Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 174

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[fredsmith11]

Mercola reported on the recreation of Spanish Flu in Sep 2022.

More interestingly, I recently read an article on X that stated the majority of deaths from Spanish Flu were from bacterial pneumonia caused by mask wearing. I've not had time to go down that rabbit hole.

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

September 08, 2022
Scientists in the U.S. and Canada have resurrected the Spanish u virus through reverse
genetics. Not surprisingly, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Dr. Anthony Fauci’s
National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) are involved

The scientists appear frustrated by the fact that their reverse engineered Spanish u
virus — even at the highest doses tested — was not lethal enough to kill the macaque
species selected for the experiment. They argue we need to make a more dangerous
version of the Spanish u to be able to make better vaccines for it. This despite the fact
that, until they resurrected it, it no longer existed in nature

The argument that we need to create dangerous viruses “just in case” Nature comes up
with something similar, so we can create vaccines for said viruses in advance, simply
doesn’t hold water. This is science gone mad, and it must be stopped

Evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 being the product of gain-of-function research, and a
number of U.S. institutions need to come clean about their work, including the EcoHealth
Alliance (EHA), the University of North Carolina (UNC), the University of California at
Davis (UCD), the NIH and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID)

1918 flu mortality

[(Anonymous)]

There is also a hypothesis that the 1918 flu was more deadly than a typical flu pandemic because of the over-use of aspirin. The reports of victims coughing or vomiting blood are consistent with aspirin overdose induced gastric bleeding. Aspirin was a relatively new invention, and the risks were not well understood. It may have been prescribed for the fever and aches, and turned out to be more dangerous than the virus itself.

"Aspirin Misuse May Have Made 1918 Flu Pandemic Worse
Date: October 3, 2009
Source: Infectious Diseases Society of America
Summary: The devastation of the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic is well known, but a new article suggests a surprising factor in the high death toll: the misuse of aspirin. The article sounds a cautionary note as present day concerns about the novel H1N1 virus run high."

The more things change...

Lathechuck

Re: 1918 flu mortality

[(Anonymous)]

Also liver toxicity and dangerous fluid build up in the lungs are common for lighter weight people/women at the doses sometimes recommended back then (it was a new drug so the pharma companies were eager to shovel it into people and all the young cool cats wanted to take it).

[(Anonymous)]

More interestingly, I recently read an article on X that stated the majority of deaths from Spanish Flu were from bacterial pneumonia caused by mask wearing.

and a subset of deaths were caused by mask-wearing pissed off citizens shooting insurances executives :)