Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 167
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ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-15 05:34 pm (UTC)yesterday my daughter went for a thermography scan (her preference over biopsy or mammogram at this time). Good news - the initial observation does not show that the lump in her breast is cancer. In two weeks we'll get the more comprehensive reading of the test, but we've dropped down a notch from the "high alert" we were in.
She had decided to try ivermectin and will continue with the course she's on for the next week and a half.
Thank you everyone for your well-wishes and prayers. They cheered her (and me) immensely.
Now, we'll be exploring the varieties of ways to conceive of/contemplate/work with an unidentified "lump."
In the meantime, there were a few remaining ivymivy links I wanted to share from when I did my deep dive into it:
Despite 2ndsmartestguy's headline, the recently released, peer-reviewed study of IVM, fenben/mebendazole, etc., for cancer is NOT a paper about a TRIAL of the abovementioned. It's only a peer reviewed protocol (there is a difference!). Nonetheless, the paper does cite its sources, and those sources seem promising. Here's a downloadable copy of the paper: https://isom.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Targeting-the-Mitochondrial-Stem-Cell-Connection-in-Cancer-Treatment-JOM-39.3.pdf
Pubchem info on ivermectin - lots of useful info including brand names/synonyms, toxicity, etc.: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Ivermectin
Inchem info: https://inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v27je03.htm
Info on toxicity in livestock (useful, since there have been few studies on that for ivm at higher than the standard dose for humans (though, see here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12362927/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35535587/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37038566/ , https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36374218/ , https://www.researchprotocols.org/2016/4/e213/. Pharmacokinetics and interactions here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1208/s12248-007-9000-9). This reveals that even at high doses, no toxic effects have been reported in animals (see, esp. swine and horses - as monogastrics, they share some physiological characteristics with humans): https://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2344&Itemid=2996
and here's similar info on the horse-paste version: https://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3392&Itemid=3538 and https://www.domyown.com/msds/DURVETIVERMECTINMSDS.pdf (I note that the zimecertin brand claims to be the original formuation (see https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=2e87bed9-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5) -- stubborn_ass reports that at some point companies changed their paste formulation, perhaps switching the carrier of the medication
info on the injectable form: https://www.domyown.com/msds/DURVETIVERMECTIN1MSDS.pdf
Re: fertility, some studies have been put out on humans, incl https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(19)30490-5/fulltext , as well as some study of 57 men in Ghana that suggested it reduced fertility, though I also saw criticism of that study (all the men had serious parasite loads that could've caused the effect). The screaming headlines on fertility reduction seem to relate back to a clickbaity writer who based everything on some rabbit studies and the above-mentioned Ghanian men. Other info seems to suggest that ivm use is a temporary cause of reduced fertility, but those effects cease on discontinuation.
An article on ivm toxicity in rats moderated by aged garlic extract: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0034528818304466
Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-15 06:26 pm (UTC)Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-15 06:37 pm (UTC)Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-15 06:54 pm (UTC)Atmospheric RIver
Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-15 11:21 pm (UTC)https://www.locustlightfarm.com/blog/2016/6/28/breast-health-and-lymphatic-cleansing
Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-16 04:19 am (UTC)AMD also mentioned lymphatic flow in a recent article about breast cancer/health and discussed that bras can put enough pressure to compress lymphatic vessels, and wearing them less frequently and definitely not at night can help.
Tamar
Re: things hit home - an update
Date: 2024-10-16 10:24 pm (UTC)and thanks anon-up-above for the poke root tip. Will look in to it.