Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 208

[ecosophia]

We are now into the fifth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary all these years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health remain anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; new revelations are leaking out about just how bad the Covid vaccines are for human health; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules have been slightly expanded due to a recent discussion here:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

7. Please don't post LLM ("AI") generated text. This is a place for human beings to talk to other human beings, not for the regurgitation of machine-generated text. Also, please don't discuss large language models (the technology popularly and inaccurately called "artificial intelligence" these days) except as they bear directly on the Covid phenomenon. Here again, my finger is hovering over the delete button. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure if down in 'Murica voice was given that after the 'Cooties lockdown' there will be 'climate lockdowns' but in Canuckistan this has been a major 'conspiracy theory' ever since the Cooties lockdown came to a close. And, like so many other 'conspiracy theories', this has been proven to be prescient.

Enter the Climate Lockdowns.

Late last week the Premier (equivalent to a state Governor) of Nova Scotia declared that due to the summer drought and the high risk of forest fires, nobody is allowed to go 'into the woods' for any purpose whatsoever. No camping. No fishing. No hiking. Nothing. And not just on government (up here it is called 'Crown') lands; no, this decree applies to public property. So if your farm has a 'back 40' of forested land, you can't enter it. And if one is so foolish as to disobey the decree it will set you back a cool $25,000! Shortly afterwards, the premiers of two other Atlantic provinces (New Brunswick and Newfoundland) made similar bans. Newfoundland even upped the ante: miscreants can be fined up to $150k and/or spend a year in jail. Oddly enough, the punishment for arson in Canada (which is the cause of the vast majority of forest fires in Atlantic Canada) is very light...

Well, this has not been greeted with much cheer by hapless Nova Scotians. And so The Great Pushback began almost immediately. On August 8, Afghanistan War Veteran Jeff Evely of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, posted a video mocking the arbitrariness of the taped off woodland paths in his area; by Canadian standards (700k views as of the weekend) it went viral. Then the next day (August 9) he went to his local provincial Natural Resources office to state that he was going to go walking in the woods behind the office and if they would be so kind as to issue him a ticket he would be much obliged. They took up Jeff's offer and slapped a $28,872.50 fine on him for taking 13 steps into some thick bushes. This was all video recorded by Jeff, so he now has good solid evidence for his inevitable court hearing (his summons date is September 12). It was a text-book civil disobedience act which would have earned 'two thumbs up' from Mahatma Gandhi! Constitutional and civil rights lawyers across the country are practically killing each other in the hope of taking Jeff on as a client!

For those who 'do' video, one can watch the whole scene here, from 11:30 to 18:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkRUP65W_JQ. The whole 24-minute video, in my opinion, is worth watching.

Since then, more than 100 persons in Nova Scotia have been fined for walking in the woods.

Now there is a 'Cooties connection' to all this. Jeff Evely was very much present at the Freedom Convoy, including taking down the barricade around Ottawa's Cenotaph and Tomb of the Unknown Soldier as well as being part of the front line of military veterans who willfully accepted the assault of the militarized police on that fateful day of February 19, 2022. In the above linked video, Jeff explains the link: he said that during military training, all trainees had to swear an oath to disobey any order that they considered to be illegal or unjust. And he has taken that vow into his civilian life.

And just a footnote on the decree given by the witless premier of the neighbouring province of New Brunswick: when asked about the the dangers that walking and fishing pose to forest fires, she admitted that this was not the rationale. Rather, it is because emergency responders are so busy that if a person breaks their leg walking on a trail or a fishing boat capsizes in a pond, they will not be available to help. Ah - so, it is all for our safety! Funny how draconian decrees are always made for the sake of 'public safety', eh?

Honk honk!

Ron M

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

Ron, thank you for another wonderful Canada update. Though I am Canadian I completely missed this story. Who knew, in 2025 it would be illegal to go walking in the woods?

I will keep my ears open for rumours of this kind of legislation coming to Ontario. Knowing, now, that the rumours are credible.

Dylan

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

Canada is not a country, because its inhabitants have no common value. The government will redirect the anger of the population towards "nasty Trump across the border", but I doubt that strategy will work for too long.

So, the sooner the place breaks down into pieces, the better. If the process is delayed, the breakdown will go through a civil war IMHO.

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[frittermywig]

The ban on land access reminds me of this 2021 book (discussed here at the time): The Devouring Mother. Just like during Covid, here comes your government: "It's for your own good," "This hurts me more than it hurts you," "In time you'll thank me for this." It's sick and demented and I can't believe people still won't wake up. Thanks for amplifying the good work of Jeff Evely, Ron.

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[erikalopez]

wow... so this is real. a friend just told me and i thought, "naaaah.... REALLY?"
this is CRAZY.

thanks, Ron. i love your updates.

erika

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

One of the major red flags around covid was the propaganda onslaught that the media carried out against the ideals of individual freedom, where they argued that individual rights were "selfish" and that it should be left up to a higher authority to decide what freedoms people were allowed to have.

The media is again pushing similar arguments, saying that "public health" should override individual freedom:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-nova-scotia-wood-forest-ban-wildfire/

This line of argument deliberately confuses natural human freedoms with being able to do absolutely anything you want to with no regard for the rest of society.

The freedoms that were taken from people during covid were exactly those that enable someone to be a functional part of society: freedom of movement, freedom of association, freedom to socialise, freedom to work, freedom to participate in the economy, freedom of speech etc. These are all natural human freedoms that are the basis of any sane society. It shows how insane the covid "response" was, that this level of tyranny was imposed on people over a common cold virus.

Natural human freedoms should always take precedence over anything else. If some "expert" who is predicting doom says that people need to give up their freedoms, then their expertise automatically becomes irrelevant, and they should just be ignored.

When government and media start arguing that people need to surrender some of their human rights, then, as we saw during covid, it likely means that the government is planning on doing some very bad things.

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

That oath to disobey any order considered illegal or unjust is an interesting one, no doubt introduced in the wake of the Nuremburg trials. I wonder: does it apply to 'ordinary' police officers as well as the military?

Old Steve

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[jenniferkobernik]

Amazing that things like this can still surprise me…

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

Fascinating, thank you.

Hmm, well, as health providers, etc, are always said to be 'over-stretched', I suggest that govts. legislate to make us all stay safely in bed all day so as not to present them with any accidents, arising from walking about and doing things, at all.

In Europe, there are indications that the ever more ridiculous 'heat wave' alerts will be used to stop people from going to the beach and exposing themselves dangerously to those nasty rays.

What next drones to see whether you are recklessly 'catching some rays, eating cheese, drinking wine', in your backyard?

Re: Another 'Conspiracy Theory' Proven Correct

[(Anonymous)]

Ron M, thank you so much for this update.

It sounds so crazy, but well, we've all lived the covid times. Crazy happens, and when it does it's really bonkazoid.

I'm aware of 3 things. Back in the 90s Mexico City started forbidding people to drive their cars if their licence plate was odd or even or whatever on certain days. Many people thought this was good and necessary given the poor air quality. Well, people with a brain cell or two might not be surprised to learn that this hit working people very hard. Public transportation, while nearly free, is also crappy and dangerous and can be very time consuming to use. Well off people (and there a lot of them in Mexico City) simply bought another car or 3 so they'd always have one to drive no matter what. And that put a lot of crappy old polluting cars on the highway that might otherwise have been on highways outside Mexico City.

Second thing. Recent new law in Madrid, non-electric cars can no longer enter the city center. Perhaps someone there in Madrid can provide more detail. When I was visiting a couple of years ago, many taxi drivers were in a white-hot rage over this.

Third thing. Whatever the tyrants doing the lamestream press is lying about the net benefits, lying about the costs, and lying about the protests.

Good lord

[(Anonymous)]

Seems to me it all boils down to control.

They want full control and full power

It won't work.

VA Mtn Man

Mandatory AI

[(Anonymous)]

My wife had to go to an appointment in the urgent care clinic because our doctor retired and there's a doctor shortage (all the ones who are accepting new patients are pill pushers). The doctor asked if it was okay if they used AI to take notes, and my wife refused. Well that opened up a ten minute lecture that comes down to "you should do what I say because I have a lab coat."

My wife still refused, and here's the kicker. Doctor snapped back that "By next year you won't have a choice!"

Obviously what the doctor doesn't see here is they are being replaced. First they force them to take notes and jam them up with work that an assistant could do, then they introduce AI that takes notes for them, and the next step is you don't need a doctor any more. Just talk to the bot that's been programmed by big pharma, hospital administration, and the insurance industry. It makes cost cutting across the board extremely easy. Just tell the bot that you need such-and-such revenue this quarter, and it instantly converts every exam table into Procrustean mode until the desired results are achieved.

Who do you sue when the bot kills one of your relatives? The hospital? The programmer? Are litigation costs now going to involve coding experts (work that bots are taking over) and argued by bot attorneys?

Stay healthy friends. It's probably your best defense at this point.

KVD

Re: Mandatory AI

[(Anonymous)]

Well, to be a devil's advocate, AI might give you a more accurate diagnosis than your physician.
I am not all that impressed by the average GP. Many of them are in medicine because it has status, good pay, they were pressured into it by their familiy, and/ or they have the ability to pass the exams by cramming.

Once they have their MD, they are more interested in golf and an upper-end lifestyle than the real practice of mediciene, i.e., continuing to invest time in becoming skilled (and skeptical)in diagnosis and keeping up with the literature. Their knowlege of drugs is based on what corporate salemen tell them at medical conventions. After all, what is the basis of this long running website?

Some doctors are genuinely interested in medicine or want to promote human welfare, but for many it is (or has become) just a job. With the cases of mis-diagnosis one hears about, perhaps AI should not be dismissed out of hand.

“Why are so many kids autistic now?” 🤔

[(Anonymous)]

I saw this on FB and I think someone from a PR agency for Big Pharma came up with it knowing what buzz words to use so that it would go viral. It is basically shaming and patronising people for noticing the huge increase in those with autism - you are prejudiced and unaware apparently. The anecdotes are totally unrelatable - no I didn't have a creepy uncle etc. It also buys into the Religion of Progress notion that people in previous eras like the '70s were too thick to notice if someone was severely autistic, with learning difficulties, verbal tics, stimming, non verbal etc. This kind of autism is far more common now than it was in the 60s and 70s.

There is a kernel of truth to it - many people (high functioning autists like JMG) weren't diagnosed in the past but the high functioning ones don't end up in special schools and permanent residential care. The autistic spectrum has changed with far more cases and far more severe cases and that's what they don't want you to acknowledge.

“Why are so many kids autistic now?” 🤔

Must be the vaccines. Or the tablets. Or whatever TikTok told you to panic about today.
Nah, what’s really weird is how you all act like autism just came from nowhere — when in reality, you grew up surrounded by undiagnosed autistic people. You just called it something else.

Your cousin wasn’t “lazy.” He just couldn’t function without routine.
Your uncle didn’t “give you the creeps.” He struggled with social cues.
Your grandad with the strict breakfast routine and same chair every morning? That was sensory comfort and hyperfixation.
That classmate who was brilliant but never spoke?
The sibling who had meltdowns over scratchy clothes or loud sounds?
The kid who knew more about dinosaurs or trains than the teacher?
The adult who wears the exact same outfit every single day because it feels right?

You didn’t miss autism. You mislabeled it.
Autism isn’t new — but diagnosis is.
Awareness is.
Acceptance is.

So yeah, go ahead and keep blaming screen time or vaccines if it makes you feel better — while entire generations of folks were dismissed as “weird,” “bad,” or “slow.”
There is not a rise in neuro diversity and autism. There is a rise in people finally being seen for who they really are. 🩷❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜

*words not written by me but this is perfect so I needed to post*🙏

Re: “Why are so many kids autistic now?” 🤔

[ecosophia]

Dishonest b*stards.

Let's see them try to explain away the soaring rates of *severe* autism -- kids whose nervous systems are so fried they literally can't function in the world. There's a huge difference between that and my condition, which is manageable.

The leading cause of coincidence

[fredsmith11]

Re: The leading cause of coincidence

[(Anonymous)]

I know that change is real, and I remember how hard it was to incorporate the new normal into my lagging worldview when I first watched the video, back during the 2021 vaccine rollout, of so many athletes collapsing and dying mid-game. Nonetheless, that doctor's post is comparing apples to oranges.

All athletes dying from cardiac arrest is quite a different measure than only the under 35 cohort dying from multiple cardiac causes. The comparison of four and a half years to thirty-eight years is dramatic, but just how many of the recent excess deaths occurred in athletes over 35? There is nothing useful I can do with that data comparison without additional data with which to interpret it.

— Christophe

INSIDE MRNA VACCINES – THE MOVIE

[fredsmith11]

You can watch the movie here https://www.insidemrnavaccines.com/ , or download here: https://www.insidemrnavaccines.com/download

I prefer to keep my own copy of this type of material - it has a propensity to suddenly disappear.

Re: INSIDE MRNA VACCINES – THE MOVIE

[(Anonymous)]

Ooooh - thanks for the links, Fred!
I hear from good sources that this is a thoroughly researched and well-made film.

Ron M

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/silicon-valley-embryonic-testing-b2806737.html

"Tech execs are paying top dollar to breed smarter babies, report claims

Silicon Valley tech execs are reportedly paying up to $50,000 for a new genetic-testing service that promises to screen embryos for IQ"

[(Anonymous)]

a) I'm pretty sure you can't screen an embryo for IQ. How would one administer an IQ test?
b) if one could, are they then planning to abort any embryo that doesn't meet some arbitrary number on a very fishy test? Ick.
c) are they actually screening for down's syndrome and other genetic causes of lowered IQ? Because that seems more doable, if also not ethical.

Very eugenics of them, whether it actually measures anything useful or not. Not impressed.

I get the impression a lot of the tech bros have lost track of the fact they're not living in a bad science fiction novel, and that dystopian novels were not meant as a how-to guide for creating a future society.

Turbocancers

[fredsmith11]

Full article here:https://jeffreydachmd.com/2023/09/rapid-progression-of-lymphoma-after-booster/

"A quick review of the medical literature turned up a number of troubling case reports of “turbo cancers” after C0\/lD vaccination. These are rapidly progressing cancers in young people after receiving a booster shot. These turbo cancers were first reported as hematologic cancers such as lymphomas and leukemias arising shortly after C0\/lD vaccination. We now have case reports of virtually all other cancers arising shortly after C0\/lD vaccination. The mechanism is disturbance of the cancer surveillance function of our immune system, as described in 2022 by Dr Stephanie Seneff. The C0\/lD vaccine causes obstruction of Type I interferon signaling pathways, thereby interfering with cancer surveillance.(32-36)"

Nb. There's no evidence of an increase in Australian cancer deaths so far, according to the ABS data. Not sure what to make of that, as overall deaths are notably up vs pre-jab times.

https://i.postimg.cc/CKDk5Kcz/Turbocancer.jpg

[escorcher]

The final reveal when you take the P...?

[(Anonymous)]

Huzzah, that's one small step for some pharmacist, one giant leap for truth in advertising!

We have seen the future, and the future is flowers. As in, whenever possible go to an herbalist instead of a deadly harmacist.

— Christophe

[(Anonymous)]

MIT Creates AI-Powered Treatments to Combat Antibiotic Resistant Superbugs

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/mit-creates-ai-powered-treatments-combat-antibiotic-resistant/

i really do not like this idea..

[the_arcane_archivist]

The sooner this AI bubble croaks the better.

At this point there are too many signals that something is wrong with this stuff and yet.

Similar to the waxxine issue with brings us closer given that the waxxine was created using AI:

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/using-ai-lab-jab-how-did-artificial-intelligence-help-us-develop-and-deliver-covid

Which brings us full circle, to this strange creation.

We can argue that the AI is demonic just because is senseless and try to imitate and please humans, just that can end in disaster.

But the training set and the people that are feeding the training set are an issue. Imagine feeding training sets with all the toxic medicine, the worst superbugs some of whom may come from escaped biolabs clusterfracks.

At this point there's ample evidence of the AI being evil and hurting people's mind in the process, and yet people are still using it:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-ai-was-fed-sloppy-code-it-turned-into-something-evil-20250813/

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a65617948/ai-subliminal-messages/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/08/01/1120924/forcing-llms-to-be-evil-during-training-can-make-them-nicer-in-the-long-run/

After they hurt their bodies with spike proteins they are hurting now their minds too.

[(Anonymous)]

and now for something completely different..
zombie rabbits..

Virus in Colorado Causing Bizarre Horn-Like Growths on Rabbits

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/virus-colorado-causing-bizarre-horn-like-growths-rabbits/

[(Anonymous)]

The great Cthulhu has surprised us all by awakening from his long slumber, not in the deepest depths of the sea, but in the darkest corners of the rabbit warren. We need no longer wonder what all those wascally wabbits were up to — worshiping the great old ones in their byzantine lairs.

If you really want to be traumatized by the full visual, here it is:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cottontail+rabbit+papillomavirus&t=ffnt&ia=images&iax=images
Be afraid; be very afraid! They're coming for us.

— Christophe

[tritumi]

The logic of an analysis that links Covid and AI is apparent. Both are deep training programs or conditioning systems. Both induce belief in an artificially created reality and both initiate the believer into a cult. Both cults enlist a technocratic elite at the pinnacle of service to an injection that is all embracing of body and mind. Both are controlled by massive pools of capital and owned by a small cadre of oligarchs. Both claim to define the future. Both demand acceptance of that claim as fact.

[the_arcane_archivist]

At this point there is evidence that AI was used to make the waxxine spike protein

Circumstantial evidence that it was used for generating parts of BOVID or even entirely(my speculation)

Circumstantial evidence that it was used for crowd control, social engineering and censorship(a lot of commenters on this thread speculated with circumstantial bits of proof about that, many comments on the web and the way that the censorship worked looked like a crude version of LLMs)

Given that AI turns people crazy it cannot be excluded that AI had a big role in the BOVID mass hysteria:
https://futurism.com/psychiatrist-warns-ai-psychosis

Given the demonic nature of the AI a demonic hypothesis still makes sense, is just one via proxy. The proxy being the machine learning, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc

The marriage of AI, mRNA and BOVID can be seen perfectly in the Stargate Project:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_LLC




Larry Ellison contended that Stargate could lead to the AI-facilitated production of mRNA vaccines against cancer, and that such vaccines could be designed "robotically", or by leveraging AI, "in about 48 hours".

Of course because testing in vivo and in vitro is not even talked about.

When considering this mRNA cancer waxxines, they are talking about testing in silico or tested on a computer model, like it's a real thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_silico

[(Anonymous)]

AstraZeneca launches at-home FluMist nasal spray delivery

FluMist was previously only available at pharmacies or doctors' offices.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/astrazeneca-launches-home-flumist-nasal-spray-delivery/story?id=124660498

now your whole house can have shedding..?

this does not strike me as a good idea..

Recent transcripts

[transcriberb]

A couple of things on my radar of late that might be of interest to forumistas:


Firstly:

csofand and Debbie Lerman have brought forth a spotlight on the "3 spike pattern"

Debbie Lerman's post about csofand's research:
https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/same-excess-death-patterns-in-multiple

csofand's most recent post:
https://csofand.substack.com/p/the-third-spike


Secondly:

In answer to Steve Kirsch's call for extraordinary covd jab-related mortality anecdotes, and as part of my ongoing efforts to create an index for my ever-expanding archive of counter-narrative transcripts circa 2021-2023, I gathered them up here:

#ADVERSE-EVENTS:MORTALITY-ANECDOTES
https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/215471.html

If you want to see them with a screenshot, that would be on the recent substack post:
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/people-people-take-heed-marva-peschier

(I basically use the Transcriber B Substack to post a screenshot and then link to the dreamwidth.org site)


P.S. Latest memes:
https://transcriberb.substack.com/p/time-out-to-fall-down-the-rabbit

And Christopher

[transcriberb]

I also meant to mention—

I thought this was an especially important post, by an activist and attorney for the vaccine injured (and himself injured by the covid jabs) Christopher Dreisbach:

The Creation of New ICD-10 Codes for Post-Covid Vaccine Syndrome
by Christopher Dreisbach, August 15, 2025
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-creation-of-new-icd-10-codes-for-post-covid-vaccine-syndrome/


My comment: It might seem dry and even trivial to be talking about medical coding but actually it's incredibly important for people to actually get help from the medical industrial complex for their injuries.

I first came across Dreisbach's work when I found his Zoom for a conferemce in Idaho back in 2022. Here's that info:

Attorney Christopher Dreisbach Tells His Story and Explains the Legal Hurdles for the Vax Injured
Source:
"IDAHO VICTIMS OF PANDEMIC POLICY AND LAW pt 4"
Victimsofthepandemic, posted December 14, 2022 [livestreamed September 26, 2022]
https://rumble.com/v20kjhe-idaho-victims-of-pandemic-policy-and-law-pt-4.html
Transcript: https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/199968.html

A shocking picknic

[vitranc]

Hi,
A strange report;
This weekend I attended a BBQ with some family relations of my partner. This is the hinterlands of a german speaking country and the folks felt comfortable enough to brush up against some uncomfortable ww2 politics and passive acceptance of it by the agrarian population. And what kind of guilt is appropriate now.
Then one woman said this (I am not salting you): "Well what is there not to understand, we did the same during the vaxx, a mass movement came and we all fell for it even though it was wrong. We all took it."
And the others just barely visibly noded.
And I am sitting there wide eyed and holding back from speaking. ("Well I didn't do it.")
This are the people who told me during the covid crisis to not speak, because it was to painful. The woman in question was at the time comparing her antibody test results with her sister, which one has a higher antibody score. They lectured me.
The above quote is awareness.

So covid vaxx is done. The general populace is well aware, even though silent, about it.

Best regards,
V

Re: A shocking picknic

[(Anonymous)]

Thank-you for sharing this amazing story. Here in New Zealand, the rapid drop-off in booster uptake suggests people have awareness of something being wrong, but I have yet to hear vaccinated people speak openly in such terms.

We are supposed to be having a public enquiry to provide transparency over the covid response. But the ministers who made the key decisions have declined to appear in public - or at least that is how it is presented to us. Actually the commission can compel them to attend and cannot fulfil its stated purpose without calling on them to appear in public, but declines to do so. This is explained much better in this response from one of the activist groups than I can do:

https://media.realitycheck.radio/2025/08/vff-reply-letter-to-commission.pdf

This is very frustrating, but perhaps I should not have hoped for any better.

Indigo Raving Snail