Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 206

[ecosophia]

We are now approaching the end of the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary all these years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules have been slightly expanded due to a recent discussion here:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

7. Please don't post LLM ("AI") generated text. This is a place for human beings to talk to other human beings, not for the regurgitation of machine-generated text. Also, please don't discuss large language models (the technology popularly and inaccurately called "artificial intelligence" these days) except as they bear directly on the Covid phenomenon. Here again, my finger is hovering over the delete button. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

here is an article that covers more of the twit post i put in the last thread:

RFK Jr. Blasts ‘Corrupt and Broken’ Vaccine Court System — Vows to Overhaul VICP and End HHS Cover-Ups for Big Pharma

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/rfk-jr-blasts-corrupt-broken-vaccine-court-system/

[(Anonymous)]

The 1986 Vaccine Act needs to be repealed so that vaccine manufacturers can be sued for all the damages that they have caused humanity.

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting fact about the VICP. It is, I believe the only court (maybe the ICC too) which covers legal fees win or lose.

[(Anonymous)]

Just saw this from Ed Dowd on Instagram

He said 5 billion people took a covid shot of some kind.
7-15 million people died from these vaccines but Dennis Rancourt thinks it's 17 million. 29-60 million have been disabled from the vaccine. 4 times the death rate.
500-900 million have been injured from the vaccine.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMB0bJDtg9q/

[fredsmith11]

The Chief Scientific Officer of CHD said about a year ago that their data analysis indicated 15.3 million deaths from the jab at that time.

CHD just published a podcast called "Data Doesn't Lie: The COVID Shot Catastrophe" that mentions 17 million deaths.

An extrapolation of Australian excess deaths since the vax across the total jabbed population, shows around 15 million.

[(Anonymous)]

What deaths are included in those numbers, those which occurred within a few weeks of vaccination or a longer time period? Around me I can easily come up with about six people who have died since the vax came out and who I wouldn’t have expected to die during that time.

On top of that there’s easily a dozen or more who have been diagnosed with heart or other serious conditions. Just yesterday friends told us that their grandson (20) had developed myocarditis shortly after his first jab.

I don’t have an enormous circle of friends and acquaintances and I don’t believe I’m in anyway exceptional in seeing so many medical problems in that circle, so I think 15 or 17 million dead is far too low a number.

History Repeats Itself

[fredsmith11]

There were civil uprisings against the smallpox vax in the 19th Century e.g. in Leicester in the UK.

Here's an anti-vax ad from that time.

Re: History Repeats Itself

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder -- were they persecuted and silenced back then for speaking out against vaccinations? The very existence of this ad seems to suggest they weren't ...

Caldathras

What will happen in 2027?

[(Anonymous)]

I know that the original demon hypothesis (that placed the bargain in 2016) is false, but what about if the bargain happened in 2020? There's even a specific demonic entity that I can see being involved, namely the demon associated with smallpox. The entire Covid-19 madness looked a lot like attempting to use the methods that eradicated smallpox to deal with a respiratory virus; and this ignored the fact that there are a vast number of differences between respiratory viruses and smallpox; one key example being that smallpox gave durable immunity, while it's exceedingly rare for that to occur with respiratory viruses.

The result is a catastrophic collapse of trust in the public health system, specifically targeted at the measures used to control smallpox. I happen to know people who lived through smallpox epidemics; they all agree that it is genuinely as nasty as the standard narrative says it is, but a lot of people are justifiably skeptical of this, given that most people alive today have no lived experience of the disease, and we all just lived through an attempt to make a flu into something worse than the black death.

Add to this that smallpox is still around, and the samples are under the control of the same people who are now losing credibility and resources, and I can't help but note that there is a real risk of a smallpox release, and that this risk could arguably increase dramatically if some of the claims I've seen circulating about how medical researchers' mental health is undergoing a massive collapse turns out to be accurate.

All of which also ties uncomfortably neatly together with the intuition that a lot of people have had that there will shortly be a massive die off: few things devastate a human population quite as effectively as smallpox, and should it start in January of 2027, with the way things look like their going, it will be in a political environment where concerns of disease will be dismissed by a large number of people right up until they themselves are sick....

Re: What will happen in 2027?

[escorcher]

You do know quite a few of those playing down concerns of disease aren't that far away from this comment?

Of course risks of more lab leaks join a myriad of other possibilities as the long descent continues.

Re: What will happen in 2027?

[(Anonymous)]

I've been wondering for some time about the possibility of a smallpox entity (there was supposedly a god of smallpox in the Yoruba religion, but maybe it's a demon?) being involved in the whole cult-like attitude around vaccines that we've been seeing for decades. Vaccines aren't just medical interventions with individual risk-benefit analysis; they're treated more like holy sacraments of a dogmatic religion. It occurred to me that the entity of smallpox might have gotten very angry about the disappearance of his disease, and his clever revenge was not to try to bring back smallpox (as silly humans would assume), but rather to trick the stupid humans into hurting themselves by treating EVERY disease the way they treated smallpox, in a deranged effort to eradicate every single communicable disease.

[(Anonymous)]

I was disheartened today to see the Vinay Prasad is leaving the FDA. He was criticized by the mainstream as a conspiracy theorist and by the COVID critical sphere as a fence-sitter. He was criticized by the left as a MAGA extremist and by the right as a Democrat in disguise. Having listened to him for a few years now, I found him extremely committed to scientific rigor and willing to challenge any person or idea he disagreed with. I thought he was our best chance to bring the medical industrial complex under control.

[(Anonymous)]

here is an article about him stepping down

Top FDA Official Resigns in Disgrace After Exposé by Investigative Journalist Laura Loomer

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/top-fda-official-resigns-disgrace-after-expose-investigative/

she is quite serious about vetting ppl that are not aligned with this administration's policies
she has been quite successful in doing so..
he isnt the first one to get 'loomered' as they are calling it. i wouldnt want to be in her crosshairs.
she is very well connected.
this is her new site she just put up:

Tip Line - Loomered

Know an Obama-Biden holdover inside the Trump admin who needs to be exposed for their misdeeds?

Contact the Loomered Tip Line. Anonymity guaranteed. loomered.com/tip-line/

https://xcancel.com/LauraLoomer/status/1951055665767604270#m

Medical System signs of acceptance

[(Anonymous)]

My elderly mom had her quarterly checkup today with her Big Regional Hospital Associated Primary Care Physician.

At the end of her visit, the medical folks gave her the regular hand out that tells her about her next appointments, her medications, etc. In the about twelve point (fine only compared to the twenty point everywhere else) print on the bottom were directions for how to use your smart phone to report side effects from the covid vaccine.

BoysMom

unvaccinated kids = BETTER health outcomes

[(Anonymous)]

Saw this on FB. I've had Allergic Rhinitis all my life and wonder if it would ever have happened had I not been vaccinated. There's a genetic component but epigenetics shows that environmental factors make all the difference sometimes.

Dr. Paul Thomas studied 3,324 children and found unvaccinated kids had FEWER doctor visits and BETTER health outcomes.

Here’s what his data showed:

Fever – 9.1× higher in vaccinated
Ear Pain – 3.4× higher
Otitis Media (Ear Infections) – 2.9× higher
Conjunctivitis – 2.4× higher
Eye Disorders (Other) – 1.8× higher
Asthma – 5.2× higher
Allergic Rhinitis (Hay Fever) – 6.9× higher
Sinusitis – 4.3× higher
Breathing Issues – 2.9× higher
Anemia – 5.5× higher
Eczema – 4.5× higher
Urticaria (Hives) – 2.1× higher
Dermatitis – 1.4× higher
Behavioral Issues – 4.1× higher
Gastroenteritis – 4.7× higher
Weight/Eating Disorders – 2.5× higher
ADHD – 0 cases in unvaccinated group

*Data based on how often children visited the doctor for each condition*

Instead of investigating the findings, the Oregon Medical Board suspended Dr. Thomas’s license—just days after the study was published. Months later, the study was retracted.
Why are doctors being punished simply for comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated kids?

He got his license back but has to practise privately now.

[tritumi]

As we contemplate the health trifecta of jab consequences, autism, and Alzheimers all running forward, the carrying costs across the wide spectrum from economics to compassion simply collapse the foundational assumptions of current systems, be they official, social, or individual.

The shear gravitational pull driving people to extremes strongly supports the JMG thesis. The center cannot hold and that which is not sustainable will not be sustained.

[(Anonymous)]

Tritumi— I'm starting to think about what happens in my own world in another 5 years. Because too many people in it right now are hanging in there but obviously not long for this world. Most everyone else seems to me to be sucked into the Internet and AI whatnot. I'm working on finding my peeps. It's harder than I had imagined. But it's doable.

Nom du jour: Farfling Pokemonkey Kraken

Wasnt COVID

[(Anonymous)]

We had an offspring of a close friend be on a ventilator, organ failure almost die who "had COVID" I thought how unlucky, must have been bad genetics as he was early 30's.

OK, I just got the real scoop from the young man once we could talk alone, his parents are so into the COVID fear narrative that they still cannot admit what realy happened to him ( his father still says it was COVID that just about killed him).

He was practically dead, they almost pulled the plug etc... and he DID have a positive PCR COVID test. But what was killing him was a MRSA infection in his lungs.

The contributions from "COVID" to almost killing him was (1) Everyone was sheltering in place, doctors did not want to see patients in person, so he had been ill for weeks without seeing a doctor, not seeing a doctor due to COVID restrictions (2) When he got to the hospital, they did a COVID PCR test, which of course was positive, so then they just labeled him a COVID case and put him on a ventilator and probably gave him remisdiver ( I forgot to ask) anyway, on a ventilator for MONTHS. ( 3) They were so into the COVID only mindset that it took MONTHS before a doctor did a lung culture and found out they needed to treat him for a MRSA infection.

Once he was conscious again, he says the first thing a doctor told him was that it was not COVID but the MRSA infection in his lungs that was killing him. He had ECMO, a ventilator, was going into organ failure, etc... we are so lucky he is still alive. He is not well of course due to this ordeal.

Before becoming ill, he was working in a greenhouse environment that was full of molds and stuff, likely where he got a lung infection.

Atmospheric River

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry to have to post 3 links :
https://danielnagase.substack.com/p/japans-plan-to-destroy-the-world
https://danielnagase.substack.com/p/exosomes-supervirus-and-supercancer
https://danielnagase.substack.com/p/replicon-started-in-tokyo-october

As you can see they all come from the same Substack, they are in chronological order and each subsequent one builds upon the previous. They are about some new C-19 vaccine that was to be rolled out in Japan last autumn. I'm sure the commentariat here had been on it back then but I missed it, only saw this today!
Pure madness, "It is a “self amplifying” RNA “vaccine”, that makes copies of itself, allegedly before producing the proteins that the patient is supposed to make antibodies to." Like Pfizer and Moderna but with a beefed up Spike factory.

The author explores the idea that this could then spread to other people, being beyond simple shedding because the recipient's body could incorporate the self-replicating mecanism into itself. It's a done deal because the first doses were delivered into arms last October.

Leaving worst case scenarios aside for a moment, it seems we are not to be left alone.

~Thibault

Good News Story

[scotlyn]

So, I was going to tell you all a good news story from my clinic...

This is a 91-year-old lady who is proud to be on precisely zero prescription drugs, for many, many years, and who is active and lively - and, incidentally, has beautifully vital eyes that light you right up!

The reason she came to my clinic? Simple. She injured her leg while out gardening, and wanted to help it heal so that she could get back to the set dancing she loves (which provides her both with social interest and with physical exercise). And, dear reader, after 4 weeks, she is dancing again!

I had only just gotten this story written down, when I came across this post by Sayer Ji:

https://sayerji.substack.com/p/do-nothing-the-peer-reviewed-prescription

DO NOTHING: The Peer Reviewed Prescription

It is a wide ranging post covering a number of areas in which peer-reviewed studies confirm that doing nothing can often be safer, and also, sometimes, more effective, than medical intervention.

I think my 91-year-old lady would agree.

Re: Good News Story

[(Anonymous)]

Love this

Rates of successful conceptions according to COVID-19 vaccination status: Data from the Czech Republ

[(Anonymous)]

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epub/10.1177/09246479251353384

"Conclusions: In the Czech Republic, SC rates were substantially lower for women vaccinated against COVID-19 before SC than for those who were not vaccinated. These hypothesis-generating and preliminary results call for further studies of the potential influence of COVID-19 vaccination on human fecundability and fertility."


The gift that keeps on giving? I guess we will have to follow the data for a few more years to be definitive.

But one might consider the "Covid Vaccine" a long-term FUNCTIONAL intelligence test. What do I mean? Well, if you are 'fully compliant' human, does it really matter if you have a high IQ?: You are a NPC. And how does that look on a genetic selection/ evolutionary level?

Re: Rates of successful conceptions according to COVID-19 vaccination status: Data from the Czech Re

[fredsmith11]

"a long-term FUNCTIONAL intelligence test".

There are many such intelligence tests happening all the time. Your mission, should you accept it, is to recognise the troweled on BS that permeates every part of mainstream political, medical and media narratives and act accordingly.

If anyone has ever played a "Mario" family video game, Mario makes a great role model. He knows they're out to get him in a variety of nefarious ways, but he stays cheerful and keeps on keeping on regardless. He doesn't take life too seriously and laughs a lot too.

[(Anonymous)]

RFK Jr. Announces Ban Mercury-Based Thimerosal from All Flu Vaccines Which Can Cause “Mild to Severe Mental Retardation” in Unborn Children

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/rfk-jr-announces-ban-mercury-based-thimerosal-all/

its a start i guess..

but most replaced with aluminum

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, not having mercury is a start, but most vaccines have already taken it out and use Aluminum ! Which is also bad. The problem is adjuvants at all -- they inherently cause issue, but they make the body uptake the vaccine better. The whole issue of mandating that CHILDREN, INFANTS let alon us adults are forced and mandated to uptake those poisons ! That is still the fight. Changing one poison metal for another is not a win yet

Atmospheric River

[(Anonymous)]

SHOCKING: FDA Commissioner Dr. Makarty Says NIH ‘Brewed Up a Virus That Killed 20 Million People Worldwide’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/shocking-fda-commissioner-dr-makarty-says-nih-brewed/

ppl in the comments asking why dr fauci is still a free man..

[(Anonymous)]

Notoriously Liberal Circuit Court Rules LA Covid Vax Mandate Must Stand – Even If It Doesn’t Work: ‘Efficacy is Irrelevant’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/notoriously-liberal-circuit-court-rules-la-covid-vax/

this is all so ridiculous

[(Anonymous)]

Week 206 (!)

Dear JMG and dear forumistas, thank you as ever for making this oasis possible.

I missed a week, but I'm back.

Recently I re-read JMG's original tentative hypothesis made in August 2021
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140421.html . It seems to me that it's largely accurate, although at the moment, rather than ADE following the jabs, what I've been seeing the most among the people I know are cardiac and neurological injuries, strokes, and turbo cancers.

I feel ever more wary of doctors, hospitals, and pharmacueticals, and ever more appreciative of this forum.

I've not yet had a chance to listen to this interview with Joachim Gerlach, but it looks promising:
The Man Who Took On the Spike Protein
A Global Deep Dive Into the Hidden Damage and Hope of Detoxifying Long COVID and Post-Vaccine Illness
Dr Philip McMillan, Aug 03, 2025
https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/the-man-who-took-on-the-spike-protein


Cetiosaurus

[the_arcane_archivist]

https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/the-man-who-took-on-the-spike-protein

I see:

His solution? A unique combination of bioavailable natural polyphenols and a stepwise detox approach that targets not just the spike—but the body’s ability to heal after years of exposure.

Can we have a summary I tried to watch the video but there's a lot of talk around and it look like has a lot of papers?

If it's about polyphenols, I also noticed that blackberries and wild cherries and plumps did me a lot of good for my stomach/gut pain.

[the_arcane_archivist]

I made a new meme, there might be people that strongly dislike it, but I think it has some truth to it:

[scotlyn]

...AFTER you fight your own fires, and heal your own diseases, of course... ;)

Another one bites the dust

[fredsmith11]

There's been more than a few of these types "dying suddenly". Is it karma in action, or tracks being covered up?