Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 191

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

JMG and others,

What do you expect will be our (people emotionally bruised by the psyops of the last few years) relationship with the mainstream society? Are we going to act like nothing happened and move on to the next propaganda campaign, be it AI or "boycott USA" in case of the Canadians or whatever comes? Or are we going to have a deep scar that will affect our relation with the society going forward?

For example, my unvaxxed kid will be going to College soon, and I know that he will be surrounded by the mainstream students and professors, who have a different recollection of the pandemic than us. Also, he will probably attend biology/medicine-related classes, where the teacher and co-students "know" that the virus came from bats and the vaccine "worked" to stop the pandemic. He will probably have to write those "known" facts in papers and articles. I wonder how the life will be for this entire group of kids in the future.

[transcriberb]

Hello Anonymous, great question. I am some decades past university myself but I can tell you, I struggle with this question every day.

Dr. Suzanne Humphries at Joe Rogan podcast, update

[the_arcane_archivist]

Sorry for bringing back this on this thread too but just realised that the other thread finished today.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/rogan-guest-makes-shocking-claim-about-polio-vaccine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=207W1A_bJqI

Before that, vaccine manufacturers were getting hammered with lawsuits. Humphries explained that after the 1976 swine flu vaccine disaster, Guillain-Barré cases were piling up. It got so bad that the companies couldn’t even get insurance.

They ran to the government and basically said: “Bail us out, or we’re done making vaccines.” So the government stepped in. First, it agreed to cover the lawsuits. Then came the 1986 law—sold to the public as a way to help injured families get compensation faster, but in reality, it became a kangaroo court system that rarely paid families deserving of vaccine injury claims.
[...]

Dr. Humphries also cited a chilling story in history. In 1916, a Rockefeller lab in Manhattan set out with “the specific stated goal… to try to create the most pathological, neuropathological strain of polio possible.” Researchers injected monkey brains and human spinal fluid into monkeys.

And that experimentation came with devastating consequences. “There was a big problem with that, which was [polio] released into the public by accident,” Dr. Humphries explained. “And the world experienced the worst polio epidemic on record. 25% mortality.”

In short, Humphries argued that polio didn’t vanish because of vaccines. It disappeared under a mountain of redefinitions, environmental triggers, manmade disasters, and a lot of propaganda.

I think this is the most important post on the subject that ZH ever run. And it is 100% to the subject of this thread. I will be watching the full interview as soon as I have time. At some point in the video it talks about how flu shot was discovered to give kidney failure, they also discuss food and other things, a very very informative video.

Later Update: This really a must see interview for readers here they talk about everything demons, lockdowns, about another cancer giving vaccine from the past, SV40, etc

also since we are into the information war, they are just now beginning to understand how dangerous medical AI models can be... at least a few people begin.

You can poison a model with just a little bad data in the training set.

So the medical misinformation might have came out exactly from the people enforcing it Big Tech


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03445-1
We find that replacement of just 0.001% of training tokens with medical misinformation results in harmful models more likely to propagate medical errors.

Re: Dr. Suzanne Humphries at Joe Rogan podcast, update

[(Anonymous)]

The first part of your post was the origin of the VAERS system as reported by Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Adverse_Event_Reporting_System

I have heard elsewhere that the same legislation also absolved vaccine manufacturers from legal liability for harm caused by their product. That memory of mine needs to be cross-checked, however.

open thread archive .epub, .txt, .html / the whole open thread and comments

[the_arcane_archivist]

The following links contains the archives (.epub and .html, and for Vol. 2,3,4,5 and Vol. 6 there is .txt too)

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Re: open thread archive .epub, .txt, .html / the whole open thread and comments

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for putting them together !

[anonymoose_canadian]

A while back, I mentioned a sense that Shapona, the Yoruba smallpox god, was involved in the Covid madness. I've started reading up on why smallpox was so deadly, and have found the general consensus among the scientists who studied the disease is that it was so dangerous because it evolved the extremely nasty trick of infecting immune cells and using them as a means to spread around the body. In addition to letting the disease spread rapidly through every organ system, this also meant smallpox infections inherently caused substantial immune damage; and once the immune system finally got its act together, it brought out the truly big guns and did a ton of further collateral damage. As a general rule, the immune system tends to go into serious overdrive whenever there is a disease that infects immune cells, as a way to keep diseases from evolving in that direction.

The mRNA vaccines shut down a lot of these defense mechanims. In fact, this was a major selling point, because a lot of the issues with a Covid-19 infection was because the immune system reacted strongly to a virus that already had certain adaptations that brought it the ability to infect immune cells; and since most populations now have a mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated, the virus is going to be able to pick up a lot of further nasty tricks in the easier conditions of the vaccinated who have immune systems that tolerate it, while also facing strong selective pressure from the unvaccinated in order to evolve ways to apply these tricks even in healthy immune systems.

If this leads in the direction that seems likely, then the Covid-19 madness has created the ideal circumstances for another virus to evolve in the general direction of smallpox. Covid-19 is already able to cause rashes, which is often described as looking a lot like chickenpox. It would be ironic, in the way that god's curses often are, if a botched mass vaccination campaign turned a flu virus into a smallpox like virus...

[(Anonymous)]

The original covid sometimes caused rashes and just about anything else in some people, but I and the large majority of people I know have had Omicron and nobody groused about a significant rash, much less one with pustules like smallpox (or chickenpox, or cowpox). In theory Omicron's reduced virulence could be reversed, but there's no reason it would look then like smallpox; probably it would look more like SARS, a much deadlier coronavirus respiratory infection.

Intoxication is a Side Effect

[(Anonymous)]

This week's meme reminds me of something related. For many years, I had understood the word "intoxicated" to be synonymous with "drunk". It was only about 10 years ago that I learned it had a broader meaning. Change the phrase in the meme as follows:

"intoxication is your body's way of notifying you that you have been poisoned."

That's right, alcohol and other addictive substances are, in fact, poisons. That buzz you feel is your body telling you that you've ingested poison. Kind of changes how you look at intoxicants.

At the same time, it has been understood for millennia that many poisonous substances can also act as powerful medications in small doses. It is a complicated world we live in ...

Caldathras

BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) psoriasis

[the_arcane_archivist]

A few years ago I made the connection that my psoriasis triggered a year or so after an waxxine as a kid. Today I searched for it and it was the BCG Waxxine in 8th grade. There is some evidence suggesting a potential connection between psoriasis and the BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) waxxine.

Do you know anyone getting autoimmune problems after the BCG Waxxine?!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1027811712000298
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10828154/
https://www.medicaljournals.se/acta/download/10.2340/00015555-0496/

Re: BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) psoriasis

[(Anonymous)]

I had the BCG and it seemed to trigger fairly bad acne. I'd had the Heaf test come back positive, probably owing to family holidays as a kid on active farms. But I was given the BCG anyway "just in case". Acne started a few days later on the injected arm, spread over the shoulders to the other arm, down the back to the legs. I've had some ever since.
(Side story, the BCG caused a hospitalization. Queue up about 300 kids at school for the injection, lines winding through the canteen. Jab a few, until some clown gets jabbed, grabs his arm and yells loudly. Nervous kid about 15-20 back in the queue faints, falls over, cracks his skull on the canteen kitchen sink. And there's me about 150 back watching someone get stretchered to an ambulance. Lots of panicked kids!)
Rufty

[(Anonymous)]

FLORIDA BOY 15yo DID SUDDENLY while playing POLO in Miami during a Tournament... WHILE EVERYONE WATCHED!

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5972043/pg1

[ecosophia]

Fewer capitals would be welcome next time. It's not as though this is anything especially surprising at this point, after all.

[(Anonymous)]

naomi makes an april fool's post:

Dr Walensky, Dr Fauci and Bill Gates are issuing a formal letter of apology for the mass murder of thousands and the disabling of hundreds of thousands.

https://x.com/naomirwolf/status/1907207930438447574#m

[the_arcane_archivist]

Beside the joke I think the numbers are at least 3 orders of magnitude more, on a global scale.

A Few Questions about Cancer from the Vaccine

[(Anonymous)]

Hi everyone,

I have a couple of questions about whether there's any statistical evidence or other population-level signs of higher cancer rates post-vaccination. I know one of the big concerns is that MRNA vaccines might lead to cancer, and tonight I had some free time to do some digging, although it just ended up raising more questions so I wanted to see if anyone here could help.

The first thing I looked for was just cancer diagnoses in the US. It seems the CDC used to publish this data regularly, but stopped releasing cancer incidence data in 2021, and cancer death figures in 2022. This immediately made me wonder why they would do this? The conspiratorial part of me wants to jump to the conclusion that they want to cover up increased cancer/deaths, but maybe there's some other reason? I feel like its odd they would just stop tracking the total number of cancer cases, and I can't find the explanation. Is there data from other sources on cancer diagnoses in the US?

CDC Data here: https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/data/index.html#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20in,cancer%20death%20data%20are%20available.

In the absence of data on cancer diagnoses and deaths, I thought maybe there could be other data that might serve as a proxy for cancer rates. I looked up total spending on oncology products from IQVIA which is like a big-time Healthcare data company. From 2019-2023 spending on oncology rose pretty consistently by about $20 Billion per year. Its increasing at an increasing rate, but not enough to suggest that millions more people than the existing trend in developed countries are getting diagnosed with cancer (or at least spending money on oncology products).

IQVIA-
https://www.iqvia.com/insights/the-iqvia-institute/reports-and-publications/reports/global-oncology-trends-2024

Assuming there's not some nefarious purpose to the CDC cutting off their data and the IQVIA data is accurate, and assuming the vaccine rolled out to most people in developed countries in 2021, that would give like 200,000,000 people in the US around 2 years to develop cancer. According to the CDC data, almost 2 million people per year were getting diagnosed with cancer in 2021. If even 2% of those vaccinated got cancer in 2023, that would be 4 million new cancer diagnoses, or twice the number of people who typically get cancer in a year. You'd think that would spike the oncology drug market or something, right?

I don't know, maybe I'm missing something, or maybe it would just take longer for cancer to develop? Interested to get your thoughts.

Re: A Few Questions about Cancer from the Vaccine

[industrialchemy]

I don’t have any answers or data sources, but it occurs to me that the sort of cancer we’ve been hearing about lately has been turbo cancer that kills people quickly. A shorter window in which to treat it would translate into less money spent, I would expect. So that is one possible reason why spending on oncology drugs might no longer be a good proxy indicator for number of cancer cases.

[(Anonymous)]

A bit of news:

Scientists Shocked: World’s FIRST Peer-Reviewed Paper Confirms Pfizer mRNA Vaccine Contaminated with DNA and Dangerous SV40 Enhancer
"We finally have it—the very first published scientific evidence showing that the mRNA vaccine, Pfizer vaccines, were contaminated with bacterial plasmid DNA"
Aussie17
Apr 02, 2025
https://www.aussie17.com/p/scientists-shocked-worlds-first-peer

civil war

[(Anonymous)]

What do you all think will be the endgame of the endless tyranny we have been subjected to since early 2020?

Kunstler's commentaries had been quite hopeful over the last few years as he argued that the new government after 2024 election would deal with all evil-doers (Covid, Russia hoax, j6, etc.) using the legal system. Now he is saying that a civil war is inevitable.

A number of other writers from various western countries are coming to the same conclusion.

David Betz from King's college UK - https://www.militarystrategymagazine.com/article/civil-war-comes-to-the-west/

Zman - https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=33857

I also know a number of native-born Canadians, who are all ready to rebel and "take back the country".

Re: civil war

[(Anonymous)]

"At this point I see a civil war happening. I am still very angry with the people that tried to get me fired from my job for avoiding the vaccine and the other ways the same groups have gas lit me in the past and banished me from their various social clubs; university, sports teams, places of leisure. I know other people that are more angry than I am. It seems to me that many of us have shifted from seeing these people as mistaken to insane and dangerous."

OP again. I saw this comment in an earlier thread and think it fits here.

One video I came across from a British professor discusses the nature of civil war in the context of UK. He says that the cities need extensive support system from the rural or semi-rural areas around them. So, people in the rural areas can cut those supports, and create havoc inside the cities. For example, the power stations of many UK cities are located unprotected in the rural areas. So, he argues that a small number of rural rebels can bring down the cities by attacking those power stations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOR8NhL09JQ

For obvious reasons, he did not elaborate more on various other possibilities :), but he sees the fault line in UK as rural versus cities. This may be different in the US or Canada.

[(Anonymous)]

This April fool's joke from 2021 aged really well with time -

https://x.com/JacquiDeevoy1/status/1907047226997612922

(summary - on April 1st, 2021, Pfizer's CEO said that the vaxx was not merely 95% effective. It was in fact 100% effective in his data from South Africa).

[(Anonymous)]

HORROR: Man Who Loathes Big Pharmacies Guns Down Innocent Walgreens Worker in California

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/horror-man-who-loathes-big-pharmacies-guns-down/

terrible.. and i hope this isnt going to be the norm

[the_arcane_archivist]

While the perpetrators of the Big Pharma abuse sit behind gated communities with armed guards.

That's the problem with violence, blind and stupid, most of the time, and also with not resisting at the right time.

Sad.

Mangione is famous because cases like his are rather the exception than the norm.

Full transcript of The Joe Rogan Experience - #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries + My selections

[the_arcane_archivist]

Full transcript of The Joe Rogan Experience - #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries

https://archive.is/pt3YF

Here my selections, Highlights:

Starting point is 00:01:02
Cinnamon is a powerful herb, actually, and it's known to be helpful in glucose handling for a lot of diabetics taking it in capsule form now. I noticed at the end of my nephrology career that a lot of my own patients were taking cinnamon capsules, but it also has a lot of vitamin C in it, and I think that was probably one of the keys.

[...]
Starting point is 00:03:29
When people go and look at them, they find it's anything but standardized. It's very variable, which is why we see such variability in the results when people receive them. That's only one reason why there's so much variability. And do you think it's the immunity to any legal consequences that has allowed them to sort of operate like this? Well, we certainly saw an explosion of their creativity since 1986. So actually in 1986, you're referring to the National Child Vaccine Injury Act that was
Starting point is 00:04:01
passed in 1986. But before 1986, we had 1976, which was the swine flu vaccine fiasco. And that was a situation where there was so much injury that the vaccine producing companies were no longer able to get insurance. And so they went to the government and they said, we need you to indemnify us. And they did. And so the government absorbed all the lawsuit cases that happened as a result of the guillem barret that happened from then.

[...]

Starting point is 00:11:23
What the facts line up to show you is that polio is still here. Polio is still alive and well. Polio is called different things today. Whereas back in the 1940s, 1950s, the criteria for diagnosing polio were completely different to the year that the vaccine was introduced. The playing field, the goalposts, everything was changed so that despite the fact that there was more paralytic polio in the years after that vaccine was introduced, they were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply because of the way they changed the definitions of what polio is and what could cause it.

[...]

the countries that still make
Starting point is 00:13:02
DDT today is where we're still seeing this paralytic polio situation happen. And also weren't the first cases did they break out in a rural community? The first cases of polio, yes. In the United States, paralytic polio. Yes, it was out in the countryside. Well that was probably more because of the sheep and cow dipping. So arsenic, you'd have to look at arsenic, you have to look at the mercurials, you have to look at the calcium arsenate, lead arsenate sprays that were put on trees. But what you're talking about in particular, they would call the cow disease. They would go out and the family, when you would go to the house, they'd say, all the kids have the cow disease, what the cows had before


[...]
Starting point is 00:44:43
about that were there before will be in your final product. Wonderful. So you have a product now that you can be not completely sure has any of these deadly microbes but now has mercury, which the only places it's actually okay to have on the planet, mercury, is in vaccines, your tooth, or toxic landfill. So if you were to drop a vaccine at a vaccine clinic onto the floor, the hazmat guys would come and you're not allowed to just pick it up if it's a mercury-containing vaccine. The hazmat people have to come and take that away. Yet we're okay to take, you know, a portion of that vial and inject it into, you know, a child,
Starting point is 00:45:22
a three-month-old child.
[...]
Starting point is 00:45:55
it's in us until you do something like something called chelation where you can put a chemical into the body that can grab onto it and pull it out through your urine. Otherwise you're stuck with it. So in my opinion, all mercury is bad, shouldn't be put into humans, shouldn't be in our food sources, shouldn't be in our environment, except for in the net. Look,


[...]
that got its funding revoked. So SV40 is now contagious amongst people? Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. We probably both have it. Most of us probably have had it one time or other, you know, whether it's lying dormant in our kidneys. It depends on, everything depends on your background immunity, which depends on what
Starting point is 01:15:57
you're doing for fun and not fun and how you're eating and how much you're sleeping, et cetera, how much sun you're getting, sweating. Sweating gets rid of a lot of stuff. It's really good to sweat. It's just such a disturbing thought that this was introduced to people through vaccines and now is spreading. And what's the worst health impact that it could have if it spreads to you and not through a vaccine?
[...]
In terms of SV40 kidney cancers, there's no doubt that the rate of kidney cancers has gone up alongside with the infection rate of humanity for SV40, as well as diseases

[...]
Starting point is 02:11:35
You have to open that wound if that's going to happen. But tetanus has been... There's a whole series of reports on instances where the cotton that was made for menstrual pads for women postpartum was impregnated with tetanus, and they got horrible cases of tetanus just from using those menstrual pads. So the hospital systems have also been, you know, responsible. The biggest thing is that being vaccinated for tetanus is not necessarily security against not getting tetanus.

[...]

But what's really important here is what you're saying is that even if you get the tetanus shot, if you step on a nail, like you could still get tetanus. Look, it's one of the tetanus in order to make tetanus immune globulin, which is another
Starting point is 02:22:20
option when say you have a cut and your magic tetanus shot doesn't work right away, then you can get an immune globulin injection that came from somebody who has had tetanus. Usually, these are people who have actually had tetanus, not who have been. And one of the donors that's in the literature that I use is somebody who has had natural tetanus despite having several vaccines. So no, the tetanus vaccine is not a guarantee against... It's like a severe tetanus. Yeah. That's right. Before you die, they call it severe.
Starting point is 02:22:51
Yeah. But it could also be caused by meningitis. This is the kind of the dead baby equivalent that they use for tetanus. So this was a soldier, I believe, during a very long time ago. And he was, they don't even show you his wound, he's probably stepped on something.
[...]

[(Anonymous)]

Arkansas Gov. Huckabee Sanders Signs Bill Approving Purchase of Ivermectin Without Prescription

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/arkansas-gov-huckabee-sanders-signs-bill-approving-purchase/

this is good to see.. and i think there are more
states doing it as well.
i wish it were so here in canada.

but i do wonder, if the pharmacies will defy it..

[(Anonymous)]

Instead, here in Canada, the BC government bureaucrats are sending threatening letters (full of misinformation and FUD) out to livestock feed stores and veterinary drug sellers trying to bully these businesses into questioning customer's reasons for buying Ivermectin and refusing sales if the customer is stupid enough to admit it's for non-veterinary use (by exercising their right to refuse sales as a privately-owned business).

The question is, if the bureaucrats have the legal right to regulate these substances, why are they instead trying to coerce the businesses into doing it for them? Why do the letters not quote the sections and clauses of the law that they claim empowers them to enforce this?

I think they are powerless and they know it ...

Caldathras

[(Anonymous)]

WINNING: Trump Admin. Removes Anthony Fauci’s Wife and One of His Closest Cronies from The National Institutes of Health

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/winning-trump-admin-removes-anthony-faucis-wife-one/

it seems to say they were reassigned, though..

[(Anonymous)]

They reassigned her and some others to the Indian Health Service. Effectively, that means "We have no excuse to fire you, but we CAN reassign you to Bugtussle, New Mexico (pop. 275), and we're pretty darn sure you'll quit rather than move there." But it also reads as "The people we really hate, we'll dump them on the natives, she's good enuf for THEM" - particularly annoying when Native American food security and educational funds have just gotten slashed or cancelled.

[(Anonymous)]

Fauci's wife has been fired from the NIH.

https://x.com/TaraBull808/status/1907497644878139668

[(Anonymous)]

But, but, she's one of the 'top ethicists in the world'!

[tritumi]

My thanks to the Anon who referenced James Tunney. His many interviews with Jeffry Mishlove are quite informative.

His thesis regarding Elite intention is that AI will become the replacement for human soul and volition. In the reset era techno utopians envision, humans are basically units on a plantation.

Meanwhile, the murmuration likely amplifies in an ever more distorted and distorting wave.

In civil war scenarios, the condition is one of occupation under a hostile power. The role for those sanely committed to emergence of an alternative is as partisan, defined traditionally.

[the_arcane_archivist]

The elite must decide on one of these options because both cannot coexist:

• Capitalism relies on outsourcing to the cheapest labor markets.


• Capitalism will make an AI to replace human soul and volition.

Mind Control: Early Tavistock Techniques

[(Anonymous)]

Here's a transcript of an Alan Watts presentation from 2008 called Mind Control: Early Tavistock Techniques. It feels relevant to me due to the mind control techniques used in the covid mess. I appreciate the historical perspective of this presentation. Here are a couple of paragraphs:

Tavistock propaganda techniques began on a mass scale when radio first came out. It worked very well. [Before that there were] novels and they acted out these novels on stage, in plays about the great hero going off to war, returning as more of a man than before, and [how] everybody respected him, this great server of his country.

When they went onto the radio waves, they upgraded it all and adapted it for mass audiences who then had to visualize, because they couldn’t see a stage play. They got expert writers and early psychologists so you could picture the hero and the heroine in your mind.

TV took over then and yet even still, it’s not good enough yet; even though we emulate everything on TV, it’s not good enough. They’re going towards total control, right down to the individual. He must be predictable. Mass psychology, mass indoctrination works on most people, but not everyone. That’s the problem. It is the few in the group who can still retain their thinking powers that they want to target.

That’s why they’ve been [targeting] young children at school, especially males who have leadership qualities and ask [too many] questions. Teachers now call them nuisances. Now, if you ask too many questions, you’re hyper, you’ve got problems of some kind or another. Maybe [these kids] can see through the indoctrination process.

Within a generation, we’ve allowed the children to be drugged by the pharmaceutical industries. The parents have been indoctrinated, through the daytime media and talk shows, [to believe] that this is good for their children.

Re: Mind Control: Early Tavistock Techniques

[(Anonymous)]

But Alan Watts died in 1973, long before the Tavistock started to become demonized. I think you mean Alan Watt, an entirely different, more recent, and seemingly much more anxious (if not paranoid) sort of person.

[(Anonymous)]

Week 191

Dear JMG and dear forumistas, thank you.

Many of you may have seen that Dr. Mary Bowden was on Tucker Carlson's show. This is the parting of the waters moment.

I have not even watched the interview, and I'm not sure that I will because I would find it upsetting and more likely than not, it covers ground I am already very familiar with. (To be clear, I have a great deal of respect and admiration for Dr. Mary Bowden.)

For anyone who may not know, Dr. Mary Bowden is on the board of the Vaccine Safety Rsearch Foundation, which was founded by Steve Kirsch. She also testified in one of Senator Ron Johnson's roundtables.

This is much more than "a crack in the narrative." This truly is huge.

With this month of April 2025 it seems we're into new territory.

Cetiosaurus

[(Anonymous)]

here is the interview for anyone interested:

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden: How Vaccines Got Politicized and the Medical Industry Lost All Credibility

https://rumble.com/v6rk1nr-dr.-mary-talley-bowden-how-vaccines-got-politicized-and-the-medical-industr.html

[(Anonymous)]

At one time, during a miserable period of corporate employment in London, I walked past the Tavistock Institute every day; across the street, the house where Lenin stayed while in England - now, as then, a seedy cheap hotel.

Two world-shaping forces!

[(Anonymous)]

Trump wrote an executive order in September 2019 promoting vaccines:

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-13887-modernizing-influenza-vaccines-the-united-states-promote-national

[(Anonymous)]

I never forgot the Covid craziness started with him. Voted for him anyway when they shot his ear off.

[(Anonymous)]

Founder Klaus Schwab to step down as World Economic Forum's chair

https://www.reuters.com/business/world-economic-forum-founder-klaus-schwab-step-down-chair-trustees-ft-reports-2025-04-03/

so i think he is gone for good this time

[the_arcane_archivist]

Rats fleeing the sinking ship?

Erythropoietin / Procrit killings for profit

[(Anonymous)]

Not directly related, but some interesting content and probably something everyone should read about:

https://www.statnews.com/2025/04/03/erythropoietin-epo-scandal-cancer-drug-johnson-and-johnson-no-more-tears-excerpt/

Erythropoietin is an expensive drug that's supposed to reduce anemia caused by cancer treatment. J&J did multiple studies that found it killed a lot of people (promoting tumor growth and causing blood clots ... hey, sounds like Moderna made it...) and buried them. Finally a brave whistleblower published and fought to defend a negative study. Investigations found the hidden data and FDA put a black-box warning on the drug. Yet doctors have continued to prescribe it, mostly oncologists who get a share of the cost as profit, and especially semi-competent ones practicing in small towns where victims have few options. This drug may have killed up to 500,000 people and apparently it is STILL on the market, being used to gouge the life savings out of dying patients. A good representative quote:

"Lies, feckless government oversight, and the participation of nearly every oncologist and cancer hospital in the country are all part of this story. Indeed, EPO’s history demonstrates just how unscrupulous one of America’s most important companies and the nation’s educated elite truly can be, helping to explain why President Donald J. Trump and his health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., get so much support for their claims that the system is corrupt."

Again, this hit the fan 20 years ago. Seems like nothing has changed.

Re: Erythropoietin / Procrit killings for profit

[stubborn_ass]

From the article: "While the story of EPO begins in the 1980s when the drug was first approved and came to market, a crucial moment came in October 2003, when a study in the Lancet medical journal came to the shocking conclusion that EPO may be killing cancer patients, nearly half of whom were being given EPO to prevent or treat anemia that results from many chemotherapy treatments."

There's a common misconception, fanned by MSM now, that sugar is the culprit and that it feeds cancer. So many people just go on a 'sugar-free' diet, say it's making their lives better and then eventually crash and burn, as sugar in its many different forms is a very necessary part of our daily energy intake. That's a big topic to unpack by itself, and Mercola has done a series of articles on it over the years, which should be a good primer for folks looking for more in-depth explanations.

What I wanted to point out is that many cancers, including the more common ones like colorectal cancer, are actually fueled by iron - not sugar. 75+% of colorectal patients develop anemia at some point... and when my mom had her turbocancer episode, there was a Sunday where she insisted on doing her usual marketing, came home by 9 something in the morning and I checked her blood pressure around 11. That is more than 1 hr after she got home, mostly resting at home, and her heart rate was still going hard at 95+. That clued me in that she would probably become quite anemic within a week... and then I had the runaround from the medical system as I wanted to donate compatible blood from unvexed family members like me to her, but all the clinics I enquired at refused to do it, saying they will only take from the central blood bank - aka vexed blood. No way, jose. That would have been adding insult to injury.

The way the colorectal cancer cells work, they would sequester the iron in the blood, even if the cancer cells wasn't using it up yet. So the patient doesn't have enough iron to create fresh red blood cells. Thus my hope was that the liquid VIM treatment would work fast enough, that enough cancer cells would die, and thus freeing up the blood iron to re-circulate and then be used by the body appropriately. Thankfully that worked. Doing an iron transfusion then would have been counter-productive, IMHO, as it would have given more fuel to the cancer cells instead - that's why I wanted to do a blood transfusion as a stop-gap option.

Anyways, going back to what the article was saying - by inference the anemia that results from many chemotherapy treatments - is because those treatments are not really working that well, aka not killing enough cancer cells. So if someone develops anemia despite starting their chemo treatment for a while, that's actually a big clue that it's not working and they should be doing something else, just my 2 cents.

Tipperary

[nightwatchwaits]

It’s a long, long way to Tipperary, it’s a long to go.
The Guardian. The Guardian … !!!
https://politomix.com/the-guardian/2239423/case-study-groupthink-liberals-wrong-pandemic/

Re: Tipperary

[(Anonymous)]

There's no doubt that just about all of the left turned into raging authoritarians over covid, but I think a lot of the left vs right stuff was just theatre.

Here in Australia, the conservative government of the time (under PM Scott Morrison) supported everything the left wing states (especially Victoria) did in terms of the lockdowns and vaccine mandates. Morrison was happy just to stay in the background and quietly facilitate the actions of Vic and other states, while allowing the state premiers to draw all of the flak and attention through their obnoxious behaviour. Many people still hate the state premiers because of what they did, but few hate Morrison because they don't understand the role that he played.

The right wing media was critical of some aspects of the lockdowns and mask mandates, but at the same time they were hostile to the freedom protesters and came down hard on the "covidiots" (those who broke the lockdown rules).

Out of the left wing media, the nine network (TV station) and The Age newspaper (owned by channel nine) were possibly the worst in the way they covered covid. Nine news were extremely hostile in their coverage of the freedom protesters, and The Age turned into fanatical supporters of covid totalitarianism and published a lot of very authoritarian and unhinged articles. Well, guess who the chairman of nine network was during this time? Peter Costello, a former conservative treasurer. He made some comments a couple of years ago about how crazy some of the covid measures were, but somehow wasn't able to use his influence to get the nine network and Age to provide more balanced coverage of covid.

The criticisms made by the academics in the guardian piece are still very mild, and like all criticisms in the mainstream don't address the core lies of the covid situation: that there was a deadly virus in circulation, and there needed to be lockdowns until a vaccine became available, and that an experimental injection that had never been tested on humans before 2020 needed to be forced onto as many people as possible.