Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 174

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Letting go, moving on

[open_space]

Hello Dylan,

The feel-and-let-it-pass approach doesn’t work for me much, because emotion is the juicy part of thought and for me to let go of the emotion, would also imply letting go of the structures that give it place. I take a lot of care in how I connect my mental structures and models, so doing that was a little bit like asking me to let go of the house I built because it happens to have a leak. Sure, if there is no house, there is no leak, but I need the house, which is why I built it. Let me give an intentionally silly example. If I am constantly feeling afraid and anxious because many of the things I value are disappearing for crappy stuff, it might work to just relax and let go, but that mental structure will have it keep coming back. If I reframe things however, and come to understanding and replacing the old idea as well as doing something about the things I care, that feeling will not come again. If a different one comes, then I can do a similar thing.

I need understanding to let go of things, to me that is the equivalent of going to the house, finding the leak and patching it. Otherwise, if another thing happens in the metaphorical house, will I just hope and pray for the best or do I know how to fix it? This approach needs to keep in mind the blind spot of protecting structures that would serve best gone, just as the other might fall into letting go of important things. I can see both methods working for different situations, but I am not the type of person that likes to outsource so I prefer the analytical approach. It seems to me the feel-and-let-go method would work for people that have been taught to suppress the emotions; but I am from a different generation with the opposite problem, and on top of that very sensitive. I don't need to learn how to feel. I need to learn how to saddle the emotional horse and ride it away, instead of it throwing me off to the ground and running away without me, so to speak.

I don’t remember who it was but he said that every emotional crisis requires a spiritual revolution. I think what he meant was that when the emotions become too wild it means the mental model of ourselves and our world not longer fits and it's creating friction. Its our beliefs, traumas, passions, fears, hopes and dreams that make such structure in the form of memories, habits, tastes, goals, outlook, etc.ñ. With the methods of the OSA my ability to adapt to situations, and also to reframe my mind when it comes to emotions and relating to others, is very, very much improving.

Re: Letting go, moving on

[(Anonymous)]

I really like your description of this! I am aware of what you described, but the way you've presented it was so succinct, that it helped sharpen my own understanding of the relationship between core beliefs and emotions.

Rather than the feel-and-let-it-pass approach, it seems effective to do the feel-and-find-the-source approach; which requires fully feeling an emotion in order to assess where it comes from. To use your metaphor, it's almost like you can't find the source of the leak in your basement until it's flooded, or even that you can't find it unless it has flooded.

Re: Letting go, moving on

[open_space]

Thank you! I appreciate the word succinct you used, because I tend to drive myself of the rails and leave the point buried somewhere in the middle.

I like the notion of letting yourself feel, as well as tracing the emotion back. You can untangle so many things that way, not only emotional, because the connections are being made underneath the threshold of awareness all the time. Refine your concentration and you can slip in between two moments of regular awareness and fish it out. Do the same thing with your body and you learn its rhythms and patterns.

Following the metaphor: and once you know what a leak looks like, you can put humidity detectors so that you don't need to get flooded into crisis mode to listen to yourself! Which is after all, what is telling us something is wrong.