Magic Monday
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The image? I field a lot of questions about my books these days, so I've decided to do little capsule summaries of them here, one per week. The book above on the left was my twenty-fifth published book. During my time as head of the Ancient Order of Druids in America, it became clear that we needed a few books for members with rituals and the like. This was the first of them, a guide to the ritual work of a grove (that's what you call a group of Druids) in AODA. It was a pleasant, simple, straightforward job, and I didn't (and don't) make a cent from it -- all proceeds go to AODA. It seemed to me that this was appropriate for what was, after all, a labor of love.
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Multiple Timelines
Date: 2024-05-06 04:06 am (UTC)What are your thoughts on alternate/multiple timelines? Do they exist and if so how do they interact with our pirmary/conscious timeline? How as students of esoterica should we incorporate them into our morality and our metaphysics? Or are they just a wish projection and another convenient way for adherents to bypass the tragedies and vicissitudes of our conscious lived reality?
Thank you!
Anthony from Pittsburgh PA
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Date: 2024-05-06 04:22 am (UTC)Up until May 3rd there was a large, beautiful, healthy Aspen in front of my house (it was 60-80 feet tall). On May 2nd my landlord informed me he was going to cut it down because he thought "it might damage the house". The following morning two men with a chainsaw arrived.
I had called my lawyer on the night of the second to see if I could stop this but it turned out that my landlord was legally within his right to kill this perfectly healthy tree that wasn't hurting anyone (and posed no imminent threat to the house). I could have gotten my lawyer to send a volly of nasty letters but that could have easily cost me thousands of dollars and it was likely that my landlord would prevail in the end.
I went out and talked to the tree the night before it was killed and explained that it was absolutely not my idea to kill it but that there wasn't much I could do. I apologized to the tree and told it that if it wanted to seek retribution to please direct that at my landlord and not my family.
I'm looking for a new place to live because I really don't want to have any more dealings with my tree-killing landlord.
My question is: Should I do anything else for the spirit of the tree or is the talk I had with it the night before it was killed sufficient?
Thanks,
FSH
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Date: 2024-05-06 04:22 am (UTC)It has been nice to get back into the physical swing of things and to have a zest for what presents itself in front of me for the day again. I am bringing all of this up to ask if there is any magical detriment to having stopped my morning SOP, 15 minutes of meditation, and daily divination for a few days? Or if anyone has noticed a difference?
I have noticed making this a daily ritual has allowed me to see my thoughts and patterned behavior from a larger perspective so it is less of a struggle against a poor habit and more of a shedding of. I've also noticed the ability to mentally visualize has much increased and the ability to hold a fully formed thought to its completion is much easier. Some of my realizations seem too slippery and vast to put into words...but it is more of an internalized understanding than an intellectual.
I have found that these past three days not practicing my thoughts are a lot more automated. Has anyone found this to be true for them? Have I had a set back?
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:16 pm (UTC)Review of the Rebirth and MOE Elemental Associations vs DMH/DA
Date: 2024-05-06 04:35 am (UTC)For anyone affected by the recent storm systems in the US, I hope they've passed you by without too much trouble.
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To Ask: The Modern Order of Essenes material includes what look to be some fairly idiosyncratic takes on the five elements and their correspondences/symbolic associations, without departing too far from the traditional western esoteric associations. For a student of the DMH and the DA also pursuing MOE, are there any particular warnings or guardrails you'd recommend in considering the different symbolic systems, or is it all just good themes for meditation?
As always, thanks very much to JMG and everyone else here for all that you do.
My blessings to all who welcome them,
Jeff
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:17 pm (UTC)Extremes of Magic
Date: 2024-05-06 04:36 am (UTC)I am aware that you are careful not to categorize magic into so-called White and Black Magic; or to judge any magician as to their “morality”.
But I have a question which includes goetia or magic work with demons. All though this may not necessarily apply, specifically I am wondering about A. Crowley and Thelema. My feeling is that the average Thelema follower considers him/herself a practioner of High Magic; i.e. magic with the goal of self-transformation.
Although I realize not all magicians presume to be on the path of High Magic.
How do such magicians who may dabble in the relative negative “morality”, alongside their High Magic, reconcile that negativity with their self-transformation?
Please, magicians, feel free to respond, too.
Thanks
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:29 pm (UTC)After his death, his legacy was picked up by several more competent mages, Grady McMurtry arguably first among them, who turned the steaming mess into a viable system of initiation and succeeded in marketing it. I know some first-class mages who are Thelemites; I have no idea why they chose that particular path, but hey, do what keepeth thou from wilting shall be the loophole in the law, and all that.
As for goetia, it's best strictly avoided. It's like going in search of your local gang members because you think you can get them to do you favors -- they might grin and comply for the time being, but sooner or later they're going to beat the crap out of you and rob you blind, because that's what gangsters do to the clueless and arrogant. Demons are the same way. Turning to spirits of any kind to get favors is the classic mistake of the failed mage -- everything you can get from them, you can accomplish all by yourself, if you're willing to put in the work and accept the changes that follow. That's the problem, of course, and people have been falling for that trap -- "bow to me and I shall serve thee" -- since ancient times.
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Date: 2024-05-06 05:51 am (UTC)A few days ago when I went to pay the rent she told me she had just had the worst three weeks of her life. She had suffered from a respiratory affliction, her sister unexpectedly died and she had a nasty fall that bruised her face and left her with a concussion.
The timing seems suggestive. Could this be a case of a person with a history of being too aggressive, something of a bully, and when someone does a bit of magical self-protection it produces for the first party an unexpected karmic wallop? Or is something else going on?
I don’t want to give people concussions, and she’s not altogether a bad sort; but I can’t deny I’ve enjoyed the relative peace.
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:32 pm (UTC)Failure of LHC
Date: 2024-05-06 07:21 am (UTC)It's interesting as it means that it may be the limit for high energy particle physics, and especially interesting given that Pluto is fading out. High energy particle physics, the idea that we make nature behave in a large atom smasher seems to me to be the epitome of pluton.
So where does it leave physics? I suspect physics might have to focus again on the big, rather than the small, and that quantum physics, may be seen in times to come as a statistical exercise.
Thoughts would be appreciated.
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Date: 2024-05-06 07:32 am (UTC)Are you aware of any writing or research on the connection between magical energy or kundalini energy and how it relates to human biology?
I ask because I have recently started to take a nootropic supplement that has an impact on dopamine and I am experiencing surges of energy in the heart chakra and head that I have only previously felt when engaged in kriya yoga and magical ritual.
Thanks,
P
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:43 pm (UTC)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9282169/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5433116/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5540331/
You might also look up the work of Hiroshi Motoyama, a Japanese scientist who spent much of his career researching kundalini; some of his books are available in English translation.
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Date: 2024-05-06 07:50 am (UTC)Thank you very much for this space and have a good week!
I, like almost all normal people, have good dreams and nightmares. Nightmares usually come when I'm too covered or feeling hot. And these have a villain: a vampire. He appeared about two years ago. Count Dracula, or any other vampire, was my biggest fear as a child. I don't have lucid dreams to be able to face him and I'm always at a disadvantage. What can I do to scare away this figure of my dreams?
tks in advance!
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Date: 2024-05-06 08:06 am (UTC)I was thinking about the part in the Book of Haatan where Dr Moravec tells Ariel that she should imagine herself as a mage to help her begin the journey to becoming one.
I can see how this kind of exercise could be useful for many things in life, but it seems like it could also risk becoming and ego trap because of how easy it is to fall into contemplating how others would perceive you if you became whatever it is you’re visualizing (such as business success or being a capable artist or the like.) I also worry about how to balance fantasizing about what one would like to be with maintaining sincere self awareness.
Is there a good way to approach these kinds of visualizing exercises that is meant to avoid these pitfalls?
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:53 pm (UTC)On amulet being overwhelmed
Date: 2024-05-06 08:22 am (UTC)I've been having lots of depressive thoughts recently, and I wondered if they are the cause for this overwhelming the amulet, or if they're a symptom of whatever may have also caused the amulet to go bad. Any thoughts?
Also, have you any further suggestions? I've been doing the daily SoP (finally completed it), and it feels pretty powerful, as well as having made another amulet. I don't really have any requisite magic skills, but I do have a copy of Natural Magic, so that might be more accessible? Any help is welcome. Thanks.
- furnax
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Date: 2024-05-06 02:01 pm (UTC)A daily protective ritual such as the SoP will do you a lot of good. If the noxious energy focuses on a place you can do this, you can also crank up the amulet effect by getting a bowl or jar (leave the lid off), fill it most of the way with salt, and put several bent nails into it. Leave that in a place where people won't see it -- that'll discharge a great deal more of the nasty energy before it runs down. (It can also be recharged promptly -- just add more salt and more bent nails.)
If you have access to a store where you can get herbs, an amulet containing frankincense resin, angelica root, and St. John's wort would also help.
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Date: 2024-05-06 09:10 am (UTC)I recently read one of Rudolf Steiner's lectures where he referred to the etheric body as having organs. It struck me as odd. The etheric body always seemed more like a uniform and amorphous aura, without that kind of differentiation.
Are there etheric equivalents of a brain, heart, lungs, skin, etc.?
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Date: 2024-05-06 02:14 pm (UTC)"For still she thought that 'Religion' was a kind of exhalation or a cloud of incense, something steaming up from specially gifted souls towards a receptive Heaven. Then, quite sharply, it occurred to her that the Director never talked about Religion: nor did the Dimbles nor Camilla. They talked about God. They had no picture in their minds of some mist steaming upward, rather of strong, skilful hands thrust down to make, and mend, perhaps even to destroy."
The higher planes are more complex, more intricate, more structured, and vastly more powerful than the plane of matter. It's the material plane that's vague, formless, indefinite and muddled by contrast. The etheric body does in fact have organs, intricately patterned and active organs, which are sometimes called chakras or energy centers; it also has channels of circulation like the bloodstream, which are sometimes called nadis or meridians. The astral body also has organs, though they're difficult for us to understand because astral substance is in such constant motion; and the mental sheath, the highest of our embodiments so far, is evolving organs.
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Date: 2024-05-06 09:15 am (UTC)In the past you have written something like “learn a system of magic, it doesn't really matter which one” which got me wondering what the common elements behind these systems are. What are the common denominators? Aside from intention, I see mantras/vibrating sounds, gestures, visualization/imagination, and spoken words as the basis of what one is actually doing aside from meditation and divination. Are there certain systems that will allow someone to develop “paranormal” abilities more than others? You have often written that there are many different systems of magic, but the only ones I ever see getting consistently mentioned are Golden Dawn, Franz Bardon’s system and Agrippa to a lesser extent. How does someone know they are making progress in a given system? I know this is a bunch of small questions...
2) You mentioned you know some serious practitioners of Bardon’s system. What makes somebody a serious practitioner and how does the experience of life differ for someone who spends a lot of time doing these types of practices (magic)?
Thank you for doing Magic Mondays JMG
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Date: 2024-05-06 02:55 pm (UTC)2) A serious practitioner is one who puts in practice time every day. It's the same rule you use to call someone a serious musician: how often do they practice? As for the differences in the experience of life, that would practically take a book to explain. Imagine for a moment that what you think of as "paranormal" abilities were actually normal, things that everyone has though most people don't notice or use. Imagine that what you think of as "supernatural" was all perfectly natural, and you experienced those things all the time. Imagine that you stopped experiencing yourself as a helpless victim of circumstances beyond your control, realized that your will and imagination were shaping your life constantly in ways that you weren't conscious off, and that you started taking conscious control of the process and making your life what you want it to be. Imagine all of that together; that's a start.
Lunar Standstill
Date: 2024-05-06 09:52 am (UTC)https://news.artnet.com/art-world/stonehenge-moon-2474008
reports an effort underway at Stonehenge to determine whether the site was aligned not only toward directions with solar significance but also toward the points of the "lunar standstill," which occurs every 18.6 years and is beginning about now. This was all news to me, and I don't understand the nature of the investigation, but I mention it as possibly of interest.
Gray Hat
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Date: 2024-05-06 09:58 am (UTC)Certainly it seems that the CosDoc is much, much denser than the Kybalion. While with the CosDoc I couldn't read a sentence without thinking about it for some time, I wade through several paragraphs of the Kybalion thinking "you are using so many words...". On the other hand, I noticed that at intervals of several days of daily meditation on the Kybalion, I experience something I could best describe as "emotional insight" in the matters presented - which is rather different from the insights gained by studying the CosDoc, which produced somewhat more "intellectual" revelations with the emotional aspect being largely a reaction to these.
Would it be fair to say that while the CosDoc was written to train the mind this training has it's emphasis on the mental plane, the Kybalion does the same with an emphasis on the astral?
Thank you, as always!
Cheers,
Nachtgurke
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Date: 2024-05-06 10:05 am (UTC)Have you ever had the chance to use "Qirra" dice for geomancy? And if so what are your thoughts? I ask simply since I am planning to make some wooden Qirra as a project.
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Date: 2024-05-06 02:59 pm (UTC)Developing Clairvoyance and reincarnation
Date: 2024-05-06 10:10 am (UTC)For someone who found ceremonial magic wasn't for them and instead made the practices taught in W. E. Butler's 'How to Read the Aura and Practice Psychometry, Telepathy, and Clairvoyance' the core of their spiritual training(along with meditation, divination, prayer, etc.), how would that effect their development in future lives?
Is there believed to be a similar number of incarnations of training and then it's off to the next stage, or are these two paths very different in that regard?
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:00 pm (UTC)Ovate grade spagyrics
Date: 2024-05-06 10:24 am (UTC)I'll admit I've considered stopping short of the initiation, deciding this isn't for me and maybe moving on to the DMH system, which also has a lot of elements I like. On reflection, though, there's something about the CGD system and GD-style magic that speaks to me in a different way. I also tend to have issues with committing to things, and I feel it's important for me to see this commitment through to the end and proceed with the initiation. Is what I'm experiencing here "the Watcher" you've been talking about before in action, maybe?
Getting past the emotional hang-ups is of course on me. In terms of the practical side, I'd appreciate a few pointers. Thanks to the previous owner of my house I actually have a suitable grill, but I'm more unsure about the vessel for calcination.
1) The CGD book calls for an "iron pan", which I took to mean cast iron. After looking through earlier comment threads here and elsewhere, though, I see that you don't consider this a great option, and recommend a porcelain crucible instead. I'm not American, so maybe I misunderstood and you were thinking of some other kind of iron pan in the book?
2) How and where would I get hold of one of these crucibles? Did you buy yours in a store, or online? I'm not even sure what the correct term for these would be in my language, and I haven't been able to find anything local online. I know various Chinese sellers on eBay and Amazon have them, but I'd rather not patronize those if I can help it, on top of the long shipping times and import fees.
3) If I can't find one, are there any other kinds of kitchenware (ie. oven dishes etc) I could use as substitute? Seems like most dishes for sale here can't handle the necessary temperatures.
4) Alcohol is very expensive and heavily regulated/taxed here. I understand it's essential for the tincture itself, but would it be possible to do the initial blackening stage without dousing the herb in alcohol, to save on that expense? Say, by heating the herb material directly on the grill?
Your assistance is very much appreciated.
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:03 pm (UTC)1) For the very simple spagyric work of the CGD, a plain cast iron pan is entirely suitable. Porcelain is better suited for more complicated alchemical work.
2) See above.
3) See above.
4) Yes, you can roast it that way. Just put it straight into the iron pan and put it on the grill, and let it blacken and burn.
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Date: 2024-05-06 11:29 am (UTC)I hope your day and week are off to a wonderful start!
I was wondering if the symbol for the Byw/spirit within symbol has its origin in the old universalist “off center cross” logo? It may be over reading, but both visually, and symbolically it would make sense. (It’s visually similar to both the off center cross and Gnostic cross that was just coming to use at the time in the direct sense, and symbolically instead of the cross, it brings to center the direct center of the cross-maybe indicating the emphasis on the direct experiential gnosis the founding UGC ministers hoped to emphasize while maintaining the universalist ethos.)
May fully be overstretching, but I’m curious if there’s any definite origin of the symbol you’ve been thought or discovered?
Thank you once again for the time and effort in hosting Magic Monday!
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:06 pm (UTC)The other two symbols of spirit have the same cross either above or below the circle. How you interpret it in meditation, of course, is quite another matter...
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:07 pm (UTC)Of Harry Smith, Moses Asch, Matmos and Magic Chains
Date: 2024-05-06 11:52 am (UTC)Enter a Library of Babel from the masters of the electronic concept album, as they plunder the plethora of “sound” albums released by the maverick founder of Folkways, Moses Asch:
https://igloomag.com/features/matmos-return-to-archive-smithsonian-folkways-recordings
Justin Patrick Moore
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:07 pm (UTC)Witches
Date: 2024-05-06 12:13 pm (UTC)I’m asking because I found myself puzzled (and forgive me if I’m insulting anyone ) that it has now become common for women to call themselves witches. And to market themselves as such.
I saw a book that included Yoga and Witch in the title, and like Drunk Yoga ( yes, there is such a marketed thing), seemed to me rather contradictory?
(Ok - maybe I’m being overly sensitive or exhibiting shadow ? as some might object to MY “Yoga and the Tarot name too!)
Thank you JMG always.
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:29 pm (UTC)Thus it doesn't matter at all how I define the word "witch." There are people who use the word to mean "follower of a neopagan religion," and people who use the word to mean "devil worshipper," and people who use the word to mean "useful piece of construction equipment."
Take your pick.
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Date: 2024-05-06 12:14 pm (UTC)1. Just a comment: watching current events unfold in USA after reading through your recent mundane astrology work is downright spooky.
2. Any advice (suggested practices, intentions to work with, etc) for someone who feels completely unsure of what desires are their own, vs what has been sold to them?
I have a working grasp of the SOP, a small-scale planetary practice, and basic natural magic. Figuring out what to do with it is the hard part.
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:31 pm (UTC)2) This is where meditation shines -- not instantly, and not directly, but ten minutes a day of discursive meditation gradually dissolves the learned ignorance that keeps you from noticing the difference between what you want and what you've been told you ought to want. It has other effects, too, but that's an important one.
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Date: 2024-05-06 12:19 pm (UTC)So I tried doing some reading and meditated on what I found, and based on this it seems an "element" is a symbol, meant to train the mind and not inform it. I read that in a Kabbalistic context it refers to a part of the self, analogous to the chemical elements that compose the material body, but not exactly. But the elements make up most other things as well, so my first question, is which object's "elements" am I calling? The "Air" within my own body? within the volume of the sphere of protection? or is this the idea (in the platonist sense) of air, I am talking to the air of everything in existence?
My second question is about the word "invoke". My native language is Hebrew and I know you have a working knowledge of the language. I could not find a suitable translation, but if I had it, it would prove helpful for me so I can meditate on this word. So far it seems it's like calling someone and inviting him in, much like what happens during prayer. If so, and if the "elements" are just symbols, than who am I calling when invoking each element?
I'd like to end by thanking you for teaching this, although so far I have only been doing the opening and closing, it proved a rewarding experience.
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Date: 2024-05-06 03:41 pm (UTC)2) I'm sorry to say you've got an exaggerated sense of my knowledge of Hebrew; I can read the alphabet (or, rather, the aleph-beth) but I have only a very limited vocabulary. To invoke is to call toward you, just as to banish is to send away from you; the Latin prefix in- is more general than the English preposition. As for who you're calling, here again, that depends on you; if you want to call upon the six permutations of YHV from the Sepher Yetzirah, for example, as some Jews I know do when they practice this ritual, why, I don't think there's any question who you're calling!
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Date: 2024-05-06 01:35 pm (UTC)Following up on DA grade 4. How often should I do the grand psychic breath? Is this daily to start or like the seven nwyfre exercises should I start with weekly and build up to daily?
Thank you!
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