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me neitherAs we proceed through the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.   

Re: Can't remember hating being right before

Date: 2022-12-07 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In terms of elective surgeries, I'm wondering if part of it is the expense of them. With regular health insurance, the amount out-of-pocket can be many thousands and I saw that household debt overall is at the highest levels ever recorded. People might not be doing surgery because they just can't afford to do it.

Re: Can't remember hating being right before

Date: 2022-12-08 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] revert2mean
Public surgery in public hospitals, so funded by Medicare, free to the consumer. People queue in a waiting list. So in this case less surgery really means less surgery.

Re: Can't remember hating being right before

Date: 2022-12-08 07:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think revert2mean is in Oz.

If yes, down here in Oz, elective surgeries will be paid for by the state, if one can get a slot in a public hospital when one needs it, and waiting lists are often very long.

If one has private insurance, then one can get in much more quickly, which often means that one recovers better.

Down here though, at the moment, my local hospital is issuing advice not to go to emergency unless it is a 'real' emergency as they are really very busy (I don't think they've said it's covid, but let's face it, it probably is, or it's covid plus other bugs exploiting weakened immune systems), and I have heard that one Melbourne hospital has stopped elective surgeries due to covid, but are still doing emergency surgeries.

Debt levels down here must be absolutely through the roof - and interest rates are rising. Housing is outrageously expensive and covid appears to have made it even more expensive in many areas. Somehow the bubble never pops. It's just insane really. Another bunch of risks to add to the building pressure.

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