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Tim VenturaAnd another podcast -- and for a change, it's on the other side of my work. This time I'm with futurist Tim Ventura, talking about catabolic collapse. It's a good crisp conversation, not least because Tim's got a solid business background -- that's his logo to the left -- and so understands that collapse is ultimately an economic process; we were able to get into some of the nuts and bolts of the process by which civilizations fall. Check it out here on YouTube. 
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fall of the american empireI was highly amused to see the following piece from Chris Hedges the other day, thanks to several readers who forwarded links:

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/08/15/chris-hedges-the-final-collapse/

My readers will find quite a bit of it very, very familiar. Hedges, a former New York Times correspondent, author of books, and on-and-off media darling, argues that modern industrial society is in decline and faces imminent collapse, following patterns that differ in scale but not in kind from the fates of past civilizations. He quotes Arnold Toynbee's A Study of History and Joseph Tainter's The Collapse of Complex Societies, and cites quite a range of facts and figures of a sort that I've discussed repeatedly here and on my blogs for the last sixteen years. 

That said, I have no idea whether Hedges got the idea for this essay from blog posts of mine. It may be that he simply noticed what's happening right in front of everyone, drew the logical conclusions, and did a little research to fill in the details. Nor am I in the least perturbed to find my ideas being echoed in so much more widely read a forum -- quite the contrary. 

That's the secret power of the fringe intellectual, after all. If you happen to live in a society in decline, as I do, and you want to talk freely about what's wrong and why the official solutions being hawked about by tame intellectuals won't work, all you have to do is find some venue for your ideas where you won't be censored. Keep at it, and so long as your ideas are at least marginally less stupid than those you're critiquing, they will begin to exert a weird gravitational attraction on the collective consciousness of your time. Eventually the official pundits will be mouthing your words without the least consciousness that they're doing so. Entertaining? You bet; certainly I'm entertained...
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DodcastAnother day, another podcast! This time I'm on The Dodcast with host Luke Dodson, and our theme is the decline and fall of Faustian civilization. It was a good lively conversation covering a lot of ground. Check it out here




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Ouros logoIt's been a busy few weeks for podcasts, and here's another one. I'm on the Ouros Podcast with host Isaac, talking about spirituality and the decline and fall of industrial civilization. Ouros is the new kid on the block when it comes to collapsitarian podcasts -- I was on the eighth show ever -- but it's shaping up to be an interesting venue, exploring the decline and fall of industrial civilization from a conservative standpoint.. You can listen to the conversation here, and check out the host's Substack essays here


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the coast is toastTwo data points reached me today, both from the somewhat rarefied world of the occult book trade.  Both of them, however, are storm petrels flying ahead of a hurricane I've been expecting for some time. 

Data point #1 came via Reddit -- there are several occult-themed subreddits where I lurk fairly regularly, as a way of keeping tabs on what's happening out there in the occult scene. A poster there announced, with a certain amount of shock, that Fields Books has just moved from the San Francisco Bay area to Wisconsin. 

You have to have known your way around the Bay area occult scene before 2013 to understand just how seismic this is. Fields Books was literally the best occult bookstore on the west coast, and one of the best in the US. For most of a century its storefront at 1419 Polk Street in San Francisco was the go-to place for serious occult literature. In 2013 skyrocketing rents forced them to close the store, and Fields became an online presence only, but remained in the Bay area.  Now it's bailed out of California altogether and is settling into comfortable new quarters on the shores of Lake Michigan. 

Data point #2 came via an email from Miskatonic Books, the publisher and fine bookseller that's brought out the first volume of my book The Dolmen Arch and is on schedule to bring out the second volume next month.  Since its founding it's been located in Oregon, not far from Portland. That's not where the new volume will be released, though. Miskatonic Books is moving to Montana; it'll be based out of Bozeman for the near future while the proprietor and his family find permanent digs. 

I've been expecting for some time to hear that people on the cutting edge of creativity -- not the self-proclaimed "cultural creatives" of the privileged classes, mind you, but the people who are actually doing new and interesting things -- were abandoning the overpriced, dilapidated urban sores that used to be pleasant and inexpensive cities along the west coast. Now it's happening. I don't happen to know the reasons why the proprietors of Fields and Miskatonic uprooted themselves and their businesses and fled to greener pastures, but I think I can guess at least part of the logic behind the move -- and there will be plenty of other businesses making the same decision now, and in the near future. 

Half a century or so from now the cities of the west coast will offer the same kind of opportunities for urban homesteaders that a lot of Rust Belt cities offer now. Until then, though, they'll feature skyrocketing taxes, skyrocketing crime, collapsing infrastructure, total dysfunction on the part of local and state governments -- all the things those of us who lived through the 1970s recall hearing from Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, and other rust belt cities on their way down. Those who don't fancy these things might want to consider getting out while they can still extract some of the paper value of any real estate they happen to be stuck with. 
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the endI was delighted yesterday to learn from a reader that CounterPunch, one of the leading periodicals of the radical Left in the US, took the time out of its busy schedule to post a fine tirade by one Craig Collins insisting that modern industrial civilization won't decline -- it will collapse. What's more, it did me the courtesy of citing me as one of the leading figures among those wrongheaded people who suggest that our civilization will end the way every other civilization in human history has ended. 

Yes, I found this delightful, for two reasons. First -- well, do you recall Gandhi's famous quote? "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." For many years now the radical Left has treated the ongoing decline of industrial civilization as a temporary irrelevance, just another set of proofs that late capitalism was about to fall over dead to be replaced by some imaginary socialist paradise or other. More recently, a certain amount of shrill mockery has come from the radical Left when the reality of decline gets pointed out -- the phrase "declinism" got a certain amount of use in that context. Now, though, they're fighting; the next stage will follow in due time. 

You might be surprised, dear reader, that an article in a publication such as CounterPunch would insist on sudden collapse rather than, say, rallying yet again around the shopworn fantasy of proletarian revolution or what have you. You might be surprised, for that matter, that Collins proceeded to trot out the same talking points that apocalyptic fantasists have been using to insist on the imminence of sudden collapse since long before I started writing about the ongoing decline we're in. (Those of my readers who've been around since the days of The Archdruid Report already know all of Collins' four arguments well enough to repeat them in your sleep.) Still, that's to be expected at this point in the historical cycle. 

The reason why Collins and so many other people insist that we have to collapse -- we can't possibly decline like every other civilization in human history -- is that the ongoing reality of decline challenges the core act of faith at the heart of the modern mythology of progress: the belief that our civilization is unique and thus can ignore the lessons of history. (All four of Collins' arguments predictably boil down to exactly this:  "But we're special!")  A sudden cataclysmic collapse leaves the fantasy of progress intact; in a sick way, it can even feed into that fantasy -- "Look at us, we've progressed so far and so fast that we can even destroy ourselves!"  The process of decline that's going on all around us right now, by contrast, drives a stake through the heart of the fantasy and shows that despite our toys, we're following a historical arc that was old when bronze was the latest thing in high tech. 

There's another factor at work here, though. Follow the trajectory of apocalyptic fantasies through the history of ideas and you'll find that down through the centuries, in the Western world, belief in apocalypse is an admission of defeat. Social movements that are on the upside of their arc convince themselves that the world will improve, especially once they take control of as much of it as they can; it's when those hopes are blighted and the arc slopes downward that daydreams of imminent doom exert a potent emotional attraction. It's not quite true to say that it's all over for the American radical Left but the shouting, but it's heading in that direction -- and those of my readers who've watched the way that so many supposed liberals have rallied around the senile gerontocracy in DC in recent years, ditching their ideals right and left in order to concentrate on hating a populist movement that's actually improving the condition of working class Americans...well, let's just say that this latest bit is definitely writing on the wall. 

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Me talking with the irrepressible Greg Moffitt about what comes after the accelerating decline and impending fall of industrial civilization. Cheery stuff, granted, but livened up with dollops of deindustrial science fiction, among other things. Check it out:

http://legalise-freedom.com/radio/john-michael-greer-beyond-collapse-the-future-of-civilization/

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