Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 70
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So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religious, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 03:01 pm (UTC)Julie is a regular contributor to Brownstone Institute publications. The latest has just been published, which appears to be the text of the speech she recently gave at a conference hosted by Rebel News in Calgary. There is so much packed into the speech, it is amazing! One can read it here: https://brownstone.org/articles/if-we-only-knew/
Julie names the names of individuals in the diseased heart of the Prime Minister’s Office who worked tirelessly at manipulating the public in recent years. As far as I know, nobody has done this before.
There is so much quotable material in the speech that to do it justice, I’d have to quote the whole thing. However, I’ll just leave a couple of teasers:
“The real COVID war is not a battle over what is true, what counts as information, what it means to #followthescience; it’s a battle over what our lives mean and, ultimately, whether we matter. It’s a battle over the stories we tell.”
“We tell our stories because this is what we’ve done for thousands of years to make sense of our fears, to communicate with people from other tribes, to give our ancestors some degree of immortality and to teach our children. We tell our stories because we believe a cry in the dark will eventually be heard. These stories are what set a crisis in context. And sometimes a crisis can be productive.
“In 1944, Jean Paul Sartre wrote an article for the Atlantic about those who fought against the occupation of France. Sartre begins the article with an apparent contraction:
“Never were we freer,” he wrote, “than under the German occupation. We had lost all our rights, and first of all our right to speak. They insulted us to our faces….The deported us en masse…. And because of all this we were free.”
“Free? Really?!
“For Sartre, it isn’t our circumstances that control us; it is how we interpret them. Sartre said they were unified because they all experienced the same fears, the same loneliness, the same uncertainty about the future.
“And it was the courage of those who resisted suffering amidst all of this that led them out of it.”
To this I add: salutations to all the writers and artists of all types who put their heart and souls into telling the stories that matter at this time; and to all the brave ones who put these stories into action in their own unique ways.
Freedom! Liberté!
Ron M
Re: A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 06:36 pm (UTC)As Ponesse says, it's about "whether we matter." We, as unique individuals.
I mean, what's with the one-size-fits-all all must be jabbed? For those who think it is, we see how the authorities and so many other righteously injected people treat the vaxx injured. They made no meaningful provision for them at all, and they gaslighted them, censored them, neglected them, and even laughed at them.
I see this now swinging the other way out there... very messy.... so much resentment, anger, even explosive rage.
Ponesse is one of my heroes. She says what must be said, but with both heart and intelligent measure.
Cetiosaurus
Re: A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 08:38 pm (UTC)Vaccine Damage: Real People - Adam
by Debi Evans, UK Column
Published December 1, 2022
https://rumble.com/v1ya2iu-vaccine-damage-real-people-adam.html
TRANSCRIPT - EXCERPT
1:11:14
DEBI EVANS: It is quite utterly shocking. Adam, I want to thank you so much for being so brave and speaking out. I know this has been completely exhausting for you. But as always, it's your voice that we need to hear. I would like to give you the last words. So Adam, you've got a message for the professionals, and for the public about that. What would it be?
ADAM ROWLAND: The professionals, Debi, it's, I'm absolutely disgusted. It's horrendous how they're treating human beings that were told to do the right thing. I was told to do the right thing. I'm a professional person, I'm not misinformation. They're completely ignoring us, our government, the people that's supposed to serve us.
June Raine, you're supposed to be the chief of the MHRA*, June. I watched you laugh at us. I watched you laugh when somebody asked you a question today. I brought questions into the board meeting that I attended a public board meeting today. You laughed at us with disrespect.**
There's enough evidence, June. There's evidence on the ONS website*** warning 301 people after the covid vaccine dying within 45 days. It's irrefutable evidence. Yet you're telling me that it's all been investigated. I put a question to you. Show me evidence that you're investigating this data. Make it transparent. You didn't answer the question.
It's inhumane what I'm going through and what others are going through. You think that we can just be ignored? I'm telling you this, June and your colleagues, we ain't going to go away. When I die, you can have that on your mind. If you can sleep at night.
Well, you disgust me. You absolutely disgust me, how we've been treated. I would never treat another human being like that. I just hope you sleep well at night. Because you know what's going on. You know what's going on. We never got told about the AstraZeneca vaccine why it was pulled so you know it's dangerous because you wouldn't have pulled it. You haven't got the decency to come up and admit that you're wrong. You'd rather just sweep us under the carpet.
I tell you, I'm not going to go away for all those people who're vaccinated, until my last breath you're going to hear from us.
And for anyone else who's suffering vaccine injury I know how it feels and I'm telling you you've got to start speaking up because these people don't want us to speak up. They want to sweep us under the carpet. They want to forget about us. And they want us to die. And that's how they're treating us and it's that simple.
1:14:06
[END OF EXCERPT]
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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:
Read the post about this interview at:
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/vaccine-damage-real-people-adam
*June Raine is CEO of the UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA)
https://www.gov.uk/government/people/june-raine
See also
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dr-june-raine-appointed-as-ceo-of-mhra
** Debi Evans, nursing correspondent for UK Column, reports with clips of the board meeting starting at 1:00:34.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-16th-november-2022
From the show notes:
MHRA: worst board meeting yet—insensitive, offensive, dangerous
51:47 Debi Evans introduces 15 November board meeting: exclusive full footage will be up on ukcolumn.org soon
52:29 MHRA board meeting ignores questions from several Covid vaccine-injured online attenders about safety and serious adverse reactions
"Are you realising the public are watching you?"
Unanswered question by Covid vaccine victim Charlet Crichton
Adam Rowland's unanswered questions
1:00:00 Clip: MHRA says it is difficult to present safety data to the public
Mike Robinson comment: This is sales patter
1:04:05 "Champagne on ice"—second clip from board meeting showcases the frivolity of MHRA Chief Technology Officer Claire Harrison
Wayne Cunnington’s blog on Substack [https://waynecunnington.substack.com/ ]
about the whole MHRA board meeting bursting into laughter at a patient safety question
Account of 15 November MHRA board meeting by Wayne Cunnington
Wayne Cunnington’s past article for UK Column
[ https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/dangerous-vaccine-and-medical-failures-waynes-story ]
1:09:00 Tweets from the public show extent of rage against the MHRA
***ONS is the UK's Office of National Statistics
https://www.ons.gov.uk
Re: A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 08:13 pm (UTC)They are in very, very short supply right now.
Liam in Toronto
Re: A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-07 08:15 pm (UTC)Re: A Brilliant Piece by a Lioness of Canadian Freedom
Date: 2022-12-10 05:03 am (UTC)i just watched dr. ponesse's "farewell lecture," and read the brownstone link. i highly recommend both to anyone who has yet to experience them.
one of my ways of, for lack of a better phrase, making the public aware of the counter-narrative was getting a pile of the covid wars: hero stickers to put on public property. i neglected to include dr. ponesse in the original purchase, and was happy to find her sticker when i looked again. let's just say she will be well represented once the next shipment arrives!
you did pick out some choice quotes from her presentation, but here is one i like:
Do we tell the story that our individual lives don’t matter, that we are expendable for the sake of the greater good, that technology will purify us, that if only we elect the right leaders, all our problems will be solved?
Or do we tell a better story? A story according to which our leaders are just a reflection of ourselves, that making ourselves wiser and stronger and more virtuous will always be better than relying on the state to make us healthy, safe and good, a story according to which we keep reaching for what we all deeply crave: meaning, mattering, and connecting with the humanity in others. This, I think, is a much more compelling story and the one we need to tell as we continue to fight.
you canucks have been a bright spot these last few years. you've taught us americans a lot about the freedom we blather on about.
i thank you all.