Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70
Dec. 6th, 2022 01:58 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
As we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-07 06:01 pm (UTC)SO, I and others independentally took a deep breathe, and took precautions. I did not go to a store or public place for a month. I went over to a prep type acquaintance outside and I was in googles, a real N95 mask, gloves. I was not the only one initially worried. A small number of people went to Costco and other grocery stores in similar equipment. This was a component of spooking the rest of the people. Next thing, we get stores volunteering to bring things outside to hand off, limiting how many people inside, etc.... this was before any government mandate, it was done to serve the customer base demanding it. It was voluntary, so not all public places, this was retail, while other public places did not see the customer demand to do so. I was very upset when we started to get government MANDATED rules on grocery store and other public places.
Especially ludicrous the mandates to close the beaches and redwood forest parkland. And, make no mistake, this was mostly done to keep the out of towners away, the "others" that locals did not want to spread it here. Total government overreach, and it is GOOD for people to go out of doors, and the government does not have the RIGHT to do this. And, so far as the locals here, well, these are not "our" beaches and forests, these are parks that belong to everyone in California, and California specifically has a law that declares ALL ocean front public, a certain distance from high water line, etc... there is really no such thing as a private beach, but some defect ones as people can't get there, but if you were to walk there along the water line, of course you are on public property.
Anyway, I became very alarmed by the mandates. Meanwhile people like Chris Martenson was being very alarmist about R0 ( that is R naught) the idea that any help even with a substandard mask could give a smaller viral load and thus a less virulent course to your illness. This, while not his intent, of course does feed into masks are needed, and all those people believing that masks of some type help is then translated by government authorities to mandate it.
Anyway, I started to doubt the whole narrative, while initially starting to sew masks for the cause, I did not, the material for donation sat unused. I worried more about the mandates. I also had been gathering other data points into my mind. The initial data that the cruise ships, full of old couples sharing rooms, did not become deathtraps. The idiocy of putting COVID ill into nursing homes to spread the illness. It was easy to read and see that the initial testing on the vaccines were not testing for spread of the illness, the test and data never looked for that. But then we were soon being lied to about how they worked. etc...
SO, sometime by end of spring 2020 I decided that the whole thing really was overblown. By this time, everyone around me had pivoted and everything was closed down and no one would hang out, etc... do inperson things.
As time went on, I would have previous friends and family members say, but you were originally worried, and I tried to explain, but then I got new data, the new data showed overblown worries, so I stopped worrying about it. They of course stayed firn in their worry and insistence on mandates, vaccines, etc....
The point is, at this point, how do we guard against the psyop that was pulled on us ? It could happen again. Maybe not so soon via a virus, but other problems. I feel duped of course. Those were not leaked videos I now think, this was purposeful. To draw us in. People demanded masks and mandates. Yes, especially the teachers, it was all about protesting themselves, they were scared.
Life giving water from the sky, I am so thankful,
Atmospheric River
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-07 08:10 pm (UTC)There is indeed a sucker born every minutes, and I've apparently been born more than once.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-07 08:57 pm (UTC)#1. Whatever the MSM says, I figure, hmmm, suspicious.
#2. I will not have a television in my house. Right there, that eliminates most trouble.
#3 When anyone (relative, friend, neighbor) tells me they got some info from watching TV or reading, oh, say, the New York Times, I figure, hmmmm, suspicious.
#4. I avoid Twitter and other social media because they are gamed by algos.
#5. I do my own research, and then I decide what makes sense, what doesn't make sense, and what is still, oh well, a mystery.
#6. I am willing to accept that some things are mysteries to me, rather than leap to conclusions that are not actually warranted. This can feel uncomfortable. But it works splendidly well, I find.
#7. My ego is not in charge. This allows me to take in new information.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 07:22 am (UTC)I am relay beginning to think that many things are also presented to us on the internet, in what we feel are alternate non-MSM sources that may actually also be a narrative fed to us. I feel like this happened with COVID during the initial time and instead of being some "real" stuff "snuck out" by caring individuals was likely psyop propaganda.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-07 09:42 pm (UTC)If the long term effects of the vaccine are as terrible as they seem, right now with available data, then I doubt anything like this will be attempted again in our lifetime.
When you blow your hands off playing with fireworks, well, then you don't have hands left to play with fireworks.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 12:05 am (UTC)Fireworks cure the flu right? :-o
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 08:58 am (UTC)Tautology is
Something tautological.
Safe and effective.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 08:39 am (UTC)Personally, I still don't have such a deal with wearing a mask on occasion if in certain medical or social care settings. It is not all or nothing no matter how many people keep polarizing. Now I know more (shops low risk), I don't bother for the shops or such. Of course, the time you're most likely to catch something is at home or socializing with friends, when eating in company etc. - and I suspect no one's successfully eaten an evening meal while wearing an N95, though I'm sure someone on Twitter will tell us different!
As for the jabs, this Australian ABC report influenced me early on:
'We've never made a successful vaccine for a coronavirus before. This is why it's so difficult'
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616
...and on from this, I never really saw anything in their development that convinced me they were:
1) going to work well
2) safe
And I still don't, for all their cleverness.
You can guess where I stand on mandates etc.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 10:51 am (UTC)Just about anything from Pharma
GMOs and the green revolution
Fluoride in the water
FFs are evil
Green energy
EVs
Climate change
Misinformation, love those fact checkers
Ukraine
Taiwan
China
Iran
and last but not least good old Democracy.
They're about to find those WMDs in Iraq I hear.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 01:35 pm (UTC)Reminds me of Don MacLean's words:
"The players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed?
The day the music died."
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-08 05:12 pm (UTC)Living through 2020 and I still can't believe everything that happened. What a crazy year. And the ones that followed too.
Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-09 10:11 am (UTC)Re: Accidental help to the narrative
Date: 2022-12-09 04:11 pm (UTC)