JMG on Coffee and Divination Podcast

[ecosophia]

For your listening pleasure -- or simply as a refuge from the flustered cluck still unfolding around the most dubious and inconclusive US election since the Hayes-Tilden race of 1876 -- here's my latest podcast appearance, on the Coffee & Divination Podcast with hostess JoAnna Farrer.  We discuss geomancy, the Coelbren oracle, and other topics of divinatory interest. You can listen to the conversation on Vimeo here and on Spotify here. Enjoy!

Comments

[fringewood]

Thanks for this😊

[ecosophia]

You're welcome!

[temporaryreality]

This was great to listen to - she's a good host and of course the topic and guest were right up my alley :).

The difference between authenticity and validity was quite relevant to my ongoing project. How nice that I don't have to worry about not having an unbroken lineage of diviners giving me secret texts and ancient symbols. I can just look at the basic historical connections because they're interesting, and then move on.

[ecosophia]

If you ever have the chance, pick up a copy of The Don Juan Papers by Richard de Mille. It's a series of essays on Carlos Castaneda's mystical fictions, and it's where I got the distinction between authenticity and validity -- de Mille does a very good job of teasing out the complexities involved.

[temporaryreality]

Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out for it.

[thuley]

Thank you!! I knew you'd be charming and brilliant as always, but I didn't expect to be so impressed by JoAnna's questions and commentary, I just subbed to her podcast.

I really hope you get a chance to return when the new SGO is available, I started with it at the beginning of the year, and it's become a personal trainer for my spiritual and magickal development, directing me to weak spots and congratulating me on my accomplishments, there's really nothing like it.

[ecosophia]

It's a really good podcast -- I enjoyed being on it. We've already made arrangements to do a show on the Sacred Geometry Oracle, which is moving toward publication at a good pace -- I just made corrections to the proofs of the book.

ends vs. means

[weirdtales]

There was something said recently - MM maybe - about reading geomancy questions by the ends and not the means, and that brings up a question for me, because I think, or I hope anyway, that some of my predictive failures might be chalked up to not understanding this concept.

If I personally am curious to know whether my wife is going to get Job X, which would advance her career and reputation, do I ignore the means - my spouse - and look at a simple 1-10 perfection or denial? Or would I turn it on 3rd party grounds and use the 7th as the house of the querent, and the 4th as the 10th house of career and reputation?

I had a perfect example of this question answered today when my chart got it wrong according to 3rd-party rules, but correct by the simpler ends-only perspective. The other job she's in the running for, for which I was reading a NO by 3rd party rules then turns into a YES when read by the ends-only method. So I'm inclined to lean toward the ends-only method for questions about other people that I'm asking for myself. (I guess if she gets the other job that would go a long way to verifying this idea.)

Or maybe I'm just one of those people you mentioned in the podcast who's no good with questions about money! Either way, I enjoyed it.

Grover

Re: ends vs. means

[ecosophia]

Interesting! That's how you learn how to do it, though -- study your failures as well as your successes, and figure out what made each.