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raking in the lootWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
Correction. Only paid-off scientists.. and folks (even here) who still naively believed in the scientists or the education system which indoctrinated them in their advanced degrees believed that shedding didn't happen.

You can check back in the archives ... I've been talking about shedding effects from the getgo, as it was so obvious in my family members. Yet we always had well-meaning folks, even here, pooh poohing it. I'm not angry - as it was a slow realization that many people could not overcome the lifetime of indoctrination they've been receiving, and could not see the obvious shedding results right in front of their eyes. Those kind of discussions were still happening here up till a year ago (some folks saying they not seeing it). Denial is way bigger that that river in Egypt.

1 - Where do fresh clusters of measles and polio occur? Often right after they start jabbing a new group of kids in an area. That correlation has been known for many many years, yet totally downplayed or ignored by MSM. It's obvious that even 'inactivated' polio or weakened measles virus can regain full virulency after jabbing and then start infecting (aka shedding) onto nearby folks. People who had had such diseases naturally had much more long lasting and durable immunity.. but the folks who were jabbed a few years before would have lost it, so become new 'victoms'. Again, the news would never report accurately that the folks who fell sick were previously jabbed. So 'shedding' as a phenomenon has been known forever, but medical textbooks deliberately overlook it, but once you look at the data, it's obvious.

2- I always tried my best to give the range of symptoms that I'm seeing, and what other shedded affected people were seeing.. basically to give folks a heads up what to look for. As we begun to improve our anti-shedding protocols, we were still not homefree. This engneered thing IS nasty beyond measure, always probing and trying to find weak points.. probably the most insidious was after a long 7 hr flight earlier this year. everyone's blood sugar started to climb inexorably - aka metabolic dysfunction was being causes. The consequences of that would show up many more months or years down the line, depending on the person, but we caught wind of it early and now it's also standard testing that we would do for ourselves. While it's possible that someone living rural and mostly alone, in a low population density situation would not be exposed that much, it never hurts to check. Of course, the strength of one's own spirituality makes a huge difference in how vulnerable one is immune or vulnerble to such poison, but that's a really huge topic which I been mulling over on the best way or place to discuss that.

3 - I have a strong inclination to monitor a myriad of information sources. In this past week, in at least 2 different places, I've seen fresh reports of unvexed folks basically reporting getting the equivalent of turbo-cancer - it wasn't labelled as such, but the speed of the spread was obvious to me. That tells me the SV40 is also getting sent out in those exuded exosomes.

4 - Another study which I don't think has been discussed here yet... found that SV40 is not just oncogenic (promoting cancer), but also angiogenic - aka it strongly aids the building of fresh blood supply to new tumors. That's the reason why we are seeing turbo cancers. Normal cancers take time to build up new tentacles of blood supply and grow. SV40 is helping them build that scafolding as quickly as it can, allowing new cancers to grow ridiculously fast. Then purposely including SV40 in the jab - I hope people can start to draw the right conclusion now in the face of all that evidence instead of thinking that it's still a benign lab leak from a well-meaning gain-of-function experiment.

5 - Turbo-cancer is no joke. Since I had help cured my mom's turbo colonrectal last year, I think I had a bit of a too blase attitude. A couple months ago, my left shoulder area started hurting out of nowhere... I thought it might be an old injury and just taking a painkill every 4-5 days when it got really bad was sufficient and I carried on with life. SLowly it became necesary to take it every 3-4 days.. . and then eventually 2 days. That's when I realized it wouldn't be an injury, as I'm doing a 'stack' that pretty much heals all physical injuries. About 30 yrs ago, my father passed away, after getting non-small-cell lung cancer at the same as I am now, only discovering it a year + later, went through a year of aggressive chemo before he passed. So there is a sort of genetic synchronocity in me getting the same thing at the same age.... and I put myself on high dose liquid VIM. Within 2 days a.. the shoulder pain had totally disappeared - aka all the tentacles that the lung cancer nodule had spread out to draw resources had been nuked. AS you can imagine, I was pretty pleased with myself.. the intial side effects were similar to some of that of chemo.. all those killed cancer cells are still in the blood and you get this chemo taste in your mouth. Your body is very tired etc... Complacent me stopped treatment after 3 days, as I had a lot of stuff I needed to do for my daughter's year-end racing schedule... so 1 week of no treatment, and I could feel it coming back, and I did another 3-5 days of treatment, felt much better, and then went back to aiding my daughter. Then the pain came back a bit worse.... and I realized I needed to stop treating it so cavalierly, as it was coming back too quickly even though I figured I had cleared more than 90% of it each time.... the growth rate was just phenomenal. So 3 days ago, I went full hog - fenben (1000mg each morning and night) , and pill VIM in the mornining + HQC, and liquid VIM in the evening. As the pill vim had less bioavailability, it made me less tired during the day, so I can still do maybe 80% of my normal physical workload while still undergoing treatment. This time, I intend to stick with it for at least 2 weeks.

6. Liquid vim is still under the radar for now... I would strongly suggest stocking up on it. It actually has a lot more interesting properties which I can't discuss on this forum, but when enough folks know about it, the system will likely want to get full control of it. When they ran the Oxford clinical trial for VIM for 2 years, I'm sure they used high enough dosage and saw some of the unexpected results - but in their materialistic and atheistic worldview, they probably mistook some of the results implications. Stock it and save it, as it will provide many lifesaving applications going forward.


From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
Another data point - after I did my own first round of anti-C treatment, I told my freedom group about it and suggested that they detox their family - to see if anything is going on. Thankfully no one else got the chemo taste... but about half had a myriad of issues get resolved, many which they hadn't linked to shedding. Their treatment protocol was just for 3 days .. once it was deemed not necessary to be full anti-C.

Basically 4 families ended up doing it altogether... decent enough data point for me, kids and all.
Some had more fatigue.. some less... just take it easy during the detox phase.
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From: [personal profile] kallianeira


Sobering stuff. Awful in fact.

As for liquid VIM
- in Oz the products I can find from equine suppliers all contain Praziquantel as well, if not more antihelmintics. Not so happy to take that. Does anyone have information on it?
- The alternative seems to be homelabvet.com which one of the readers recommended a few months ago. Their VIM is also 1% and contains no other medicines.
- has anyone in Oz got any from that company? Did it get through Customs?
- is 1% what you are using, [personal profile] stubborn_ass?

- iridescent scintillating elver


From: (Anonymous)
I found a 1L liquid injectable version for sheep and cattle in a rural feedstore a couple of years ago. Got a few litres for my herds since I wasn't sure about shelf stability and it was cheap as chips. It doesn't go off by all accounts (it has a tight stopper to prevent oxidation once you open it) so that should last awhile.
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
Can't remember if I shared this detail before. Once in a while, I would go onto the Alibaba website and search for VIM. Get all kinds of weird hit due to censorship... then one time I managed to get legit hit. Corresponded with the seller for a while, and despite hefty shipping costs, I could get the raw powder, and then make my own pill ,say 100 pills of 5mg each, for a $1 or so. Similar commercial quantities were retailing from $8-20 per bottle. I was extremely tempted to pull the trigger, but even a 2kg shipment of VIM would raise all kinds of red flags and likely prompt the system to check all my subsequent shipments. So sadly had to pass.
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From: [personal profile] kallianeira

Yes, I remember your mentioning that source and its cost effectiveness.
And went to look there. Since everything VIM I could find seemed to be in commercial quantities (>=1kg) it would be subject to like concerns.

HOWEVER, that other super-miraculous chemical of multiple uses which a Midwestern Doctor has been featuring in a recent series of articles (hint: begins with D, ends with O ,has MS in the middle) is ridiculously cheap on that site and can be got by the litre, which is not so unusual given its reputation in equine health applications. Here it is round $100/litre.

- iridescent scintillating elver
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
Yes, that D_O thingie is also ridiculously cheap. I trust MWD implicitly and had managed to source it a few months back.... but only started using it more in the past couple of weeks as friends had been asking me. Their own experiences was mixed, and I understand that as with public substacks where the doctors talk about alternatives, some of the dosages were a bit more vague than it should be in order to protect themselves.

My own initial experience was.. hmm... nothing's really happening but the pain levels from the lung cancer I was treating meant that I now had a good reason to try and figure out the dosage that would help in my case... applied on my back 3X a day seems effective - and yes, the sleep quality has been greatly enhanced. My wife who did the application via her hands - also had great sleep that same night, so it actually got in mainly via finger exposure. Just a fwiw.
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From: [personal profile] kallianeira

I hadn't heard re D_O and sleep. That would be a multiplication of miracles.

I can say that in my immediate family, 5 of 7 have a norrible genetic condition of the hands called Dupuytrens' Contracture (even females, and both parents, which is unusual). Me, having been applying the liquid to sore joints and scars for several years, I have no signs of the disease. I am also now using it in my eyes to find out if it helps remove cataracts. If I could bear to drink it I'd doubtless be crowing that everything was cured... of course, these are personal anecdotes only.

iridescent scintillating elver

From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
Yes... the 1% is what I'm using. Don't need it to be mixed with other stuff as it's so potent already on its own + Fenben. My chest went from very constricted feeling at 90% capacity to just a feeling of tightness at full capacity after 3 fulls days of treatment. My lymph nodes all over the body were also quite swollen on the first day, not they're just slightly sensitive to the touch and not painful enough to affect surrouding tissues.
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From: [personal profile] escorcher
John Campbell has three videos that support your ideas of anti-cancer properties of anti-parasitics, Stubborn (inc. paper link too):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zm3fD2zZLOs

'Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug'

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7505114/

"Fenbendazole (FBZ) is a cheap and readily available anti-parasitic commonly used in veterinary medicine.

FBZ belongs to the benzimidazole drug class which destabilize microtubules through a mechanism similar to the anti-oncogenic vinca alkaloids."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q5QjEPGNNg

'Ivem and Fen ben Cancer cure experiences'

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V5shGPTTTR8

Sending good shoulder vibes.

JP
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks, stubborn. A question for my own information about your personal experience (no medical advice being solicited of course.) Is the liquid vim you speak of labeled "for injection?" There's that and a pour-on formulation available where I live. But I imagine the pour-on has ingredients that are very toxic if taken internally. (And as it is, I'm not thrilled that the injectable contains propylene glycol.) Just curious if there is another formulation sold in Asia

Thanks.
*OHC*
From: [personal profile] stubborn_ass
As discussed on one of the previous week's threads.. the pour-on version is NOT for oral consumption. It does work against a number of shedding or vex-induced skin conditions though, when applied topically. If you tried applying the horsegel topically, the concentration is too low to do anything.. the pour on is much higher when applied via a cotton swab etc.

Please be very careful with the injection version... if you are not sick, do not use it in the high-dose amounts... as it'll end up doing something else. Given how many folks are now desperately trying out alternative cures, I expect accidental ODs to happen. They won't die, but effects can be unpleasant and unexpected.
From: [personal profile] boccaccio
I’m well aware you were on to the shedding from the beginning. That’s actually why you came to mind when I made the post above. I think it gives extra weight to the protocols you developed.

It also shows that people trying to see what is instead of looking through the lens of authority, can have a much better view of what’s going on. With the intensifying information warfare on all media this will be an ever more important quality. I do feel, though, that it is valuable to have thorough scientific research confirming findings.

I started out neutral on the issue, but reading the mounting evidence on places like this forum, and then Pier Kory’s series on Substack convinced me that it is real. I think there is also a non-material aspect to it. Possibly my strangest personal experience during the Coof was when I was in a Zoom call with two acquaintances. When the call started I started to sneeze and have a running nose which cleared as suddenly as it had started right when the call ended. Only later I learned one of the others had recently been jabbed. I had no reason to suspect her being jabbed as she was against it and there was no new round going on. I suspect it was simply because she wanted to travel. I also looked for other possible causes but I was just in my living room and nothing unusual was going on.

“This engneered thing IS nasty beyond measure, always probing and trying to find weak points.” – yes. The two times I got Covid, it was like it was probing. One day my musles would be sore, next day a headache, then fever etc. Really strange. Based on my personal experience I have a feeling that it can stay for a very long time, months, in the respiratory system and the gut. I’ve stated many times here that it is not just the vaxx that is dangerous, but the virus too (albeit less than the vax).

Ad 3 – that is a very concerning possibility. The paper shows there is theoretically a pathway and I for sure cannot rule it out.

Ad 4 – wow, even worse…

A5 5 – that’s quite a nasty, the shoulder/lung pain, and concerning. I’m sending you shoulder/lung blessings if you will have them. Great that you found something that seems to help. May you be fully well soon!

Thanks for the tip on liquid VIM. It’s next to impossible to get it in pill, and even for my horse (if I had one) it is next to impossible. I live in a truly oppressive country when it comes to health medicine. Not surprising considering out prominent role in the lab leak coverup (M. Koopmans) and rolling out of the NATO security branch driven rollout of the pandemic response (Mark Rutte, Dick Schoof wee both major players as I posted about some weeks ago). Pfizer connected Von der Luegen leading the EU is also less than helpful.

I wonder, can you share the 3 day protocol you experimented with? What was the daily dose of VIM and Fenben you used?

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