Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 110

[ecosophia]

We are now in the third year of these open posts. As the phrase "died suddenly" repeats in the mass media like a mantra, statistics for work days lost to illness and all-cause mortality mount up in heavily vaccinated nations, and more and more ugly facts about the official response to Covid spill out into public, we are entering what may well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster -- the phase in which denial rises in lockstep with the death rate, and a great many people try not to admit what has been done to them by the people and institutions they trusted. It could get ugly, folks.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I know an unvaccinated person who seems to be part of this same egregore, it looks like is part of this demonic pact. It is strange since he is not even in US nor has ever been, he also hated Trump. How do this people were able to be part of the same group.

What will happen with thia marginal people...

Also makes me wonder what kind of power this demon has, could it be a satan, not The Satan, but it office role for this times.

[goucampo]

I will continue to keep maximum distance between myself and the pharma industry at all times. Eat well, live well, no shots of any kind, thank you. Good luck to everyone.

People getting sick, in warm weather

[(Anonymous)]

It's not even fall yet but in the last two weeks I have four co-workers who all got rather sick, presumably all of them having received the "vaccine". Two with covid, two with mystery illnesses.

I don't remember a time in my life where people were missing work so much before the weather has even turned cool. There is a part of me that wonders how much of this could be psychosomatic – one sees the people around them getting ill and then they get ill. If it's actually "real" illness at this time of year, I am worried about what the winter is going to look like just from the standpoint of friends, coworkers, and loved ones becoming sick, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

jmg - you stating that this period may "well turn out to be the most difficult period of the Covid disaster" has me concerned. I can see the pieces lining up for a rather brutal season.

Wishing strength and good health to all.

Parts per Million

[(Anonymous)]

Does anyone here know the ratio for cooties on PPM?

Masking as an informed, individual choice

[escorcher]

I'm probably gonna regret this but here goes.

I'm just not completely dismissive of masks.

I have worn a fitted one for short periods of time in our house communal areas for the last few days out of courtesy to my housemates as I currently am setting lfts bright red. I'm also opening windows and washing my hands on occasion.

I absolutely agree longer-term en-masse masking doesn't work but selectively and with the right product I think they can be useful in reducing likelihood of infection over short periods of time. They are especially useful if the wearer is the one with an infection and is trying to avoid passing it on. I do get that more than short term use is probably not healthy for the wearer, hence why I will limit my time where I feel I need one.
I also get why someone with a big bushy beard might not bother!

Of course I would probably care quite a lot less in all this if my partner did not have a chronic health condition but there you go.

[(Anonymous)]

Found this on DEnis Rancourt's website home page.

2021-08-02 ::: Open Letter to the Unvaccinated

Angela Durante, Denis Rancourt, Claus Rinner, Laurent Leduc, Donald Welsh, John Zwaagstra, Jan Vrbik, Valentina Capurri

You are not alone! As of 28 July 2021, 29% of Canadians have not received a COVID-19 vaccine, and an additional 14% have received one shot. In the US and in the European Union, less than half the population is fully vaccinated, and even in Israel, the “world’s lab” according to Pfizer, one third of people remain completely unvaccinated. Politicians and the media have taken a uniform view, scapegoating the unvaccinated for the troubles that have ensued after eighteen months of fearmongering and lockdowns. It’s time to set the record straight. [...]

[fringewood]

I got an email today from an online vendor we buy from that sells Berkey water filters. We have one we have used for about 14 years now. According to the email "in some areas (mainly California), government authorities have sought for years to curtail Berkey sales. Those government authorities have offered their justifications, while many others have seen very different motives.

The latest move is that the U.S. EPA has now declared that Berkey water purifiers are a pesticide (seriously…), and therefore under their regulatory authority. Berkey is currently under a government order to cease production. As a result, we (and all distributors) are unable to order any more stainless systems, and our remaining stocks are very low."

I was curious as to how this all unfolded, so I watched a video interview with the owner on X(ugh) at https://twitter.com/absolutewithe/status/1699923966582821135?s=46&t=YOYLTb1OndfnTUo90FwYGg&_kx=UH2FPTupPcHsgw_EKmdnN0WHck_C_VggXbMYZLXnTZg%3D.Yj5Ze
and around 4 min the owner states that the EPA said "because of the threat of covid 19 being in the water, they want to make water filters that remove virus unavailable to the American people."

Okay, that's weird. Not sure what to think of this, but it feels like the whole ivermecton control issue in a new direction.

[(Anonymous)]

Unvaxxed here...
I got what I believe to be COVID a few weeks ago, and was down for three days, exhausted for maybe three more. A week and a half after I got over it, I had rebound symptoms that resolved within 24 hours, although now a couple of days out I am still feel off. My wife has been left with a cough that won't go away. We can control it with quercetin and bromelain and omega 3, but once the supplements wear off it is still there somewhat. I'll probably have to take her in for some prednisone and/or a steroidal inhaler soon. As with the first round of COVID two years ago, my kids barely got it, one day or less of feeling bad and they bounced back.
I say all this to say that the current variant is rotten. Especially if you are older.

Benadryl & Sudafed canceled

[(Anonymous)]

Craaaaazy. A whole class of over-the-counter medications including Benadryl and Sudafed suddenly pulled! Out of the blue, the FDA says, “Yeah, akshully, they don’t work..”

Whaaaat???! Probably every medicine cabinet in America has one of these!

Here’s one article with details:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/fda-panel-rules-that-popular-decongestant-found-cold/

I don’t know what to make of this. Talk about a shrinking trust horizon! How can anyone trust any pharmacy or doctor anymore!

Missed again,

[(Anonymous)]

Hot of the PBS press;

"The emergence of BA.2.86 underscores the need for flexibility in current vaccine strategies to ensure continued effectiveness against these new variants. The newly FDA-approved fall 2023 COVID-19 booster shots are formulated to target XBB.1.5, which was dominant in early 2023 when public health officials made the reformulation decisions. The 2022 booster shot was designed to target both the original strain of SARS-CoV-2 as well as the BA.4 and BA.5 omicron lineages."

So, the new shots just approved do not work on the variant currently circulating. They do work (supposedly) against the version from six months ago.

Trust in Science, Revisited

[(Anonymous)]

Regular readers may remember a post of mine a few weeks ago about a public talk to be hosted at the University of Waterloo (Canada) on "the importance of trust in science and technology." (Link to original thread at bottom of this post).

Well, I just came home from that talk, and long story short... I shook hands with the enemy.

The panelists were three professors who lead the newly formed Trust in Research Undertaken in Science and Technology (TRuST) scholarly network, moderated by the host of our local CBC radio morning hour. (CBC is the government-funded national news network that went hook, line and sinker for the covid narrative).

My impression is that the profs are genuine people who genuinely believe in the merits (and flaws) of scientific enterprise, and who genuinely don't understand why people have lost trust in that enterprise.

I was wrong in my initial understanding, based on the event flyer, that there wouldn't be audience participation. There was, indeed, quite lively and well-moderated live audience participation. I got to speak into the microphone and address my concerns about how these kinds of (very important!) discussions frequently fail when one side gets referred to right off the bat as 'those people' or victims of 'misinformation'. That comment was well received.

I went up after the event to speak with the member of the panel who seemed to me the most reasonable, and shook her hand. (This was the dean of engineering, who was ready to admit bluntly, when questioned about covid science policy failures, that isolating kids at home during lockdown was a bad idea). I told her that I know they're hoping to hear from people on the other side of the fence, and that I'd be happy to talk further.

Whew!

So we'll see where that goes. Folks, the way I see it we are in a war, a war that may be in a state of truce at the moment, but which is far from over, and which must eventually end the way all wars do: with diplomacy and negotiation. I'm not ready to trust the people who started this war, or to cease my preparations for the next round, but if I can be part of the backroom conversations that lay the foundations for some kind of eventual regeneration of public trust (including but not limited to trust in science) then I'd like to give it a try.

Dylan

Original thread about the Trust Science event here:
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/245054.html?thread=42807614#cmt42807614

Bizarre Case Against Tamara & Chris

[(Anonymous)]

For those who are interested in the ongoing court case against two of the key organizers of the February 2022 Freedom Convoy (Chris Barber and Tamara Lich), here’s a brief run-down of the last few days.

Day 3 (Sept 7): The prosecution shared numerous TikTok videos produced by Chris Barber during the protest in which he continuously called the movement to be peaceful, referred to Mahatma Gandhi and stressed that the protest is not ‘anti-vax’. Now, he also repeatedly used the term "tyranny" to describe violations of constitutional rights imposed by all levels of government – but is that ‘mischief’?
(video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/tamara_lich_and_chris_barber_freedom_convoy_organizers_day_3_trial_recap)

Day 4 (Sept 8): The judge stated on multiple occasions that she was ‘very unhappy’ with the prosecution’s attempt to use chat logs from Chris and Tamara’s phones as evidence, as it violates disclosure policies and makes it very difficult for the defence to respond (as this was not submitted by the August 1 deadline). Evidence presented by the prosecution continues to include many videos by Chris hammering home the message that the protest must be peaceful – which seems to be undermining the Crown’s own case. (video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/judge_in_high_profile_trial_of_tamara_lich_is_very_unhappy_with_crown_s_evidentiary_fumbling)

Day 5 (Sept 11): Much of the day was spent disputing the relevance of witnesses being brought forward by the prosecution – many of them to allege public urination and littering and the exhaust fumes from trucks parked on Ottawa streets. The judge pushed back stating that the trial is focused on the charges of mischief placed on the two accused and if they are not directly involved in said public urination, etc., she does not want to hear it. "The impact [of the Freedom Convoy] isn't relevant," the judge said in relation to her final adjudication of the charges against Barber and Lich. (video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/tamara_lich_and_chris_barber_freedom_convoy_organizers_day_5_trial_recap)

Day 6 (Sept 12): Videos made by Tamara and Chris, which were shown by the prosecution (the Crown) continue to demonstrate that both of them consistently called people to come to Ottawa and protest peacefully; there was also video of Tamara asking protesters to pray for forgiveness for those who are doing wrong, as well as her objection to the ‘Frack Trudeau’ flags (with tears in her eyes). Keep in mind that the prosecution characterized the protest as ‘anything but peaceful’ (!!!) in the opening day of the trial. (video and description here: https://www.rebelnews.com/tamara_lich_and_chris_barber_freedom_convoy_organizers_day_6_trial_recap)

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but so far this has been the 'lamest' prosecution I have ever seen - by a loooong shot. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that the Crown's lawyers had been 'bought off' by Tamara and Chris. Utterly bizarre!

Honk honk!

Ron M

More bad news

[seanbolger1]

https://thorsteinn.substack.com/p/vaccine-uptake-and-deaths-where-are

Kind regards
Sean

Ecosophia Prayer List

[tunesmyth]

At this link is a complete list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared across the Ecosophia community. A printable version of the entire prayer list current as of 9/11 may be downloaded here. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below.

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Here are a few of the prayer requests on this week's list.

May Erika's partner James, who has just learned he has cancer all over inside him on his liver and lungs, be blessed, healed and protected.

Christine Marie and Stephen Paul are to be married in Cardiff Castle on Thursday 21 September at 9:00am. May they (and Christine's children Hugo and Casper) be blessed with a successful marriage full of love, good health, and happiness.

In the case of Princess Cutekitten and the large bank who is suing her, may justice be done, with harm to none.

May Josh Schaad's soul be blessed and eased in his soul's transition into death, and may his wife Alyssa and sons Gavin and Caden be blessed and protected, and find what comfort they can during this very difficult time.

Neptunesdolphin's husband has just had his big toe partially amputated due to a staph infection, and his diabetes has worsened in connection. He and she and son all are struggling to cope with the difficult situation, made no easier by the fact that all three have different varieties of mental impairment. May Neptunesdolphin's husband heal quickly and vigorously, and successfully manage his diabetes; and may her family all get through the situation successfully and with grace.

Lp9's hometown, East Palestine, Ohio, for the safety and welfare of their people, animals and all living beings in and around East Palestine, and to improve the natural environment there to the benefit of all.

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Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are now to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

[(Anonymous)]

SAFE AND EFFECTIVE: Dr. Fauci Now Admits COVID Vaccines Cause Myocarditis

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/safe-effective-dr-fauci-now-admits-covid-vaccines/

[(Anonymous)]

CIA bribed analysts into Covid-19 conclusion – whistleblower
Congress is investigating claims that spies were paid to declare the outbreak was natural

https://www.rt.com/news/582859-cia-whistleblower-covid-origins/

[(Anonymous)]

Odessa City Council votes to not enforce state or federal Covid mandates

https://www.cbs7.com/2023/09/13/odessa-city-council-votes-not-enforce-state-or-federal-covid-mandates/

[(Anonymous)]

Week 110! Thank you very much, JMG, and thank you also, forumistas.

I'm reminded this week of how, back in 2021, I so often felt this peculiar contradiction, that on the one hand it felt like everything was stuck in cold mud, while on the other hand, it felt like things were changing fast and in wildly bizarre ways.

Cetiosaurus

"The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients..."

[(Anonymous)]

The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study
"We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection."

https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219

[(Anonymous)]

I keep seeing claims that because of poor storage, a large number of the vaccines that went into people's arms were actually inert sludge. Does anyone know that they actually turn into inert sludge if stored improperly, instead of turning into something else with biologically active properties?

Also, does anyone know that they actually were not stored properly? I know the initial claims for storage requirements were crazy, but I'm not sure anyone had ever tried storing the mRNA vaccines which used the synthetic N1-Methylpseudouridine: which appears to be vastly more stable than regular mRNA.

Healing from jab injuries / clots

[(Anonymous)]

This is new and unlisted on YT (I suppose to avoid getting wiped off by censors)-- looks like a lot of very good information about healing from jab injuries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spGFp1HSSfQ

My Community is Not Excited about the new Booster

[slinky_weasel]

My local online newspaper published the new guidelines from the CDC recommending the new clot shot for ages 5 and up. (It breaks my heart that people are injecting children so young.)

So far there are 24 comments and all but one of them are opposed to it. The one outlier's support for the shot was kind of weak too.

I take this as a good sign, at least for my community.

[(Anonymous)]

NY Gov. Kathy Hochuls Delivers Devastating News for Vaccinated: “It is Literally a New Vaccine, It is Not a Booster Shot…” Old Vaccine is “Not Protecting You Today”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/ny-gov-kathy-hochuls-delivers-devastating-news-vaccinated/

[(Anonymous)]

Infant’s dark brown eyes turn bright blue overnight after COVID-19 treatment

https://nypost.com/2023/09/05/babys-brown-eyes-turn-blue-overnight-after-covid-19-treatment/

[(Anonymous)]

Fauci Says Mask ‘Recommendations’ Could Return if There is a ‘Significant Uptick’ in COVID-19 Cases This Fall and Winter

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/fauci-says-mask-recommendations-could-return-if-there/