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bullies, all of themWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2025-02-11 03:58 pm (UTC)
wolf_wobo: A Dog (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolf_wobo
That music sounds interesting. More info please?

~Wolf

Re: ???

Date: 2025-02-11 08:03 pm (UTC)
wolf_wobo: A Dog (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolf_wobo
That is Yes?! I STILL have and occasionally enjoy 90125.

Have to look through my collection.


Just looked. They put out an album in 2023: Mirror to the Sky

~Wolf
Edited Date: 2025-02-11 08:06 pm (UTC)

Re: ???

Date: 2025-02-11 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
~Wolf, just "leave it:.



ha ha haha

Yes is a great band, and that was a great album!

Re: ???

Date: 2025-02-12 02:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was introduced to “Yes” via their song “Roundabout”, which I first heard from season 1 and 2 of “Jojo’s bizarre adventure” where it was used as the outro at the end of each episode.

J.L.Mc12

Re: ???

Date: 2025-02-12 03:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, man, what a blast from the past. Sometimes I don't know which I loved the most about albums in the '70s -- the music or the cover art. What a fine time to grow up absorbing all those amazingly stunning visual images.

Ron M

Re: ???

Date: 2025-02-12 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] slinky_weasel
Yes, yes, Yes! I grew up on, and love all those albums, maybe especially TOTO. My most recent one, "Union" (probably 20-years old) didn't grab me at first, but it's grown on me. I suppose thta's sort of true for all their albums. Maybe not Tormoto.

Re: Roger Dean

Date: 2025-02-12 04:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I love Roger Dean’s work. But now it’s out of fashion. Why does the best fall out of favor while inferior stuff becomes more popular?

There’s a fairly recent interview in which Dean sketches out the story that back in the day FDR and Rockefeller got together and decided that Abstract Expressionism and Modernism more generally would be promoted as ideological opposition to Soviet cultural influence - viz., that art would be in effect a political tool. So the Rockefeller influence on the arts would seem to operate in a somewhat similar way to Rockefeller medicine, in both cases with calamitous effect.

Re: ???

Date: 2025-02-13 01:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
ok, so... (I Love that) i have now secured the ENTIRE discography for Yes. Current circumstances (long story) do no allow me to listen to them now but i will be investigating OLDER Yes.

I guess you old farts are good for something :-)

~Wolf

News: Satire writers out of job

Date: 2025-02-11 05:31 pm (UTC)
vitranc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] vitranc
Well I noticed this today:
The American Prospect: What Trump Could Learn From Hitler on NIH Funding

So this ticks off three major predictions of this forum:
- ADR: "this days being a satire writer is the hardest job in the world. The reality is weirder then the comedians"
- Wagner posts: "the way to bring intelligentsia in line is to cut funding"
- Ecosophia (main): "what you contemplate you imitate"

Re: News: Satire writers out of job

Date: 2025-02-11 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes indeed. And here's Jeff Childers' take on it from today's Coffee and Covid post entitled Heil Slurpy - https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/heil-slurpy-tuesday-february-11-2025

"The last thing the biomedical research community needs right now is a friend like The American Prospect tying NIH funding to Third Reich science policy. Talk about a PR nightmare."

Re: News: Satire writers out of job

Date: 2025-02-11 08:25 pm (UTC)
vitranc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] vitranc
Well I certainly hope I was able to solve that grumpy mood. :-)

Re: News: Satire writers out of job

Date: 2025-02-11 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] coyote_girl
I think he would have done better arguing that the King in Orange should be a tea totaling vegetarian.

He only went on about the total dollars for pork barrel R&D, not what it was used for. I would be happy not to see a dime go to another operation warp speed or torturing beagles. Never mind that even for the useful grants it's about socializing the costs and privatizing the profits.

Think he's feeding at that same trough much?

Re: News: Satire writers out of job

Date: 2025-02-11 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oooooo, you commented in "The Man With The Moustache" [https://www.ecosophia.net/the-man-with-the-moustache/] on the possibility that all the Nazi-haters could flip and turn into Nazis.

Does this mean it's starting?

- Cicada Grove

Re: News: Satire writers out of job

Date: 2025-02-13 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wow, they killed the whole site to hide that one! (Prospect.org is redirecting to a holding page as of this comment.)
Pity it was already archived-- for anyone who didn't see this soon enough:
http://web.archive.org/web/20250210194339/https://prospect.org/politics/2025-02-10-what-trump-could-learn-from-hitler-on-nih-funding/

On the subject of Meghan McCain

Date: 2025-02-11 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There is a platform called 2Way that Mark Halperin started. He recently added Meghan McCain to his lineup of commentators. I understand that both of these people are deep state hacks or wannabe deep state hacks who got cancelled and so have an axe to grind. But this week Meghan McCain got on at about 1 minute 15 seconds on this link and talked about how she will never forgive or forget what the Democrats and the govt. did over Covid. She particularly focuses on the vaccine mandate. So far, Youtube has not censored. Progress?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=530Lk2BIi_M

Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-11 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Anyone know of anything that could help make long Covid more bearable? I know pine needle tea is a possible resource. If conventional docs tell you they don't know they've done all they can, seems a drag. What is rumored (unsubstantiated of course) to be worth looking into? -Celadon

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 12:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This, of course, isn't medical advice. You may find this long covid protocol from the Independent Medical Alliance (formerly FLCCC) of interest.
https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-recover-long-covid-treatment/

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 12:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's hard to go wrong with Vitamin D. My doctor suggested 2000 I.U. per day, and I can't recall having a serious illnes in years. ("Vitamin D suppresses unpleasant memories"? ;-) ) It's very inexpensive, safe (in moderate quantities, of course), and most adults are measurably deficient (especially those tested in the hospital). See Dr. John Campbell (UK) on YouTube for more info. (He does not sell it, BTW.)

Lathechuck

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mysteries_abound

The FLCCC has been rebranded to the Independent Medical Alliance. They have lots of great information about all kinds of things, including the use of repurposed drugs to treat cancer. For your purposes, however, I'd try this resource they produced while it was still FLCCC. Very informative.

https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-recover-long-covid-treatment/

Hope you feel better soon.

MJ from MA

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 03:45 am (UTC)
kallianeira: (burnt creek bank)
From: [personal profile] kallianeira

OK Celadon, this is information I have collated from positive mentions on this forum over the last few months. Much of it may have originated from the FLCCC/IMA.

I have not tried it for long covid myself and am not saying it will work for you, though naturally I hope you soon find something that does!

These are the rumours:
Spike protein detox — Remedies that can help inhibit, neutralize and eliminate spike protein include Prunella vulgaris, pine needle tea, emodin, neem, dandelion extract and ivermectin. Dr. Pierre Kory believes ivermectin may be the best approach to bind the circulating spike protein.

Spike protein neutralizers, which prevent the spike from damaging cells, include N-acetylcysteine (NAC), glutathione, fennel tea, star anise tea, pine needle tea, St John’s wort, comfrey tea and vitamin C.

Further possible resources are
nattokinase
lumbrokinase
lactoferrin with benadryl (are synergistic used together)
methylene blue
nicotine patch + black seed oil, with St John’s wort as needed

iridescent scintillating elver


Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 04:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Data point of one, and YMMV...

In fall of 2020 I got a bug that I assumed was coronavirus, got over it in about 2-1/2 weeks, and thought I was done with it. Then I discovered that, apparently, the connective tissue in my body was somehow trashed. Sprained my back in two places from ridiculously trivial moves, and couldn't wear my glasses without a pad anymore because the skin of my nose collapsed under the nose pieces-- and hurt.

A couple years later, I got another bout of coronavirus, and slammed it with repeated doses of VIM ("Vitamin I" ;) ). Not only was this bout of coronavirus chased off, but my tendon/skin etc woes largely went away too. Again, not advice, just my personal experience.

Here's a series of comment threads where people were talking about VIM:

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/141510.html?thread=17286086#cmt17286086
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/142620.html?thread=17522204#cmt17522204
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/143726.html?thread=17764974#cmt17764974
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/147464.html?thread=18992136#cmt18992136
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/149639.html?thread=19246471#cmt19246471
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/151880.html?thread=19813960#cmt19813960
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/159009.html?thread=22186529#cmt22186529
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/166623.html?thread=24994783#cmt24994783

This oughtta keep you busy! :D

- Cicada Grove

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
I see a lot of people with bad skin lately and limping... never seen anything like this before.

Too bad that there is no natural equivalent.

B17 Vitamin has not the same problem.
Edited Date: 2025-02-12 06:19 pm (UTC)

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-13 10:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Shedding is real. Careful who you associate with.

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 08:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Consider contacting these people, for the "Moxa-Long-Covid 100 Days Challenge": https://www.moxafrica.org/

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks for everyone's help. The conventional doctors shrug at my friend, who is falling apart. Celadon

Re: Case of stuff...

Date: 2025-02-12 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There has been a clinical study using a non-pharmaceutical approach to treating Long-Covid which has shown promising results.

https://www.rebeccatolin.com/blog/long-covid-study

Might be worth a look.

What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

Date: 2025-02-11 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This Wikipedia article [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H5N1] talks about the particular variety of bird flu that is resulting in the decimation of poultry flocks and householders' wallets worldwide (thanks for the heads-up on Frugal Friday! No I don't eat that many eggs.)

This A/H5N1 currently cannot easily jump to humans, but according to the article, one mutation would enable it to go human-to-human. And, it's supposed to be pretty virulent, with currently a 50% death rate in humans (when transmitted to the human from birds).

Your thoughts?

- Are the 50% who die of it the older, preexisting-condition, more vulnerable humans?
- If one were to catch this bird flu, what would be some good things one can eat/drink/take/do to get you through it? (For example, there's the assertion I've heard that zinc hinders the reproduction of viruses, thus would be good versus a Coronavirus infection)

Thanks, and thank you JMG for hosting this forum!

- Cicada Grove

Re: What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

Date: 2025-02-12 08:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For reliable information on any vaccines, I recommend the National Vaccination Information Center: https://www.nvic.org/

Re: What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

Date: 2025-02-12 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The CASE fatality rate for bird flu strains in the past had been 50%. (The infection fatality rate would have been lower because less severe cases were less likely to be diagnosed.) However, we've now had over 50 cases of bird flu in the US and only one death, for a fatality rate under 2%.

Caveats: 1. This is a rich country, most victims aren't malnourished. 2. Many cases seem to be people who got it by splashed milk from infected cows or airborne virus contacting the eyes rather than being inhaled, so they got mostly conjunctivitis. If it started spreading human to human by breathing it would be getting into the lungs and might be more dangerous. 3. Most cases have been people working with animals, so not children or the elderly; a Canadian child spent weeks in the ICU.

Still, it's clear that this strain is not as dangerous so far as past strains.

As a matter of historical information, a large clinical trial was published that compared a European elderberry and echinacea product to Tamiflu in influenza patients and found that the former was as good, and much safer.

Re: What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

Date: 2025-02-12 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Elderberry and echinacea tea is delicious with honey and, as I have found with very careful scientific experiment, brandy.

Re: What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

Date: 2025-02-13 04:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What I get for reading Wikipedia!

Thanks a lot, this is reassuring.
I'll just keep my chicken soup supply topped up.
(Comfort food! Not medical advice!)

- Cicada Grove

Re: What about Bird Flu N5N1, really?

Date: 2025-02-12 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dendroica
Fatality rates have a denominator problem, particularly when dealing with a new bug that doesn't show up on standard diagnostic tests (or that is readily confused with other common illnesses).

I remember when covid had a fatality rate of 17% in the early days. If you only test folks in the ICU, then it looks that way. As testing ramped up, the fatality rate kept creeping downward until it was well under 1%.

It's hard to say where this might end up relative to covid if it evolves to readily transmit between humans and starting in the lungs. Likely - as is the case with other flu strains - it will be more of risk to children than covid is/was. But I think it's safe to assume that the actual infection fatality rate will be far lower than 50%.

Flu

Date: 2025-02-11 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A coworker, who was out sick for most of last week told me yesterday that she and her family of four all had the flu. It knocked them all flat for the better part of the week. She was grateful they'd all had the flu shot, because she heard it would have been even worse if they hadn't had it. This same sickness has been passed around work. I don't know the flu shot status of the rest of my coworkers, but if I were to base it on their politics, I'd guess they are all flu shot fans. Somehow, despite not getting the flu shot, I have avoided catching what they're passing around. I better hope I don't get it, because if her science is right, I'll be even sicker than she was.

Re: Flu

Date: 2025-02-12 12:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In my experience you're better off getting the flu. That flu shot left me sick for 2 months instead of the two weeks flu usually runs. They can take their vaccines and put them where the sun doesn't shine.

Re: Flu

Date: 2025-02-12 01:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In case you feel like a deep dive into vaccines, A Midwestern Doctor wrote a piece entitled "What are the Pros and Cons of Each Type of Vaccine?" - https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-each

Yes, part of it is behind their paywall.

Re: Flu

Date: 2025-02-12 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So funny. The will never ever click about the reality of flu shots........

Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 12:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As our host mentioned one often has to preface any sort of commentary on medicine with an awkward legal disclaimer to prevent the AMA from coning after them. How did the AMA get this absurdly powerful? I know vaguely that the shift happened over the course of the first half of the 20th century, but are there any books or essays detailing what happened? As I understand it there used to be a lot more options for healthcare than the grim, largely ineffectual system we have now.

Cheers,
JZ

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 03:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Since this is the age of Serous But Not Literal, it's useful to remember that the increasingly diminutive AMA would probably not be taking the initiative in any such inquisition. Things have changed a lot in 75 years.

The history of medical organization, education, and so on is interesting, and well-studied. Suffice it to say that, in the 19th century (and before), medical practice in the US was pretty unrestricted, unstandardized, untrained and at the best unreliable. For various reasons, there was a reform movement, part of which was an opposition to "quackery" (which began with movements against eg lye in medicines, or frequently lethal remedies), part of which was a reform of medical education, and part of which was certification of medical providers. And elimination of rivals. Again seriously but not literally, “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”

(A good, brief survey of much of this can be found in a couple of chapters of Randall Collins' The Credential Society.)

However, the key is this. No matter how sensible regulations may be in principle, they are a two-edged weapon. Once they are in place, they can be used by any number of people, who can put them to any number of uses, or abuses. One of these is to shut people up (or down, or out). Even a reasonable code of conduct, or statement of ethical principles, can be put to factional purposes. Once such a regulatory train has left the station, it can be very hard to turn around. People who are targeted by such complaints can be put to a great deal of trouble, and expense, to defend themselves, even against absurd charges. "The process is the punishment."

It's a matter of basic risk management to try to reduce one's vulnerability to attacks from ill-wishers. This is especially true for vulnerabilities that are marginal, or irrelevant, to what one is trying to do.

LeGrand








Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 05:02 pm (UTC)
tunesmyth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
This is fascinating. I truly hope that enough swamp gets drained that this kind of pressure on the little guys might be put on the back foot for a little while.

Do you ever consider banging the Peak Oil drum again at least once in a while? I know you felt that you said everything you wanted to say, but by this point a new generation could really use hearing it, too. Yours was always the voice on the matter I consistently found most sensible-- I showed up at a time that all the magic and mysticism stuff was mostly on the back burner, so by the time "Blood of the Earth" hit you already had enough cred with me to start at least considering the merits of the other stuff.

Also now that "drill baby drill", as well as "build nuclear build" seem to be the energy mantras of Trump 2.0, I'd love to get your Peak Oil OG perspective in a long form essay or seven. Maybe just me :-)

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 06:18 pm (UTC)
tunesmyth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
The most entertaining resounding NO I've received in some time!

Ok then, perhaps I'll try again in a few more years...

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-13 01:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's a very, very interesting story! How easy it would have been to just have said, "look, here's what I suggest", without even thinking about it. As a matter of fact it's hard to believe that's illegal, between friends. One would think the law - even if you agree with it - would come with a clause like, it only applies if money is exchanged.

-Bofur

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-13 04:58 pm (UTC)
claire_58: (Default)
From: [personal profile] claire_58
"One would think the law . . ." was interested in justice.

Unfortunately that particular law is intended to defend a monopoly.

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-16 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Our great-grandparents were correct though - all along. Those doctors, they're all quacks. Do not trust them.

Everything else is just noise or the quacks objecting to being outed.

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 04:21 am (UTC)
kallianeira: (burnt creek bank)
From: [personal profile] kallianeira

Try this site: educate-yourself.org
eg the article on Ruth Drown and passim in other articles about healers or methods who were challenged or their practices shut down
in particular as a summary
https://educate-yourself.org/fc/

iridescent scintillating elver

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Blame the Carnegie-funded Flexner report of 1910. This report claimed to prescribe means of improving America's often shockingly poor medical education system. But it just happened to recommend closing down all non-allopathic medical schools, crushing several modalities. Allopathic medical schools were ordered to remove classes like naturopathy from their curricula or lose accreditation. Likewise, an increase in state boards' power to serve as gatekeepers was called for; they could then refuse to license the incompetent, but also the dissenting.

An explicit goal and outcome was to greatly reduce the number of medical schools - and thereby graduates, which reduced competition. The report intentionally forced the closure of all but two Black medical schools, and demanded that the few Blacks who would still be allowed medical training at those two should be treated as inferiors, allowed to become only "sanitarians" and not surgeons, and allowed to treat only Blacks. Opportunities for women were also constricted, due to the far smaller number of places available and the announcement of Flexner that women didn't really want to go to med school and were only good at pediatrics and the like anyway.

On the more specific topic, it's legal to talk about alternative treatments as long as you aren't getting paid to prescribe, or giving explicit medical "advice" to individual people. JMG is old enough to remember when armed Food and Drug Administration employees would raid herb stores and confiscate books about herbalism, claiming that selling the book under the same roof as the herbs equated to putting disease claims on the herbs, making them misbranded drugs. This is of course a ridiculous legal argument and it hasn't been tried in decades. With the dangerous gibberish that gets spouted on the internet without punishment, nobody these days needs to fear making truthful statements about alternatives, certainly if they're not selling anything. But corporate power is on the rise, so I'd better include some caveat: PROBABLY.

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That is a delicious image, armed police seizing herbals!

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 05:27 pm (UTC)
scotlyn: a sunlit pathway to the valley (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
There was a time when "practicing medicine without a licence" was an offence actually prosecuted by the AMA.

However, in recent years, practicing medicine without a licence is an offence actually committed, with perfect impunity, by civil servants (such as those working in agencies such as FDA, CDC and WHO), by pharmacists (such as all those who refused to fill legal prescriptions written by licenced doctors) and by insurance companiesNGO/Pharma joint boards who set the legal "standards of care" against which a licenced doctor's clinical practice can be evaluated and found wanting. ie - all of these entities who ensure that those practicing medicine WITH a licence conform to the pharma-profiteering model in their practices.

And yet, "practicing medicine without a licence" - per the old AMA definition - remains an arrow in the quiver of offences still used to shut down non-Pharma-type medical approaches as and when needed... (See JMG's story, also in this thread).

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-12 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The 1910 Flexner report trashed a lot of complementary medicine in the US and set up the AMA's dominance. These links look interesting at first glance.
https://daily.jstor.org/the-1910-report-that-unintentionally-disadvantaged-minority-doctors/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3543812/

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-13 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That "unintentional" disadvantage continued into the 2000s at least.

Wonderful local doctor here became one of the first test cases for prosecutions of doctors for prescribing pain meds. Evidence was shoddy and stupid: the doctor was one of the only ones in town who would accept destitute minority medicaid patients. Unsurprisingly, some of them were addicts, and two died of overdose. It was never proven that the OD was solely the result of prescriptions issued by the doc in question: it is likely they were supplementing their intake from other sources.

The man was railroaded through the courts, and ultimately died in prison. He was an easy target because he was black. My parents spoke at his funeral: doc had literally saved my dad's life, when other box-ticking hospital staff would have left him to die (internal bleeding after a wreck) because their insurance forms hadn't been filled out yet.

They figured they might be the only ones outside the family, who were there to put in a good word for the man, so it was important to go. Once there, they found themselves part of a rather large group of people telling very similar stories: I wouldn't be alive today except Doc looked at my chart and saw that I was on an unsafe combo of meds. I would have died ten years ago if Doc hadn't intervened and had my kidneys checked. Etc.

Unfortunately, this also made him unpopular with other docs working hospital rounds, because he made them look bad by countermanding their orders, when those orders were not helping the patient. None of them cared to testify on his behalf in court.

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-13 01:23 am (UTC)
temporaryreality: (Default)
From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
Somewhere here, (https://www.swsbm.com/HOMEPAGE/HomePage.html) and I cannot for the life of me remember where exactly, Michael Moore introduces a book by or about the eclectic doctors with a summary of the times, as the AMA was gaining power and the homeopaths and eclectics were still a going concern but about to be quashed... I can only sorta point the way, but wish you luck in finding it if you decide to seek it there.

Re: Covid and medical advice

Date: 2025-02-13 04:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This dovetails with what you've said elsewhere/when, JMG, about the PMC (Professional/Managerial Class, AKA Pointy-Haired Managers) taking over rulership of America. Over the course of the 20th century, especially after WWII, locking out all the colorful interesting (and useful, and affordable) things in life and turning America into a cardboard cutout primary-colored simpleminded middle manager's idea of "paradise".
Rather like that amusement park "Oblivia":

1) Herky-jerky colored things jumping around on a screen with music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um7pMggPnug

2) The lyrics to the thing: https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katyperry/chainedtotherhythm.html

- Cicada Grove

Meme

Date: 2025-02-12 06:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just a note that the meme is not factual https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-419770959650

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-12 04:20 pm (UTC)
charlieobert: (Default)
From: [personal profile] charlieobert
I wondered about that, and one of the debunk articles was on apnews. If you go to apnews.com, it now has a big red DONATE button in the upper right, with the caption "Support independent, fact-based journalism".

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-12 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] weilong
Makes me wonder who would be getting that donation.
I mean, I would assume it's not the AP.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-13 02:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think we are looking at a case of first-rate case of memory-holing here. There was a quite a bit of it going on a few years ago. Either the article and it's headline was stealthily edited to read something less egregious, or the article itself was scrubbed out of existence completely. I was not able to find a copy in any of the usual archive sites. I am guessing that the scrubbing was thorough to avoid lawsuits of the type you mention.

Looking at the skeletons tumbling out on the government-media nexus, I wouldn't trust the fact-checkers either.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-13 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It so happens that I distinctly recall that disgusting headline. I guess fact-checker bots come in handy for historical revision.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-16 04:29 pm (UTC)
transcriberb: (Default)
From: [personal profile] transcriberb
I recall many things said by NYT readers in my circles at the time. These once apparently lovely people thought that bullying the unvaxxed, whether little kids or adults, was fine, more than fine, it was very much called for. Deny them school, deny them the chance to work, deny them travel, deny them whatever you can— make them suffer, suffer, suffer horribly for their impiety in refusing the "safe and effective" experimental gene jabs!

I will never forget the things that I heard with my own ears— and some of the worst of it from one of my own relatives, a public school teacher.

For this reason, although I did not see that NYT article at the time, I do not have a problem believing that that article did appear and that now, now that the climate is a-changin', the NYT has done its utmost to bury it.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-12 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anonymoose_canadian
I read the article at the time. It was real, and frankly I'm not surprised that the NYTimes is trying to pretend it never happened, but we should not let them get away with rewriting history like this.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-13 12:03 pm (UTC)
charlieobert: (Default)
From: [personal profile] charlieobert
This is mind-boggling. I give more weight to your comment under a pseudonym than I do to the combined records of media elsewhere on the internet - even more than "independent, fact-based journalism" sites like apnews.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-16 04:30 pm (UTC)
transcriberb: (Default)
From: [personal profile] transcriberb
Same.

Re: Meme

Date: 2025-02-13 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Newspaper of record, my a$$

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-12 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The new york post (1st article) is from today, and appears to be current. So yes, this is still a thing in the USA, and non-rare enough to happen to the young relative of a powerful politician.

pygmycory

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-12 06:22 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
This is what I kept talking, looks to me that all those "victories" of unwaxxed that they had with justice, were corner cases who knows where...

And still we have things like this one, which is pretty bad, working in background even with the spotlight of media. And where the vice president of US has to put a spotlight on it.
Edited Date: 2025-02-12 07:57 pm (UTC)

Ecosophia Prayer List

Date: 2025-02-12 04:50 pm (UTC)
tunesmyth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tunesmyth
At this link is the full list of all of the requests for prayer that have recently appeared at ecosophia.net and ecosophia.dreamwidth.org, as well as in the comments of the prayer list posts. Please feel free to add any or all of the requests to your own prayers.

If I missed anybody, or if you would like to add a prayer request for yourself or anyone who has given you consent (or for whom a relevant person holds power of consent) to the list, please feel free to leave a comment below and/or in the comments at the current prayer list post.

* * *

This week I would like to bring special attention to the following prayer requests.


May Jennifer, who is now 38+ weeks into pregnancy with the baby still in breech position, have a safe and healthy pregnancy, may the delivery go smoothly, and may her baby be born healthy and blessed.

May Jack H's father John, whose aortic dissection is considered inoperable and likely fatal by his current doctors, be healed, and make a physical recovery to the full extent that providence allows, and be able to enjoy more time together with his loved ones.

May Goats and Roses' son A, who had a serious concussion weeks ago and is still suffering from the effects, regain normal healthy brain function, and rebuild his physical strength back to normal, and regain his zest for life. And may Goats and Roses be granted strength and effectiveness in finding solutions to the medical and caregiving matters that need to be addressed, and the grief and strain of the situation.

May Other Dave's father Michael Orwig, who has been in the hospital since 1/20 with almost complete liver failure and 20% kidney function, have found the strength to survive and thrive when he recently came off of his respirator, and may he be blessed with robust healing that allows him to regenerate his failing organs to the fullest extent that the universe allows; may his wife Allyn and the rest of his family be blessed and supported in this difficult time.

May Kevin’s sister Cynthia be cured of the hallucinations and delusions that have afflicted her, and freed from emotional distress. May she be safely healed of the physical condition that has provoked her emotions; and may she be healed of the spiritual condition that brings her to be so unsettled by it. May she come to feel calm and secure in her physical body, regardless of its level of health.

May Viktoria have a safe and healthy pregnancy, and may the baby be born safe, healthy and blessed. May Marko have the strength, wisdom and balance to face the challenges set before him. (picture)

May Linda from the Quest Bookshop of the Theosophical Society, who has developed a turbo cancer, be blessed and have a speedy and full recovery from cancer.

May Frank R. Hartman, who lost his house in the Altadena fire, and all who have been affected by the larger conflagration be blessed and healed.

May Corey Benton, who is currently in hospital and whose throat tumor has grown around an artery and won't be treated surgically, be healed of throat cancer. He is not doing well, and consents to any kind of distance healing offered. [Note: Healing Hands should be fine, but if offering energy work which could potentially conflict with another, please first leave a note in comments or write to randomactsofkarmasc to double check that it's safe] (1/7)

May Open Space's friend's mother
Judith
be blessed and healed for a complete recovery from cancer.

May Peter Van Erp's friend Kate Bowden's husband Russ Hobson and his family be enveloped with love as he follows his path forward with the glioblastoma (brain cancer) which has afflicted him.

May Scotlyn's friend Fiona, who has been in hospital since early October with what is a diagnosis of ovarian cancer, be blessed and healed, and encouraged in ways that help her to maintain a positive mental and spiritual outlook.

May Peter Evans in California, who has been diagnosed with colon cancer, be completely healed with ease, and make a rapid and total recovery.

May Jennifer and Josiah, their daughter Joanna, and their unborn daughter be protected from all harmful and malicious influences, and may any connection to malign entities or hostile thought forms or projections be broken and their influence banished.



* * *

Guidelines for how long prayer requests stay on the list, how to word requests, how to be added to the weekly email list, how to improve the chances of your prayer being answered, and several other common questions and issues, are to be found at the Ecosophia Prayer List FAQ.

If there are any among you who might wish to join me in a bit of astrological timing, I pray each week for the health of all those with health problems on the list on the astrological hour of the Sun on Sundays, bearing in mind the Sun's rulerships of heart, brain, and vital energies. If this appeals to you, I invite you to join me.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-12 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I can’t shake the idea that all the weirdness of the 2020 election and the whole covid thing was a regime change operation against Trump.
Gain of function research seems to be the most likely origin for the virus. And it spread at a very convenient time for a regime change operation.
Given that Tony Blinken was responsible for 51 “intelligence” operatives claim about the Biden laptop being Russian disinformation. And all the bogus charges of Trump being under the influence of the Russians that came from the folks who do regime change all over the world. It just seems to me that is what we experienced over the last 4 years was a coup by the national security state and the leaders of the Democratic party.

I know that it sounds crazy but given all the revelations about how the US government spends money it seems to make sense.
Can somebody point out what is wrong with that idea, and reassure me that I am just being paranoid?

dobbs

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-12 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm pretty sure you're right. I thought so at the time.
The BLM protests, the election shenanigans, a trumped-up phony crisis, national suicide through unchecked migration, and more, all looked like a color revolution being carried out at home.

The only thing I would add is that it wasn't limited to the US. The operation included anti-populist reactions (i.e. attacks against the populace by the ruling class) in many other countries.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-12 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Of course it was a color revolution with the chosen color being "black" (as in "black lives matter"). The only unanswered question I have in mind is whether the virus leak was a mistake or deliberate.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 12:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't think covid was intended as a regime change against Trump. Covid was global, it didn't end when Trump lost power, and it seemed to be about forcing the experimental injections onto the population more than anything.

I think the lockdowns destabilised society in a major way, which opened the door for the colour revolution stuff (BLM etc). Governments around the world trashed the social contract, which created an environment that certain factions (especially in the US) could take advantage of.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 05:51 pm (UTC)
claire_58: (Default)
From: [personal profile] claire_58
When the economy crashed in 2008 one of the things that happened was that people stopped buying prescription medicine because they couldn't afford it. The "Affordable Care Act" was essentially a bailout for the pharmaceutical companies. When that failed they had to do something else. A global pandemic was probably the best idea they'd had in a long time; a win-win-win. It assured massive profits for pharma and ticked off lots of boxes for achieving the Davos crowd's long held fantasies of totalitarian control.
Sorry if this pushes the boundaries of Rule #2 but the elites have had their knickers in knots about overpopulation for more that 40 years . . .

Squonk

Date: 2025-02-13 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
There’s a mythical creature of the Eastern US named Lacrimacorpus dissolvens, common name Squonk, which it appears (to me at least) for decades has been in positions of power in and around Washington DC. Problem is for the squonk: it’s quite ugly and cannot stand to see itself in a mirror or pool of reflecting water, and once captured & restrained it dwindles into cries and sighs, eventually dissolving in a pool of tears.

Since the topic stream has been nibbling into music this week, I’d propose the 1976 Genesis song from the album “A Trick of The Tail”, Squonk, for the official ballad of the upcoming dissolving of Squonkish Democrats and Republicans as Trump and DOGE hunt them down, put them in sacks, and we all gently watch them… dissolve.

Song: https://youtu.be/xmUSL1njm84

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Genesis-squonk-lyrics

The Squonkish wailing is increasing, due at least in part to the promised release of formerly-secret documents regarding:
* assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK
* 9/11
* UFOs
* Jeffrey Epstein files including the client list
* Most-relevant to this blog: Covid-19 origin

I would hope the Covid investigation goes deeper, not just into its origin but into the propagation of the entire demented psy-op, including masks, 6-ft floor dots, mandatory mRNA injections, school closures, firings, and miscellaneous countless insanities.

Floor dots, hah! I harvested two more just a couple of weeks ago from the lobby of a motel in Davis, California; see my ‘kill’ photo at: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8ZBB6WoaJf7aVEFn9

Re: Squonk

Date: 2025-02-13 04:52 pm (UTC)
temporaryreality: (Default)
From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
Are squonks the adult form of (policy)wonks?

And…Wait, you were in Davis? Let me know if you pass through again, I live ~15 minutes away :)

RFK Jr

Date: 2025-02-13 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Kennedy is approved

Yes!

Date: 2025-02-13 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is good, methinks.

RFK confirmed!

Date: 2025-02-13 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Finally, RFK jr has been confirmed by the Senate. Of course all Democrats and ueber RINO Mitch McConnel voted against. I can't wait to see what this will bring. We've been waiting for some breakthoughs way too long...

Re: RFK confirmed!

Date: 2025-02-13 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deathcap
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Happy birthday to meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Re: RFK confirmed!

Date: 2025-02-15 02:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I hope it was a wonderful birthday, special day, healthy day!!!

Re: RFK confirmed!

Date: 2025-02-14 10:43 am (UTC)
scotlyn: a sunlit pathway to the valley (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
When I heard that RFK Jr had been confirmed, despite what the drug cartels tried to do to prevent that, and then I suddenly thought, didn't the US President declare drug cartels to be terrorists?

What if he also meant, or might come to mean... the legal ones?

Feeling Thoughtful...

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG, it took me a long time to get to the site today, and one time it showed me an error message.

i had never seen this particular error, and i dont know how common it is, but i looked it up and found an explanation.. and i thought it might amuse you:

What is Guru Meditation ?

https://auryo.com/what-is-guru-meditation/

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 06:31 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
These things are coming more often. DW is a pretty good platform. But there are a lot of issues in corporate clouds and environments these days.

But DW fails to from time to time and MAYBE at some point even lose data. that's why I decided to do the archives to begin with.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 07:26 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
I don't know if this help but here in Romania I haven't have this in a while... Interesting

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
Odd. Here in the Netherlands it seems to work fine too.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 03:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have had no problems with dreamwidth in Australia either, so I think you are right.

J.L.Mc12

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] milkyway1
I‘ve gotten the same error as as you repeatedly in the past few days, and I‘m in Germany.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 09:46 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
Maybe Germany is "special", it is the most connected hub with US in terms of communications probably second only to UK. Who knows!

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 10:01 am (UTC)
scotlyn: a sunlit pathway to the valley (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
Data point from Ireland... I've had no problems accessing DW in the last few months or so...

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 09:54 am (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
Data point from Ireland... I've had no problems accessing DW in the last few months or so...







I think this whole thing of "cache" looks like a hidden cache of some sort where things were redirected in order for stuff to be siphoned and monitored man in the middle on a state level. That's why it seems to be just a US, Canada and Germany thing...






It might not even be a DW problem...




Take this example the Google cache finds this man in the middle thing in the article but if I go to the page nothing of the kind is mentioned.






https://bonsai.io/docs/http-504-gateway-timeout







"Network issues","Gateway issues", looks to me that this is not even a DW problem, maybe the man in the middle was sponsored by USAID and it failed, the silence about these issues on the technical forums is suspect to me. The 2 years continue layoff in US industry made all my colleagues into little obedient wussies.









Have you wondered why Google doesn't even index DW content?




(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 10:20 am (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
And yes I know officially is not possible to have man in the middle over https, because certificates and SSL etc. But I never completely believed that, especially, looking back EFF pushed https a lot and it is now revealed that EFF got a lot of money from USAID.

https://www.eff.org/observatory
https://www.eff.org/free-speech-weak-link/ca

One thing with http is that because you knew that there could be a man in the middle you payed care with what you share online.

So even if https officially doesn't allow the man in the middle, I think that might not apply if you are "The Man" or "The Company".

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 10:22 am (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
[personal profile] ecosophia what is the official position of DW support about this issue?

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 06:38 pm (UTC)
slithytoves123: (Default)
From: [personal profile] slithytoves123
From the errors I've been getting, it seems like Dreamwidth is just having some technical issues with its database servers. I don't think the evidence (yet) points to anything more than that that. But we will see, won't we?

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 09:47 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
I've seen on Dmitry Orlov beside paywall a comment on a post where someone said that they are preparing a second pandemic, one commenter said that they have a friend working in security and that they prepare to totally control Internet for the event. Obviously this is will speculation and hearsay.


But, when these things are tested this could explained, CDN and other balancers also can throw 5xx errors, which might explain why they don't experience issues in other part of the World.

Who knows!


(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, "Even if you are paranoid, that still doesn't mean they aren't out to.get you."

Seems like a good time to explore some more arcane internet protocols (like I2P) that are more resistant to censorship. I know very little about such alternatives, basically that they exist and are much less convenient. I want to get more up to speed.

JMG, whatever you have in mind for that backup site, if possible, please give us its IP address as well as its URL. That way, it's pretty simple to get to the site even if its DNS records are sabotaged (that's roughly analogous to erasing someone's name and phone number from the phone book.)

For what its worth, so far, all I've seen are a few errors that look like either database or caching server errors at Dreamwidth. Nothing that looks like a "site not found." All the errors have recognizably come from Dreamwidth.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 09:47 pm (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist

, "Even if you are paranoid, that still doesn't mean they aren't out to.get you."

Philip K Dick famously used that quote...

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 12:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think I first saw it somewhere in Thomas Pynchon. (It's also one of my favorite Linux screen-savers.)

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-13 10:59 pm (UTC)
tritumi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tritumi
Much of this discussion reminds me of the course my life has taken and why I am an expatriate for better or worse.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 04:31 am (UTC)
temporaryreality: (Default)
From: [personal profile] temporaryreality
Per Market Ticker’s “dark” website, here’s one more reason to a) divorce the medical system and b) start decoupling every other aspect of life from digital/online virtual world: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2025-01/fact-sheet-contec-cms8000-contains-a-backdoor-508c.pdf

A widely used medical monitor made in China has a back door for Chinese access.

Gotta wonder (yet again) how much of what modern US society relies on is vulnerable to intrusion, disruption, etc from hostile actors, not just internal fraud and upcoming resource reallocation….

Fertility

Date: 2025-02-14 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
A few weeks back I calculated that the mRNA vaxx seems to diminish fertility by 36%. I just came across a study that shows a massive increase in medical complications when women were vaxxed during pregnancy. I'll quote a summary of the study I found on X

Peer-Reviewed Study Identifies Serious Safety Signals for 37 Adverse Events Following COVID-19 'Vaccination' in Pregnant Women🛑

CDC/FDA safety thresholds breached for miscarriage, stillbirth, premature infant death, fetal cardiac arrest, neonatal respiratory distress, fetal malformations, and many more.

📊 Highest Proportional Reporting Ratios (PRR) (COVID-19 v. Other Vaccines & Influenza Vaccines) – A PRR ≥2 is a CDC/FDA safety signal 🚨

⚠️ Placental Insufficiency – PRR = 499 (499x more frequent) (Severe placental dysfunction, restricting oxygen/nutrients to the baby)

💨 Neonatal Respiratory Distress – PRR = 134 (134x more frequent) (Newborns struggling to breathe, requiring urgent medical care)

💔 Premature Infant Death – PRR = 124 (124x more frequent) (Sharp rise in newborn deaths following preterm birth)

❤️ Fetal Cardiac Arrest – PRR = 108 (108x more frequent) (Baby’s heart stopping before birth, life-threatening)

🩸 Hemorrhage in Pregnancy – PRR = 67.6 (68x more frequent) (Excessive bleeding during pregnancy, endangering mother & baby)

🧬 Fetal Malformation – PRR = 51.5 (52x more frequent) (Congenital abnormalities affecting baby’s development)

⚠️ Miscarriage – PRR = 38.4 (38x more frequent) (Significant increase in pregnancy loss before 20 weeks)

⚰️ Stillbirth – PRR = 28.1 (28x more frequent) (Late-term fetal death, a devastating pregnancy outcome)

On average, adverse pregnancy events were reported 69.2 times more frequently (PRR = 69.2) after COVID-19 ‘vaccination’ compared to other vaccines, with some events occurring nearly 499 times more often (PRR = 499). The CDC/FDA define a safety concern as a PRR of ≥2, meaning these findings far exceed the established threshold for risk. Additionally, the mean z-score of 9.64 (where statistical significance begins at 1.96) and the mean Chi-square of 74.7 (compared to the safety threshold of 4) indicate that these results are highly statistically significant and unlikely due to chance.


This consitutes a *massive* safety signal, more than 30 times the minimum level for such signal.

The study itself can be found here https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/are-covid-19-vaccines-in-pregnancy-as-safe-and-effective-as-the-medical-industrial-complex-claim-part-i/

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-14 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fredsmith11
Personally, I believe that the vax was a depopulation bioweapon experiment, given the DoD was running the show (Operation Warpspeed). Hence the batch variability, with some very high kill rates in certain batches.

We should also note the weaponised propaganda trial run.

ALL safety signals were deliberately ignored, because it wasn't a vax as we previously considered them to be.

Birth rates are down in heavily vaxxed countries, but they were falling anyway and one thing COVID and the vax did was magnify the war between the sexes i.e. liberal women vs conservative men. Thus fewer people are forming relationships and procreating.

My estimate is overall the ideological battle between the sexes is having a greater effect on birthrates than the vax.

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-14 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Meanwhile the Amish quietly breed like rabbits, spreading and forming new colonies. Guess the future belongs to them.

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-15 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
For sure the trend was downward and multiple factors are in play, but the trend went sharply downward in 2022. Czech Republic has now 22% less live births than 2019 and only the vaxxed women saw a major decline. I have little doubt this is the effect of the jab.

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-16 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fredsmith11
"only the vaxxed women saw a major decline".

I have anecdotal evidence of reproductive problems amongst the (presumed vaxxed) peers of my kids, but I've never seen any official birth data for vaxxed vs unvaxxed women.

Do you have a data source?

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-17 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
You can start in this thread https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/313959.html?thread=53763943#cmt53763943
In a comment in the Steve Kirsch article I made the 36% calculation, while the 22% is in the Dreamwidth thrad

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-16 05:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
did it increase teh down syndrome abnormalities ?

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-16 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
Fetal chromosome abnormality increased 87-fold (PRR 87.6)

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-17 01:28 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
someone I know had a down syndrome prenancy, but since this happens sometimes anyway, I have been wondering since then if it was due to the multiple covid vixens mom the parents got or if they would have been one of the ones to have a downs child in any case. And, a secondary thought is that we may have alot of underreporting of fetal abnormalities as some amount of them are terminated I maybe that isnt in those statistics.

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-17 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
That's true. Even then, in a sane world a 87-fold increase would be front page news. Now it's just crickets.

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-17 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
These gigantic ratios can't be the true numbers, and not just because nobody could fail to notice such huge, global effects. There clearly IS a real safety signal with regard to miscarriages, but the "normal" rate of miscarriage before 20 weeks is probably at least 25%, so for vaxxed women to miscarry 38.4 times more often would require that almost 1000% of pregnancies miscarried.

The authors have taken small absolute numbers and somehow turned them into huge ratios, but you can't do that meaningfully without knowing what the correct denominators are. For example, VAERS has 40 reports of fetal malformation associated with covid "vaxxes", vs. 2 with flu vaxxes since 1990 and 8 with "all other vaccines." This gets turned into "52 times more frequent" by assuming that the correct measure is reports per *month*, not per woman exposed. That doesn't compute. Lots of women were coerced to get covid jabs in pregnancy, but how many women get "other" non-flu vaccines in pregnancy? Before the latest RSV-vax-pushing tendency, probably few. Since there's maybe a 3% malformation rate normally, there have to have been thousands of malformations following flu vax (even if uncaused by it) that were not reported. Anyway, the covid "vax" certainly can't increase the *real* malformation rate 52 times, or that would mean that ca. 150% of exposed babies were malformed.

This suggests that part of what they are really measuring is variation in *reporting* rates. It would be of interest to compare the 40 months of covid-jab reports with the same period of "other-vax" reports, since the observed toxicity of the covid jabs allowed many people to become aware of the existence of VAERS and their right to make reports to it. I'd predict that "other-vax" reports per month increased post-2020.

Re: Fertility

Date: 2025-02-18 10:50 am (UTC)
scotlyn: a sunlit pathway to the valley (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
If you read the originating paper you will absolutely see what the ratios represent.

The researchers investigated VAERS reports and pulled out every report that corelated a pragnancy related issue with any vaccine given during pregnancy.

They then divided the reports into three groups.

Incidents related to flu vaccines.

Incidents related to covid vaccines.

Incidents related to any other vaccine.

The reported ratios arise from comparing these reports - because flu vaccines and "any other vaccines" resulted in reports numbering in the low tens or units, whereas the covid vaccines resulted in reports numbering in the hundreds and thousands and even tens of thousands.

The reason their conclusion restricts itself to saying "there is a screamingly high safety signal here which needs further investigation", is because discerning safety signals is precisely what VAERS is designed to do.

It can only do that if policy makers opt to pay close attention to such signals. Notably, other vaccines were shut down and removed from production for much smaller signals.

official MAHA commission

Date: 2025-02-14 12:59 pm (UTC)
charlieobert: (Default)
From: [personal profile] charlieobert
I saw this on Robert Malone's substack - this is from the official White House site:

The Make America Healthy Commission.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-establishes-the-make-america-healthy-again-commission/

It's worth reading. He's saying some things officially and out loud here.

quote:

"Americans have lost trust in our health system, skeptical as to whether they are receiving honest answers about the causes of the country’s health crisis and how to improve it.

Only a third of Americans trust the U.S. health system, a near-record low."

And, one of the four main directives:

"Ensure expanded treatment options and health coverage flexibility for beneficial lifestyle changes and disease prevention."

That's vague and open-ended, but pointing in the right direction.

Re: official MAHA commission

Date: 2025-02-15 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmm: why no Covid Vaccines Massacre Commission?

All distraction.

Re: official MAHA commission

Date: 2025-02-15 06:25 pm (UTC)
scotlyn: a sunlit pathway to the valley (Default)
From: [personal profile] scotlyn
As regards the concept of "disease prevention" it is a notable fact that disease prevention IS the whole "public health" rationale for vaccination all the way to legally overriding consent with mandates. To the extent of redefining certain diseases as "preventable" once a vaccine is approved that claims to prevent it. As in "preventable diseases like measles." (See? The talking point that RFK Jr singlehandedly "killed" 80 Samoans by preventing their vaccination and "making them die of measles" is already contained in this concept and language usage of "preventable", and would not be possible outside of it)

As regards the concept of "lifestyle changes" I would also note that this type of language has been in use for DECADES to divert attention from "toxic industrial processes and practices". While it is true that some lifestyles are healthier than others, the fact is that there is NO lifestyle that guarantees good health or that eliminates mortality. So, while this is a conversation that it is ocasionally useful to have in certain individual cases, it is not a conversation that is capable of being transformative at the scale of culture and society.

We have already spent decades seeing the media and popular clinical science frame every health issue in terms of a person's lifestyle "choices". It has never endangered the career of a journalist, doctor or scientist to blame bad health on "choices" such as drinking alcohol, taking drugs, smoking cigarettes, and overeating food, especially processed food. But how many of us "chose" to live in places poisoned by industrial pollutants, to drink waters infused with chemical and pharmaceutically active waste, breathing air laced with industrial emissions, and buzzing with artificial EMF's. And yet we do, and these things also make us sick. And is it not true that any journalist, scientist or doctor who seeks to frame health issues in the context of industrial pollutants, toxins and/or EMF's can be guaranteed the same kind of cancellation and censorship and loss of licencing/funds etc that we have been watching up close and personal in these threads?

I would definitely like to see very, very careful disambiguation of both of these concepts - "lifestyle choices" and "disease prevention" - before reading this paragraph as anything positive.






(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 04:18 pm (UTC)
athaia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] athaia
I'm reading this open post and fail-fandom anon's US politics post side by side, and the whiplash is indescribable.

RKFJR

Date: 2025-02-14 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Any thoughts from folks on what RKF may be able to realistically do in his new position?

Re: RKFJR

Date: 2025-02-14 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It would seem that RFK had something to do with this:


######
Breaking: Trump to Strip Federal Funding From Schools That Mandate COVID Vaccines
President Donald Trump signed an executive order to defund schools, universities and other education agencies that require COVID-19 vaccines for students and staff. The order directs HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the secretary of Education to create a plan to end the mandates.
by Brenda Baletti, Ph.D.
FEBRUARY 14, 2025
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/trump-executive-order-defund-schools-covid-vaccine-mandates/

######


My further comment: there was plenty of mass formation psychosis going on when it came to imposing the mandates (I know because I witnessed it myself) but for many institutions the mandates were simply a function of federal funding. Under Biden it was, mandate the covid jabs or we cut your funding. Now it looks like under Trump it's going to be do NOT mandate the covid jabs or we cut your finding. The gravy train takes a different track accordingly.

Also, for starters I think RFK is going to get VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) up to speed. One way to do that is to simply enforce the law that's already there, that medical providers MUST report adverse events.

Re: RKFJR

Date: 2025-02-14 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I found it amusing when he pointed out dyes were toxic and they finally banned them after dragging their feet for decades. This was before it was certain he would get the job.

Re: RKFJR

Date: 2025-02-14 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You might be surprised how little resistance he gets to some of his ideas. I think the military industrial complex is deeply concerned about the health of their cannon fodder, I mean, the general populace. I think the pct of conscripts they'd have to reject is upwards of 80% now, just due to ill health. Although they were warned 10 years ago about this. Multiple times.

So if RFK wants to ban junk food, you might be surprised how much support in four part harmony he gets from certain sectors. And it wouldn't surprise me if fast food was severely hobbled as well.

Just keep in mind they're not doing it because they like you, they're doing it so they can use you as cannon fodder later on.

Re: RKFJR

Date: 2025-02-15 01:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMFO - Join the Military and Find Out

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Top NIH official during COVID-19 — who admitted agency funded gain-of-function research in China — resigns

https://nypost.com/2025/02/13/us-news/nih-principal-deputy-director-lawrence-tabak-who-led-agency-during-covid-abruptly-resigns/

ive seen so many ppl stepping down.. not only
medical ppl but all sorts.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-14 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here is a link to a very sobering video in support of CodysLaw.org and all those injured by the vaxx.

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/lament-of-the-vaxx-injured-video

It's very moving and read by a young man who has, himself, been injured.

Liam in Toronto

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 01:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A BIG win in Canada!

Rebel News here in Canada has just made this post:

"After nearly four years of relentless attacks against Dr. Charles Hoffe, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia is backing down.

. . . Dr. Hoffe faced years of professional persecution for raising concerns about COVID-19 vaccine injuries. His willingness to speak out led to the college filing professional misconduct charges against him and threatening to revoke his medical licence.

But last week, they unexpectedly decided to DROP the case!"

Apparently, the College is citing "materially changed" circumstances around the COVID "emergency" but there is much skepticism. I wonder why!

A win is a win although it does nothing to compensate Dr. Hoffe for all the distress this case must have cost him.

Liam in Toronto




(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Indeed, this is wonderful news, Liam.
Let's celebrate the 'wins' whenever we can!

Ron M

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-17 12:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I agree. It is a "win", not a BIG win. A win will be when this good doctor Hoffe is hired to run the health department of Canada and starts taking shots at all those people, who persecuted him.

Canada is really a lost cause. It will probably head into a civil war, because the normal politics is extremely distorted to get the country back to sanity soon.

(no subject)

Date: 2025-02-15 08:38 am (UTC)
the_arcane_archivist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
This thing gives me hope, even if it is across the ocean, if this is done in US this will impact the whole world.

https://www.aol.com/trump-says-something-really-wrong-155547924.html

Edited Date: 2025-02-15 02:34 pm (UTC)
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