Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 184

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

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[wolf_wobo]

That music sounds interesting. More info please?

~Wolf

Re: ???

[ecosophia]

Yes was one of the biggest progressive-rock bands of the 1970s, and a personal fave of mine. "Starship Trooper" was one of their biggest hits. You can hear it on Soundcloud here:

https://soundcloud.com/yesofficial/yes-starship-trooper

News: Satire writers out of job

[vitranc]

Well I noticed this today:
The American Prospect: What Trump Could Learn From Hitler on NIH Funding

So this ticks off three major predictions of this forum:
- ADR: "this days being a satire writer is the hardest job in the world. The reality is weirder then the comedians"
- Wagner posts: "the way to bring intelligentsia in line is to cut funding"
- Ecosophia (main): "what you contemplate you imitate"

Re: News: Satire writers out of job

[ecosophia]

Okay, I'm holding my sides, after laughing so much that they hurt. The American Prospect is encouraging Trump to imitate Hitler?

Just writing that set off another round of laughter. Ow.

On the subject of Meghan McCain

[(Anonymous)]

There is a platform called 2Way that Mark Halperin started. He recently added Meghan McCain to his lineup of commentators. I understand that both of these people are deep state hacks or wannabe deep state hacks who got cancelled and so have an axe to grind. But this week Meghan McCain got on at about 1 minute 15 seconds on this link and talked about how she will never forgive or forget what the Democrats and the govt. did over Covid. She particularly focuses on the vaccine mandate. So far, Youtube has not censored. Progress?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=530Lk2BIi_M

Case of stuff...

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone know of anything that could help make long Covid more bearable? I know pine needle tea is a possible resource. If conventional docs tell you they don't know they've done all they can, seems a drag. What is rumored (unsubstantiated of course) to be worth looking into? -Celadon

Re: Case of stuff...

[(Anonymous)]

This, of course, isn't medical advice. You may find this long covid protocol from the Independent Medical Alliance (formerly FLCCC) of interest.
https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-recover-long-covid-treatment/

What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

[(Anonymous)]

This Wikipedia article [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N1] talks about the particular variety of bird flu that is resulting in the decimation of poultry flocks and householders' wallets worldwide (thanks for the heads-up on Frugal Friday! No I don't eat that many eggs.)

This A/H5N1 currently cannot easily jump to humans, but according to the article, one mutation would enable it to go human-to-human. And, it's supposed to be pretty virulent, with currently a 50% death rate in humans (when transmitted to the human from birds).

Your thoughts?

- Are the 50% who die of it the older, preexisting-condition, more vulnerable humans?
- If one were to catch this bird flu, what would be some good things one can eat/drink/take/do to get you through it? (For example, there's the assertion I've heard that zinc hinders the reproduction of viruses, thus would be good versus a Coronavirus infection)

Thanks, and thank you JMG for hosting this forum!

- Cicada Grove

Re: What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

[ecosophia]

Please note that nothing suggested on this forum should be considered medical advice in any form -- unless, that is, it's posted by a qualified health care provider. (For legal reasons, this is essential; people do jail time in the US for "practicing medicine without a license," which in effect means whatever the AMA wants it to mean.)

Flu

[(Anonymous)]

A coworker, who was out sick for most of last week told me yesterday that she and her family of four all had the flu. It knocked them all flat for the better part of the week. She was grateful they'd all had the flu shot, because she heard it would have been even worse if they hadn't had it. This same sickness has been passed around work. I don't know the flu shot status of the rest of my coworkers, but if I were to base it on their politics, I'd guess they are all flu shot fans. Somehow, despite not getting the flu shot, I have avoided catching what they're passing around. I better hope I don't get it, because if her science is right, I'll be even sicker than she was.

Re: Flu

[(Anonymous)]

In my experience you're better off getting the flu. That flu shot left me sick for 2 months instead of the two weeks flu usually runs. They can take their vaccines and put them where the sun doesn't shine.

Covid and medical advice

[(Anonymous)]

As our host mentioned one often has to preface any sort of commentary on medicine with an awkward legal disclaimer to prevent the AMA from coning after them. How did the AMA get this absurdly powerful? I know vaguely that the shift happened over the course of the first half of the 20th century, but are there any books or essays detailing what happened? As I understand it there used to be a lot more options for healthcare than the grim, largely ineffectual system we have now.

Cheers,
JZ

Re: Covid and medical advice

[(Anonymous)]

Since this is the age of Serous But Not Literal, it's useful to remember that the increasingly diminutive AMA would probably not be taking the initiative in any such inquisition. Things have changed a lot in 75 years.

The history of medical organization, education, and so on is interesting, and well-studied. Suffice it to say that, in the 19th century (and before), medical practice in the US was pretty unrestricted, unstandardized, untrained and at the best unreliable. For various reasons, there was a reform movement, part of which was an opposition to "quackery" (which began with movements against eg lye in medicines, or frequently lethal remedies), part of which was a reform of medical education, and part of which was certification of medical providers. And elimination of rivals. Again seriously but not literally, “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”

(A good, brief survey of much of this can be found in a couple of chapters of Randall Collins' The Credential Society.)

However, the key is this. No matter how sensible regulations may be in principle, they are a two-edged weapon. Once they are in place, they can be used by any number of people, who can put them to any number of uses, or abuses. One of these is to shut people up (or down, or out). Even a reasonable code of conduct, or statement of ethical principles, can be put to factional purposes. Once such a regulatory train has left the station, it can be very hard to turn around. People who are targeted by such complaints can be put to a great deal of trouble, and expense, to defend themselves, even against absurd charges. "The process is the punishment."

It's a matter of basic risk management to try to reduce one's vulnerability to attacks from ill-wishers. This is especially true for vulnerabilities that are marginal, or irrelevant, to what one is trying to do.

LeGrand

Meme

[(Anonymous)]

Just a note that the meme is not factual https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-419770959650

Re: Meme

[ecosophia]

It strikes me as dubious to place so much trust in corporate-media fact checkers, especially when -- as in this case -- the Times could have been facing a whale of a class action lawsuit from the parents of bullied children. Memory is fallible, but I do recall seeing live links to this op-ed piece being splashed around the internet in 2021.

[the_arcane_archivist]

https://nypost.com/2025/02/12/us-news/jd-vances-12-year-old-relative-denied-heart-transplant-because-she-is-unvaccinated/


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/jd-vances-distant-relative-denied-heart-transplant-as-shes-unvaccinated-knowing-what-we-know-/articleshow/118182332.cms

So there is this news of a child being denied transplant because she is unwaxxed... is this thing still a thing in 2025 US, or are they reporting something in the past?!?!

[(Anonymous)]

The new york post (1st article) is from today, and appears to be current. So yes, this is still a thing in the USA, and non-rare enough to happen to the young relative of a powerful politician.

pygmycory

Ecosophia Prayer List

[tunesmyth]

At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.

* * *
This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.

May Jennifer, who is now 38+ weeks into pregnancy with the baby still in breech position, have a safe and healthy pregnancy, may the delivery go smoothly, and may her baby be born healthy and blessed.

May Jack H's father John, whose aortic dissection is considered inoperable and likely fatal by his current doctors, be healed, and make a physical recovery to the full extent that providence allows, and be able to enjoy more time together with his loved ones.

May Goats and Roses' son A, who had a serious concussion weeks ago and is still suffering from the effects, regain normal healthy brain function, and rebuild his physical strength back to normal, and regain his zest for life. And may Goats and Roses be granted strength and effectiveness in finding solutions to the medical and caregiving matters that need to be addressed, and the grief and strain of the situation.

May Other Dave's father Michael Orwig, who has been in the hospital since 1/20 with almost complete liver failure and 20% kidney function, have found the strength to survive and thrive when he recently came off of his respirator, and may he be blessed with robust healing that allows him to regenerate his failing organs to the fullest extent that the universe allows; may his wife Allyn and the rest of his family be blessed and supported in this difficult time.

May Kevin’s sister Cynthia be cured of the hallucinations and delusions that have afflicted her, and freed from emotional distress. May she be safely healed of the physical condition that has provoked her emotions; and may she be healed of the spiritual condition that brings her to be so unsettled by it. May she come to feel calm and secure in her physical body, regardless of its level of health.

May Viktoria have a safe and healthy pregnancy, and may the baby be born safe, healthy and blessed. May Marko have the strength, wisdom and balance to face the challenges set before him. (picture)

May Linda from the Quest Bookshop of the Theosophical Society, who has developed a turbo cancer, be blessed and have a speedy and full recovery from cancer.

May Frank R. Hartman, who lost his house in the Altadena fire, and all who have been affected by the larger conflagration be blessed and healed.

May Corey Benton, who is currently in hospital and whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, be healed of throat cancer. He is not doing well, and consents to any kind of distance healing offered. [Note: Healing Hands should be fine, but if offering energy work which could potentially conflict with another, please first leave a note in comments or write to randomactsofkarmasc to double check that it's safe] (1/7)

May Open Space's friend's mother
Judith be blessed and healed for a complete recovery from cancer.

May Peter Van Erp's friend Kate Bowden's husband Russ Hobson and his family be enveloped with love as he follows his path forward with the glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has afflicted him.

May Scotlyn's friend Fiona, who has been in hospital since early October with what is a diagnosis of ovarian cancer, be blessed and healed, and encouraged in ways that help her to maintain a positive mental and spiritual outlook.

May Peter Evans in California, who has been diagnosed with colon cancer, be completely healed with ease, and make a rapid and total recovery.

May Jennifer and Josiah, their daughter Joanna, and their unborn daughter be protected from all harmful and malicious influences, and may any connection to malign entities or hostile thought forms or projections be broken and their influence banished.

* * *
Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

[(Anonymous)]

I can’t shake the idea that all the weirdness of the 2020 election and the whole covid thing was a regime change operation against Trump.
Gain of function research seems to be the most likely origin for the virus. And it spread at a very convenient time for a regime change operation.
Given that Tony Blinken was responsible for 51 “intelligence” operatives claim about the Biden laptop being Russian disinformation. And all the bogus charges of Trump being under the influence of the Russians that came from the folks who do regime change all over the world. It just seems to me that is what we experienced over the last 4 years was a coup by the national security state and the leaders of the Democratic party.

I know that it sounds crazy but given all the revelations about how the US government spends money it seems to make sense.
Can somebody point out what is wrong with that idea, and reassure me that I am just being paranoid?

dobbs

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure you're right. I thought so at the time.
The BLM protests, the election shenanigans, a trumped-up phony crisis, national suicide through unchecked migration, and more, all looked like a color revolution being carried out at home.

The only thing I would add is that it wasn't limited to the US. The operation included anti-populist reactions (i.e. attacks against the populace by the ruling class) in many other countries.

Squonk

[https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen]

There’s a mythical creature of the Eastern US named Lacrimacorpus dissolvens, common name Squonk, which it appears (to me at least) for decades has been in positions of power in and around Washington DC. Problem is for the squonk: it’s quite ugly and cannot stand to see itself in a mirror or pool of reflecting water, and once captured & restrained it dwindles into cries and sighs, eventually dissolving in a pool of tears.

Since the topic stream has been nibbling into music this week, I’d propose the 1976 Genesis song from the album “A Trick of The Tail”, Squonk, for the official ballad of the upcoming dissolving of Squonkish Democrats and Republicans as Trump and DOGE hunt them down, put them in sacks, and we all gently watch them… dissolve.

Song: https://youtu.be/xmUSL1njm84

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Genesis-squonk-lyrics

The Squonkish wailing is increasing, due at least in part to the promised release of formerly-secret documents regarding:
* assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK
* 9/11
* UFOs
* Jeffrey Epstein files including the client list
* Most-relevant to this blog: Covid-19 origin

I would hope the Covid investigation goes deeper, not just into its origin but into the propagation of the entire demented psy-op, including masks, 6-ft floor dots, mandatory mRNA injections, school closures, firings, and miscellaneous countless insanities.

Floor dots, hah! I harvested two more just a couple of weeks ago from the lobby of a motel in Davis, California; see my ‘kill’ photo at: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8ZBB6WoaJf7aVEFn9

Re: Squonk

[temporaryreality]

Are squonks the adult form of (policy)wonks?

And…Wait, you were in Davis? Let me know if you pass through again, I live ~15 minutes away :)

RFK Jr

[(Anonymous)]

Kennedy is approved

Yes!

[(Anonymous)]

This is good, methinks.

RFK confirmed!

[(Anonymous)]

Finally, RFK jr has been confirmed by the Senate. Of course all Democrats and ueber RINO Mitch McConnel voted against. I can't wait to see what this will bring. We've been waiting for some breakthoughs way too long...

Re: RFK confirmed!

[deathcap]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Happy birthday to meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[(Anonymous)]

JMG, it took me a long time to get to the site today, and one time it showed me an error message.

i had never seen this particular error, and i dont know how common it is, but i looked it up and found an explanation.. and i thought it might amuse you:

What is Guru Meditation ?

https://auryo.com/what-is-guru-meditation/

[the_arcane_archivist]

These things are coming more often. DW is a pretty good platform. But there are a lot of issues in corporate clouds and environments these days.

But DW fails to from time to time and MAYBE at some point even lose data. that's why I decided to do the archives to begin with.

[tritumi]

Much of this discussion reminds me of the course my life has taken and why I am an expatriate for better or worse.

[temporaryreality]

Per Market Ticker’s “dark” website, here’s one more reason to a) divorce the medical system and b) start decoupling every other aspect of life from digital/online virtual world: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2025-01/fact-sheet-contec-cms8000-contains-a-backdoor-508c.pdf

A widely used medical monitor made in China has a back door for Chinese access.

Gotta wonder (yet again) how much of what modern US society relies on is vulnerable to intrusion, disruption, etc from hostile actors, not just internal fraud and upcoming resource reallocation….

Fertility

[boccaccio]

A few weeks back I calculated that the mRNA vaxx seems to diminish fertility by 36%. I just came across a study that shows a massive increase in medical complications when women were vaxxed during pregnancy. I'll quote a summary of the study I found on X

Peer-Reviewed Study Identifies Serious Safety Signals for 37 Adverse Events Following COVID-19 'Vaccination' in Pregnant Women🛑

CDC/FDA safety thresholds breached for miscarriage, stillbirth, premature infant death, fetal cardiac arrest, neonatal respiratory distress, fetal malformations, and many more.

📊 Highest Proportional Reporting Ratios (PRR) (COVID-19 v. Other Vaccines & Influenza Vaccines) – A PRR ≥2 is a CDC/FDA safety signal 🚨

⚠️ Placental Insufficiency – PRR = 499 (499x more frequent) (Severe placental dysfunction, restricting oxygen/nutrients to the baby)

💨 Neonatal Respiratory Distress – PRR = 134 (134x more frequent) (Newborns struggling to breathe, requiring urgent medical care)

💔 Premature Infant Death – PRR = 124 (124x more frequent) (Sharp rise in newborn deaths following preterm birth)

❤️ Fetal Cardiac Arrest – PRR = 108 (108x more frequent) (Baby’s heart stopping before birth, life-threatening)

🩸 Hemorrhage in Pregnancy – PRR = 67.6 (68x more frequent) (Excessive bleeding during pregnancy, endangering mother & baby)

🧬 Fetal Malformation – PRR = 51.5 (52x more frequent) (Congenital abnormalities affecting baby’s development)

⚠️ Miscarriage – PRR = 38.4 (38x more frequent) (Significant increase in pregnancy loss before 20 weeks)

⚰️ Stillbirth – PRR = 28.1 (28x more frequent) (Late-term fetal death, a devastating pregnancy outcome)

On average, adverse pregnancy events were reported 69.2 times more frequently (PRR = 69.2) after COVID-19 ‘vaccination’ compared to other vaccines, with some events occurring nearly 499 times more often (PRR = 499). The CDC/FDA define a safety concern as a PRR of ≥2, meaning these findings far exceed the established threshold for risk. Additionally, the mean z-score of 9.64 (where statistical significance begins at 1.96) and the mean Chi-square of 74.7 (compared to the safety threshold of 4) indicate that these results are highly statistically significant and unlikely due to chance.

This consitutes a *massive* safety signal, more than 30 times the minimum level for such signal.

The study itself can be found here https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/are-covid-19-vaccines-in-pregnancy-as-safe-and-effective-as-the-medical-industrial-complex-claim-part-i/

Re: Fertility

[fredsmith11]

Personally, I believe that the vax was a depopulation bioweapon experiment, given the DoD was running the show (Operation Warpspeed). Hence the batch variability, with some very high kill rates in certain batches.

We should also note the weaponised propaganda trial run.

ALL safety signals were deliberately ignored, because it wasn't a vax as we previously considered them to be.

Birth rates are down in heavily vaxxed countries, but they were falling anyway and one thing COVID and the vax did was magnify the war between the sexes i.e. liberal women vs conservative men. Thus fewer people are forming relationships and procreating.

My estimate is overall the ideological battle between the sexes is having a greater effect on birthrates than the vax.

official MAHA commission

[charlieobert]

I saw this on Robert Malone's substack - this is from the official White House site:

The Make America Healthy Commission.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-establishes-the-make-america-healthy-again-commission/

It's worth reading. He's saying some things officially and out loud here.

quote:

"Americans have lost trust in our health system, skeptical as to whether they are receiving honest answers about the causes of the country’s health crisis and how to improve it.

Only a third of Americans trust the U.S. health system, a near-record low."

And, one of the four main directives:

"Ensure expanded treatment options and health coverage flexibility for beneficial lifestyle changes and disease prevention."

That's vague and open-ended, but pointing in the right direction.

Re: official MAHA commission

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm: why no Covid Vaccines Massacre Commission?

All distraction.

[athaia]

I'm reading this open post and fail-fandom anon's US politics post side by side, and the whiplash is indescribable.

RKFJR

[(Anonymous)]

Any thoughts from folks on what RKF may be able to realistically do in his new position?

Re: RKFJR

[(Anonymous)]

It would seem that RFK had something to do with this:


######
Breaking: Trump to Strip Federal Funding From Schools That Mandate COVID Vaccines
President Donald Trump signed an executive order to defund schools, universities and other education agencies that require COVID-19 vaccines for students and staff. The order directs HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the secretary of Education to create a plan to end the mandates.
by Brenda Baletti, Ph.D.
FEBRUARY 14, 2025
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/trump-executive-order-defund-schools-covid-vaccine-mandates/

######


My further comment: there was plenty of mass formation psychosis going on when it came to imposing the mandates (I know because I witnessed it myself) but for many institutions the mandates were simply a function of federal funding. Under Biden it was, mandate the covid jabs or we cut your funding. Now it looks like under Trump it's going to be do NOT mandate the covid jabs or we cut your finding. The gravy train takes a different track accordingly.

Also, for starters I think RFK is going to get VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) up to speed. One way to do that is to simply enforce the law that's already there, that medical providers MUST report adverse events.

[(Anonymous)]

Top NIH official during COVID-19 — who admitted agency funded gain-of-function research in China — resigns

https://nypost.com/2025/02/13/us-news/nih-principal-deputy-director-lawrence-tabak-who-led-agency-during-covid-abruptly-resigns/

ive seen so many ppl stepping down.. not only
medical ppl but all sorts.

[(Anonymous)]

Here is a link to a very sobering video in support of CodysLaw.org and all those injured by the vaxx.

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/lament-of-the-vaxx-injured-video

It's very moving and read by a young man who has, himself, been injured.

Liam in Toronto

[(Anonymous)]

A BIG win in Canada!

Rebel News here in Canada has just made this post:

"After nearly four years of relentless attacks against Dr. Charles Hoffe, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia is backing down.

. . . Dr. Hoffe faced years of professional persecution for raising concerns about COVID-19 vaccine injuries. His willingness to speak out led to the college filing professional misconduct charges against him and threatening to revoke his medical licence.

But last week, they unexpectedly decided to DROP the case!"

Apparently, the College is citing "materially changed" circumstances around the COVID "emergency" but there is much skepticism. I wonder why!

A win is a win although it does nothing to compensate Dr. Hoffe for all the distress this case must have cost him.

Liam in Toronto

[(Anonymous)]

Indeed, this is wonderful news, Liam.
Let's celebrate the 'wins' whenever we can!

Ron M

[the_arcane_archivist]

This thing gives me hope, even if it is across the ocean, if this is done in US this will impact the whole world.

https://www.aol.com/trump-says-something-really-wrong-155547924.html