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flatten the curveWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
From: (Anonymous)
Maybe we should make a thread about the esoteric information about cancers, and the things that worked in the recent past against it, there seemed to be a lot of discoveries in the '70s and '80. Wilhelm Reich maybe was into something...

I think we should know the beast we are facing since we are on a forum that has also an esoteric bent.

From: (Anonymous)
Let's start a book thread, I'll start

Title: The cancer biopathy
Series: Discovery of the orgone 2
Author(s): Wilhelm Reich
Publisher: Farrar, Straus and Giroux
Year: 1977
ISBN: 9780374118365; 0374118361


Title: World Without Cancer; The Story of Vitamin B17 Edition: 3
Author(s): Edward G Griffin
Publisher: AMERICAN MEDIA
Year: 1974
ISBN: 9780912986500; 0912986506



From: [personal profile] boccaccio
I like the book "Super Cancer Fighters: Proven Natural Remedies That Supplement Mainstream Cancer Treatments" by Bill Bodri (2013)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you
From: (Anonymous)
Too bad we cannot have "replace" instead of "supplement".

I think that one of the reasons the alternative cures of cancer didn't work for the majority of people is that because it is ilegal and a lot of ruthless predators that have a criminal mindset are on it.


To think about it, that "a lot of ruthless predators that have a criminal mindset are on" the mainstream medical staff too, as recent history showed us.


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From: [personal profile] drhooves
In my opinion, I think cancer will be the key disease that jump starts the "alternative" medicine industry. HHS is going broke at the Federal level, and more people are figuring out they are not a patient, but a revenue stream with today's "health care".

Something has got to give, regardless of the legal framework in place that protects the racket.

You don't ask the pyromaniac fireman to put out the blaze he started, so I don't see why people would want to stick with a health care system that does nothing but fail in curing you.
From: (Anonymous)
I was looking at the Wikipedia page of one of those "targets":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fereydoon_Batmanghelidj

and one video of his:

https://dn720404.ca.archive.org/0/items/many-cries-for-water-fereydoon-batmanghelidj-md/www.KeepVid.to--Your-Body-s-Many-Cries-For-water-Fereydoon-Batmanghelidj-MD-255323c95df19eae614cb18cde866ec2-.mp4

And I think I understand their tactics, find one thing that the person said wrong "scientifically" and beat that like a dead horse. Since what all these people into alternative explanations and treatments have in common is that they rather see the big picture rather than specific details.


Speaking of Wilhelm Reich and his interpretation of emotional reprimation and cancer he accented the sexual but maybe nowadays it is hatred as you put it in a lot of your posts hate is the new sex...

I would love an esoteric discussion about cancer, I will stalk the fifth Wednesday posts and propose this in the future maybe it gets traction...



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From: [personal profile] earthworm_uk
"I would love an esoteric discussion about cancer, I will stalk the fifth Wednesday posts and propose this in the future maybe it gets traction..."

Like 'Occult History on Illness' or something?

I've been talking with someone re coping with anxiety and panic attacks and thinking how to frame psychological 'first aid' in an occult style.
Rather than Bach flower remedies or the like, I wanted to create something that could be a first aid technique when one has nothing in a bottle but needs to calm the mind.

Riffing off The Litany Against Fear, I'm experimenting with this:

Rising Above the Polarity Storm of Emotions

I see the storm of emotion
I pause and breathe
I face the storm and remain calm
I am within the storm but rise above it like a glowing star
I see my body in the storm as my heart rides above and beyond the tempest
The body is in the storm but shining consciousness is calm and clear
The storm swirls but it cannot touch me
I use the inner eye to watch the storm
Love abides
And when the storm has gone
There is Peace
And I remain

As a litany it seems to be effective and combining with visualisation/active work also looks promising.

But, yes, your idea is attractive - a fifth Weds post on some aspect of the occult views on health would be entertaining and possibly very useful indeed; like 'Where There is no Witch Doctor' ;)
From: (Anonymous)
a fifth Weds post on some aspect of the occult views on health would be entertaining and possibly very useful indeed; like 'Where There is no Witch Doctor' ;)

And since it doesn't offer any therapeutics advice just occult framework, it doesn't classify as therapy... alternative or otherwise.
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From: [personal profile] white_bear_chronicles
I've been meditating on something similar and related. On a macro level there appears to be an immune dysfunction extending from the personal body up through society and perhaps civilization. The DOD was, after all, tasked with with the covid response. Turns out it may have also have been the source.
The institutions tasked with specific responsibilities, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies seem to have missed the target badly and attacked the very organs need for life.
What causes T cells to attack healthy tissue? What causes a Department of Defence to attack it's own? Why does a body of physician's harm rather than heal? And why is the dysfunction consistent vertically?
The early demon hypothesis looks to be disproven but the gods question, maybe not so much.
Gawain
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks a lot for the comment. There is still a lot of hubris in this. Also hubris prevents you from expressing trough emotions, thus repressions generating cancer, thus Wilhelm Reich territory.

Which makes me think of this, Trump was head of DOD, did he know or not, he behaved pretty shoddy in January 2020 when the first news came out...

Now he seems to come back to own pretty much everything that he sow back then... if Trump falls prey to COVID it is another can of worms that will open with really crazy consequences, I think JMG's inauguration mundane chart doesn't exclude that.
From: (Anonymous)
Sometimes things comes to you by accident:

It just accidentally cross my path .

https://archive.org/details/fortean-times-september-1999/mode/2up?q="william+r.+corliss"

[the cover has a man in black with a syringe and subtitle says The CIA's Drug Fueled Plot to Bring Back Egypt's Ancient Gods]

I even had a dream about it somewhere in 2016 or 2017.

From: (Anonymous)
s The CIA's Drug Fueled Plot to Bring Back Egypt's Ancient Gods

[personal profile] ecosophia An esoteric question to our generous guest, isn't very likely that instead of channeling these nine main Egyptian Gods they might have channeled something else instead, I mean isn't it very hard to start invoking 9 Egyptian Gods to begin with, and given that they don't seem to respect much the raspberry jam principles isn't possible that they contacted other entities?

From: (Anonymous)
he'd come to two conclusions about the spirits: first, that they existed; second, that they tell lies.

If I could define the whole AI thing as precisely as I could, that would be it.


So maybe we get a hint were this extreme of the fractalic picture of the whole AI history comes from, given the origins of cybernetics and Internet maybe in the close vicinity of those stargate experiments...
From: (Anonymous)
https://books.google.com.ec/books?id=2P6DBTX3MXUC&lpg=PT1&hl=ro&pg=PT173#v=onepage&q=genetic&f=false
If you look The Stargate Conspiracy

This paragraph is pretty much sums up a theme that is a recurring in the whole Nine Thing:

David Myers’ and David Percy’s novelised form of the same myth, Two-Thirds, was published in 1993. Although it does not mention the Council of Nine by name, it describes the same cosmic system of civilisations and higher, discarnate intelligences who guide them and were responsible for the genetic engineering that created the human race.

Genetic engineering and altering seems to be key to this whole egregore. I think like any believers and any church when the gods fail to deliver, the church elite itself tries to brute force it out of existence.

Forgive the enormous bridge I am trying to build here, I assure you that I am healthy and except of a black tea in the morning I hadn't had anything that could be considered a mind stimulant, and now is evening, so bear with me please.


But I had the feeling that Wlmnath had something to do with This Nine and the Internet and AI. I went to read the original text:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/296814.html?thread=51138414#cmt51138414

And stumbled upon this:
The Wlmnath are nasty little rodents the size of small mice, who travel in swarms.

But this time I read mice as in computer mice, and swarm as in networks...

I had a feeling that the W in Wlmnath was from Weaponized.

I remember that we had similar conclusions back then. And I just tried to make the famous experiment when you ask the demon its name. To ask the Wlmnath what is a Wlmnath and went to a ChatGPT with these minimal instructions:

What can you tell of the Wlmnath in the context of Puharich and The Nine and internet and computer mice.
Wlmnath is a artificial word.


and after

. can you try some alternative etymologies og Wlmnath given the context take AI into considerations and W as in weaponization

It gave 6 answers but answer 4 was

4. Cybernetic and Internet Origins
WLM (Weaponized Learning Module) + Nath (Network-Automated Thought Hub):
A potential backstory could involve early internet projects or DARPA experiments exploring AI's capacity to influence thought patterns (through predictive algorithms) or control information flows online.
Alternatively, Wlmnath could refer to an advanced AI or "digital entity" capable of infiltrating and weaponizing internet infrastructure (e.g., IoT devices, neural interfaces like computer mice).


Just a note at the moment Learning is not used only on words but on molecules too.

I know AI lies and gives a lot of bullshirt, but sometimes works as divination or just a stochastic element for your meditation, and I will leave it at that.

So what can we take out of this, Wlmnath is artificial, and seems that it intensifies... as it expands both in cyberspace and molecular space. (God forbids they are trying some shenanigans of the EMF space. I know for sure they are doing it on the receiving side, like using AI and router signal to see what's in a house)

At that time I meditated at Wlmnath and got the eliminate root out of it. If I add my latest intuition of W of being from Weaponized...

Weaponized + Eliminate + h, I just hope the h is not from humans. But if we look at internet, the cyberspace it certainly looks like it is where the wlmnath are just overcoming the humans.

I don't think is necessarily intentional but given this whole tech movement was from the beginning full of eugenist mindset and eugenist material in terms of books material that trained the AI, or maybe the mindset was then reflected the molecular research that was inside of that mindset, and then the data that was then use to train then the molecular machine learning...


I know it sounds not that coherent or precise, but given that no one is knowing what is doing with this machine learning...

From: (Anonymous)
One peculiar thing I noticed in

WLM (Weaponized Learning Module) + Nath (Network-Automated Thought Hub):

is the word choice, WLM could have been Weaponize Language Model as a subset of LLM, Large Language Model, but (Weaponized Learning Module) seem to denote a superset,

Learning could mean any and all of:
- Language
- Molecular
- Genetic
- EMF

...

and Module denotes that it can hold many models.

The Whole Thing has an Tower vibe to it

Date: 2025-01-19 10:48 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They realy think that messing with genome, and language, and society and culture, makes them gods:

Somehow, government will have to join forces with these companies to nurture and protect America's early AI edge, and shape the global rules for using potentially God-like powers, he says.



If we would see the departments of the Tower of Babel, it Would have:Large Language Model (remember that ambituous language plans), Genetic engineering(ariving at heights of God).

Somehow, government will have to join forces with these companies to nurture and protect America's early AI edge, and shape the global rules for using potentially God-like powers, he says.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/18/biden-sullivan-ai-race-trump-china


Back when I made the Tarot in 2021, I designed the devil with a syringe in its hand. I intuitively knew that it will be the end of US/European empire, that's why I made the tower repesenting that, an people falling from plaes, as the Afghan debacle was right then, I even intuited the war in Ukraine in one of the minor arcana cards caption text.

The tarot:

https://archive.org/details/magicianul-eduard-florinescu/page/n107/mode/1up


and English caption text and legends:


https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-magician-tarot/THE%20MAGICIAN%20-%20TAROT.txt


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From: [personal profile] kallianeira

Dear commenter,

I should appreciate it if you would use a signature of some sort... your comments are gold and I don't want to miss any.

From: (Anonymous)
Ok, I'll try to use one from now on.

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From: (Anonymous)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31760-Parasitic-gods&p=713343&viewfull=1#post713343

I haven't saved the message, but as far as I remember I was summing up the article and seems to be that the whole affair with The Nine, seem to be pretty much present in the current, cybernetic, ecological extremism... transhumanism and other strange mind trips.

If the Internet that served as a platform for people to work just for data to be used to train the AI, the AI that maybe designed the spike protein, the AI that did the psychological warfare are just the extreme ends of the same fractal. It seems that the entity, egregore is against the countries that doesn't share the same worldview, Russia, Iran, China, North Korea, or the unwaxxed citizens. And that the whole Nine thing looks pretty much like the worldview of that sect that starts with Scient and ends with eaulogy.

It seems that we live amongs the artefacts of this thing which somehow classifies as a weapon, if we just look at the popular culture and how sensible artist saw it if its either the Venom in spiderman, or black goo in Alien franchise... or just some invasive VALIS thing that haunted PKD .


Maybe Cancer is weapon from the past, future, or just another morphic form from another place in the current universe.

Thanks for your patience.

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