Magic Monday
Dec. 19th, 2021 11:09 pm
It's getting on for midnight, so we can proceed with a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism and I'll do my best to answer it. Any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. (Please note: Any question received after then will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted. I've been getting an increasing number of people trying to post after these are closed, so will have to draw a harder line than before.) If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 143,916th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.0 of The Magic Monday FAQ here.The image? That's the second card in The Sacred Geometry Oracle, which is hot off the press and starting to reach buyers as I write this -- my copies arrived Friday. (Huzzah!). Card 2, The Point, when upright tells you that it's time to begin; when reversed, it cautions you that you've already committed yourself and have gone too far to back out. The oak leaves on the sides of the image tell you that this card belongs to the first third of the oracle, which corresponds to Calas, the principle of solidity and materiality.
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Symbel, Meditation, a Request
Date: 2021-12-20 05:02 am (UTC)1) This one is as much for the commentariat as JMG: In honor of the solstice, and because I got the idea for how to challenge myself from JMG, I would like to ask the help of any here willing in a virtual version of the heathen ritual of symbel. At important ritual occasions, heathens pass around a blessed drink (usually mead or ale), and as each person gets the horn, he or she makes a toast or a boast. "Boasts" can be of something accomplished, or of something intended for the coming year. Despite the modern connotation of the word, arrogance or excessive pride in boasts are poor form. They're meant to be a way to strengthen the individual's commitment to acting rightly by creating public accountability with Gods and Men for what you will do, and to get some public recognition in front of the same when you succeed. In my case, I'm planning to challenge myself to read only books written by dead people in 2022, with a handful of potential exceptions (if work somehow requires a book read, if I'm learning a skill I will immediately put to use, or if a family member or close friend writes something).
So, if you will, join me in a toast (with whatever beverage suits you), or else send good energy in whatever way you're comfortable with, to my following boast, I'd be much obliged (kindly forgive this early stumbling go at Germanic alliterative verse, I'm pretty new to this):
"Hail Woden, high king,
wide-faring God of Wisdom,
back me in this boast:
Only books by those unliving
will I read while this year turns,
unless needed by unbending work,
or teaching a craft taken on soon after,
or those called up by kith and kin.
Let all here who love learning,
and forbearers of free-thinking fond
witness my bold words
and wish well my work!"
A couple of questions on discursive meditation, but first, thanks very much for your suggestions from Way of the Golden Section to include a standard prayer at the start of each meditation and a spontaneous one at the end - I have found those have already added much to the practice. As for questions:
2) First: What led you to not include color breathing and/or the cleansing breath in the chapter on discursive meditation in The Way of the Golden Section?
3) Related: in the Dreamwidth posts on Discursive Meditation, you suggest a few cycles of Four-Fold Breath at the end of a meditation, but that instruction is not included in either the Druidry Handbook or The Way of the Golden Section. Any thoughts on the pros/cons of ending with some amount of the Four-Fold Breath besides "experiment and see what works for you"?
4) Not so much a question as a longer-term request for consideration: I read After Progress this week and found it very helpful, even if most of the ideas were familiar from the blog. It struck me that there were some complimentary ideas to World Full of Gods, but that you were soft-pedaling the spiritual/occult dimension to make a more palatable case for folks of a materialist bent. So, I, for one, would love to see a work of theology/occult philosophy from you that integrates your current thinking on religion, the theosphere, the subtle planes, and so forth, but "with the gloves off" (i.e. with as frank a discussion of the occult side of things as you're willing to include). So, with all of the spare time in your writing schedule, if you could just knock out that tiny little undertaking, I'm sure I'd not the only one that would be grateful :)
Thank you again for providing this forum and sharing your knowledge, it has been truly valuable.
Cheers,
Jeff
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Date: 2021-12-20 05:10 am (UTC)2) I vary the instructions I put into each book, in order to discourage fundamentalism. Some people find color breathing and the cleansing breath useful, others don't; both options are now out there, so that students can choose whether they want to do one, the other, both, or neither.
3) Experiment and see what works for you.
4) Hmm. I'll consider that at some point.
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Date: 2021-12-20 05:06 am (UTC)2) In your response to my tale of red-headed awesomeness in the Empire of Dreams post you replied “Dreamer, funny! There was a UFO book some decades ago titled Celtic Factor Red, if I recall correctly, which insisted that the Irish were descended from aliens or what have you. You could probably use it as raw material for your bestselling conspiracy theory book.” I tried to find any reference to it and the only thing I found was your post … I tried looking for the title and also searching for UFO Books and redheads etc – I found some interesting articles but nothing about a book – any suggestions?
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Date: 2021-12-20 05:15 am (UTC)2) I read about it in another UFO book a very long time ago -- no, I don't recall which book it was. I haven't been able to find a reference to it online either.
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Date: 2021-12-20 05:07 am (UTC)Since winter is upon us, perhaps you and the commentariat might advise us in the hinterlands about seasonal food gathering.
Who do Druids ask to bless hunts, hunters, arms, and – while we’re at it – arms makers?
Any pointers on how would be very welcome, too.
Many thanks!
Rhydlyd
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Date: 2021-12-20 05:09 am (UTC)Do you use electional astrology to decide or help in the planning of your works or enterprises ? What is your take on the subject.
Apart from Vivian Robson's book, do you know of any other authors or books that you could recommend.
Many thanks,
Sapienter Si Sincere
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2021-12-20 11:30 pm (UTC) - ExpandHealing the etheric body
Date: 2021-12-20 05:37 am (UTC)For several years my sister has suffered from severe vertigo. All the standard medical modalities have been tried, with very limited success. I am able to give her some relief by massaging certain carefully located points, but the benefit only lasts so long.
Is there any magical practice or operation that can help to heal a depleted, unbalanced or otherwise damaged etheric body? If so, I would like to do this for my sister, with her informed consent of course.
My background is in GD, working with Hellenic deities. I use Tarot for divination.
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Date: 2021-12-20 05:52 am (UTC)I understand the Abramelin operation requires a serious and sustained commitment, and that there is no guarantee of success even if you put in the full effort. Nonetheless, I’m rather excited. I can hardly wait to open the book.
Here’s wishing you a happy Solstice.
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Date: 2021-12-20 06:01 am (UTC)Figuring out the difference between external and purely personal phenomena
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Date: 2021-12-20 06:04 am (UTC)(I'm thinking of course about current divinations maybe helping postpone domestic hostilities)
Thanks,
Omer
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Date: 2021-12-20 06:11 am (UTC)Oracle card No 2
Date: 2021-12-20 06:17 am (UTC)Upright the crad reads "Beginning"
But upside down it reads: "commitmrent" I guess a missprint for "commitment"?
Regards
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Date: 2021-12-20 06:21 am (UTC)It occurred to me while reading the eddas, how parts of the cosmology there (the different groups like the Jotun, Vanir and Aesir) correspond to the general layout of Dion Fortune's cosmic doctrine. Jotun= Lords of Flame, Vanir= Lords of Form, Aesir= Lords of Mind.
1. Is this a potential correct hermaneutic? Normally Jotun are considered maleficent, but at least to my reading they're more of a mixed bag, sometime beneficient and other times antagonistic.
2. Did Fortune draw a significant amount of her work from pagan mythology? Or was she primarly getting her schema from the Christian pseudo dionysius tradition?
3. Unrelated matter, have you ever heard of the Japanese manga Bezerk? I just found out the author actually based his magic system on the Golden Dawn of all things. It really adds to the power of his drawings of the 4 archangels which appeared within its pages. That plus his mixing in of Nietzche/Jung seemed like something up your alley, as long you were ok with the quite admittedly dark/disturbing artwork at times.
4. Is it the solar sysyem as a whole that serves as the "physical body" of the solar logos? Or is it just the sun itself, as the name would imply?
Tamanous
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:22 pm (UTC)2) She had some knowledge of Pagan mythologies -- a little Classical, a little Norse, a little Celtic, about as much as most literate people in her time and place. Her schema, however, didn't come from those or from the pseudo-Dionysian tradition -- it came from Theosophy, with a hefty admixture of American Rosicrucianism.
3) No, I don't follow manga, but that's interesting to hear.
4) The body of the Logos is the sun, but his aura extends out to the heliopause, around 9.3 billion miles out from the sun (for comparison, Pluto is 3.6 billion miles from the sun). So we're not in his body, but we're in his aura.
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Date: 2021-12-20 06:25 am (UTC)What is the fundamental difference between magic and prayer? If magic is about causing change in one's consciousness, than I have had some magical experiences during prayer.
One time for example I was praying for a resolution of a personal conflict I had that will both be peaceful but also involve the other party recognizing my way of thinking has some merit. The next day, when I confronted the person I felt as if my entire attitude is different, as normally I do poorly in such situations. Eventually things turned out exactly as I hoped. What makes prayer in situations like this differ from magic?
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:24 pm (UTC)Card 2
Date: 2021-12-20 06:29 am (UTC)Upright Oracle card 2 is about beginnings,reversed it means "commitment" but not endings.
(1) Presumably when revered cards do not necessarily mean the opposite?
(2) Which card refer to endings then?
Thanks
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:28 pm (UTC)2) Card 32, Squaring the Circle. Upright it means you've succeeded; reversed it means what you're trying can't be done; either way, it's over.
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Date: 2021-12-20 06:34 am (UTC)It just shows...
Sacred Geometry
Date: 2021-12-20 06:43 am (UTC)(1) Sacred Geometry is nearly always about 2D shapes. Presumably it should make some sense to extend the philosophical aspects of it with 3D shapes. Has anyone written about it yet beyond the platonic solids?
(2)Has fractal geometry been in anyway incorporated into thinking on sacred geometry? It sounds challenging though!
Thanks.
Re: Sacred Geometry
Date: 2021-12-20 08:31 pm (UTC)Thus the answer to your question is "No, nobody's had the chance to get to it yet." Maybe that's something you can start working on...
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From:December Solstice
Date: 2021-12-20 07:03 am (UTC)In many nature based religions the solstices and equinoxes are important dates in the calendar. I am also thinking of the many alignments found in ancient monuments. It must have been painstaking to accurately track the heavens and build accordingly.
Beyond agricultural uses and timing of the seasons, why would ancient people spend so much time and effort in tracking the solstices, equinoxes and precessions with great precision?
Are there occult reasons for such endeavours? What were they seeking in doing all that?
In the meantime, allow me to wish a Happy Solstice or a Merry Xmas and/or a Happy New Year (as the case may be!) to our host and commentariat!
It's such a pleasure coming here (and on the ecosophia blog) for sane, polite, scholarly and intelligent discussions in an increasingly insane world.
Many regards and thanks to all!
Re: December Solstice
Date: 2021-12-20 08:37 pm (UTC)Many religions use those times, or times derived from them, for special ritual work. Consider Easter -- the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the spring equinox. Thus you've got the aftermath of the solar influx at the equinox and the early stages of a waning moon -- which is what you want, of course, if your religion works mostly with the solar current and follows an ascetic-Apollonian rather than an ecstatic-Dionysian path.
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Date: 2021-12-20 07:10 am (UTC)Re: Full moon
Date: 2021-12-20 08:39 pm (UTC)Possible Poltergeist
Date: 2021-12-20 07:34 am (UTC)Thank you for fielding our questions, and a very happy Winter Solstice to you and yours.
I've got a friend who has been dealing with what (from his descriptions) sounds like a poltergeist. It is some kind of negative entity, at least, that can move around physical objects in his house, as well as attack him in dreams and mess with his mind.
I would like to help him remove this poltergeist. Although I would not expect you to provide step-by-step instructions for how to effect this removal, nor the training required to do so, are there any resources you could point me to that might in some way facilitate the achievement of this end? Do you have any guidance you might share with a novice exorcist who would attempt to remove it? It would be my first poltergeist removal, if indeed I can remove it.
Thank you! Very best wishes to you. I appreciate all your insight and wisdom.
Kindly,
Winter Knight
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:49 pm (UTC)If he's doing a daily banishing ritual and he's not getting any results after several months, it's probably the kind of situation that calls for a skilled and experienced mage or exorcist, and my advice would be to look for one of those.
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:52 pm (UTC)2) Why should they? Deities know perfectly well that all that happens when somebody gets killed is that they shed the lowest and least useful of their bodies, and another one can be obtained promptly if needed. Death is not a big deal from the perspective of the higher planes: it's just one of those things that mortals have to go through until they evolve far enough to do without it.
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Date: 2021-12-20 07:57 am (UTC)For example, if I ask about whether to do a magical working, do I just look at the figure in the 8th house? Or should I also be checking for a mode of perfection?
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Date: 2021-12-20 07:59 am (UTC)Secondly, a few questions:
1) What is the proper way of disposing a bundle of hair grown over 7 years before being cut? A coworker related encountering difficulties from relatives on the topic of disposal after cutting his dreadlocks and presently has them in a bag.
2) Yesterday there was a close encounter of a physical nature between Comet Leonard and Venus. The last time there was a similar close encounter with a heavenly body was the impact of comet Shoemaker-Levy-9 with Jupiter. There is also a class of minor dim comets that routinely crash into the Sun, and on a slightly silly note, the 1910 comet and the earth, complete with anti-comet pills and other paraphernalia. Astrologically, what effects do these physically close encounters with the heavenly bodies have on the planets’ expression in charts, mundane or otherwise?
3) apropos for my father’s current medical status, planetary charity for Mercury is appropriate for general body healing, and the Moon for particular issues for healing any possible brain damage? Or instead of the Moon, should it be in accordance with the ruler of the astrological signs that rule the affected body parts (here Mars for the head and pelvis).
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:58 pm (UTC)1) Hair can be buried, so that the energies cycle back into the earth.
2) Until the invention of the telescope, nobody anywhere had ever seen a comet hit another celestial body. A conjunction, on the other hand, is like a malefic aspect -- comets are always malefic in astrology -- and so in the case of Comet Leonard, that conjunction would afflict Venus. The astrology of comets is very poorly known as yet, since astrology is an empirical science, it would be a matter of looking at the chart and seeing what happens as a result.
3) It's Mercury all the way. Don't overthink planetary attributions!
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:43 am (UTC)I had several divinations with populus as judge and identical witnesses. Sometimes three times after another in related questions. The last example was to the question: will I obtain together with friends a property to start an agriculture project? The witnesses were caput draconis. I see this as positive/favourable answer. But how should I read the neutral judge?
Thank you for your hints
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Date: 2021-12-20 08:48 am (UTC)If you journalled to a personfication of a relevant emotion would you get a understanding of the emotion generally or as it relates to you?
Are there any dangers in journalling to a "part" of yourself and if so how can they be mitigated?
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Date: 2021-12-20 10:41 pm (UTC)2) As long as you remember that the "part of yourself" is not a separate being but simply your way of getting into touch with aspects of your own self you might be neglecting, it's perfectly safe.
Language, Social Egregore, and Mental Clarity
Date: 2021-12-20 10:07 am (UTC)On Saturday, after one study session I felt a strong sense of chaos and stress that I knew wasn't mine. This language is beautiful and doesn't stress me out. But when I tried to study again, I'd tap into it and feel the stress and chaos myself, so I had to leave it the rest of the day.
I can't delay studying either...I put off this exam for my visa thinking I could wait out covid and not have to take a speaking test with a mask on, whoops.
To be clear, I support the will of the citizens, but I'm an immigrant on the sidelines just trying to keep my head straight. Is there anything I can do? Thank you.
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Date: 2021-12-20 10:07 am (UTC)Often during a full moon, I am restless and energetic, sometimes cranky, and sometimes I notice others in a bad mood as well. From an occult perspective, is there anything happening at the full moon?
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Date: 2021-12-20 10:45 pm (UTC)The etheric plane, the plane of life energy, is governed by lunar tides. When the Moon is full, the etheric tides are strongest, and that means your etheric body is stronger than usual; the passions belong to the etheric body, and it also connects you to other living beings, so if they're upset, you'll feel it. The new moon, by contrast, is the time of weakest etheric force, and so your etheric body is calmer and weaker, the passions less intense, and emotional telepathy less evident.
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