Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 53

[ecosophia]

As we move into the second year of these open posts, it's pretty clear that the official narrative is cracking as the toll of deaths and injuries from the Covid vaccines rises steadily and the vaccines themselves demonstrate their total uselesness at preventing Covid infection or transmission. It's still important to keep watch over the mis-, mal- and nonfeasance of our self-proclaimed health gruppenfuehrers, and the disastrous results of the Covid mania, but I think it's also time to begin thinking about what might be possible as the existing medical industry reels under the impact of its own self-inflicted injuries. 

(Yes, the change in image theme reflects that; the earlier sequence served its purpose. With a nod to El Gato Malo (1, 2, 3), the posts to come will be headed by thoughtful memes relevant to the Covid mess. Yes, I'll take nominations -- you can post links in the thread.)

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting theory. Gods/demons as diseases have always creeped me out, but it’s entirely possible.

The bad news: Monkeypox is already spreading through the air, although it’s not nearly as contagious as, say Covid. You need exposure to more virus to get infected, so physical contact is most effective but sometimes aerosols do the job. Plenty of people, even children, outside of the gay community have gotten it. This is pretty well documented; the cat is out of the bag.

The good news: very few people are getting seriously ill from it. Monkeypox is way less lethal than smallpox. And orthopoxes don’t mutate that easily, so the odds are low it’ll become more lethal. Cross your fingers but we may have lucked out that smallpox’s ecological niche was taken by monkeypox.

(I’ve read that small pox was becoming less lethal in the 20th century before we eradicated it, so it may be the daemon of the disease is merely working towards a similar outcome...)

That said, I agree with everyone that the medical complex is collapsing. Far too few nurses, worked far too hard—that’s the last straw.

—Ms. Krieger

[(Anonymous)]

Remember when, after omicron caught on and overtook prior variants, people for a couple weeks were saying "huh! This is weird. There is no way this is a 'variant' of known lineages. This look more like a 'lab leak 2.0' incident"? There were variant charts all over the strange corners of the internet. It just didn't fit with any of the earlier variants. It was so drastically different the only thing that made sense was that it ALSO got out of the lab somehow. Let's hope there isn't another more dangerous monkeypox leak, now that everyone is looking at the laser pointer dot...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah… if those bio labs suddenly have a staffing issue… more leaks could definitely be possible.

[(Anonymous)]

a staffing issue or a direct order to leave a door open at 3am on a tuesday...

[(Anonymous)]

Yep that would work too

[(Anonymous)]

Or a bunch of overworked staff with brain fog....

[(Anonymous)]

Well, one other possibility is still for an accidental smallpox release, after these injections have weakened everyone's ability to respond, and further crippled the ability for public health authorities to command any kind of confidence from the public....

[escorcher]

The dark side of humanity discovering our little microbiotic universe and playing a little too hard?

Checks and balances. :-/

(I am reminded of a twisted War of The Worlds, where the aliens turn out to be 'fighty/greedy' humans. We all remember how they finally get stopped. A case of our own worst enemy?)

[(Anonymous)]

I had a thought earlier this week about smallpox and one train of thought led me down the path of, what if those nasty Russians happen to bomb/raid a bio weapons lab in Ukraine and unleash smallpox back into the world? It would tie the two crazy narratives together quite nicely…

[(Anonymous)]

Two years ago, I would not have thought anyone could be stupid enough to store smallpox in a warzone, and any in Ukraine would be removed as soon as the sabre rattling started. Now, I can't rule out the possibility that someone in the US is convinced that it makes sense to drop it on Russian troops as a weapon...

[(Anonymous)]

"The good news: very few people are getting seriously ill from it. Monkeypox is way less lethal than smallpox. And orthopoxes don’t mutate that easily, so the odds are low it’ll become more lethal. Cross your fingers but we may have lucked out that smallpox’s ecological niche was taken by monkeypox."

Orthopox viruses mutate slower than others, but where there's a massive selective pressure, that doesn't matter: viruses, even stable ones, can mutate quite rapidly when they change hosts. It won't be overnight, but I expect the fatality rate to rise quite rapidly in the months ahead.

[(Anonymous)]

I expect you are right, and that rise to center around...oh...January of next year ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Why January of next year?

[(Anonymous)]

That’s what the scenario plan calls for. A report of it came out 6 months before monkeypox was a word on peoples minds. It suggested the first cases would appear in may, as it did, and it would get super gnarly by the next January. After which point a quarter billion people would die.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you have a link to this?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I’ve posted it twice, so people might be sick of it though.

https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf

https://nypost.com/2022/05/28/monkeypox-simulation-in-2021-predicted-current-outbreak/

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. I missed these before, so I will take a look when I have time.

[(Anonymous)]

As a gay man, I’ve seen the reverberation around the gay community. Even tho monkey pox isn’t lethal, I have heard horror stories of people describing the worst pain of their lives, and permanent scarring of tissue that will unlikely ever fully heal.

A previous commenter stated that there is no messaging urging gay men to reduce their casual sexual encounters, stating that it is considered homophobic, and I would highly disagree. It is a regular and common conversation amongst my gay peers, as well as in sexual health clinics, and even messaging being posted in gay bars. I know most recent pride events have a MUCH lower attendance this year than in previous years, and conversations with other gay men are consistently discussing cancelled vacations and parties specifically because of monkeypox. (I myself have entered an exclusive relationship, partly with monkeypox in mind. I know others are adjusting their actions similarly). It is being taken seriously, tho of course there will be countless individuals who will flaunt the risks regardless.

But I do believe these days there are a lot more men who have sex with both men and women, and I have no doubt it will very soon be a more significant and pressing issue for the population at large.

Even if the virus isn’t yet manifesting as something very lethal, it still seems like a really horrific disease that can lead to long term tissue damage, and something I think everyone will want to avoid if possible. I don’t yet have any specific thoughts on the smallpox vaccine being used for it, but I know it is in incredibly short supply, and (for the time being) plan on getting vaccinated for it when it is available.

[(Anonymous)]

" Plenty of people, even children, outside of the gay community have gotten it. This is pretty well documented; the cat is out of the bag."

Well, strictly speaking, we can see the whiskers emerging. The cat won't be out of the bag unless and until the replication rate becomes high enough that it can sustain itself outside of the hyper-promiscuous portion of the gay community. Are we there yet? I don't think anyone can know yet, but unless drastic action is taken, we'll get there before too long.