Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 110
Sep. 12th, 2023 12:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2023-09-12 05:11 pm (UTC)What will happen with thia marginal people...
Also makes me wonder what kind of power this demon has, could it be a satan, not The Satan, but it office role for this times.
Ahem
Date: 2023-09-12 11:18 pm (UTC)If you see a simile in the Jonestown affair, the kool-aid may have put an end to their misery, but what poisoned them were Jim Jones' words.
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Date: 2023-09-12 05:53 pm (UTC)People getting sick, in warm weather
Date: 2023-09-12 05:43 pm (UTC)I don't remember a time in my life where people were missing work so much before the weather has even turned cool. There is a part of me that wonders how much of this could be psychosomatic – one sees the people around them getting ill and then they get ill. If it's actually "real" illness at this time of year, I am worried about what the winter is going to look like just from the standpoint of friends, coworkers, and loved ones becoming sick, vaxxed or unvaxxed.
Wishing strength and good health to all.
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Date: 2023-09-12 06:12 pm (UTC)Re: Parts per Million
Date: 2023-09-13 04:40 am (UTC)When masking first started, I remember thinking, people this thing is 300 PPM, seriously, a mask is just about useless against anything that small. Never said it out loud but think I should now, if I can confirm my math. Not that science or logic will change anyone's mind. My only real trump card is cigarette smoke. In the few times I had a mask outdoors and walked past a smoker, tasting their brand as I passed, I knew we were fools to fall for this. That was March 2020.
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Date: 2023-09-12 06:26 pm (UTC)I'm just not completely dismissive of masks.
I have worn a fitted one for short periods of time in our house communal areas for the last few days out of courtesy to my housemates as I currently am setting lfts bright red. I'm also opening windows and washing my hands on occasion.
I absolutely agree longer-term en-masse masking doesn't work but selectively and with the right product I think they can be useful in reducing likelihood of infection over short periods of time. They are especially useful if the wearer is the one with an infection and is trying to avoid passing it on. I do get that more than short term use is probably not healthy for the wearer, hence why I will limit my time where I feel I need one.
I also get why someone with a big bushy beard might not bother!
Of course I would probably care quite a lot less in all this if my partner did not have a chronic health condition but there you go.
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Date: 2023-09-12 09:03 pm (UTC)I say that as someone who decided I wouldn't wear one myself, but more out of desire to protest ALL the B.S. and group think we'd been subject to.
That's my 0.02 eurocents anyway.
JH
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Date: 2023-09-12 09:23 pm (UTC)2021-08-02 ::: Open Letter to the Unvaccinated
Angela Durante, Denis Rancourt, Claus Rinner, Laurent Leduc, Donald Welsh, John Zwaagstra, Jan Vrbik, Valentina Capurri
You are not alone! As of 28 July 2021, 29% of Canadians have not received a COVID-19 vaccine, and an additional 14% have received one shot. In the US and in the European Union, less than half the population is fully vaccinated, and even in Israel, the “world’s lab” according to Pfizer, one third of people remain completely unvaccinated. Politicians and the media have taken a uniform view, scapegoating the unvaccinated for the troubles that have ensued after eighteen months of fearmongering and lockdowns. It’s time to set the record straight. [...]
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Date: 2023-09-13 02:00 am (UTC)In Australia, the claim is that 95% of the adult population received a vaccine. I think the government is lying about this. Given all the vile actions the various governments in Australia carried out during covid, I'd say that fabricating the vaccination rate isn't beyond them.
I saw a couple of signs that the vaccination rate might be lower than claimed.
There was a press conference earlier this year with the premier of Victoria, Dan Andrews, where he was really angry about the people who didn't take the vaccine. If you believe the official figures, there are only a couple of percent of the adult population in Vic who didn't take the vaccines, meaning that the government won an overwhelming victory. DA should be gloating over this, but instead he's angry. This indicates to me that DA knows the real numbers of unvaccinated are much higher than claimed.
About a year ago now, one of the major news sites ran a survey asking how many people took the vaccines and whether they regretted their decision. I realise the sample was probably biased, and the survey was heavily brigaded after a few hours. But in the first couple of hours the results were: 20% unvaccinated, 30% vaccinated but regretted it, 50% vaccinated with no regrets.
I find it interesting that this news site should even be asking these questions. Don't they believe the government figures? Do they know something they aren't telling us?
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Date: 2023-09-12 09:41 pm (UTC)The latest move is that the U.S. EPA has now declared that Berkey water purifiers are a pesticide (seriously…), and therefore under their regulatory authority. Berkey is currently under a government order to cease production. As a result, we (and all distributors) are unable to order any more stainless systems, and our remaining stocks are very low."
I was curious as to how this all unfolded, so I watched a video interview with the owner on X(ugh) at https://twitter.com/absolutewithe/status/1699923966582821135?s=46&t=YOYLTb1OndfnTUo90FwYGg&_kx=UH2FPTupPcHsgw_EKmdnN0WHck_C_VggXbMYZLXnTZg%3D.Yj5Ze
and around 4 min the owner states that the EPA said "because of the threat of covid 19 being in the water, they want to make water filters that remove virus unavailable to the American people."
Okay, that's weird. Not sure what to think of this, but it feels like the whole ivermecton control issue in a new direction.
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Date: 2023-09-12 10:25 pm (UTC)I got what I believe to be COVID a few weeks ago, and was down for three days, exhausted for maybe three more. A week and a half after I got over it, I had rebound symptoms that resolved within 24 hours, although now a couple of days out I am still feel off. My wife has been left with a cough that won't go away. We can control it with quercetin and bromelain and omega 3, but once the supplements wear off it is still there somewhat. I'll probably have to take her in for some prednisone and/or a steroidal inhaler soon. As with the first round of COVID two years ago, my kids barely got it, one day or less of feeling bad and they bounced back.
I say all this to say that the current variant is rotten. Especially if you are older.
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Date: 2023-09-13 06:41 pm (UTC)You can get the non-apple-flavored without a prescription in New Hampshire and also in Vermont, I believe. Maybe Tennesseee, not sure.
Mocha Amphibious Earthwormosaurus
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2023-09-16 08:11 pm (UTC) - ExpandBenadryl & Sudafed canceled
Date: 2023-09-12 11:36 pm (UTC)Whaaaat???! Probably every medicine cabinet in America has one of these!
Here’s one article with details:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/fda-panel-rules-that-popular-decongestant-found-cold/
I don’t know what to make of this. Talk about a shrinking trust horizon! How can anyone trust any pharmacy or doctor anymore!
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Date: 2023-09-13 06:43 am (UTC)Been reading up this year on the amazing cleaning and healing properties of:
baking soda
hydrogen peroxide
Borax
vinegar
lemons
Wish I'd known about those many decades ago. I keep small jars of Borax and baking soda, and a bottle of hydrogen peroxide in my medicine cabinet, bigger containers in my laundry area.
Decades ago when I first noticed an overuse of hand sanitizers and soaps by some hypochondriacs, I decided that use could cause, as comedian George Carlin joked, a lack of needed exercise for our immune systems. We humans didn't evolve to live in sterile labs all the time. We're supposed to have a massive microbial biome inside and around us.
Once as a small kid I broke out in very bad hives. My Mom stuck me in a bathtub to soak in baking soda. It cleared up the hives. Another time the hives would not go away so my Dad went to a pharmacy where a pharmacist advised drink Benadryl cough syrup because it has the highest OTC antihistamine content. That got rid of hives for me but it has never worked to suppress any coughs for me. Hot water, honey and lemons does that well.
Bizarre, exactly twice as a very small kid I got massive hive attacks. Both times in the evening.
Possible alternatives for Benadryl to deaden bug bite itches: mint, pineapples, Vitamin C, and lemons seem promising. Other suggestions?
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Date: 2023-09-13 01:19 am (UTC)"The emergence of BA.2.86 underscores the need for flexibility in current vaccine strategies to ensure continued effectiveness against these new variants. The newly FDA-approved fall 2023 COVID-19 booster shots are formulated to target XBB.1.5, which was dominant in early 2023 when public health officials made the reformulation decisions. The 2022 booster shot was designed to target both the original strain of SARS-CoV-2 as well as the BA.4 and BA.5 omicron lineages."
So, the new shots just approved do not work on the variant currently circulating. They do work (supposedly) against the version from six months ago.
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Date: 2023-09-13 02:20 pm (UTC)Take the arstechnica as a counter example
"FDA approves and authorizes updated COVID boosters for everyone 6 months and up
The fall boosters target XBB.1.5 and have shown effectiveness against current variants."
They have shown effectiveness.
Followed up by today's article
"Everyone should get a COVID booster this fall, CDC says
Not everyone is at the same risk, but advisers called for simplicity and equity."
Simplicity and equity as the guiding principles in your health decisions.
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Date: 2023-09-13 01:30 am (UTC)Well, I just came home from that talk, and long story short... I shook hands with the enemy.
The panelists were three professors who lead the newly formed Trust in Research Undertaken in Science and Technology (TRuST) scholarly network, moderated by the host of our local CBC radio morning hour. (CBC is the government-funded national news network that went hook, line and sinker for the covid narrative).
My impression is that the profs are genuine people who genuinely believe in the merits (and flaws) of scientific enterprise, and who genuinely don't understand why people have lost trust in that enterprise.
I was wrong in my initial understanding, based on the event flyer, that there wouldn't be audience participation. There was, indeed, quite lively and well-moderated live audience participation. I got to speak into the microphone and address my concerns about how these kinds of (very important!) discussions frequently fail when one side gets referred to right off the bat as 'those people' or victims of 'misinformation'. That comment was well received.
I went up after the event to speak with the member of the panel who seemed to me the most reasonable, and shook her hand. (This was the dean of engineering, who was ready to admit bluntly, when questioned about covid science policy failures, that isolating kids at home during lockdown was a bad idea). I told her that I know they're hoping to hear from people on the other side of the fence, and that I'd be happy to talk further.
Whew!
So we'll see where that goes. Folks, the way I see it we are in a war, a war that may be in a state of truce at the moment, but which is far from over, and which must eventually end the way all wars do: with diplomacy and negotiation. I'm not ready to trust the people who started this war, or to cease my preparations for the next round, but if I can be part of the backroom conversations that lay the foundations for some kind of eventual regeneration of public trust (including but not limited to trust in science) then I'd like to give it a try.
Dylan
Original thread about the Trust Science event here:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/245054.html?thread=42807614#cmt42807614
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Date: 2023-09-13 04:12 am (UTC)Long (long!) ago my then (leftist radical) friends attended the U. of W. and I lived in K-W for a few years. I can picture the drive up University Avenue. :-)
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Date: 2023-09-13 03:03 am (UTC)Day 3 (Sept 7): The prosecution shared numerous TikTok videos produced by Chris Barber during the protest in which he continuously called the movement to be peaceful, referred to Mahatma Gandhi and stressed that the protest is not ‘anti-vax’. Now, he also repeatedly used the term "tyranny" to describe violations of constitutional rights imposed by all levels of government – but is that ‘mischief’?
(video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/tamara_lich_and_chris_barber_freedom_convoy_organizers_day_3_trial_recap)
Day 4 (Sept 8): The judge stated on multiple occasions that she was ‘very unhappy’ with the prosecution’s attempt to use chat logs from Chris and Tamara’s phones as evidence, as it violates disclosure policies and makes it very difficult for the defence to respond (as this was not submitted by the August 1 deadline). Evidence presented by the prosecution continues to include many videos by Chris hammering home the message that the protest must be peaceful – which seems to be undermining the Crown’s own case. (video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/judge_in_high_profile_trial_of_tamara_lich_is_very_unhappy_with_crown_s_evidentiary_fumbling)
Day 5 (Sept 11): Much of the day was spent disputing the relevance of witnesses being brought forward by the prosecution – many of them to allege public urination and littering and the exhaust fumes from trucks parked on Ottawa streets. The judge pushed back stating that the trial is focused on the charges of mischief placed on the two accused and if they are not directly involved in said public urination, etc., she does not want to hear it. "The impact [of the Freedom Convoy] isn't relevant," the judge said in relation to her final adjudication of the charges against Barber and Lich. (video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/tamara_lich_and_chris_barber_freedom_convoy_organizers_day_5_trial_recap)
Day 6 (Sept 12): Videos made by Tamara and Chris, which were shown by the prosecution (the Crown) continue to demonstrate that both of them consistently called people to come to Ottawa and protest peacefully; there was also video of Tamara asking protesters to pray for forgiveness for those who are doing wrong, as well as her objection to the ‘Frack Trudeau’ flags (with tears in her eyes). Keep in mind that the prosecution characterized the protest as ‘anything but peaceful’ (!!!) in the opening day of the trial. (video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/tamara_lich_and_chris_barber_freedom_convoy_organizers_day_6_trial_recap)
Now, I'm not a lawyer, but so far this has been the 'lamest' prosecution I have ever seen - by a loooong shot. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that the Crown's lawyers had been 'bought off' by Tamara and Chris. Utterly bizarre!
Honk honk!
Ron M
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Date: 2023-09-13 07:34 am (UTC)Kind regards
Sean
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Date: 2023-09-13 04:36 pm (UTC)Ecosophia Prayer List
Date: 2023-09-13 02:45 pm (UTC)If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.
Here are a few of the prayer requests on this week's list.
May Erika's partner James, who has just learned he has cancer all over inside him on his liver and lungs, be blessed, healed and protected.
Christine Marie and Stephen Paul are to be married in Cardiff Castle on Thursday 21 September at 9:00am. May they (and Christine's children Hugo and Casper) be blessed with a successful marriage full of love, good health, and happiness.
In the case of Princess Cutekitten and the large bank who is suing her, may justice be done, with harm to none.
May Josh Schaad's soul be blessed and eased in his soul's transition into death, and may his wife Alyssa and sons Gavin and Caden be blessed and protected, and find what comfort they can during this very difficult time.
Neptunesdolphin's husband has just had his big toe partially amputated due to a staph infection, and his diabetes has worsened in connection. He and she and son all are struggling to cope with the difficult situation, made no easier by the fact that all three have different varieties of mental impairment. May Neptunesdolphin's husband heal quickly and vigorously, and successfully manage his diabetes; and may her family all get through the situation successfully and with grace.
Lp9's hometown, East Palestine, Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people, animals and all living beings in and around East Palestine, and to improve the natural environment there to the benefit of all.
Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are now to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.
If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.
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Date: 2023-09-13 03:28 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/safe-effective-dr-fauci-now-admits-covid-vaccines/
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Date: 2023-09-13 03:29 pm (UTC)Congress is investigating claims that spies were paid to declare the outbreak was natural
https://www.rt.com/news/582859-cia-whistleblower-covid-origins/
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Date: 2023-09-13 07:33 pm (UTC)Just turn off the media. All of it.
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Date: 2023-09-13 03:30 pm (UTC)https://www.cbs7.com/2023/09/13/odessa-city-council-votes-not-enforce-state-or-federal-covid-mandates/
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Date: 2023-09-13 04:42 pm (UTC)I'm reminded this week of how, back in 2021, I so often felt this peculiar contradiction, that on the one hand it felt like everything was stuck in cold mud, while on the other hand, it felt like things were changing fast and in wildly bizarre ways.
Cetiosaurus
"The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients..."
Date: 2023-09-13 06:17 pm (UTC)"We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection."
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219
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Date: 2023-09-13 06:23 pm (UTC)Also, does anyone know that they actually were not stored properly? I know the initial claims for storage requirements were crazy, but I'm not sure anyone had ever tried storing the mRNA vaccines which used the synthetic N1-Methylpseudouridine: which appears to be vastly more stable than regular mRNA.
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Date: 2023-09-14 12:57 am (UTC)Good speculative arguments on both sides, so…hard to tell.
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2023-09-18 08:19 am (UTC) - ExpandHealing from jab injuries / clots
Date: 2023-09-13 07:09 pm (UTC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spGFp1HSSfQ
My Community is Not Excited about the new Booster
Date: 2023-09-13 10:47 pm (UTC)So far there are 24 comments and all but one of them are opposed to it. The one outlier's support for the shot was kind of weak too.
I take this as a good sign, at least for my community.
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Date: 2023-09-13 10:58 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/ny-gov-kathy-hochuls-delivers-devastating-news-vaccinated/
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Date: 2023-09-14 03:38 am (UTC)Okay, so Hochuls' delivery was always a bit stomach-churning, but she used to place way off the charts for her smug, self-satisfied delivery. We're talking about a world-class hubris here! What possibly could have happened to the poor thing? Now she kind of comes across the way that Rabbit did after spending a night alone in the forest while trying to debounce Tigger. Could Hochuls’ trying to force all the unvaxxed to get vaccinated have succeeded in doing that to her? We were meant to become a Humble Unvaxxed, a Small and Sad Unvaxxed, an ‘Oh, Hochuls, am I glad to see you’ Unvaxxed. Is it possible that she instead became a Humiliated Hochuls, a Lost-and-Found Hochuls, a ‘Why, oh why do these things happen to me’ Hochuls? She certainly doesn’t sound like the same smugly over-confident Rabbit any more. Oops, I meant Hochuls!
(My apologies for borrowing from the modified cartoon text of Milne’s brilliant parable rather than his original version. My own copy of his book is unfortunately stored away in boxes at the moment, and Disney appears to have managed to use its purchase of his copyright control to scrub the internet of the original, leaving just the bastardized Disney version out there. How predictably Disneyesque of them!)
— Christophe
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Date: 2023-09-13 11:00 pm (UTC)https://nypost.com/2023/09/05/babys-brown-eyes-turn-blue-overnight-after-covid-19-treatment/
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Date: 2023-09-14 09:46 am (UTC)Just like a sacred cow
Visions of swastikas in my head!
Plans for everyone!
It's in the white of my eyes!
My little China girl
You shouldn't mess with me
I'll ruin everything you are
You know
I'll give you television
I'll give you eyes of blue
I'll give you a man who wants to rule the world!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YC3sTbAPcU
The Ninth Mouse
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Date: 2023-09-13 11:01 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/fauci-says-mask-recommendations-could-return-if-there/
Latest on mask research
Date: 2023-09-16 01:37 pm (UTC)First of all, they don't work. Second of all, they are detrimental to your health.
September 16, 2023
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/even-more-evidence-that-nobody-should
I recently updated my Bangladesh study mask article to add two new resources of interest.
A paper published in JAMA in 2019 showed that surgical masks and N95 masks were completely ineffective against the flu. They both offered the same amount of protection, i.e., none. This is of course why nobody wears them to stop a virus. In fact, the surgical mask actually performed slightly better than the N95 mask in the study. How can that be? It’s obvious: both masks offered no protection whatsoever so it was a wash and the differences were simply random.
This tweet by Robin Monotti summarizes a new study done in Germany showing that masks cause unsafe levels of CO2 with devastating health consequences that the CDC doesn’t want anyone to know about.
continue reading... https://kirschsubstack.com/p/even-more-evidence-that-nobody-should
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