Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 174
Dec. 3rd, 2024 11:53 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2024-12-03 05:11 pm (UTC)MAJOR FINDINGS:
- The NIH funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab.
- The Constitution can't be suspended in times of crisis.
- COVID emerging from a lab leak is "not a conspiracy theory."
- EcoHealth and Dr. Peter Daszak should "never again" receive taxpayer funds.
- Public health officials have lost the trust of the people.
- Trump's Operation Warp Speed was a success.
- The COVID response was "rampant" with fraud, waste and abuse.
- "The prescription cannot be worse than the disease," lockdowns had horrific consequences.
https://nitter.poast.org/EricLDaugh/status/1863653926203019384#m
AFTER ACTION REVIEW OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC:
The Lessons Learned and a Path Forward
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04.2024-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT.pdf
(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-03 11:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-04 01:01 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-04 02:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-04 02:45 pm (UTC)You appear to state this as a fact. Is it a well-evidenced, well documented fact?
(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-04 06:08 pm (UTC)*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
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Date: 2024-12-05 10:09 am (UTC)It follows that the jabs, instead of putting billions to sleep in a matter of weeks (as they obviously don't do), create a situation where the virus stays with us humans way more that it should have, and more easily reinfects (repeatedly). The damage is spread out over time if you will, AND I'm not even mentioning the short, medium and long term side-effects. AND the virus mutates
It's a lot to take in, a catastrophe, like we did everything wrong. There are and will be consequences for a while.
(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-04 02:46 pm (UTC)-- well, sounds nice, but that is an assertion based on a hypothesis, not on actual on-the-ground facts from jabs rolls out to-date.
Saying "the vaccines prevented Covid deaths" while wearing a white coat on TV doesn't make it true; saying it for the millionth time doesn't make it true; saying it because a whole lot of other people say it and it was in the NYT times 498 times doesn't make it true; and saying it when it makes a whole lot of people who took the jabs and still came down with covid and so really, really, really want to believe it doesn't make it true.
For more about the facts, as opposed to the model, I might suggest having a look at this:
"House COVID report claims the COVID vaccines saved millions of lives by citing statistical models as the proof"
Why they ignored direct measures of case rates and case fatality rates is a mystery to me.
Steve Kirsch Dec 2, 2024
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/house-covid-report-claims-the-covid
(no subject)
Date: 2024-12-04 03:27 pm (UTC)No, wait; scratch that. Won't get enough development funding if the technology has already been in use for centuries....
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Date: 2024-12-04 04:29 am (UTC)“The findings of the U.S. Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic released December 2nd, 2024, determined that Canadian government forces deployed automatic weapons on peaceful protesters in downtown Ottawa from February 14th to February 20th, 2022, demanding immediate legal accountability.
The actions of law enforcement in Ottawa during this period could be formally charged under the Criminal Code of Canada as follows:
Section 88(1): Possession of Weapons for a Dangerous Purpose to the Public Peace
Section 430(1)(c): Mischief Over $5,000
Section 82(1): Possession of Explosives
The deployment of automatic weapons against unarmed citizens and the involvement of unknown officers during these events have shaken the public’s trust. Investigating thoroughly and ensuring justice is served, regardless of who holds power, is essential.”
Ron M