishing to learn, and there are some quality instructional courses taught by video if that's your thing. Beware of the books put out by the bigger woodworking magazines and associated publishers, though - that's usually mediocre at best (in my opinion) and over-reliant on power tools. And even moreso beware of the vast amount of both awful and often unsafe or inefficient "advice" and "how-tos" on YouTube about woodworking. It can be very hard to sort the wheat from the chaff online. Your local library may or may not be a great help here, too, but it never hurts to check.

-- V.O.G

Footnotes:

[^1]: but not, please note, requisite to have a strong or athletic physique, or even much of a physique at all - scrawny middle-schoolers have learned how to turn out decent work.

[^2]: The particleboard making the bulk of "wood" products, and the foil lamination (the fake-wood or solid-coloured appearance) on the surface are commonly made or attached with glues that are basically plastics, some of which off-gas formaldehyde vapours and other harmful chemicals. All of it breaks down in daily use much faster than solid wood does, and - unlike solid wood - cannot be meaningfully repaired.

Re: Woodworking

Date: 2026-01-03 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] robertmathiesen
V.O.G. is right on target about the ease and comfort of woodworking. And hand tools are definitely the way to go if careful work is your thing: they make slow and steady work easy. Using power tools, you are tempted to work much too rapidly, and thus be less careful in your work.

Also, by and large older hand tools are much better quality than recently manufactured ones. Many of ours came down to me or to my wife from our parents and grandparents, a very few even from our great-grandparents. Both of our fathers knew their way around wood-working, and had home workshops, and taught us a lot. Her father's father had even been a house carpenter in his younger years.

All the boys had to take elementary shop courses in my Junior High School (7th-9th grades) in Berkeley way back then: wood shop, metal shop, print shop (setting moveable type and working a hand-powered printing press), and mechanical drawing. It's really a shame that such courses seem to have gone by the wayside now.

So when we bought our own house back in 1974, I was able to do a lot of the woodworking myself to put built-in shelves where we needed them, make free-standing wooden bookcases, and mend our hand-me-down furniture when it broke or wore out.

A lot of excellent older books on wood-working, long out of copyright, can be found and downloaded from www.survivorlibrary.com/

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Date: 2026-01-03 07:46 pm (UTC)
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It is great to encourage people to do woodworking and how wonderful it is to be able to make by hand and to encourage it, and while you dont need to be the most buff man to do so, it is not true that everyone can just do all their woodworking with handtools. For example, I am an older, smaller female. And, yes, some older smaller females can do more than I can physically. There are some things I can do with hand tools, and have, I have a brace, for example, for making holes for lag bolts, etc...

WHile some things are fine with hand tools. I made stall doors for my barn rebuild, I could not have done that with hand tools, maybe someone could, but there is no way I could cut a straight line on a sheet of plywood with a hand saw, I am not that strong. I could theoretically do a stall door with hand tools if I buy dimensional lumber, so with tongue and grove or lap siding boards from the lumber yard, then I could theoretically, just make cross cuts on those 6 inch boards in a jig, which I do have. That would have been much more expensive, especially since I was using leftover plywood offcuts from the barn walls.

But, the main problem is that my personal physical limitations would make it impossible. Not everyone at every age and gender can do this all by hand. Sure, I can make cross cuts by hand, not alot a day. The reality in true a world made by hand scenario is that someone else would need to do that work while I could by hand sew or cook or garden, read aloud to the assembled group, etc... -- not build larger projects. There is no way I can use an axe or a froe, I have seen it done by a neighbor, I cant do that physically. When I was younger, maybe.

Even the small projects I just did, the garden hods, there was alot of ripping of small pieces off of those wider boards, so there are 8 inch wide boards, and I need to first rip off the thin edge as it was lap siding, and then make it into 1.5 and 2 inch wide pieces. It is possible for someone to do this by hand, with the right clamps and the strength to keep a steady hand down the length of the board, but I cant do that. Now, I can just buy dimensional lumber that is 2 inches wide and make cross cuts by hand, and for a small project like a garden hod that is doable. I often have the lumber yard take care of this for me when I buy wood, they will rip a long board down from 5.5 inches wide to 4 inches wide ( this has come up as my house is old and sometimes I need to match and have a "true" 4 inch wide piece of lumber), or I sometimes have them cut the large plywood sheet to a smaller size, I pay for this of course. And, I do recommend this if needed, then you can use hand tools and build. Just bring home that lumber in the correct thickness and width so you just have to make cross cuts or drill holes with a brace for inserting connecting dowels or put in nails or screws by hand.

You can also build by hand using branches from your yard, There are books on this, twig and branch building of furniture, and you can even make a garden hod this way. Most current people doing this are connecting them with a powered screw gun, but you absolutely can do this by hand.

When my youngest was in 3rd grade, I had her and another child help me build a 3 bin compost bin using hand tools. We bought the redwood as dimensional lumber and only had to make cross cuts, I was younger and there were 3 of us. I think what we did is they helped me build the main actual frame all by hand, as that was not that many cross cuts or bolts to use the brace for. They loved doing this, then hammered on the hardware cloth. We did a cob pizza oven at her place on a tire foundation, and learned square feet concepts by measuring her hallway that needed to be painted, and my roof.

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Downsizing

Date: 2026-01-03 02:12 pm (UTC)
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I have recently downsized from a 90 square meter house to a 19 square meter apartment. You really don't know how much trash you have collected until you do! So many things I don't use that I have given to thrift shops and friends, things that were just collecting dust and taking up space. And the money I will be able to save once I have sold the house is just mind boggling... I'm going from spending roughly 600 dollars, some months more, to spending 200 dollars on rent and electricity and internet... I suspect I may spend some more money on food now that I live in a city because of having restaurants nearby but I will save so much money anyway. I've lived in my apartment for about a month now and I truly do not miss the house!

MWT

Re: Downsizing

Date: 2026-01-06 12:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mistyfriday
Over the last 4 years I've moved 8 times to a variety of living situations. The most constraining of which was staying in a new hotel room every week for three months.

I found the hotels particularly interesting because volume, weight, and pack times became priorities. Nothing compares to living out of a suitcase to shift your mindset from what can I part with? to what do I actually need? The former mindset focuses on space as the limiting factor, while the latter focuses on meeting daily needs with the least amount of hassle.

The experience changed my purchase habits and helped clarify priorities.

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Date: 2026-01-06 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What are some good alternatives to HVAC to keep houses warm in the winter and cool in the summer?

Summer cooling

Date: 2026-01-07 08:03 pm (UTC)
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We live in central Florida in an old mobile home. Our HVAC was costing us over $300 a month during the summer to cool our double wide trailer. After having to repair it a few times, we decided to stop using the HVAC and put in window AC units. Our highest bill in the summer was $169 to run 4 window units. It isn't convenient to put in and take out the units, but the savings is worth it. We use space heaters during the cold spells we have here.

Keeping your house warmer and cooler

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HVAC alternatives

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using what you have

Date: 2026-01-06 11:51 pm (UTC)
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Like a lot of people who do arts and crafts, I've accreted a lot of materials over the years. So for the next few months I'll be trying pretty hard to minimize what I buy in favor of using up what I have. I'm spinning and weaving my way through my fluff and yarn stashes right now, for example. And painting minis from my pile of gray. Or drawing and painting with the supplies I have.

As to what I'll still be buying, I'll probably buy some ultramarine watercolor paint in the next few weeks, for example. Since I am very low on it and it's getting difficult to use the tiny bit on the sides of the pan and this makes painting watercolors more awkward. And I am much better at spinning cool weft yarns than I am strong warp yarns, so at some point I may need to buy more strong yarn if I am to weave everything I want to. For now though, I am making some pretty good dents in stashes, and am up a dishcloth, a hat, and am partway through two handbags.

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Date: 2026-01-09 01:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If you want to reduce your dependence on electricity, use a wringer washer for washing your clothes. They are much easier and less time consuming than washing clothes by hand, and they do not use electricity, unlike modern washing machines. Then, for drying clothes just hang them up on a clothesline to air dry them instead of using a tumble dryer.

wringer washer

Date: 2026-01-09 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Do you have any more information/details/examples on wringer washers?

lehmans

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wringers

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recipe needed

Date: 2026-01-10 12:14 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was gifted with several cans of good quality tuna. In warmer months it's fairly easy to come up with good recipes for tuna salad. For colder months something hardier is more appealing to me. I was thinking along the lines of a 'traditional' tuna casserole (a creamy dish with noodles, mushrooms and other veggies). However, the only recipes I could find rely on canned soups (including cream of mushroom) which I don't care for for various reasons (ultra-high sodium levels, for starters, & I'm not anti-salt). A casserole made from scratch sounds good, but recipes don't seem to exist.

So - from the FFF Commentariat - Please! Any from-scratch tuna casserole recipe suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Re: recipe needed

Date: 2026-01-10 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Not exactly a casserole, but in my salad days I was fond of putting a savoury version of tuna salad (add chopped onion, garlic, omit anything sweet like apples if you put those in), gussied up with some extra spices (cayenne, cumin, paprika, etc.) on a slice of bread, topping that with cheese slices, and sticking that in the toaster until the cheese melted. Adjust the consistency of your tuna salad to handle the short-term heat (you don't want a super wet one), and toast the bread first - it keeps it from getting soggy as it absorbs some of the liquid.

I'm sure someone who makes casseroles more frequently than I do could turn that idea into one - maybe chop bread into 1" squares, toast them, and stir that into tuna salad, put the mess into a pan, top with cheese, and bake?

-- V.O.G

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Refrigerator Pickles from Extra Cucumber

Date: 2026-01-10 12:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I love to get an English cucumber from time to time, but can usually only get half way through it before it starts to go bad-- The solution to this one is so obvious that I had to smack my forehead, "D-Oh!"--
After eating as much fresh cucumber as I want, I slice the rest up, put it in a canning jar, cover with vinegar and some dill, and voila! Refrigerator pickles!
They taste great, and keep for a longer time in the fridge than the cucumber would have.

Even easier (after the second "D-Oh!"), pour the leftover pickle juice from that jar of pickles you just finished, OVER the cucumber slices. That pickling brine still has some mileage left on it.

Forehead hurts a bit now, but the extremely fresh pickles are worth it!

35% reduction in electricity bill

Date: 2026-01-12 12:23 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Guys,
We were a bit surprised when we got our last electricity bill. The bill noted that we used 35% less electricity than in the same period last year.

We were not trying to reduce our electricity consumption but I had started doing two new things. The first is that my washing machine only has settings for a large or small load. I started washing medium loads on the small setting. I turn the machine off after it starts agitating enough to mix the clothes, borax and a bit of detergent. I soak the clothes for at least two hours and then turn the machine back on. The extra long soak gets the clothes very clean without a lot of water being used.

The second thing I did was to put a large soup pot on top of my wood stove and filled it with water. I need to check it every few hours so that it does not run dry. I use the boiling water to wash dishes. I pour the boiling water into the sink and add cold water until it is comfortable to work in and then rinse the dishes in a pan of cold water.

Those two things seem to have been enough to reduce our electricity expense by 35%.
Maxine

Re: 35% reduction in electricity bill

Date: 2026-01-13 05:35 pm (UTC)
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Is there also a difference in weather from last year ( a hot water tank uses more electricity when it is colder)? I am confused by this also. Are you washing your clothes with hot water only ? Even if so, the difference in clothes washing and dishwashing water would only be if the water was heated and these 2 uses are not nearly as much hot water as bathing or other electricity uses around the house.

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Flying Tips

Date: 2026-01-16 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stardot
(1) I carry an empty reusable water bottle through airport security. After clearing security, I fill it in the terminal. Staying hydrated while flying is free.

(2) I also carry a few energy gels through security. The 3-1-1 rule applies. There are several commercial gel options. The basic idea is to eat one gel for every 30 to 45 min of active exercise, but flying is sedentary, so the effect of eating them lasts longer. Gels are easier to carry than regular food, and I find it takes the edge of feeling hungry if you want to avoid purchasing the pricey airport food.

(3) I also carry some caffeinated foods like caffeinated chocolate pieces or caffeinated energy gels through security. Caffeinated drinks in the terminal are expensive. Coffee on the aircraft is free, and the crew usually provides as many refills as you want.

Re: Flying Tips

Date: 2026-01-23 04:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mistyfriday
This seems more like a tip for layovers, but definitely bring snacks and an empty water bottle in your 'personal item' if you're going to spend a prolonged period in airports. This also works as a hedge in case of gate changes or late arrivals on your first flight.

My go to choice for flying is electrolyte drink powders (single use packets or TSA will do swab testing), chocolate covered coffee beans, and a big bag of beef jerky.

Credit Card Alternatives

Date: 2026-01-16 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stardot
When dealing with local businesses - and occasionally a larger corporation - inquire into paying with cash or check. Sometimes there will be a discount, because using cash or check avoids credit card transaction fees. This can save money for both the customer and the seller.

Contact Lens Care

Date: 2026-01-16 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stardot
I wear contact lenses. I use two different solutions for their care. I use sterile saline to rinse the lenses themselves and to clean the lens case, but I use the disinfecting solution to store them in the lens case. This is because sterile saline costs much less (about $4.00/bottle) than the disinfecting solution (about $10.00/bottle). Why use the expensive stuff to rinse your lenses and clean the lens case? A two-solution system has saved me a lot of money over the years.
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Date: 2026-01-31 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Not a casserole, but I like tuna stirfry. I just ate that for lunch,actually. tuna, soysauce, stirfry veggies(I used cabbage, carrots, onions) on sticky rice.

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