Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 180

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Noting your meme of the week, I've wondered the same thing myself. Joel Salatin says that is one of the things that he would want to do that is illegal.

Strange, isn't it?

John of Red Hook

[(Anonymous)]

Oh the power of the mighty meme; subversion.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rfk-jr-health-secretary-doctors-urge-senate-block-trump-administration-rcna186807


"The health and well being of 336 million Americans depend on leadership at HHS that prioritizes science, evidence based medicine, and strengthening the integrity of our public health system," the letter reads. "RFK Jr. is not only unqualified to lead this essential agency - he is actively dangerous."



Something like this should have been expected...


I think there will be some resistance to this change of executive, did the left learn some OpSec!?!

[drhooves]

Pot, meet Kettle.

Certainly RFK, Jr has some traits and opinions that should be discussed relative to the position. Any candidate does. I'm not even sure if his medical background is sufficient for the role.

But "actively dangerous"? Hah. That's a good one.

Today's meme

[mysteries_abound]

I honestly do not know whether to laugh or cry over today's meme. I have sent it to several people; interested to see what kind of response I get to it, if any.


MJ from MA

Poor poultry owners

[(Anonymous)]

I love this week's meme. Every time I see one of those stories in the news, it drives me nuts.

They kill millions of poultry that are not just not sick, but not even infected- perfectly healthy. And when it's a backyard flock case, they kill all the little backyard flocks for miles around. Some of those little flocks are rare and badly endangered heritage breeds that some enthusiast is keeping alive.

And it won't stop it- and that's what they can't admit to themselves. They'd have to kill every wild bird on earth.

Re: Poor poultry owners

[(Anonymous)]

The delusional, arrogant, and I-gotta-get-my-pension-oriented health authorities, whomever they may be, and of which there are evidently legion from federal to local levels, are always liable to bully the peeps, and they will keep doing whatever they can get away with that gives them the Me-Important-in-Important-Scary-Situation-on-TV good feelz.

Next up: who knows? Maybe your cats. Maybe your dogs. Maybe both.

They've already been injecting the children with poison, and shaming the parents who won't go along with it. Tey've been injecting pregnant women, for heavensakes. Oh, um, "pregnant persons," sorry.

You either fall for the bovineshale and comply or you don't.

The peeps who own the flocks that are getting destroyed, I would surmise that a story that's getting slammed out of sight right now is that a good number of them are hopping mad and getting organized.

Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

[drhooves]

I had a cold and missed Christmas dinner with my two brothers, but made it through feeling okay. Everybody here locally is doing pretty good.

But some of my extended family and a friend didn't fare so well. My cousin's spouse (65yo) passed away on Christmas Day from turbo cancer, in spite of a prognosis of 2-3 years more with treatments when he was diagnosed back in October. Another cousin who turns 62 this month let us know that he's got prostate cancer on Christmas Eve, and has opted for a six month treatment program of hormone therapy and radiation. Apparently the cancer has not spread outside of the prostate. This was very scary for him, as his father went in for surgery for prostate cancer about 20 years ago at age 70, and didn't make it. A friend of mine in Kentucky had a brain tumor 3 years ago, and had "clean" scans for a bit, but her husband let me know on New Year's Eve that recent scans have indicated spots of it are back.

Since we're starting on four years now of when the first round of Jabs were rolled out, it's going to be difficult to nail down the root cause of these kinds of cases. My family had been spared up to this point (about 30 of us all told on one side of the tree), but the numbers are catching up fast now. Even my older brother (72 yo) who has enjoyed great health his whole life has really slowed down the past few months. He got the first couple of Jabs, but no boosters AFAIK. His wife did pass away early last year though, so maybe that stress just caught up with him.

The Covid, Long Covid, and Jabbed numbers will never be accurately known. The avalanche of Big Harma commercials I saw on TV over the holidays (watching some football) tells me the "Evil Ones" are still running the show....

Re: Mixed bag on the health front over the holidays

[escorcher]

Thanks for sharing, drhooves.

It's difficult to know what may have caused or accelerated what of course. :-/

I'm in my 50s and it's been pretty quiet regards friends and family on the potential jabs related health front until Fall/Autumn last year. Now have a mate one year older than me with terminal prostate cancer, one in his 60s recovering from a major colon cancer operation and a job ending stroke in the family - 50s again. Does all seem to be going for it last few months. And don't even mention the number of long term relationships ending, mine included.
Something in the air? (You'd think we'd know by open post 180!!!)

It has been a strange week

[(Anonymous)]

Last Friday, one of a team I work with announced she was retiring because she has to do something about taking care of her health. On Sunday, my 40 year old daughter said that all of her friends, people in her age group, are getting cancer. Breast cancer, thyroid cancer, other types unspecified. Then today, Tuesday, I was told that a woman that I worked with a year ago -- probably in her 50s -- passed away from stomach cancer. That was in the last 5 days. All heavily vaxxed.

Cancer cases - datapoint

[stubborn_ass]

https://x.com/Humanspective/status/1878895874769863162

There is an embedded video if people want to watch it...

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong (LA Times owner), throws his support behind Robert F Kennedy Jr saying: “[he] knows more about the science than most doctors.”.

Stunningly, he goes on to mention “we have to face reality” about the disturbing fall out from mRNA covid vaccines and the cancer cases he’s never seen in his lifetime, or at least his clinical career:

“We’re gonna have to address the rising instances of cancer. For the first time in my career, I’ve seen an 8-year old, 9-year old, 10-year old with colon cancer.”

“For the first time in my career, I’ve had a 13-year old child in our clinic d*e of metastatic pancreatic cancer.”

Re: Cancer cases - datapoint

[stubborn_ass]

The silver lining is that it doesn't have to be an automatic death sentence, not with what we now know of HCQ, VIM, Fenben etc. Since a combination of those compounds in different strengths cures a huge variety of ailments, it would really make many well-compensated doctors redundant.

So we are observing a truly soul-testing situation - do enough certified doctors have a moral conscience left and start pushing publicly for more general usage of said compounds... or do they continue to see increasingly sick patients and profit off their eventual deaths?

Unfortunately I don't see a restoration of fertility for the affected kids, as the damage to both the male and female fertility components is much more insidious than most people figure.

Ecosophia Prayer List

[tunesmyth]

At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.

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This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.

May Frank R. Hartman, who lost his house in the Altadena fire, and all who have been affected by the larger conflagration be blessed and healed.

May MethylEthyl, who recently fractured a rib coughing, heal without complications, and have sufficient help for the move that she and hers are making at the end of the month.

May Sub's Wife's upcoming major surgery on Wednesday 1/15 go smoothly and successfully, and may she recover with ease back to full health.

May David/Trubrujah's 5 year old nephew Jayce, who is back home after chemotherapy for his leukemia, be healed quickly and fully, and may he, and mother Amanda, and their family find be aided with physical, mental, and emotional strength while they deal with this new life altering situation. (good news update!)

May Mindwind's dad Clem, who in the midst of a struggle back to normal after a head injury has been told he shows signs of congestive heart failure, be blessed, healed, and encouraged.

May Corey Benton, who is currently in hospital and whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, be healed of throat cancer. He is not doing well, and consents to any kind of distance healing offered. [Note: Healing Hands should be fine, but if offering energy work which could potentially conflict with another, please first leave a note in comments or write to randomactsofkarmasc to double check that it's safe] (1/7)

May Christian's cervical spine surgery on 1/14 be successful, and may he heal completely and with speed; and may the bad feelings and headaches plaguing him be lifted.

May Viktoria have a safe and healthy pregnancy, and may the baby be born safe, healthy and blessed. May Marko have the strength, wisdom and balance to face the challenges set before him. (picture)

May Open Space's friend's mother
Judith be blessed and healed for a complete recovery from cancer.

May Linda from the Quest Bookshop of the Theosophical Society, who has developed a turbo cancer, be blessed with a successful surgery under a steady hand when she goes into the operating room in mid January, and with well-being and a speedy recovery.

May Bill Rice (Will1000) in southern California, who suffered a painful back injury, be blessed and healed, and may he quickly recover full health and movement.

May Peter Van Erp's friend Kate Bowden's husband Russ Hobson and his family be enveloped with love as he follows his path forward with the glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has afflicted him.

May Daedalus/ARS receive guidance and finish his kundalini awakening, and overcome the neurological and qi and blood circulation problems that have kept him largely immobilised for several years; may the path toward achieving his life's work be cleared of obstacles.

May baby Gigi, continue to gain weight and strength, and continue to heal from a possible medication overdose which her mother Elena received during pregnancy, and may Elena be blessed and healed from the continuing random tremors which ensued; may Gigi's big brother Francis continue to be in excellent health and be blessed.

May Jennifer, whose pregnancy has entered its third trimester, have a safe and healthy pregnancy, may the delivery go smoothly, and may her baby be born healthy and blessed.

May Scotlyn's friend Fiona, who has been in hospital since early October with what is a diagnosis of ovarian cancer, be blessed and healed, and encouraged in ways that help her to maintain a positive mental and spiritual outlook.

May Peter Evans in California, who has been diagnosed with colon cancer, be completely healed with ease, and make a rapid and total recovery.

May Jennifer and Josiah, their daughter Joanna, and their unborn daughter be protected from all harmful and malicious influences, and may any connection to malign entities or hostile thought forms or projections be broken and their influence banished.

May Giulia (Julia) in the Eastern suburbs of Cleveland Ohio be healed of recurring seizures and paralysis of her left side and other neurological problems associated with a cyst on the right side of her brain and with surgery to treat it.

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Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

Re: Ecosophia Prayer List

[ecosophia]

Thank you for this as always.

Paul Marik's Cancer Care Document

[angelica5804]

In October Dr. Paul Marik published an extensive review of the effective use of repurposed drugs in cancer care. Another resource...
https://covid19criticalcare.com/reviews-and-monographs/cancer-care/

Re: Paul Marik's Cancer Care Document

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for sharing this, Angelica.
Sadly, I expect a large percentage of people in this forum (and in the larger world) will be dealing with friends and/or relatives who will be struck with this new 'plague'. Given the horrific treatments available via mainstream 'medicine' (and in the case of Canada, fatally long waits to even receive said horrific treatments) such protocols may be a lifesaver for many!

Ron M

[(Anonymous)]

One of my co-workers has been overly eager to get the vaxxes, racing out for each and every booster as and when they became available. Prior to that, she was always eager to go get the latest flu shot every fall. Other than an ongoing issue with asthma (and of course the steady cumulative weight gain associated with medications typically prescribed for that condition) her health was quite good, perhaps the best one could expect at the age of 63.

Last week she was found dead in her home, with no indication of the cause of death other than it appeared to have happened quite suddenly.

[(Anonymous)]

Fauci says it happened because she missed the latest booster and therefore is marked as unvaxxed in the database.

Old Crimes and New Ones

[(Anonymous)]

I was looking up some old crime novels and came across this image for the cover of a book (not the one I was looking for), and I thought it might be kind of like one of the many memes shown here:

https://doyouwriteunderyourownname.blogspot.com/2025/01/forgotten-book-dead-of-physician.html

[(Anonymous)]

I don't pay any attention to the news, but your meme explains why there were no eggs at the grocery store today.

More chickens

[(Anonymous)]

I'm adopting more chickens so I can give away more eggs. There's a shortage of eggs around here, but not of laying hens. It feels surreal.

funerals

[(Anonymous)]

As always, impossible to say for sure if it's related to the broader EGT issue, but it is becoming more difficult to keep up with obligations to attend family funerals. Missed one last week because it was too far, and I was too ill. Got another one coming within the week. Have lost six people within the second-cousin range of kinship, since the lockdowns. Three of them in the last year. One this week. Two of them in my generation, the 30-50 age range, the rest older. Feels like it's accelerating, but I don't have the stats to say, really.

The usual causes: old age, heart trouble, cancer, pancreatitis, aortic dissection...

It continues to be frustrating never to be able to say, well, this is normal as we all get older, or no, this is not normal but it's just a bad couple of years and coincidences happen, or no, this is for sure accelerating because of the EGTs. It's not polite to ask.

England Wales Annual Deaths Data

[escorcher]

Some interesting info./data coming to light from 'actuarybyday' on Bluesky comparing and presenting annual death figures from England and Wales now we have year end for 2024 available...

And the headline is we really don't have any excess death rate last year even compared to 2019. First year since 2020 this has happened.



Digging deeper, we find deaths of younger adults are still a little higher than expected and deaths of older adults are 6-8% lower.

Worth noting here is I believe the UK had some form of covid doing the rounds in the last few months of 2019 before it came again in early 2020 in a more virulent form. Maybe a third to half our population had the infection before any vixenation started. Many of our jabs when they came were not mRNA. All this probably dilutes any original antigenic sin, a particular problem if vixenated by mRNA before any infection. This obviously doesn't affect any direct vixen damage.

I still feel something is up with cancer and cardiac issues alongside immunity compromise in at least a significant minority leading to more bugs doing the rounds right now.

Feel free to comment.

Original post here:
https://bsky.app/profile/actuarybyday.bsky.social/post/3lfrjwmc76k2g
Final ONS weekly deaths data for 2024 was released this morning. 563,762 deaths registered in the year.

For the first time since the onset of the pandemic, the number of deaths is consistent with the 2010-19 trend."

Breakdown by age group here:

https://bsky.app/profile/actuarybyday.bsky.social/post/3lfs5pu43sk2v

"Death rates fell for all age groups between 2023 and 2024, but trends are very different for different age groups.

Death rates for younger adults remain significantly higher than pre-pandemic. Meanwhile older groups have seen significant mortality improvement."

Re: England Wales Annual Deaths Data

[kashtan]

It looks to me like the pull forward effect has finally be come apparent regarding the decline in deaths in the older group. The sustained increase in the younger groups tells me that things are not back to normal. The majority of deaths are of older people, so a small decline there can mask an anomalous increase in deaths among the younger population when looking at total deaths.

[(Anonymous)]

Week 180

Dear JMG and forumistas: thank you for being here.

Out and about in my vaxxed to the max city this morning I was seeing so many people who are having trouble walking. Like their feet are numb. My local pharmacy has a big sign out front for the vaccines-- "quick easy no appointment no line". Seriously. So far this winter not much masking. Things really do seem almost back to 2019, at least as far as observable custom goes. No one's talking about covid, nor bird flu. Manly what I hear is a lot of grumbling about the Bad Orange Man, and what he said about the Gulf of Mexico and what he said about Greenland, how horrible, how outrageous, etc etc etc. Not a word about covid nor Kennedy. Which is interesting.

Reading a lot of Brownstone essays this week. I just don't know what to make of things at the moment.

Cetiosaurus

[open_space]

I think you mean the Gulf of Cheaper Eggs heh

Good News / Bad News BC Mask Story

[(Anonymous)]

Here’s a little bad news / good news story to lighten the heart.

The bad news is that on January 6, 2025, the BC Ministry of Health announced the return of mandatory medical masks in facilities operated or contracted by provincial health authorities (i.e., hospitals, long-term care and assisted living facilities, outpatient clinics, and ambulatory care settings). Masks are also required in patient care areas, which are any area in a health facility where patients, clients, or residents are actively receiving care. The all-wise Minister of Death (sorry, I mean Health) declared that the mandate is expected to remain until Spring 2025. (disgusting details here: https://www.doctorsofbc.ca/news/mask-mandate-returns-health-authority-operated-facilities)

So, what could possibly be the good news? How about the widespread flagrant disregard of said mandate by medical staff! Independent Canadian journalist Odessa Orlewicz tweeted today the contents of a lightly redacted (to protect privacy) email from a health care worker in British Columbia, dated January 13, that says the following:

“… I thought you might be interested to know 1 in 20 health care workers are wearing masks. Full on mask mandate revolt.

“Almost no one wearing masks in all departments including ER. The mask mandate has been declared one week ago.

“Campbell River Hospital, Comox Valley Hospital, Nanaimo Regional General Hospital, Victoria General, Royal Jubilee Hospital and BC ambulance have completely refused to wear masks.

“I never thought I would see this much solidarity in health care. Feels Great!”

This reminds me of one of the most popular memes that has persisted in Canada since the Great Convoy of 2022, which reads: “And the people said, ‘NO’. The end.”

It’s as if a magic spell has lost its efficacy…

I’m not usually the dancing type – but tonight I’m dancing with joy!

Ron M

Re: Good News / Bad News BC Mask Story

[(Anonymous)]

This does indeed lift my heart! 🙏

[charlieobert]

That is both heartening, and ominous in a canary-in-a-coalmine sort of way.

Why ominous? Part of how governments collapse is by people just refusing to obey them anymore. That probably doesn't happen all at once, but in episodes in specific areas. The effect likely becomes cumulative.

This is just one of many examples of the government's loss of credibility, authority and power - and it's a big one.

Another example could be something like, say, people trashing and looting stores and not being prosecuted.

Time to invest in popcorn futures.

Fibrinaloud Structures Found by Embalmers

[transcriberb]

My List of Transcriptions of censored and shadow-banned video focuses on 202-2023. In the past few days on Transcriber B's Substack https://transcriberb.substack.com/
I've been running a series of transcripts on the white "clots" aka fibrinaloid structures.

My latest transcript, finished just a few moments ago, is of excerpts from Sherry Strong's interview with US embalmer Wallace Hooker in 2022. It's an excellent and very detailed interview. You can read my transcript of selected excerpts here:
https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/195231.html

Source video:
"Wallace Hooker - Embalmer and Funeral Director Speaks Out About the 'Clots' (that aren't clots)"
[Interview by Sherry Strong]
Children's Health Defense Canada September 12, 2022
https://rumble.com/v1juqup-wallace-hooker-embalmer-and-funeral-director-speaks-out-about-the-clots-tha.html

(Why am I transcribing something so important from 2022 in 2025? That's the power of the censorship.)

No caveats about nightmarish pictures-- there aren't any in that Internet interview. The viewer sees only a split screen of Wallace Hooker to the left and Sherry Strong to the right.

If you want to have a look at the nature and variety of the fibrinaloid structures that embalmers in the US, Canada, UK, Ireland and New Zealand, and Germany, have been finding, I would suggest Laura Kasner's blog "Clotastrophe" https://laurakasner.substack.com/

I have 2 more transcripts from 2023 on this subject scheduled to upload next week. And with that, barring any surprise discoveries, I'll be wrapping up the fibrinous "clot" transcripts. It's an evolving story, but I will have done my bit, which again, is a focus on transcribing censored and shadow-banned video from 2021-2023.

You can find my transcripts on this subject to date gathered here:
https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/138644.html

Re: Fibrinaloid Structures aka "Clots" Found by Embalmers

[transcriberb]

Latest news on this dreadful topic is the 3rd annual international clot survey by Tom Haviland and Laura Kasner.
-Results of the survey:
https://laurakasner.substack.com/p/results-of-the-2024-worldwide-embalmer
- Embalmer comments:
https://laurakasner.substack.com/p/embalmers-comments-to-our-2024-survey

Also:
James Roguski has also posted a collection of links:
https://jamesroguski.substack.com/cp/154835708

In the above-mentioned interview of embalmer Wallace Hooker by Sherry Strong, Hooker mentions that embalmers who work for large corporate-owned funeral homes are not free to take photos nor to speak out publically lest they risk losing their jobs. Wallace Hooker owns his own funeral home. Ditto John O'Looney, who has also been speaking out.

A rant

[yarnell_perkins]

I just now started to listen to a music video about The Man Who Killed John Prine. I thought it would be about Fauci. But it's mocking Trump. Bummer even though Trump is a target rich environment when it comes to mockery. But just the title made me realize -- the truth really is Anthony Fauci killed John Prine! And the only reason people think otherwise is because they failed to blow up their TVs.

My husband died in October. Part of his problem was medical care delayed by pandemic era idiocy. The other part of his problem was all his own. So Fauci helped kill my husband.

My neighbor across the road died two years ago of turbo cancer. My boss's landlady's mother died shortly before that of turbo cancer. My favorite waitress at my favorite diner just lost her 17-year-old grandson. His parents were so careless as to leave him home alone working on a term paper and when they returned they found him dead at his computer. He never finished his paper. Kids these days don't only drop dead on the football field. Homework is taking them out as well.

Anthony Fauci helped kill all these people. I have my suspicions as well about my mother's death. She had leukemia of the elderly and it was well under control until she was so careless as to get the vax. But with her, well, she was pushing 90 so there's that.

All this happened in Tennessee. It makes me really feel for people trapped in blue states. It makes me wish I was good at writing country songs. Real country songs. Not that mess coming out of Nashville. Something like what John Prine would've written.

Re: A rant

[drhooves]

I'm doubtful that the majority of citizens will reach critical mass to punish those responsible for the Covid mess. I think a week or two ago there were some posts about forgiveness on the topic in these threads.

Not me. There are plenty of people in the medical field that were duped, but others that knew early on the horrific side effects of the treatments and went public were just a fraction of those who realized "bad medicine" was the root cause of deaths and injuries, and not so much the virus itself.

The latest trend appears to be a planned twist of the facts, elevating processed food and environmental factors like pollution and 5G as the culprits. (Go MAHA!) Yes, they do contribute, but things other than the Jabs are now being used as a smokescreen to allow the guilty to escape.

I hope I'm wrong, but that's how I see the Covid disaster at the moment.

The Rise of Vaccine Distrust - UK Edition

[escorcher]

The Rise of Vaccine Distrust - UK Edition

I know I'm in danger of 'over-posting' but seems it's data week here in the UK and we don't get enough figures to look at to compare with anecdata and intuition etc. here.

The BBC have just published an article on the rise of vaccine distrust. Of course, this is from the expected MSM point of view of 'this is a bad thing' and with little serious mention of the particular issues with the covid jabs. They do, at least, talk about the fact that the covid vixens were originally sold as preventing infection, when they didn't. You can guess all the other talk up to support them of course (prevented serious disease etc.).

Anyway, what is more interesting from the general point of view here is the figures on their main graph giving us an idea of how trust has changed over time from August 2019 and that those distrustful of vaccines has risen to 30% in August 2024 - particularly rising from an initial 'hope bump' in covid vaccines (14% to 30%). The poll was by YouGov and polled 2000 people (with an initial distrust of vaccines of 20% in 2019).

The other 'upsetting' (heartening) statistics from this poll show only 1 in 5 healthcare workers are now 'boosting' with covid jabs and trust in flu vaccine has fallen significantly too. Also younger people are losing trust in them:

"The proportion of 18-24-year-olds, for example, who say that vaccines are safe and effective has fallen to under 60% in 2023 from 80% in 2019."

This really upsets Prof Heidi Larson, the director of the Vaccine Confidence Project at LSHTM, "Vaccine confidence across Europe is now really struggling and we can't just assume it's going to bounce back without a concerted effort."

Full In-depth article here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jgrlxx37do

Re: The Rise of Vaccine Distrust - UK Edition

[athaia]

Ugh, I already dread whatever that "concerted effort" will entail...

At this point nobody should be surprised

[(Anonymous)]

Like in the scales of some great cosmic balance, good news is followed by bad news so often these days. The only saving grace is that at least it isn't 90% bad news (like it was when this forum was first established). Just the same, articles that state: "Millions of Americans may have unknowingly received COVID-19 mRNA vaccines as part of covert hospital programs allegedly designed to secure federal funding, according to U.S. attorneys leading a high-stakes investigation" get me cussin' like Yosemite Sam!

Link to article in question: https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/attorneys-claim-millions-of-americans-were-covertly-vaccinated-by-hospitals-for-financial-bonuses/

I'm pretty sure that there's a construction boom going on these days in Hades in order to accommodate the influx of irredeemably evil, corrupted souls that have participated in this Crime of the Century. May their actions reap their just rewards in this world or the next.

Ron M

Re: At this point nobody should be surprised

[(Anonymous)]

Abridgement of free will is about the worst thing you can do in this realm. Only thing worse would be knowing it's wrong and doing it anyway. And right below that would be knowing it's wrong and enjoying it while you're doing it.

You go down that path, it's a circle. But it'll be a very long way and a very long time before you get back to your initial point where you can choose something else.

Anyways, back to those people who did this - they better hope they don't start to enjoy what they're doing. Because it'll be a long time coming back from what they've done already.

Zero Hedge Covid Narrative Datas Collection

[(Anonymous)]

JMG, if I may share this with you and the commentariat...Announcing a Comprehensive Compendium of Articles on the Covid Vaccines

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-01-15/announcing-comprehensive-compendium-articles-covid-vaccines

by Janet Phelan
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2025 - 13:33

As the WHO attempts to force a world- wide pandemic treaty on all the nations of the world, an effort is afoot to compile all the reputable journal articles challenging the safety and efficacy of the mRNA vaccines. Those who have been attending, with growing concern, to the proliferation of substacks detailing the publication of medical journal articles on studies showing that the vaccines indeed are neither safe nor effective--substacks such as Steve Kirsch’s, Brucha Weisberger’s and a number of MDs-- are aware that the information needs to be presented in a unified and easily accessible format.



James Roguski, whose coverage of the pandemic treaty and the efforts to amend the International Health Regulations has kept us all up to date, on a daily basis, is announcing the launching of a website which will include all the relevant journal articles challenging the official Covid vaccine narrative. You can email him journal articles for inclusion in the new website, notsafeandnoteffective.com, at james.roguski@gmail.com. This is a much needed project coming at a pivotal point in history, as the WHO moves to create a “one world health” system which will potentially rob us of our individual health sovereignty while further enriching the pharmaceutical industry.



Should you have any questions concerning this effort, you may also call James Roguski at 310 619-3055. As the WHO moves to finalize the pandemic treaty in order to present it for a vote in January of 2025, this effort comes at a critical juncture in US and world history. Roguski is to be congratulated for seizing the moment and launching this important project.

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[(Anonymous)]

David Lynch died and for those who wonder, yes he was vaccinated with Phfizer

https://www.reddit.com/r/davidlynch/comments/leqkqu/david_has_been_vaccinated/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tVTjKLN3P4

[(Anonymous)]

Well, he was a heavy smoker and had emphysema.
Not all deaths are caused by the Vax, let's have some perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

I know we've been talking a lot about mRNA vaccine induced cancers here, but I'm inclined to think that is premature.

It usually takes around ten to fifteen years for a cancer to develop from the first signs that can be detected on screenings to the point where symptoms emerge. So, if the experimental mRNA injection is actually behind the massive wave of cancer, then it means that these are either highly unusual cancers, or that we are in for a truly disastrous wave. Another possibility, however, has occurred to me: this wave of cancer might be unrelated.

It seems to me that there is a real chance that the current wave of cancers is actually a result of something else; in which case, things are significantly less dire. It's occurred to me that smartphones might be responsible; the timing fits, and it would not surprise me to learn that constant EMF exposure causes serious health problems...

[escorcher]

erm, turbocancers not something new?

https://www.canceractive.com/article/yale-experts%20see%20rise%20in%20younger%20turbo%20cancer

"
Dr. Harvey Risch first reported in September 2023 that Clinicians at Yale Medical School were seeing some new cancer situations in adults as young as 25, with no family history of developing colorectal cancer, suddenly developing highly aggressive forms of the disease. So aggressive that between diagnosis and first treatment, the cancers have grown dramatically (1). This phenomenon has rapidly accelerated since the Pandemic."