Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 167

[ecosophia]

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

Comments

Re: Could be that many people are vaccine injured and don't know it?

[(Anonymous)]

"RFK jnr has been cleverly co-opted and compromised, as far as I can see, with MAHA and will accomplish absolutely nothing."

I would take the other side of that bet, in a heart beat. First of all, I think he -- including the team which supported his run for President (which includes Del Bigtree, Bret Weinstein, Calley and Casey Means, Tucker Carlson, millions of others, and me;) -- has already made a huge impact on American's awareness of how sick our food and medical industries have become. Certainly, he has made me more aware. I often got vaccines before the Covid vaccines, but I didn't get the Covid vaccines, and I haven't gotten, and likely won't get, any vaccines going forward.

Have you seen how the crowd responds to him when he speaks at Trump rallies? Do you not think he counts as an influencer?

So, you lose your cynical bet right of the gate, in a manner of speaking. The power of networking is huge, and RFK is networking with a lot of people.

But are you also saying that if Trump gets into office that Trump won't keep his promise to RFK and put him into some significant cabinet position where he can rein in corruption in the health agencies?

That would be both against Trump's own best interest and Trump's fairly public word on the his intention. And, since getting shot, endlessly law-fared, and this being Trump's last run at the Presidency, I would be astonished if Trump didn't take his promises a lot more seriously this second time around. And, to be fair, Trump did an amazing job of keeping his 2016 election promises, at least vastly better than most winners of the Presidency in my lifetime.

So I think you are not thinking this through very well. RFK put his life on the line to run the campaign he ran. He did that consciously.

Both Trump and RFK now are a lot more clear of who did what to them and the nature of their enemies domestic. I see no grounds, whatsoever, for you to conclude they won't bring their full life energy to the road ahead. And either of them has probably 10,000 times the lifeforce and inside knowledge of an "average" successful American their age.

That's my opinion. Of course, I'm not claiming the forces they are up against won't make more attempts on their lives. But I don't think you are being very thoughtful in your cynicism. I'd like you to lay out your argument in more than just a naked, top-level claim. I don't know where the US is going from here. But the people who have awakened are not going back to sleep, regardless.