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safe enoughWe are now into the fifth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary all these years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health remain anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; new revelations are leaking out about just how bad the Covid vaccines are for human health; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

7. Please don't post LLM ("AI") generated text. This is a place for human beings to talk to other human beings, not for the regurgitation of machine-generated text. Also, please don't discuss large language models (the technology popularly and inaccurately called "artificial intelligence" these days) except as they bear directly on the Covid phenomenon. Here again, my finger is hovering over the delete button. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 
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Date: 2025-11-04 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
BREAKING: Andrew Cuomo APOLOGIZES for overseeing the deaths in nursing homes during COVID, pleads for Republicans' vote for mayor

"I APOLOGIZE for any family that lost a loved one. It was ON MY WATCH. I understand how terrible it was."

https://xcancel.com/EricLDaugh/status/1985707711569318147#m

clip at link

imagine that..
is this the first time he has said anything about it?

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Date: 2025-11-04 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Election Day here in NYC. Something about the warm November day feels strange and this fits right in with that vibe. Maybe this is his Hail Mary to garner votes, but a public apology of any kind is long overdue. I’ll take it for now but the context is suspicious. Unintended consequences came to mind on where this first apology might lead, law suits or to borrow a term from C&C, a reckoning. As far as this rare NYC Republican goes, I already voted for Curtis.

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Date: 2025-11-04 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

ChatGPT can no longer give health, legal advice

Services provided by OpenAI are not used for "provision of tailored advice that requires a license, such as legal or medical advice, without appropriate involvement by a licensed professional."

https://thepostmillennial.com/chatgpt-can-no-longer-give-health-legal-advice

well i wouldnt trust anything it says in the first place but, i guess ppl just arent trusting dr's anymore.. so im not surprised they have been asking AI..

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Date: 2025-11-04 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] angelica5804
Interesting. A friend of mine just used Chat GPT to decide whether or not to use DMSO for joint pain. He sent me the full report he received which actually affirmed using DMSO.

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Date: 2025-11-04 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Tylenol maker sells to Kimberly Clark for $48B weeks after Trump and RFK Jr targeted drug

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/tylenol-maker-sells-kimberly-clark-140704282.html

well this is interesting..

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Date: 2025-11-04 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
from Dr McCullough:

New Study Finds Cognitive Impairment Is Skyrocketing Across America

Mass Neurotoxic mRNA Uptake + Widespread Artificial Intelligence Dependence = A Generation Losing Its Ability to Think? However rates have steadily gone up from 2016 before the pandemic and use of AI. [profile] nichulscher [profile] mcculloughfund thefocalpoints.com/p/new-stu…

https://xcancel.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1985667567109775360#m

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-finds-cognitive-impairment

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Date: 2025-11-05 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
2016 a lot of people got wrapped in the pro-Trump mania and anti-Trump hysteria and stopped thinking for themselves. No wonder why you have an entire generation losing its ability to think.

BCG vaccine

Date: 2025-11-04 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Re vaccines, maybe there is a good one, finally, the BCG vaccine, which isn't given in America of course.

"Gavin de Becker on Tetanus, Polio & Vaccine Truths: What Parents Need to Know

Gavin de Becker challenges the mainstream vaccine narrative with hard facts: Tetanus is nearly eradicated in the U.S.— only 13 deaths in 10 years, all elderly, and it's not contagious. Yet children get multiple tetanus shots despite near-zero risk. Globally, tetanus is a threat only in limited regions like Central Africa. Polio? Zero deaths worldwide last year, with 94% of cases actually caused by the vaccine itself. Meanwhile, tuberculosis, a top infectious killer globally, lacks a U.S. vaccine despite effective options like the century-old BCG vaccine, which also offers other health benefits.

De Becker urges parents to ask: Are vaccines safe? Do they work? Is the disease truly dangerous? The reality is many childhood diseases carry near-100% survival rates, making the risk-benefit balance of vaccines more complex than often presented. This calls for transparent, fearless assessment of vaccines based on real-world data, not fear or profit motives. Informed choices are every parent's right."

https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1985798702322086125

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Date: 2025-11-05 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My understanding is that the BCG has known and publicised high rates of negative side effects-including unsightly scaring-and does not reach the usually expected effecacy either, which is why it is only used in areas where TB exposure is very high. (My husband has a BCG scar and tests positive for TB, but x-ray is negative. My information level is therefore that of an annoyed spouse.)

As to tetanus, it is not a person to person transmitted disease, but is introduced via dirty wounds, which is why there are so few cases. It's endemic in the soil here I am told, your area may be different. Those of us prone to tangling with rusty nails in our feet or barbed wire in our shoulders are keeping up to date on that vaccine, and if you go to the doc post injury they give you a shot right then and there. I don't think I've ever been offered a regular booster because I've always gotten one because of an injury before the normal due date.

Whether or not I'll continue that . . . I should look into if there's an antibody test.

BoysMom

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Date: 2025-11-05 05:57 pm (UTC)
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thankyou to all of you who replied to my concerns about using dsmo.
i appreciate it!

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Date: 2025-11-05 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] angelica5804
Robert Malone published a piece on his substack referencing a talk Kevin McKernan recently gave that is an overview of the evidence for DNA contamination as a result of the jab including contamination of the blood supply.

Here's the link to the slide deck: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/61910a2d98732d54b73ef8fc/t/6908f8992bbead6c0b76fca8/1762195609416/McKernan+PDF+slides.pdf

Here's the summary at the end:
Summary
• The Pfizer vaccines on the market are not the same formulation as what was tested in clinical trials! Bait and Switch. Fraud!
• Significant DNA contamination has been found in 10/11 studies
• Significant DNA contamination is now found in 5 peer reviewed studies looking at people’s blood and tissue.
• Cancer is on the rise!
• Several papers report cancer post vaccination.
• Wrong E.coli cell line used for Manufacturing
• Liability free mandates of the largest carcinogen to ever hit the population.
• We need to modernize Peer Review

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Date: 2025-11-05 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just wait until they move on from the covid vaccines and start investigating all the childhood vaccines.

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Date: 2025-11-06 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
Quick disclaimer - I stopped watching Dr Campbell 'explainer' videos about less than a year into the coof era, as I could see that he was seeing the same studies I was reading - where it's detailing all the jab issues, and he couldn't make the mental leap that there's something seriously wrong going on as the authorities kept pushing the shots. I understood that he had too much of belief system to overcome and will need much more time to really understand what was happening. To his credit, he eventually started to realize how corrupt and wrong the system had been, but his father had already passed without him being able to be at his side (hey, social distancing!) and all that.

Anyways, somehow a YT video of his popped up on my feed recently, and I guessed that he had gotten the coof again. I watched a min or two of it to confirm and moved on. Then another video popped up a couple days later, and somehow I got twigged to watch again and he actually mentioned that the coof was mild for him as he had actually taken indian-sourced VIM - he actually showed the box and tablets in his video. That is quite a big change in the overton window...

The tidbit that intrigued me was that he also mentioned that he had taken VIM before... for 11 weeks, and he had a slight smile on his face. I knew immediately, he had taken it to cure prostate cancer. No side effects, let it do its magic - but he couldn't come right out to say what he had used it for. The overton window hadn't moved that far yet.

This ties back to last week's segue on Scott Adam's plea to Trump to get him on some hot new cancer therapy for his prostate cancer. Personally I would not engage with someone like Scott Adam... everything he has said and done from the get go just screams of a huge ego that can never admit to making a mistake, and would rather hurt everyone else in the process. I thought Dr Makis was rather naive in trying to help him, as he would never have been a sincere patient, and quickly showed his true colours and went out of his way to slam VIM and alternative treatment protocols. Dr Makis was a certified oncologist pre-coof, and obviously craves mainstream acceptance of him using VIM and Fenben to help cancer patients. He was probably thinking that curing S Adam would give him yet another notch on the celebrity cured list.... without understanding the obvious trap he was walking into. The fact that the Alberta authorities have kept going after him... and also created fake online accounts of him to phish for more info on the folks contacting him etc, he should have known to tread lighter. Folks on here would know of Wilhelm Reich and how he died in prison coz he codified the orgone generator... you imperil a major gravy train, they come after you in assorted ways.

AS for the new therapy that S Adams hankered for.... well, it costs $250K, to maybe extend his life for 4 months. Vs likely being cured altogether if he had stuck with VIM for a couple months at a cost of $250. People choose the path that they're on...

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Date: 2025-11-08 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You can’t cure a suicidal man. Admitting he was wrong about the vax was already too much for him. His last act of vengeance is his own self destruction.

KVD

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Date: 2025-11-06 11:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lunchboxbike
Something to watch for is family caretakers facing charges of elder abuse, neglect, or domestic violence as they became overwhelmed with the work. I saw a mugshot of someone I knew years ago and realized there will be more of that.

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Date: 2025-11-09 03:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
lunchboxbike, yes, good point.

I would also point to animal abandonment and abuse likely increasing as well.

That said, actual charges depend on someone with a salary and benefits doing their job— investigating, doing the paperwork. I expect to see a lot of bureaucracies, especially in the big blue cities and blue counties, basically crumble into a morass of corruption, slackdom, and sheer ineptitude. Which is already the case in many places.

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Date: 2025-11-06 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Three Chinese scholars from Univ of Michigan lab charged in smuggling biological materials into US

“Allegedly attempting to smuggle biological materials under the guise of ‘research’ is a serious crime that threatens America’s national and agricultural security,” Attorney General Pamela Bondi said

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/3-chinese-scholars-university-michigan-lab-charged-smuggling-biological

probably happening all the time, too.

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Date: 2025-11-06 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Health Canada seizes ivermectin from B.C. woman claiming drug heals cancer

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/health-canada-seizes-ivermectin-from-bc-woman-claiming-drug-heals-cancer/

this really makes me angry.

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Date: 2025-11-06 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ostriches at BC farm to be killed after last-ditch Supreme Court appeal fails

https://www.kamloopsbcnow.com/watercooler/news/news/Provincial/BC_ostrich_farm_to_learn_fate_of_birds_today_as_Supreme_Court_releases_decision/

an update about the ostriches..
this makes me angry, too..

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Date: 2025-11-06 10:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scotlyn
Given that the purported avian flu outbreak occurred 10 months ago, and is long over by now, and presumably all survivors immune, the planned culling now looks like it is purely motivated by vengeance.

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Not a comment on Covid, but one on big Pharma -- Novo Nordisk Executive Gordon Findlay collapsed behind President Donald Trump during an Oval Office press conference today, 11/6/2025. Trump was announcing lower prices on weight loss drugs (that are extremely hazardous to the user's health in my opinion and should be outlawed, not put on sale). It seems like the gods are smiling on us. I don't wish any bad outcome on Mr. Findlay, but his fainting stopped Trump from giving Pharma a free commercial for their killer weight loss drugs. They immediately shut down the press conference. If only a few of them could have keeled over on camera during Covid.... oh right, they suppressed all those "died suddenly" instances.

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Date: 2025-11-06 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
this is a little bizarre..

Pharma executive passes out in Oval Office while standing behind Trump for drug price announcement

Pharmaceutical representative was part of a ‘major announcement’ to make GLP-1s more affordable

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-oval-office-glp1-collapse-b2860200.html

seems sort of fitting though..
how is making weight loss drugs MAHA at all..?

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Date: 2025-11-06 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
RFK Jr. Calls For Global Ban On Mercury In Vaccines

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/rfk-jr-calls-global-ban-mercury-vaccines

this is good, but from what i am reading ppl are wanting the vax gone altogether..

Andrew Wakefield vindicated

Date: 2025-11-07 12:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
New report from the McCullough Foundation: "Determinants of Autism Spectrum Disorder"
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/dr-andy-wakefield-vindicated-the

full study can be viewed and downloaded here:
https://zenodo.org/records/17451259

quote from the abstract conclusion:
" Combination and early-timed routine childhood vaccination constitutes the most significant modifiable risk factor for ASD, supported by convergent mechanistic, clinical, and epidemiologic findings, and characterized by intensified use, the clustering of multiple doses during critical neurodevelopmental windows, and the lack of research on the cumulative safety of the full pediatric schedule. "

Thank you

Date: 2025-11-07 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Week 220

Dear JMG and dear forumistas, my thanks as ever for making this forum possible.

One of the most important historians of this fiasco, Paula Jardine, has just given an interview to the Geopolitics & Empire podcast.
https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.com/p/paula-jardine-the-biodefense-mafia
Her bio:
"Paula Jardine is a writer/researcher who has just completed the graduate diploma in law at ULaw. She has a history degree from the University of Toronto and a journalism degree from the University of King’s College in Halifax, Nova Scotia."

Jardine got onto my radar a couple of years ago when she gave a long and detailed interview to Professor Norman Fenton, which I can also warmly recommend. (Before his professional ruin as a result of speaking out about covid, Prof Fenton was one of the world's leading statisticians.) But if you're interested in taking the time to listen, I'd recommend going with the more recent interview with Jardine linked to above.

It's powerfully informative— I'll leave it at that.

This week I've had news of some awful illnesses in my circles. And a concert this weekend canceled; got a refund. Many people I know are still taking covid boosters. So the madness continues.

Glad to see that lawyer Aaron Siri is doing a tour for his book, VACCINES AMEN. One of these days I might get my copy autographed.

Cetiosaurus


SV40 - the reason for turbo cancers?

Date: 2025-11-08 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dr. Suzanne Humphries takes us full circle from Gain Of Function experiments using SV40 in polio vaccine vials in the 1950's, to how we "end up with SV40 [sequences] in the plasmid of our [Pfizer mRNA] vaccines in 2021".

SV40 was "called the perfect war machine by one of the world's experts".

Dr. Suzanne Humphries: "I happen to know that there was a situation in the 1960s, where simian virus 40, SV40, a cancer promoting virus, called 'the perfect war machine' by one of the world's experts, that this virus was taken from the polio vaccine, because that's where the scientist had to get it from, because humanity was being injected with it alongside a lot of other things."

"They literally took this virus, and they irradiated it in a gain of function experiment, to make it more carcinogenic, and then they would put it in animals take those tumors, put the tumors in a blender, take them to the lab irradiate it with a linear particle accelerator to make it more aggressive, and they would keep going in a circle until they got the maximum killing capacity out of this virus"

"This was gain of function stuff going on in the 1960s, under the guise of killing Fidel Castro [and] the technology supposedly disappeared, and then boom, we end up with SV40 in the plasmid in our vaccines in 2021"

https://x.com/Humanspective/status/1986650008847011861

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Date: 2025-11-08 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That sounds exactly like black magic, and probably explains the light going out in people’s eyes after they take the shot.

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Date: 2025-11-09 12:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dr. Dave Weldon at Children’s Health Defense 2025 Conference on the Health Bureaucracy – “These Agencies Will Ignore the Congress. They Frequently do on a Regular Basis”

from article:

Dr. Weldon explained that he was being considered for the position as director of the CDC, but he believed that pharma interests put pressure on some Republican Senators to vote against him.

“Bobby Kennedy asked President Trump to appoint me to be director of the CDC, and my nomination was pulled because of opposition of a few Republicans in the Senate, who I believe were under a lot of pressure from pharma,” Weldon continued.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/dr-dave-weldon-childrens-health-defense-2025-conference/

all the best ppl were/are being fired, or had their nominations pulled..
i dont know what that is going to leave us with..

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Date: 2025-11-09 01:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
from texas AG Ken Paxton:

BREAKING: I just beat Tylenol in court.

Tylenol tried to avoid accountability by getting my lawsuit against it moved to a different court, but a judged just REJECTED Tylenol's desperate attempt and remanded the case back to a Texas court.

Justice is coming for Big Pharma.

https://xcancel.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/1987289767881408957#m

Animal sacrifice

Date: 2025-11-09 05:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Seeing the news of the ostrich slaughter today it occurred to me that industrial societies, in particular health and associated sciences, are practicing ritual animal sacrifice on a grand scale.

Publicly this is even stated, towards a god otherwise named Pestilence. And there are also countless private sacrifices to a godd(ess?) of Vanity.

Re: Animal sacrifice

Date: 2025-11-10 06:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, and I find it mighty strange.

I am one of the people who, back in 2020 and especially in 2021-22, got marooned among those who fell into the cooties fear trance. I know very, very few people who refused to comply. In my own family that would be one, count 'em, one other person.

Today I met with a small group of unvaxxed people, plus a few who took the vaxx and repented. One of the unvaxxed asked me directly, so you didn't take the vax? I usually lie and say I took it because if I don't I get a lot of grief— anyway, it's none of anyone else's GD business. But to this one I told the truth.

Then we had the conversation about everyone we knew having fallen into some weird trance. And having lost so many friends, colleagues, family.

I know I'm not saying anything new.

Still, this conversation, and just the vibe there, been haunting me for hours now. The vibe was normal. I haven't been around normal in years now.

It sounds so strange to say I think most people are in a years' long trance about this stuff. But... they actually are.

What do I mean by normal vibe? I don't know to express it exactly. It seemed to me that their souls were more fully in their bodies.

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I don't know why, but twitter has been feeding me a lot of posts from middle-aged folks posting about losing their young adult kids in the past few days. I don't even know the huge majority of those posters, not following them, and I purposely don't click on the links to expand the full details as I don't have that morbid fascination.

Then I got this from the UWAthletics department: https://x.com/UWAthletics/status/1986661869072097543
We are heartbroken by the passing of Mia Hamant after her courageous battle with cancer. Mia inspired everyone around her with her strength and spirit. Our love is with her family, teammates, and all who knew her. Her legacy will forever live in Husky Athletics

More complete details: https://people.com/mia-hamant-dead-university-of-washington-goalie-11846342
Diagnosed with kidney cancer in April, after just having a career year in her sport in 2024... did many rounds of chemo, even got profiled in a YT cancer patient story before passing suddenly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VrH6gjyiCE

What bothers me is that we already had the LA Times owner/doctor Patrick Soon-Shiong going on some major alt-platforms and reporting that he is seeing 8, 9 and 10 year olds with colorectal cancer. Since bad news is supposed to sell, how come MSM is not digging or reporting into that?

Kidney cancer... what the heck, shouldn't that be an affliction of elderly folks? Yup, should be 65-74 age-group. Our kidneys also have some regenerative properties, not as much as our liver, but fit young folks should not be dying of kidney cancer at 21. I went to look at the comments, especially on the youtube video... and it's the usual platitudes - with no one raising the awkward question of why someone so young got afflicted with something like that.

I had to sit and reflect for a while ..... for context, I do sense the waves of suffering around me, with its ebbs and flows. We also seem to have come to the point where we've 'split' into 2 worlds, where unfortunately the majority have chosen to continue sleepwalking into the abyss, following all the old norms and patterns, without paying any attention to all the big red flags that too many things are not kosher. The lady just had her 'best' year ever and it's been a quick steady decline since then. It reinforces my gut feel that it's a ticking time bomb taking out different chunks of the population, ever on-going, and people still averting their eyes.



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Date: 2025-11-09 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Arizona recommends measles vaccine during outbreak

Nicole Witt, Arizona’s assistant director for public health preparedness, said 107 of the 111 cases are associated with the current outbreak in Mohave County, which is connected to the Utah outbreak.

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/arizona-recommends-measles-vaccine-during-outbreak

we never had a vax for measles when i was a kid
we just had them, and got over them and that was that.
the whole thing is crazy.

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Date: 2025-11-10 08:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My home city has had a small measles outbreak in one of the local schools. The local media now features headlines like 'Measles in New Zealand: What you need to know about the deadly virus'.

The 'Karens' in my workplace have reacted with barely-disguised glee, buttonholing people in the corridor to tell you how awful it is, why everyone needs to get vaccinated, why kids should be excluded from school if they are not vaxxed, etc. I am back to avoiding these people and biting my tongue if caught so that I can quietly get on with my work.

It feels like nothing has changed since the coof 'pandemic'.

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Date: 2025-11-09 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
may i ask another question about dsmo?

i have the gel.. and i was wondering for the ppl who replied before, how do you clean the skin to put it on?
because if it carries residue of anything that wouldnt be good, right? and soap would have residue of some sort wouldnt it?

also what happens if you happen to be a smoker, would that mean you shouldnt use it because of residue as well?
thanks for any replies because i do want to try it, i have read much about it but they just dont seem to tell you these type of specific things. at least from what i have read.

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Date: 2025-11-09 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My two cents:
I use castile soap without fragrances etc and rinse my hands well in filtered water. I have never had an issue and I have used it a lot on my skin for various things.

The concern for smokers is another issue altogether. A commenter on one of A Midwestern Doctor's early articles on DMSO reported that a smoker almost died after immersing his hands in DMSO. Here's the comment:

"My Dad told us of an adverse event related to DMSO use during his working career: lab technicians liberally used DMSO’s excellent solvent characteristics to clean glassware. One technician was a heavy smoker and immersed a hand in DMSO. Almost immediately he had a severe reaction and was rushed to the hospital where he almost died. He was found to have severe nicotine poisoning … the DMSO transmitted the nicotine stains from his fingers directly into his bloodstream."

Now nowhere have I seen it recommended that anyone immerse their hands in DMSO. This strikes me as the hubris of chemists, something which I am familiar from my days working in labs. The things we used to think were no big deal....

Here's a link to AMD's article on the safety of DMSO: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-remarkable-history-and-safety

AMD recommends the use of natural bristle paint brushes to mitigate these risks.

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Date: 2025-11-11 01:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
well thankyou all for replying..

now im more concerned to try it than ever since i smoke.
well, maybe i will just have to pass on it then.
really unfortunate; i was hoping it would help a few things for me.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-11-11 11:04 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The risk described earlier related to using DMSO with bare, smoke-stained hands. Use a natural bristle brush on clean skin and you're at no more risk than anyone else.

In fact, a few months back, Midwestern Doc wrote a very interesting price about restoring lung function in severe COPD with nebulized DMSO/water.
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