ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 167

We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; ~~public health authorities~~ government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.

5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.

With that said, the floor is open for discussion.

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An important post on "Inside Pharma" from pharmaceutical logistics expert Hedley Rees (he states that this is free to share):

SARS-CoV-2 INJECTIONS ARE PHYSICAL, NOT VIRTUAL
It's been a massive scam all along...
By Hedley Rees, October 15, 2024

AM I STATING THE OBVIOUS?

Most of the world believed it was possible to develop & make a safe, effective, quality-compliant injection in less than 12 months.

If that were ‘obvious’, I wouldn’t need to be reminding people. Hopefully, you are not one of them!

For all the talk about synthetic, computer-generated genetic code and virtual inspections of manufacturing facilities—that is a pipe dream.

In the non-virtual world of physical supply chains, that does not happen.

Why is that, I hear you think?

PHYSICAL PATIENTS NEED PHYSICAL PRODUCTS

Injections are the product of long, complicated, supply chains. What comes out of those supply chains goes directly into your body—your physical body, not a virtual one. Any slip-up along the way could have tragic consequences.

This is why the initial development of any medicinal product, including injections for a gene therapy product, begins prior to administration in humans.

It requires pre-clinical studies that involve small quantities and a small supply chain.

If the product is proven to be safe after testing to regulatory approved standards, then it progresses to clinical trials. Here, larger quantities and a larger supply chain is needed.

Finally, if authorized, production will be scaled up again, at least once and possibly more, to meet patient demand.

At each scale-up stage, it is vital to assess the product in great detail, as each time production is scaled up the product structure can change and may become toxic.

The public has repeatedly been told that the trials for the Sars-Cov-2 injections took place in parallel (all at the same time), instead of in series, in order to speed up the process.

By developing the injections in this way, without following the accepted protocols, and proceeding through the steps in order, the vital checks on scaling-up the product will have been missed.

It is possible that the finished product will be toxic to the recipient (termed a polymorph). This raises serious safety concerns.

MANY FACTORS ARE INVOLVED

Adding to the non-virtual supply chain complications are many other factors. These include, but not limited to, production in different facilities that could alter clinical performance, component parts from different sources, especially China, batch-to-batch variation, distribution logistics issues shipping vast volumes of product around the globe…feel free to write your own list.

Any undetected error or omission could cause considerable patient harm or even death.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

It is imperative that the SARS-CoV-2 injections are stopped immediately, based on what you have read above.

The overriding issue is that the companies selling the injections do not physically develop or manufacture them. It is contract development and manufacturing organisations (CDMOs).

The CDMOs do not sell them, and are not liable for anything going wrong—the contracts will ensure that.

https://hedleyrees.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-injections-are-physical-5e9

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scotlyn

"It is possible that the finished product will be toxic to the recipient (termed a polymorph)."

Is he calling the product, or the recipient, a "polymorph", I wonder...

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Walgreens planning to close 1,200 stores over next 3 years

The company has been struggling as a result of online competition and decreasing prescription drug payments.

https://justthenews.com/nation/economy/walgreens-planning-close-1200-stores-over-next-3-years

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Saw a few CVS stores close down over the past six months in NW Indiana. This after watching Walgreens close down a number of their stores about ten years ago (after growing like crazy and rebuilding existing stores into standalone locations for ten-fifteen years before then).

Makes me wonder how long before Walgreens goes bankrupt. This would be the second major wave of closures they've gone through, and once a company gets into the store closing habit it usually goes to its logical conclusion (everything closes).

– Donald C. Hargraves

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“Pfizer CEO Bourla to meet with activist investor Starboard Value on turnaround pitch: FT”

https://dailyclout.io/pfizer-ceo-bourla-to-meet-with-activist-investor-starboard-value-on-turnaround-pitch-ft/

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I suspect this won't be the only bailout attempt for that accursed company. By the end of it, they will have lit a lot of money on fire keeping that company alive.

The delicious thing about it, is they know they're lighting that money on fire, but they don't really have a choice in it either. They are now compelled to do it based on their bad decisions made earlier.

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Ninth Circuit Overturns Federal Judge’s Ruling, Upholds Montana Law Protecting Workers and Patients from Discrimination Based on their Vaccination Status

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/ninth-circuit-overturns-federal-judges-ruling-upholds-montana/

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Jordan Peterson: Alas, no re-educator to be found

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-alas-no-re-educator-to-be-found

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This story reminds me of the 2022 Freedom Convoy in which the City of Ottawa was unsuccessful in contracting towing companies across eastern Ontario to tow convoy trucks (it takes a truck to tow a truck).

Thanks for sharing - this story was like a ray of sunshine! :)

Ron M

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Wow, over 100 NIH funded Alzheimers papers are completely fake

The researcher basically copy and pasted and made up scatter plots

He was considered a top 10 researcher before this and his papers were the backbone for our current understanding of Alzheimers

This is our science

https://nitter.poast.org/AlpacaAurelius/status/1845384030411469054#m

here is the link to the article in that post. it is from september:

Picture imperfect
Scores of papers by Eliezer Masliah, prominent neuroscientist and top NIH official, fall under suspicion

https://www.science.org/content/article/research-misconduct-finding-neuroscientist-eliezer-masliah-papers-under-suspicion

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The following links contains the archives (.epub and .html, and for Vol. 2,3 and Vol. 4 there is .txt too)

Volume 1 (everything before 1st March 2022)
Volume 1 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/8dBxzC4B#AkuddhK1eMAHK8xtCquBd7Es_19uU0UVAuO26PJ61ow

Volume 1 - .epub archive
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Volume 2 (everything in between 8th of February 2022 and 27th September 2022)

Volume 2 - .html archive
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Volume 2 - .txt archive
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Volume 2 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/xFomBI4K#qXMkKUAW2TErbruBb9i7pp30QNmQ8I-0isT7Yj1gfbo

Volume 3 (everything in between 27th September 2022 and 8th August 2023)
Volume 3 - .html archive
https://mega.nz/file/pFZnUDzB#gO8-oXR7mcf5gAqH0cFCd-qiZ9Y9DNlDFkLlu4PzO0E

Volume 3 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/FA4kkCDZ#T0dTqIy-2nCo5ymTrXj8AtJDPT0lJMmpa2nb09FFPPo

Volume 3 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/FAxHEAQL#ulbzW9dbCfFEeI3o3e36lG-gJ_KwAmtXIxdcYQI7Bqg

Volume 4 (everything in between 8th August 2023 and 28th May 2024)
Volume 4 - .html archive
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Volume 4 - .txt archive
https://mega.nz/file/BBIx0KTY#QE_kOoNHLKrig9GQPY2FsAmjmSfj8BWwd1sbTys8gbU

Volume 4 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/oAQ0CACa#wir62vMkKLWTr6tTbmHZ0hTaQSeq1qUJSlf-1sDLZ20

Volume 5 (everything after 28th May 2024)
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Volume 5 - .epub archive
https://mega.nz/file/QUJADTaI#3_w8vgEB7DAuSSUkBz2O8rtpvCZUt4XSBRez0NEtLxc

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It's called conflict of interest?

VA Mtn Man

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It is called the SPAM™ish Inquisition.

And *everybody* expects it.

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temporaryreality

Hi all,

yesterday my daughter went for a thermography scan (her preference over biopsy or mammogram at this time). Good news - the initial observation does not show that the lump in her breast is cancer. In two weeks we'll get the more comprehensive reading of the test, but we've dropped down a notch from the "high alert" we were in.

She had decided to try ivermectin and will continue with the course she's on for the next week and a half.

Thank you everyone for your well-wishes and prayers. They cheered her (and me) immensely.

Now, we'll be exploring the varieties of ways to conceive of/contemplate/work with an unidentified "lump."

In the meantime, there were a few remaining ivymivy links I wanted to share from when I did my deep dive into it:

Despite 2ndsmartestguy's headline, the recently released, peer-reviewed study of IVM, fenben/mebendazole, etc., for cancer is NOT a paper about a TRIAL of the abovementioned. It's only a peer reviewed protocol (there is a difference!). Nonetheless, the paper does cite its sources, and those sources seem promising. Here's a downloadable copy of the paper: https://isom.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Targeting-the-Mitochondrial-Stem-Cell-Connection-in-Cancer-Treatment-JOM-39.3.pdf

Pubchem info on ivermectin - lots of useful info including brand names/synonyms, toxicity, etc.: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Ivermectin

Inchem info: https://inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v27je03.htm

Info on toxicity in livestock (useful, since there have been few studies on that for ivm at higher than the standard dose for humans (though, see here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12362927/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35535587/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37038566/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36374218/ , https://www.researchprotocols.org/2016/4/e213/. Pharmacokinetics and interactions here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1208/s12248-007-9000-9). This reveals that even at high doses, no toxic effects have been reported in animals (see, esp. swine and horses - as monogastrics, they share some physiological characteristics with humans): https://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2344&Itemid=2996

and here's similar info on the horse-paste version: https://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3392&Itemid=3538 and https://www.domyown.com/msds/DURVETIVERMECTINMSDS.pdf (I note that the zimecertin brand claims to be the original formuation (see https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=2e87bed9-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5) -- stubborn_ass reports that at some point companies changed their paste formulation, perhaps switching the carrier of the medication

info on the injectable form: https://www.domyown.com/msds/DURVETIVERMECTIN1MSDS.pdf

Re: fertility, some studies have been put out on humans, incl https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(19)30490-5/fulltext , as well as some study of 57 men in Ghana that suggested it reduced fertility, though I also saw criticism of that study (all the men had serious parasite loads that could've caused the effect). The screaming headlines on fertility reduction seem to relate back to a clickbaity writer who based everything on some rabbit studies and the above-mentioned Ghanian men. Other info seems to suggest that ivm use is a temporary cause of reduced fertility, but those effects cease on discontinuation.

An article on ivm toxicity in rats moderated by aged garlic extract: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0034528818304466

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Yay!! so glad to hear it.

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Mask mandates have returned, at least in some places...

Just yesterday (10-14-2024), I went to a used bookstore in Iowa City, Iowa, and I was checked at the entrance by a masked employee who presented me with a face-diaper wrapped in plastic. I responded with the usual, "No thanks, I'm good," but that wasn't good enough for her. She insisted that they require everyone to wear a mask, and when I told her, "The pandemic is over. It's 2024," another male employee rushed to her aid and accosted me.

I tried to reason with him, explaining the studies which show the inability of face-diapers to block respiratory viruses, but he insisted that their masks were special (insert alphabet soup name) masks, and they actually do work. (Clearly that was bunk, because they were typical masks, folded flat and wrapped in plastic.)

I felt like I had been transported back in time to 2021, and I told the employees, "I feel like I'm in a dream." But they did not empathize and seemed to rather relish the dystopian surrealism. The male employee then repeated that they have a mask requirement and added that they're "proud of it." And around this time a face-diapered employee joined in to gang up on me by adding the old familiar line, "It's a private business, they can do what they want." Love it or leave it, in other words, and so I left, knowing full well the futility of trying to reason further with these demented cult members.

I only wish I had been able to further express myself and make better points. For example, I failed to point out the total redundancy of requiring other people to wear masks when they themselves are face-diapered. I also failed to point out the total irony of a used bookstore being overly concerned with germs. Their wares are doubtlessly brimming with germs from mildew, residual urine, and gods know what else. The romance section alone would probably terrify them if illuminated under a blacklight.

Oh well. As the saying goes, hindsight is 2020. Or, in this case, 2024.

I visited their website (https://www.thehauntedbookshop.com/) after the incident, and they have a whole front page section dedicated to their beloved mask requirement. And then I learned that mask mandates have returned to healthcare facilities in certain counties in California.

We'll see if the madness spreads beyond these blue citadels, but no matter what, I would be prepared to once again confront these petty tyrants. This is definitely déjà vu.

--Sam

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EDIT: A face-diapered customer (not employee) joined in to gang up on me by adding the old familiar line, "It's a private business, they can do what they want."