Magic Monday
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The image? I've decided to trace, as far as I can, my own occult lineage in photos. We're still tracing Juliet Ashley's end of the lineage. Two weeks ago I posted an image of her fourth teacher, Arthur Edward Waite, the Golden Dawn alumnus who passed onto her the rituals that became the foundation for the Fellowship of the Hermetic Rose. Waite, in turn, got his knowledge from the founders of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Last week I posted an image of one of these, the redoubtable William Wynn Westcott; this is Westcott's partner and rival in the project, Samuel Liddell Mathers. Another Freemason with a passion for the occult, and like Westcott a genuine scholar and mage, Mathers didn't have the organizational skills to keep the order together once Westcott stepped down from the leadership, and the Golden Dawn promptly blew itself to pieces in the squabbles that followed. Mathers remained in charge of one of the fragments thereafter, and he and his branch of the order will appear again once I get into some of the other ends of my lineage.
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Date: 2022-11-07 04:56 am (UTC)For practice background, I just began doing the course laid out in Paths of Wisdom four and a half weeks ago. On the recommendation of a more experienced occult practitioner I’ve also joined BOTA and begun its course, following work with the Sphere of Protection that began last December and included Cabala. Toward the end of my time with that routine, things were culminating with periods of alternating tension and release followed by an opening out into something. I’m not good with picking what details to include in my records so it’s not fully clear what was happening; it would be pretty hard to put into words anyway.
This, in turn, was preceded by about two years’ meditative work in the revived Kashmiri Shaiva tradition an various other experiments with religion and mysticism.
Not long ago I got promoted to a bar position at work and experienced a kind of clumsiness and felt dysfunction—with long strings of things going wrong—that I am not used to. I brushed it off as adjustment stress, until I noticed that whenever one guy I work with was present, not only were all the staff intimidated by him, but he had a tendency to take out his frustration on the young, nice, and naive. He is smarter and older than all the management, and I was his target type—unsuspecting of malice and tending to assume I’m responsible when anything around me goes wrong—until what I’m about to describe came about. It felt as if, since the promotion, a powerful spotlight were shining on me and every mistake I made. I assumed this was my own projection.
This man—let’s call him Jed—has a peculiar effect on naive young women, where they just seem to go out of whack after any significant interaction with him; and I’ve observed him tell the individuals involved—and others who might be threats to his job if he got on their bad side—blatant lies. Naive young men, on the other hand, just think he’s the coolest thing ever. I’m a gay man with not much work experience, so while I don’t fall into either of those categories, I share some characteristics with both.
Among the things I started to get scrutinized for was breaking glassware; it would just slip out of my hands or I’d bump into it in the most unexpected ways in the midst of trying to complete a self-imposed huge list of tasks I was allowed to believe was reasonable. The more anxiety I’d have about this, the more it would happen, the worse Jed’s attitude would be with me, the more in-the-right he’d seem, and the more incompetent I’d feel. At some point (I have to wear an earpiece) he forgot I was on mic and started blaming me unfairly over radio for an unfinished task to an impressionable supervisor, who has say over who gets laid off during the autumn staff cuts. (Previously he’d put picture in Slack of a dangerous mistake along these lines, in what I think was an attempt to get me fired). That was the last straw; I went upstairs and told him, without sass, that I hadn’t had time for it with everything else that’d been going on. All of a sudden his demeanor switched, like night and day, and he got very nice and pacifying—I’d never confronted him before.
On the same day or a proximate one—unfortunately I haven’t been keeping much record of all this—I was drinking a beer and venting to another co worker, and right when I got to something like the phrase, “…lets all of the blame fall on me,” he, several stools away, very slowly turned his head and looked at me out of the corner of his eye.
At my work employees get enormously charged with etheric energy during specific high pressure moments, when there are thick crowds. This is quite palpable and makes it hard to think straight. At these times I dimly observed what looked like Jed offloading his accreted “tension cloud” onto staff around him. I am among the most naturally absorbent there and realized that, if my observation was correct, I had been getting a large portion of his vented gunk. It clicked that over decades of doing what he does for a living, and trying to get the upper hand in restrictive life circumstances, he’d become expert at seeing into and dissimulating people, as well as manipulating psychic energy flows, in enterprise. Meanwhile I plop down in the midst of his realm carrying the energy of intensive daily magical practice, which he’d probably never encountered before; of course he would find my vibes threatening.
I then wrote a critical, but honest and unincendiary review of him that I knew he, the establishment’s owner, and management would see and left my name on it—something he must have thought was beyond me. This changed things. The tables turned and all of a sudden the incompetent feeling lifted, I felt overwhelming confidence, and the scrutiny stopped. Jed fell ill, and when he came back to work, he remarked that he hadn’t left his house in three days.
Concomitantly I felt a potent sense of freedom to act and expansion of self, as well as power; it felt like I had the level of influence he’d had previously. I wanted to use it positively; staff often come in recovering from nights out, on little sleep, or both, so a little deliberate presence, let alone assertiveness, goes a long way. I have to try hard to resist getting carried away with the feeling, when I do have the upper hand—the struggle between us is ongoing, and we have whole series’ of subtle interactions every time we work together. It’s exhausting. If I let down my guard I’ll feel the same diffident, off-kilter state beginning to descend; during shift change, for instance, when I’m about to get off and Jed’s just coming in, I’ll find myself spilling or breaking something when the team synergy and workflow up until then had proceeded without the least hiccup. Whenever he comes in, the whole vibe changes. I can’t see him altering his MO after 20 years.
At least one other person at work I’ll call Ted, who’s in a different department and exercises a similar kind of hypnotic influence over those around him, has done something similar to me (getting everyone, including myself, to suddenly see me in a negative light) in the past, when I worked with him. I didn’t know what it was at the time. He reminds me of a younger Jed, and I broke whatever he was doing in the same way, by talking about it out loud. The organization’s chart has a combust mercury. I felt him acting up again today as of late, I’ve finally felt comfortable prattling with him like I do others. Today I felt a switch and it seemed ill-received, followed by a sensation like a film of diffident queasiness descending over my experience of the world. His attacks, if that’s what they are, feel more depressive and not as much like a clumsy off-kilterness—and there are different but related reasons why he’d have it out for me. Right after I went home I did the banishing pentagram ritual—the feeling left. So I cast a long overdue geomancy chart under Chashmodai on “am I being psychically attacked?” Puer in the first and eigth houses, passing to the tenth. I could not have gotten a clearer confirmation of my conclusions after weeks of feeling it out. Several other figures translate and I’ll have to sus out what they’re doing, but that image alone hit me like a slap in the face. Is this seriously happening??
For the question--I have now been doing the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram for a little over the month, and am having trouble telling whether I am left more open when I go to the work on days I do the invoking form. Is it equally protective? Also, how do you maintain power once you have it? There is a sense of the faucet being turned on and off. And my biggest concern--how do you avoid getting carried away with it and thwarting yourself?
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:14 am (UTC)Second, at this point I'd recommend going to the banishing version of the LRP every day and adding in the Middle Pillar exercise. That will strengthen and protect you considerably. Once you've got that down, start doing the Rose Cross ritual once a week as well. No, the invoking form of the LRP doesn't protect you in the same way. Maintaining power -- well, that takes a lot of practice, and one month is barely a start. As for not getting carried away, here again, practice!
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From:Hu Gadarn
Date: 2022-11-07 05:00 am (UTC)I’ve been wanting to cultivate a devotional relationship with the Druid Revival gods, especially Hu Gadarn.
Are you aware of any other names that Hu the Mighty may have been worshipped by in the past?
And is he just as ‘legitimately a god’ as a being like Apollo or Odin?
Thank you as always for being here with us.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:16 am (UTC)2) What makes a god "legitimate"? If you invoke a deity and get a response, that's the only legitimacy you need.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:02 am (UTC)Thank you for this ongoing opportunity to bring our questions to you. Due to situational life changes and my own proclivity to start something new before finishing what I’ve started, I’ve started several courses of magical study, but have not yet satisfactorily finished one. I’m hoping to start building a sort of “snowball of accomplishment” by starting small and building up to larger courses of study. Can you please recommend any beneficial books/study courses/training programs, whether by you or anyone else, that take around a month or so to complete? I’m not picky regarding any particular system or tradition, and I’m not set on something explicitly magical - I’m open to anything within the esoteric/occult/psychospiritual realm or anything else that would benefit someone pursuing wisdom and self mastery.
Many thanks!
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:05 am (UTC)Thank you for your assistance with l'Affaire du Bateleur.
Rhydlyd
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:19 am (UTC)Two questions
Date: 2022-11-07 05:09 am (UTC)First, are there magical interpretations for seizures? Wondering if there is a higher level binding or separation aspect to it.
Second, how common are fae in the modern world? I’ve read (and greatly enjoyed!) Monsters. There’s been a few individuals I’ve met in my life that just seamed “off” in a very unexplainable way. Maybe 4 in 40 years. Interested in if people are still reporting encounters in recent years.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:20 am (UTC)2) Yes, very much so. Most reports in today's America misinterpret them as "aliens," but the fae have always enjoyed passing themselves off as whatever popular culture wants them to be.
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From:Silva Mind Control Method
Date: 2022-11-07 05:11 am (UTC)Any input from anybody else would also be welcome.
—Lunar Apprentice
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:17 am (UTC)Do you know if any of the occult traditions considered the SOP useful in dealing with parasites such as fungal infections? I'm asking purely for the purpose of historical research.
Thanks,
Omer
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:22 am (UTC)Fungal infection
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:19 am (UTC)1. I had success earlier this year with using the Conscious Willing exercises you've shared. However, this success was during a period where I was unemployed and then working from home. With my new job, I am in an office space with no windows, and it is a struggle for me to remember to practice my conscious willing exercises when I’m in an environment outside my normal home environment. Do you or anyone else have tips for working on conscious willing in new environments? (Should mention I already have a sticky note on my work computer that reads, “Use your willpower,” but I don’t notice it and so it doesn’t work for me.)
2. This is a question for amateur and expert natal astrologers out there and less so for Greer. How concerned should I be about dating people if I find they have some experience with magic and occultism, and my 9th house is ruled by Mars in the 12th house? The interpretation I got of that part of my chart is that I’d encounter obstacles with mainline religions and conflicts with spiritual teachers that could produce enemies (which is why I’m very grateful you answer questions and share your teachings via this online format, Greer). Divination has previously warned me away from most ritual magic because I would never find the appropriate mentor for such work in this life, and divination also warned me away from a group I was going to meet up with which would have had active occultists in it. This is all admittedly disappointing, since I’m a mystic that encountered my Awakening of the Soul via the simple magic of the Sphere of Protection ritual, and I would hope I can find a partner I could relate my experiences to on some relatable level. And since I apparently don’t fit well within a mainline religion like Christianity (not that I didn’t passionately try), I find myself in a seemingly lonely spot.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:24 am (UTC)2) I'll definitely leave this for others.
Excercises...
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From:Germanic Astronomy and Neglected Occultism
Date: 2022-11-07 05:19 am (UTC)I hope this week is off to a good start for everyone here and keeps on that way.
To Share: While doing some research, I stumbled onto a new sub-section of a site I already knew: Germanic Astronomy (http://www.germanicmythology.com/ASTRONOMY/GermanicAstrology.html) on the Germanic Mythology site (http://www.germanicmythology.com/index.html). Overall, the site is a collection of both primary and secondary sources, and is one of the most extensive I've found online. The astronomy section tries to reconstruct pre-Christian Germanic starlore (mostly "what did this constellation represent?"), largely by relying on comparative mythology. Like most comparative mythology, the discussion ranges pretty much from "yeah, that seems like an obvious parallel" to "let's pull out a star map and speculate wildly," so, approach with some discretion. If nothing else, I believe it will be a fruitful source of themes for meditation.
To Ask: Mostly for JMG, but interested to hear any thoughts from the commentariat as well: what areas of the western occult tradition do you feel are neglected that you'd like to see get more attention?
Thanks to JMG for this space and to those who contribute to it, and my well-wishes and blessings to anyone willing to take them.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:31 am (UTC)The neglected branches of occultism that matter most to me right now are the ones I'm working on relaunching via the Golden Section Fellowship: sacred geometry, classic occultism, Western internal alchemy, the interface between occultism and what's been clumsily labeled "earth mysteries," and the temple tradition I've been chasing down for all these years, for starters. Those aren't necessarily the most important of the lot, just the ones that fascinate me most. There are hundreds of others.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:24 am (UTC)This soul that is transmitted through sex, can be easily equivalated as being Kundalini in a an esoteric system that we are familiar to. Now we may argue that an early abortion is a sin against Kundalini and a later abortion against both souls.
Does the dable of the magical resistance into abortion rituals, using demonic sigils etc have roots into Satanism or other esoteric pedigree?
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:40 am (UTC)As far as I know -- I don't have any kind of contact with their leadership, you know! -- the magic-resistance brigade is getting into abortion rituals for two reasons. The first is that they know they can get a Donald Duck-style saliva-spraying frenzy from conservatives by doing that, and like most spoiled children, they love acting out if they thing that'll get them attention.
The second is that, yes, there seems to be an increasing overlap between the magic resistance and some of the Satanist groups out there, notably the Temple of Satan. I can remember when Wiccans and Neopagans would angrily reject the idea that they had anything to do with Satanism, and shunned Satanists accordingly, but there's been an astonishingly rapid ethical collapse in many parts of the Wiccan/Neopagan scene; even before politics sent them raving and foaming, quite a few leading figures in the scene cashed in their ideals and started getting into demonolatry and evil magic of various kinds. Not coincidentally, that's when I dropped the Neopagan scene like a hot rock and stopped having anything to do with the people in question.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:25 am (UTC)I have two questions:
In mundane astrology, is there any possibility to find out if the right time for an eclipse chart is the opposition or conjunction between Sun and Moon or the time of biggest eclipse?
Do you plan to cpntinue your lessons on mundane astrology? It has been a while since the last lesson, Mars in the Houses.
Thanks!
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:42 am (UTC)2) Yes, very much so. I just got bushwhacked by two eclipses, the death of Elizabeth II, and the inaugurations of two British prime ministers! I should have something up within the month.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:25 am (UTC)1. I just moved to a new apartment. I was wondering if there is a western equivalent of Feng shui? How can I learn some of it to design my new room?
2. I like waking up at 5 am to see the sun rise, but my habit is interrupted a lot by a tendency to go back to bed. I also have a bad habit of laying on my bed to initially read a book, but then wasting my entire evening by not getting up to do other things. I was impressed by your advice of putting a sharp metal object under computers to use them less. Do you know of something like that I could do to my bed?
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:28 am (UTC)This Saturday, right after making the donation, I felt a sudden and very strong urge to check my mailbox, something I rarely do as I'm not the one in the house who handles the mail. When I did so, I saw another organization, unrelated to the food bank I'm donating to, is running a food drive. Should I take this as a sign from Saturn that he wants me to make a donation to this food drive?
If this is the case, what would be an appropriate way to make this offering? I'm assuming something like picking 3 or 9 of the items listed as most in need, and getting 3 or 9 of each for the food drive would be an acceptable offering, but I'm still not entirely sure how to do this. I will, of course, continue with the regular donations I've pledged to do, and do this in addition to them.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:34 am (UTC)Lately, I had a run of bad luck on a recent trip and with the upcoming election and all the gunk it entails I decided to cast a shield chart on the question: Was my recent misfortune the result of malign magic? I got:
1st Mother: Tristwch
2nd Mother: Tristwch
3rd Mother: Bendith Fach
4th Mother: Bendith Fawr
1st Daughter: Gwyn
2nd Daughter: Gwyn
3rd Daughter: Tristwch
4th Daughter: Mab
1st Niece: Pobl
2nd Niece: Ffordd
3rd Niece: Pobl
4th Niece: Bendith Fach
LW: Bendith Fach
RW: Ffordd
Judge: Bendith Fawr
Trying not to overthink things, I'm interpreting the judge Bendith Fawr, being very positive, as YES, so there is malign magic at work. LW Bendith Fach suggests it is incidental - I am not necessarily an intended target, but was in the splash zone with the connection to 4th niece suggesting a loose colleague caster and 3rd mother indicating its in the past. RW Ffordd suggests I am isolated from it and 2nd niece indicates said isolation is from my circumstances (Makes sense - I was on a trip so there was extra distance). Fford + Bendith Fach = Bendith Fawr looks like whatever got thrown at me managed to get spun around to turn out better than expected, and I just need to soldier on and clean everything up.
Is that how you would read it? It feels extremely fortune-loaded for there being alleged malign magic at work.
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Date: 2022-11-07 05:45 am (UTC)Would a charity donating story books to disadvantaged families be good for planetary charity to Mercury?
Thanks
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Date: 2022-11-07 06:04 am (UTC)The second, if you can afford it, is to find a good professional astrologer who knows how to rectify a chart. It's possible, using events in your life that are foretold in your birth chart, to work out the missing ascendant; it's a challenging branch of astrology but some people are very good at it. That would give you a complete chart -- though of course you'll have to pay for it.
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Date: 2022-11-07 06:17 am (UTC)https://www.deviantart.com/lauratolton/art/Dress-Tutorial-178452236
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Date: 2022-11-07 06:47 pm (UTC)Writing as Magic and Miniature Theaters
Date: 2022-11-07 06:43 am (UTC)Regarding writing and magic. I have successfully added daily 15 minute free writing sessions to my morning practices. It is practically my 4th daily practice done right after the primary three. Something feels unusual about this writing exercise. Kind of like when I am meditating and feel a bigger sense of the theme.
I understand I may not be expressing myself very clearly. Done subtly and in certain ways could writing used to great magical effect? Anyone write about this if it is a thing? Or is it a matter of studying/meditating on the works of others?
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Does writing have the potential to help develop the mental sheath?
Are there any good sources of information concerning RPG and the occult?
I am not developing a game. But a friend who does develop RPGs as a hobby has inspired me to explore some ideas. Primarily, there might be something magically useful in creating scenes on a table top stage of some kind. A scene maybe sparking imaginative play, exploration of ideas with physical objects, and maybe even some magic?
Regardless, I am having fun collecting the bits and pieces for such a miniature theater. Tiny cubes,a DnD wizard, clothes pins, dice of various kinds, maybe fairy led lights, etc.... I am even going to look for some stones to make a mini dolmen arch.
Thanks,
Eric
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Date: 2022-11-07 07:08 pm (UTC)1) Most D&D players these days don't make a ton of use out of miniatures, so if you go searching for mini stuff using terms like "D&D" you might have trouble finding what you want. Miniature wargames, on the other hand, are all about this. The word "terrain" is used for the scenery, rather than the figures, and there are all kinds of tutorials on how to make everything from hills to ruined buildings to yes, standing stones (high-density pink/blue insulation foam is a good choice for getting the look, but maybe not as good magically!).
2) Scale can be useful to know about if you're tracking down/making such things. The most common scale is "28mm" which means that a human figure is roughly 28mm tall. This method is not as accurate as the ratio scales preferred by folks who build model vehicles (like 1:144 or the like), but is more immediately relevant to folks focused on "how big are the figures?". Games Workshop makes the most popular fantasy miniature game, Warhammer, and its back catalog has a lot of mostly D&D-relevant stuff, but they're pricey. More recently, apparently 3D printers have become popular, especially for less common scales like 15mm.
I've been into the miniature side of the hobby almost as long as RPGs, so feel free to hit me up if you'd like to discuss!
Cheers,
Jeff
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From:I am a blabbermouth
Date: 2022-11-07 06:51 am (UTC)Firstly, regarding the covid mania demons vs angry god discussion, I think obviously it's an angry god. The logic is just so, as you say, precise. A society obsessed destroying everything for short-term profit ends up injecting billions of healthy people with a dangerous medical treatment for short-term profit, possibly creating - instead of stopping - a dangerous contagious illness, but nobody cares about results, only profits.
Secondly, an entity's been standing next to my bed for the last few weeks. Normally I can just give things like that a shove and they go, but not this one. Prayer, archangels, etc. don't seem to make any difference. IMHO he's not a ghost, and not a supportive and engaged spirit guide, and he doesn't seem to be malevolent. I don't know what he is. But he will not go. I asked the trees and they didn't actually seem too concerned. It's just coming up to a year since my dad died, so I don't know.
So, anyway, my previous conclusion about an angry god is, as I'm sure you know, very depressing.
So I'm not sure. Do you think my entity is: (1) making me upset to feed off my emotions, or (2) encouraging me to see the truth clearly?
Re: I am a blabbermouth
Date: 2022-11-07 07:32 pm (UTC)2) If it isn't malevolent and the trees aren't concerned, don't worry about it. Have you tried to talk to it, or (more importantly) listen?
Re: I am a blabbermouth
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Date: 2022-11-07 07:34 am (UTC)I’m busy working on your Druid magic system. But I’m also interested in the Fellowship of the Hermetic Rose. Is there any kind of reason why I couldn’t do both at the same time? Those two seem to be able to blend together, but what do I know.
Yours truly,
Taupe Grotesque Golem
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Date: 2022-11-07 07:53 pm (UTC)Way of the Warrior
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Date: 2022-11-07 08:17 pm (UTC)For what it's worth, I'm very glad to hear this. The warrior spirit is desperately needed these days, and the occult scene could use a good strong infusion of its virtues.
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From:Judson
Date: 2022-11-07 09:07 am (UTC)I've been doing the Judson banishing technique for a while, and for practicality I often do it in my bedroom.
However, I had the thought the other day of where the etheric waste products actually *go* and whether they are just lingering in my bedroom? I typically keep some Florida water in the bedroom, but what else would remove the waste, or would I be best doing the technique elsewhere?
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Date: 2022-11-07 08:18 pm (UTC)What is planetary charity
Date: 2022-11-07 09:09 am (UTC)I see, every week, lots of queries about planetary charity. But what is it, and where can I learn about it? You probably wrote a book about it, needless to say I would be happy to go buy it.
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