Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70
Dec. 6th, 2022 01:58 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 05:36 pm (UTC)Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 05:36 pm (UTC)Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 05:40 pm (UTC)Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 05:43 pm (UTC)Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 05:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-07 05:51 pm (UTC)My boss and I were just talking about Died Suddenly, and why with the Bigfoot and conspiracy - was it a QAnon setup?
And she said "Are they trying to say it's real like Bigfoot? Or fake?"
See, she was an archaeologist - no one has good non-materialist stories like ecologists and archaeologists (I'd also wager experimental physicists, but I don't know any to test this theory). To get a bunch of scientists to believe in Bigfoot and ghosts, the data have to be over the top, undeniable, and unlooked-for. And so that's what they get. Like a structure, built of five foot diameter tree logs, with tanned skin roof, in the middle of deep, mountainous forested nowhere - and the First Nations assistants explain this is a typical Bigfoot house.
Everyone has stories like this, though, you start in, then they all start coming out, then they're allowed to talk about other things no one believes in, but they have irrefutable data for...
Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 06:01 pm (UTC)Since my father told me about his new heart condition, I began doing prayers and making simple offerings (candle, Orphic hymn, honey) petitioning for his healing on each Sunday to the Sun at the hour of the Sun. (I chose the Sun as the focus of prayer because it rules the heart, as well as traditionally being a god of vitality and health.) At first I was planning to only do a sequence of 6 sessions, but somehow it's gone on for longer than that and I guess I'll basically continue indefinitely until such time as my father clearly is better.
Anyway, the generous anonymous poster who offered to pray on my father's behalf, as well as the other anonymous poster who says that they also have sustained heart damage from the vaccine, gives me an idea. Do you think it would be appropriate to invite others in this forum who may be interested to join me in planetary prayers on Sundays, praying for the healing, health, and wellbeing of the people in our lives whose heart problems come, we suspect, from a vaccine injury?
Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-07 06:01 pm (UTC)SO, I and others independentally took a deep breathe, and took precautions. I did not go to a store or public place for a month. I went over to a prep type acquaintance outside and I was in googles, a real N95 mask, gloves. I was not the only one initially worried. A small number of people went to Costco and other grocery stores in similar equipment. This was a component of spooking the rest of the people. Next thing, we get stores volunteering to bring things outside to hand off, limiting how many people inside, etc.... this was before any government mandate, it was done to serve the customer base demanding it. It was voluntary, so not all public places, this was retail, while other public places did not see the customer demand to do so. I was very upset when we started to get government MANDATED rules on grocery store and other public places.
Especially ludicrous the mandates to close the beaches and redwood forest parkland. And, make no mistake, this was mostly done to keep the out of towners away, the "others" that locals did not want to spread it here. Total government overreach, and it is GOOD for people to go out of doors, and the government does not have the RIGHT to do this. And, so far as the locals here, well, these are not "our" beaches and forests, these are parks that belong to everyone in California, and California specifically has a law that declares ALL ocean front public, a certain distance from high water line, etc... there is really no such thing as a private beach, but some defect ones as people can't get there, but if you were to walk there along the water line, of course you are on public property.
Anyway, I became very alarmed by the mandates. Meanwhile people like Chris Martenson was being very alarmist about R0 ( that is R naught) the idea that any help even with a substandard mask could give a smaller viral load and thus a less virulent course to your illness. This, while not his intent, of course does feed into masks are needed, and all those people believing that masks of some type help is then translated by government authorities to mandate it.
Anyway, I started to doubt the whole narrative, while initially starting to sew masks for the cause, I did not, the material for donation sat unused. I worried more about the mandates. I also had been gathering other data points into my mind. The initial data that the cruise ships, full of old couples sharing rooms, did not become deathtraps. The idiocy of putting COVID ill into nursing homes to spread the illness. It was easy to read and see that the initial testing on the vaccines were not testing for spread of the illness, the test and data never looked for that. But then we were soon being lied to about how they worked. etc...
SO, sometime by end of spring 2020 I decided that the whole thing really was overblown. By this time, everyone around me had pivoted and everything was closed down and no one would hang out, etc... do inperson things.
As time went on, I would have previous friends and family members say, but you were originally worried, and I tried to explain, but then I got new data, the new data showed overblown worries, so I stopped worrying about it. They of course stayed firn in their worry and insistence on mandates, vaccines, etc....
The point is, at this point, how do we guard against the psyop that was pulled on us ? It could happen again. Maybe not so soon via a virus, but other problems. I feel duped of course. Those were not leaked videos I now think, this was purposeful. To draw us in. People demanded masks and mandates. Yes, especially the teachers, it was all about protesting themselves, they were scared.
Life giving water from the sky, I am so thankful,
Atmospheric River
(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-07 06:15 pm (UTC)"The first hint the Crown might have trouble winning its case against a nightclub accused of posting videos on social media of patrons flouting COVID-19 restrictions came when the judge overseeing the proceedings asked what Facebook was.
Things just went downhill from there.
...
"There are so many holes in this case — it's like someone shot a shotgun," Adair said at one point.
"There's holes all over the place. As I say, it's not just one blast of a shotgun. It's multiple blasts."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-lambda-facebook-vaccine-tickets-1.6676478
I can't even quote anything else, because every single paragraph is so funny, I can only recommend reading it (on a dark, stormy night, to coworkers who liked health authority over-reach ;-)).
Re: A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 06:36 pm (UTC)As Ponesse says, it's about "whether we matter." We, as unique individuals.
I mean, what's with the one-size-fits-all all must be jabbed? For those who think it is, we see how the authorities and so many other righteously injected people treat the vaxx injured. They made no meaningful provision for them at all, and they gaslighted them, censored them, neglected them, and even laughed at them.
I see this now swinging the other way out there... very messy.... so much resentment, anger, even explosive rage.
Ponesse is one of my heroes. She says what must be said, but with both heart and intelligent measure.
Cetiosaurus
Re: Can't remember hating being right before
Date: 2022-12-07 06:43 pm (UTC)Re: Internet's Effect on Covid Response
Date: 2022-12-07 06:47 pm (UTC)At least with the internet we had some possibility of public dissent and debate. It was still censored heavily, but the regime couldn't get all of it censored.
Re: Internet's Effect on Covid Response
Date: 2022-12-07 06:56 pm (UTC)https://unherd.com/2022/12/musk-is-becoming-a-true-caesar/
The alternative explanation, of course, is that the current politics, crises, propaganda, and mass panics are characteristic of civilizations at a particular post-peak phase heading into accelerating decline.
Certainly the internet has enabled some very specific phenomena (social media, Zoom work, etc.), but I'm not entirely convinced that it is responsible for the "phase change" in society that we are observing.
Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments
Date: 2022-12-07 07:05 pm (UTC)Re: open thread archive .epub, txt, html / the whole open thread and comments
Date: 2022-12-07 07:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-07 07:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-07 07:13 pm (UTC)Re: the new medical freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 07:18 pm (UTC)Re: Thank you
Date: 2022-12-07 07:21 pm (UTC)I have this system in my mind were the posts are linked to the Tarot
now post ID changed to
21xxxx I expected to end by 21xxxx
it started at 14xxxx
maybe the crazyness will end by 22xxxx
at week 78
what I saw last year as an worse case scenario nou looks like optimistic take
Re: The Club of Raving Lunatics
Date: 2022-12-07 07:40 pm (UTC)Not much to say to that, the goalposts just move from immunity to severity.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-07 07:41 pm (UTC)What I see is that most people are genuinely unaware of anything wrong with the vax. When (If) the dam bursts the shock will be massive.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-12-07 07:47 pm (UTC)For millenials I expect a major crisis as the cohort passes the age to get married and have children with out much to fall back on. How long can travel and hedonism sustain you? It’s always chasing the next thing with your wallet out.
I feel all this weighs on people in difficult to measure ways, greater than just covid as this was happening prior too.
Re: Link to Dr Fauci's transcript
Date: 2022-12-07 07:56 pm (UTC)Re: Vaccine Injuries
Date: 2022-12-07 08:00 pm (UTC)Re: the new medical freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 08:03 pm (UTC)https://www.awai.com/case-studies/christian-nix/
If video is more your thing, he has plenty of them, endlessly peddling his Pivot Protocol™. That's probably the trap that his cliff-hanger ending over at Malone's substack was designed to spring in "part two". Are we really to believe, with a fully canned system in his pocket, that he couldn't find the time to write a useful synopsis without resorting to used-car-salesmen's hooks, baits, and other forms of "stay tuned!!!" Ohhh... so that's where those exclamation points go.
His system is awfully food-combining and diet heavy, but the gods forbid that anyone should ever acknowledge the true diversity of health inputs that cause such a bewildering output of disease states. I guess it's just not as easy to sell the complexity of reality as it is to profiteer off of a one-size-fits-all, trademarked panacea.
"You somehow managed to evade the hard sell for the 'miracle' Co-vax panacea? Well, never fear. You can step right up and grab a hold of the anchor of my patented snake-oil panacea, instead! You can't possibly swim on your own, so latch onto my Pivot Protocol™ anchor... I mean life-preserver. It's safe and effective! All forms of payment accepted."
— Christophe